I have to rofl when someone gets thrown into prison with rapist and murderers and this person is in there for downloading the latest movie….Damn this society is going to hell.

I suppose that counts for murder, rape and many more things also. Stupid comment!

However this article ws good thanks.

For those of you who don’t know who Mark Kermode is, he’s a film reviewer with an almost cult following which is truly international thanks to live streaming of the radio show and the free podcast, and he is often out of step with most film reviewers on some things.

Piracy may be funding terror and is definitely funding organized crime. I don’t know about the profit margins but it’s immensely less dangerous and lightly punished than trafficking narcotics. I buy all that.

Then, they have to put the home user sharing files in the same bin as the masters of the street arabs pushing contraband DVDs. That’s where they lose me and make me feel like digitizing everything I own and put it online in spite.

And a hint to the industry: camming 3D films is a non-issue.

Majority of the world population is like me who are poor and the first thing on their mind is what they gonna eat and not which movie they gonna watch. So I watch no movies, precisely I buy no movies. But just because I am poor have I no right to see what is made out of another human mind? I use my labor force to keep the world running too. Surely, if all the laborers weren’t there then there would be no movies.

Thanks to all these downloads that in recent days I am feeling very human. I have now seen more of the world. New culture, new place and new ideas. I wouldn’t wanna be deprived of that! But if from tomorrow I don’t get to see any of them then I don’t care. I don’t bother myself to go and buy a movie. Basic livelihood preoccupies me.

The music industry should completely stay out of the piracy thing. If an artist comes out and speaks against piracy then that means he is a low-confidenced amateur artist. Cause no matter if non of your albums were sold and billion copies of it were downloaded you can always make a good money through concerts. If you have a real talent then people, even if they have heard your song 1000 times in their mp3 player, will come to listen to your live song by buying a ticket. Now if people break into a concert without tickets then thats the real problem.

But reality on the other side could be harsh on these richest people of the world(the movie industry people). This has become their profession and the means to feed their family. But this leaves no room for them to demand millions of dollars for their work while the people who watch them hardly make a comfortable living. Where is the equality of labor? If tomorrow no body decides to watch their movie then they are certainly going to be in a big trouble. And then they will have to labor like most of us and they can’t watch movies as they can’t buy. This is so natural. If I who works 9 hrs a day sweating all the time and earns $1200 a month out of which pays $800 just for the house rent, nobody else has the right to earn millions, billions, trillions of $$$.

You know where is the flaw? It is in the constitutional books that limits our rights by trying to define them. Just remember what the French revolution brought down. So all the greedy eventhough rich people out there do realize that it takes just few lives and a cue to change what is illegal today to legal tomorrow.

http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees

@ Ben Jones – As the author of this article you may like to pass the word around about the above website.

As such it is frequently criticised as by the government for political bias and is extremely harsh when interviewing governmment politicians.

Man, I know mums at my kid’s school who don’t know what a torrent is, how it works or any IT stuff, they simply know that this uTorrent thing makes me look like SuperMum when I get the latest blockbuster for my little Johnny and his mates to watch on a Saturday afternoon! The “pirates” know it’s wrong, the mum at school, the gu in his 9-5 at the bank, doesn’t know it’s wrong as such, until you change the 90% of the people who don’t know what they’re doing it won’t change a thing!

So MPAA, stop wasting your money preaching to the converted, it’s too late!

Which in my eyes is why it should be offering a more balanced picture.

BTW, check my bio – I’ve been in the movie business AND TV business (including the BBC, and C4, and as more than just a ‘runner’). In fact, I had an invite to do some TV work in the US this past week. i couldn’t do it because of other commitments, but it’s not as nice and clear-cut as you’d like it to be.

No. They wouldn’t.

But no one here will second that because you’re not interested in the facts. You just want to be labeled a thief just because you steal things.

“but filesharing isn’t blah blah blah”.

Ram it.

We’re a loveable rum bunch too!!! Take the TPB founders for example, they are a good bunch of guys.

That shows is so hypocritical, and very biased. I loved the irony about the two different pirates, expressed in the TorrentFreak story!!

