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		<title>By: Ill Mortgage Refinance Washington</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/targetpoint-bittorrent-who-owns-what/#comment-102124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ill Mortgage Refinance Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 03:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Searching.com Flirts with BitTorrent Sites at Torrentfreak</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/targetpoint-bittorrent-who-owns-what/#comment-14330</link>
		<dc:creator>Searching.com Flirts with BitTorrent Sites at Torrentfreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The bottom line is, BitTorrent sites are attractive partners for companies that are in need of traffic. A while ago we reported that the ad-company &#8220;targepoint&#8221; was attempting to take over several BitTorrent sites. Although Targetpoint officially denied these claims, they&#8217;re not the only one flirting with these traffic monsters.     Written by: Ernesto on October 7, 2006 &#124; Tags: alexa, bittorrent, searching, torrents.Filed under: All, Hot Off The Press, Torrent Sites, P2P and Filesharing, Pirate Talk              Feed for this Article [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The bottom line is, BitTorrent sites are attractive partners for companies that are in need of traffic. A while ago we reported that the ad-company &#8220;targepoint&#8221; was attempting to take over several BitTorrent sites. Although Targetpoint officially denied these claims, they&#8217;re not the only one flirting with these traffic monsters.     Written by: Ernesto on October 7, 2006 | Tags: alexa, bittorrent, searching, torrents.Filed under: All, Hot Off The Press, Torrent Sites, P2P and Filesharing, Pirate Talk              Feed for this Article [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mathias</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/targetpoint-bittorrent-who-owns-what/#comment-8835</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pirate Bay doesn&#039;t have any stock or shares, there&#039;s thus nothing to own there. Should contact TPB directly before making claims of ownership over such an important website, IMO. ;)

Correction needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pirate Bay doesn&#8217;t have any stock or shares, there&#8217;s thus nothing to own there. Should contact TPB directly before making claims of ownership over such an important website, IMO. ;)</p>
<p>Correction needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Or Kuntzman</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/targetpoint-bittorrent-who-owns-what/#comment-7727</link>
		<dc:creator>Or Kuntzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Targetpoint = Idium = Securo = Kuntzman.

Mr. Or Kuntzman, the ceo, is sneaking his perfidious tentacles into torrent sites.

QUESTION!

What happened to Securo, the free spyware program his previous company Idium paid a bunch of affiliates to push?

And how did a free program like Securo pay for the cost of all that promotion?  See: 
http://clusty.com/search?v%3afile=viv_474%4030%3aLmZpTQ&amp;v%3aframe=list&amp;v%3astate=root%7cN565&amp;id=N565&amp;action=list&amp;  

It&#039;s damn hard to get a copy of Securo now, I wonder why.  There is one copy left, if a leet haxrr wants to decompile it.



http://www.matimop.org.il/newrdinf/company/c4522.htm

Organization: 	 IDIUM SYSTEMS LTD.
Contact: 	Name: Mr. Or Kuntzman
Position: CEO 

 Address: 	16 Galgalei Haplada St.
P.O.Box: 2267
Herzliya
ISRAEL, 46722
Telephone: 09-9577741

[compare to targetpoint, Tel.+972.9.9577741, same phone number.]

Fax: 09-9575840
Email: tamirc@idium.co.il
WEB site: www.idium.co.il

GENERAL INFORMATION
Established:  2000
Ownership:  Private

Core business

Software company in the field of E-commerce security

Employees:  10

Overview

IDIUM SYSTEMS LTD. is a leading developer and provider of online
shopping and productivity solutions. IDIUM is a privately owned
company specializing in the development of Internet technologies,
security products and productivity solutions, founded to fulfill
a vision of safe and secure Internet shopping for every online
surfer.

IDIUM SYSTEMS LTD. has developed the patented HTCheck technology,
an efficient engine designed to quickly scan and check html pages
in real time. This unique software platform enables a new class
of intelligent solutions for Internet based technologies and
applications.

