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		<title>By: Cheap-Textbooks Team</title>
		<link>/textbook-torrents-turns-the-final-page-and-closes-down-081010/#comment-528793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheap-Textbooks Team]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is that textbooks are so expensive that students had to turn to file sharing sites. Look at the drop in song file sharing when apple made them affordable. Affordable textbooks is the answer ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is that textbooks are so expensive that students had to turn to file sharing sites. Look at the drop in song file sharing when apple made them affordable. Affordable textbooks is the answer </p>
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		<title>By: Bigkahkistan</title>
		<link>/textbook-torrents-turns-the-final-page-and-closes-down-081010/#comment-526803</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bigkahkistan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you think such laws come into being? There&#039;s a significant amount of corporate lobbying going on to make sure that these copyright laws are enforced hard and fast. Ultimately , the problem is that the rich have the ability to bend government services towards their will. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you think such laws come into being? There&#039;s a significant amount of corporate lobbying going on to make sure that these copyright laws are enforced hard and fast. Ultimately , the problem is that the rich have the ability to bend government services towards their will. </p>
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		<title>By: Sir Cob</title>
		<link>/textbook-torrents-turns-the-final-page-and-closes-down-081010/#comment-525668</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sir Cob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never got to use it - but you do know that this means that this means that publishers will come out with new editions and more expensive prices to make up for there &quot;calculated&quot; losses. 
 
Sucks for us... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never got to use it &#8211; but you do know that this means that this means that publishers will come out with new editions and more expensive prices to make up for there &quot;calculated&quot; losses. </p>
<p>Sucks for us&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: NSEWA</title>
		<link>/textbook-torrents-turns-the-final-page-and-closes-down-081010/#comment-524362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NSEWA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a few of my texts from last semester and I come back today that the site is dead? well textbook companies need to  make money but I wished some kind of agreement could be reach so I don&#039;t have to waste 500 bucks in books that change every edition. Thanks for the help while it lasted ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a few of my texts from last semester and I come back today that the site is dead? well textbook companies need to  make money but I wished some kind of agreement could be reach so I don&#039;t have to waste 500 bucks in books that change every edition. Thanks for the help while it lasted </p>
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		<title>By: Knightmixer</title>
		<link>/textbook-torrents-turns-the-final-page-and-closes-down-081010/#comment-521972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knightmixer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is by no mean representative of capitalism.  Patent and copyright laws are governmental creations.  The true target of your ire should be directed towards all forms of statism (socialism, communism, fascism, marxism, et al...) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is by no mean representative of capitalism.  Patent and copyright laws are governmental creations.  The true target of your ire should be directed towards all forms of statism (socialism, communism, fascism, marxism, et al&#8230;) </p>
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		<title>By: As An Industry Slowly Dies.....</title>
		<link>/textbook-torrents-turns-the-final-page-and-closes-down-081010/#comment-507261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[As An Industry Slowly Dies.....]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@sdc

I will take your statement at face value and assume for the sake of argument that your company is one of the more responsible university presses that does actually put much effort into keeping their product updated and careful attention to a high standard of quality. However, the majority of commercial textbook publishers do the bare minimum and force newly &quot;updated/revised&quot; editions on students solely for the sake of the bottom line. When the successful completion of a course is dependent on the mandatory purchase of the latest edition textbook despite said latest edition being virtually indistinguishable from the previous volume, then perhaps you can begin to understand why the people in the educational chain least able to afford it (the students) consider a $200+ price tag nothing short of a publisher rape of already stretched and inadequate resources. Multiply this scenario by many courses and the problem is crystal clear to all who have had to endure this shameless profiteering. Harassment of your customer base through petty legal threats does not put the money in their pocket to pay the inflated prices charged by many. If four people each put in $50 to buy one copy of a $200 textbook and then share it why is it so outrageous for some to use a digital copy if they can&#039;t afford a physical one? 

You may feel that your industry &quot;prices to have their books bought and not to make a huge profit&quot;, but I assure you that that is not the view of those who are your customers. Your industry exists in a rather unique niche of the publishing world in that rather than having to compete and provide quality AND value (read=reasonable price) like mainstream publishers, you cater to a captive audience whose academic success or failure is directly tied to the required purchase of your product. It is quite apparent to most people that textbook publishers long ago realized this and ever since have exploited that fact by pricing at a standard totally in opposition to mainstream publishing.

I&#039;m sure you would like to point out that a university press does not sell titles in the numbers that mainstream books do, and you&#039;re absolutely correct. But $150, $200, $300 for a single hardback textbook? Your numbers sold may be lower than mainstream books but your costs of publishing/printing are in no way proportional to your sales prices. If you say they are, I will be happy to direct you to several vanity presses who will be happy to print high quality hardbacks in small numbers for a tiny fraction of what you charge. Your industry could easily cut retail prices in half and still be very profitable. But instead price gouging and outright banditry seems to be the order of the day.