IDIUM&#039;s flagship product - Securo. The Securo software was
designed with one primary intention in mind - To take the worries
out of online shopping by allowing customers to make an informed
decision on every purchase. With Securo installed a customer will
immediately receive valuable information on shopping sites when
he visits them. If a customer decides to make a purchase, he will
always receive Securo&#039;s recommendation before he enters his
credit card number and his purchase will be documented
automatically. There are many great features to Securo and many
more are in development and will be available via the software&#039;s
Auto-Update, thus keeping Securo the leading online shopping
protection software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Targetpoint = Idium = Securo = Kuntzman.</p>
<p>Mr. Or Kuntzman, the ceo, is sneaking his perfidious tentacles into torrent sites.</p>
<p>QUESTION!</p>
<p>What happened to Securo, the free spyware program his previous company Idium paid a bunch of affiliates to push?</p>
<p>And how did a free program like Securo pay for the cost of all that promotion?  See:<br />
<a href="http://clusty.com/search?v%3afile=viv_474%4030%3aLmZpTQ&#038;v%3aframe=list&#038;v%3astate=root%7cN565&#038;id=N565&#038;action=list&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://clusty.com/search?v%3afile=viv_474%4030%3aLmZpTQ&#038;v%3aframe=list&#038;v%3astate=root%7cN565&#038;id=N565&#038;action=list&#038;amp</a>;  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s damn hard to get a copy of Securo now, I wonder why.  There is one copy left, if a leet haxrr wants to decompile it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.matimop.org.il/newrdinf/company/c4522.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.matimop.org.il/newrdinf/company/c4522.htm</a></p>
<p>Organization: 	 IDIUM SYSTEMS LTD.<br />
Contact: 	Name: Mr. Or Kuntzman<br />
Position: CEO </p>
<p> Address: 	16 Galgalei Haplada St.<br />
P.O.Box: 2267<br />
Herzliya<br />
ISRAEL, 46722<br />
Telephone: 09-9577741</p>
<p>[compare to targetpoint, Tel.+972.9.9577741, same phone number.]</p>
<p>Fax: 09-9575840<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:tamirc@idium.co.il">tamirc@idium.co.il</a><br />
WEB site: <a href="http://www.idium.co.il" rel="nofollow">http://www.idium.co.il</a></p>
<p>GENERAL INFORMATION<br />
Established:  2000<br />
Ownership:  Private</p>
<p>Core business</p>
<p>Software company in the field of E-commerce security</p>
<p>Employees:  10</p>
<p>Overview</p>
<p>IDIUM SYSTEMS LTD. is a leading developer and provider of online<br />
shopping and productivity solutions. IDIUM is a privately owned<br />
company specializing in the development of Internet technologies,<br />
security products and productivity solutions, founded to fulfill<br />
a vision of safe and secure Internet shopping for every online<br />
surfer.</p>
<p>IDIUM SYSTEMS LTD. has developed the patented HTCheck technology,<br />
an efficient engine designed to quickly scan and check html pages<br />
in real time. This unique software platform enables a new class<br />
of intelligent solutions for Internet based technologies and<br />
applications.</p>
<p>IDIUM&#8217;s flagship product &#8211; Securo. The Securo software was<br />
designed with one primary intention in mind &#8211; To take the worries<br />
out of online shopping by allowing customers to make an informed<br />
decision on every purchase. With Securo installed a customer will<br />
immediately receive valuable information on shopping sites when<br />
he visits them. If a customer decides to make a purchase, he will<br />
always receive Securo&#8217;s recommendation before he enters his<br />
credit card number and his purchase will be documented<br />
automatically. There are many great features to Securo and many<br />
more are in development and will be available via the software&#8217;s<br />
Auto-Update, thus keeping Securo the leading online shopping<br />
protection software.</p>
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		<title>By: Empornium: Targetpoint Sold Us Out! &#183; TorrentFreak, torrents and more</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/targetpoint-bittorrent-who-owns-what/#comment-7533</link>
		<dc:creator>Empornium: Targetpoint Sold Us Out! &#183; TorrentFreak, torrents and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In our previous posts about Targetpoints involvement Empornium.us we never got to hear the story from Emporniums former admins. The Israeli advertising company denied that it owns or bought Empornium. This motivated one of Emporniums former admins to contact Torrentfreak to tell their side of the story. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In our previous posts about Targetpoints involvement Empornium.us we never got to hear the story from Emporniums former admins. The Israeli advertising company denied that it owns or bought Empornium. This motivated one of Emporniums former admins to contact Torrentfreak to tell their side of the story. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/targetpoint-bittorrent-who-owns-what/#comment-7530</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linked below is a first hand account of the events surrounding the Empornium/Targetpoint controversy. It was just written by a former admin/moderator of Emp. Very interesting read:

http://smutpeddlers.org/viewtopic.php?t=97</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linked below is a first hand account of the events surrounding the Empornium/Targetpoint controversy. It was just written by a former admin/moderator of Emp. Very interesting read:</p>
<p><a href="http://smutpeddlers.org/viewtopic.php?t=97" rel="nofollow">http://smutpeddlers.org/viewtopic.php?t=97</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fence Sitter</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/targetpoint-bittorrent-who-owns-what/#comment-7362</link>
		<dc:creator>Fence Sitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of what business connections exist or don&#039;t exist in this case, it doesn&#039;t take a rocket scientist to figure out that heavily accessed sites are prime targets for monetization and advertising firms will no doubt approach such sites they see ranking high on Alexa.

Money at some point also ends up talking for many site owners since heavily used sites cost money to run.  If a proposition is too good to pass up, it would not be a surprise either that many would put their own personal ethics as well as whatever principles they stood for aside.  Many site owners are also excellent at the art of spinning words (like Apple&#039;s Steve Jobs) to their own personal advantage and would have no problems selling out so long as they can hide that truth from the general userbase (else you end up with the kind of vitriol that some Empornium members are taking part in as well as the general boycotting of sites possibly associated with TP; even if they don&#039;t have all the facts straight).  With regards to BT sites though, there is a fine line because of the nature of such sites.  It wouldn&#039;t be surprising to find complex sheltering going on in order to hide the money trail.  Most site owners would likely be laying low and not drawing attention to themselves with that money until they decide to &quot;cash out and disappear&quot;.

History has shown that there will always be people and businesses who will flow to where the money is at and this one seems to be no exception.  Anyone who thinks likewise is naive to the realities when big money is involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of what business connections exist or don&#8217;t exist in this case, it doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to figure out that heavily accessed sites are prime targets for monetization and advertising firms will no doubt approach such sites they see ranking high on Alexa.</p>
<p>Money at some point also ends up talking for many site owners since heavily used sites cost money to run.  If a proposition is too good to pass up, it would not be a surprise either that many would put their own personal ethics as well as whatever principles they stood for aside.  Many site owners are also excellent at the art of spinning words (like Apple&#8217;s Steve Jobs) to their own personal advantage and would have no problems selling out so long as they can hide that truth from the general userbase (else you end up with the kind of vitriol that some Empornium members are taking part in as well as the general boycotting of sites possibly associated with TP; even if they don&#8217;t have all the facts straight).  With regards to BT sites though, there is a fine line because of the nature of such sites.  It wouldn&#8217;t be surprising to find complex sheltering going on in order to hide the money trail.  Most site owners would likely be laying low and not drawing attention to themselves with that money until they decide to &#8220;cash out and disappear&#8221;.</p>
<p>History has shown that there will always be people and businesses who will flow to where the money is at and this one seems to be no exception.  Anyone who thinks likewise is naive to the realities when big money is involved.</p>
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