So, if you are one of the minority of text publishers who do act responsibly by putting out a quality product at a FAIR and REASONABLE price, then I wish you well. I am not anti-business nor anti-profit. I am, however, irrevocably and steadfastly opposed to those who would take advantage of their industry&#039;s unique position to pillage those who are, in most cases, struggling financially as it is to complete their education. And for THAT segment of your industry, I have no pity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sdc</p>
<p>I will take your statement at face value and assume for the sake of argument that your company is one of the more responsible university presses that does actually put much effort into keeping their product updated and careful attention to a high standard of quality. However, the majority of commercial textbook publishers do the bare minimum and force newly &#8220;updated/revised&#8221; editions on students solely for the sake of the bottom line. When the successful completion of a course is dependent on the mandatory purchase of the latest edition textbook despite said latest edition being virtually indistinguishable from the previous volume, then perhaps you can begin to understand why the people in the educational chain least able to afford it (the students) consider a $200+ price tag nothing short of a publisher rape of already stretched and inadequate resources. Multiply this scenario by many courses and the problem is crystal clear to all who have had to endure this shameless profiteering. Harassment of your customer base through petty legal threats does not put the money in their pocket to pay the inflated prices charged by many. If four people each put in $50 to buy one copy of a $200 textbook and then share it why is it so outrageous for some to use a digital copy if they can&#8217;t afford a physical one? </p>
<p>You may feel that your industry &#8220;prices to have their books bought and not to make a huge profit&#8221;, but I assure you that that is not the view of those who are your customers. Your industry exists in a rather unique niche of the publishing world in that rather than having to compete and provide quality AND value (read=reasonable price) like mainstream publishers, you cater to a captive audience whose academic success or failure is directly tied to the required purchase of your product. It is quite apparent to most people that textbook publishers long ago realized this and ever since have exploited that fact by pricing at a standard totally in opposition to mainstream publishing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you would like to point out that a university press does not sell titles in the numbers that mainstream books do, and you&#8217;re absolutely correct. But $150, $200, $300 for a single hardback textbook? Your numbers sold may be lower than mainstream books but your costs of publishing/printing are in no way proportional to your sales prices. If you say they are, I will be happy to direct you to several vanity presses who will be happy to print high quality hardbacks in small numbers for a tiny fraction of what you charge. Your industry could easily cut retail prices in half and still be very profitable. But instead price gouging and outright banditry seems to be the order of the day.</p>
<p>So, if you are one of the minority of text publishers who do act responsibly by putting out a quality product at a FAIR and REASONABLE price, then I wish you well. I am not anti-business nor anti-profit. I am, however, irrevocably and steadfastly opposed to those who would take advantage of their industry&#8217;s unique position to pillage those who are, in most cases, struggling financially as it is to complete their education. And for THAT segment of your industry, I have no pity.</p>
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		<title>By: sdc</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As An Industry Slowly Dies....., I would urge you not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  As a university press publisher who spends a fair amount of time insuring that books are decently written and well-made, I feel that university presses do price to have their books bought and not to make a huge profit.  We&#039;re the kind of folks who need people to buy books because if they don&#039;t we&#039;ll disappear and take at least some of our skills with us.  And for people who only buy books for classes that may be okay, but for those of us who read other stuff, our absence might actually be felt (not to appear self-promoting or anything).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As An Industry Slowly Dies&#8230;.., I would urge you not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  As a university press publisher who spends a fair amount of time insuring that books are decently written and well-made, I feel that university presses do price to have their books bought and not to make a huge profit.  We&#8217;re the kind of folks who need people to buy books because if they don&#8217;t we&#8217;ll disappear and take at least some of our skills with us.  And for people who only buy books for classes that may be okay, but for those of us who read other stuff, our absence might actually be felt (not to appear self-promoting or anything).</p>
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		<title>By: Online Piracy&#8211;The Next Generation &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Online Piracy&#8211;The Next Generation &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a damn shame. Textbook-Torrents was one of the best trackers around in terms of getting extremely rare and interesting material quickly. I sent Geekman an email wishing him the best in whatever he goes on to do. I hope another good textbook tracker springs up soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a damn shame. Textbook-Torrents was one of the best trackers around in terms of getting extremely rare and interesting material quickly. I sent Geekman an email wishing him the best in whatever he goes on to do. I hope another good textbook tracker springs up soon.</p>
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		<title>By: As An Industry Slowly Dies.....</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[As An Industry Slowly Dies.....]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a member of TT, am I the only one wondering why Geekman left himself in a position of vulnerability in the first place? Common sense security practice nowadays for running a torrent site involves a couple of givens.

1. You don&#039;t register a domain or get a host using your real personal info. They can&#039;t sue if they can&#039;t find who you are.

2. Never, I repeat, NEVER use hosting or a server based within U.S. territory.

This site should have been hosted anonymously and located in an area where Geekman would have had the luxury of telling the publisher&#039;s to go f**k themselves.

But what&#039;s done is done. I&#039;d like to express my thanks to Geekman for all the effort and hard work he put into running the site. Both the site, and Geekman himself, were always a class act from beginning to end.

R.I.P. Textbook Torrents. :(


And a word to the publishers.......My scanner will be getting quite the workout over the next month as I create new scans of your latest overpriced offerings. You bozos need to learn that you while you might kill a site, you don&#039;t kill us. Strike one down and 100 will rise to replace it. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a member of TT, am I the only one wondering why Geekman left himself in a position of vulnerability in the first place? Common sense security practice nowadays for running a torrent site involves a couple of givens.</p>
<p>1. You don&#8217;t register a domain or get a host using your real personal info. They can&#8217;t sue if they can&#8217;t find who you are.</p>
<p>2. Never, I repeat, NEVER use hosting or a server based within U.S. territory.</p>
<p>This site should have been hosted anonymously and located in an area where Geekman would have had the luxury of telling the publisher&#8217;s to go f**k themselves.</p>
<p>But what&#8217;s done is done. I&#8217;d like to express my thanks to Geekman for all the effort and hard work he put into running the site. Both the site, and Geekman himself, were always a class act from beginning to end.</p>
<p>R.I.P. Textbook Torrents. :(</p>
<p>And a word to the publishers&#8230;&#8230;.My scanner will be getting quite the workout over the next month as I create new scans of your latest overpriced offerings. You bozos need to learn that you while you might kill a site, you don&#8217;t kill us. Strike one down and 100 will rise to replace it. :)</p>
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