This also proves that he is no critic and conflict of interest exists between being a chat show host and reviewer of films.

eg bad reviews = no ‘stars’ on the chat show.

I have pirated movies but i don’t try to justify my actions.

A while ago, I was offered about 500 albums, burned onto CD for £50. I declined, because that is wrong. People should get something from their work, not be ripped off.

But if someone who is not in a situation to spend out on a DVD or album wants to hear it, they should be able to.

Filesharing has had NO IMPACT on sales. None. The figures bear that out. The ability for people to test out what they might want to pay for is am important one; it’s the customer making up their own mind. Okay, some people abuse the system, but it’s certainly not worse than taking taxpayers money for a plasma tv.

What I dislike is this whole thing about how you are funding terrorism by downloading or file sharing, rather than that you are damaging industries which badly need to update their business model but are too arrogant / lazy to do so.

The Movie industry seems to be turning out a lot of crap (Vampire Lesbian Killers etc) or remakes (Alfie, Lady Killers, Clouseau) when there is an absolute wealth of writing and performing talent with fresh, quality ideas. Don’t tell me filesharing and piracy have damaged the industry because what has done more damage is the lazy, self interest of CEOs coupled with the short sighted knee jerk reaction of the well lobbied leglislature cow towing to big business.

I’m pretty tired of well heeled has beens trying to protect their positions and build even greater wealth by manipulating sheeple into believing falsehoods and assumptions instead of looking at this issue and saying “Well, maybe *we* need to change the way we do things”

A small umber of people abuse the system, but mainly, it’s people who want certain specific items who file share or download. Usually people who are fans (and that’s another thing, what is this thing with closing down fan sites?) or people who want to learn to animate, design and work but can’t afford the £800 or so for the software.

Wait… How…

But d/l cannot be compared. No-one makes money from it and a majority of those that use it go and buy it legally anyway. Granted there are those that don’t, and it must be said, I don’t buy EVERY film or album i d/l, but I have a fair bit.

At the end of the day, people just like sharing, where I come from, sharing is good.

Comparing file sharing to DVD piracy is dumb. Theyre just fear mongering. It might look to them that theyre losing money, but in reality, thats bullshit and who watches CAMs anyway? I always wait for the DVD rip, which SHOCK; someone bought.

http://www.2entertain.co.uk/

2 Entertain Limited’s majority shareholder (606 shares out of 1000) is BBC Worldwide.

Impartial and balanced my ass. How can you be fair, impartial and balanced if one of your companies is in business with them.

We need a shot of corporate chemotherapy on cancerous companies such as FACT Ltd.

“B. To watch and investigate and to keep records for reference and comparison of, all matters in any way affecting copyright interests in all forms of audio visual recording, the use thereof and of all developments thereof and to decide upon, initiate and support proper methods for dealing with any contingency which may arise affecting such interests and for protecting the same.”

They conduct covert surveillance on UK citizens, keep databases and records of their “targets” and have bought themselves part of the Trading Standards service:

http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/AdviceAndBenefits/TradingStandards/FinancialInvestigations.aspx

..yes, if you read that link you did notice that FACT Ltd, a private limited company owned by the MPAA, have funded a specialist unit in Trading Standards that works specifically on whatever FACT wants. This also means that FACT has access to the same government databases that Trading Standards do. Also because TS have the power to enter premises, seize and retain property the MPAA, a US company, effectively have the power to enter the premises of UK citizens and take their property as well!

Corruption? You decide.

For P2P and the sort, it was never peer to peer pirating, but file sharing. Now sharing doesn’t sound menacing enough or at all to anyone who’s ignorant to the gears of it all.

To counter that they’ve effectively mapped this known menacing word “pirating” on us, and we’ve helped them do this (pirate bay..).

Pirating is for profit, theft for profit. It does relate to someone who’s selling copied discs for profit and without the authority to do so, but they are not file sharers and we are not them. That’s a distinction we can’t afford not to have cemented.

“X(t+oc)-R(OP)=e/p”
X is downloading, borrowing, listening to, copying, viewing online, having friends around to watch…anything they are not able to get their greedy hands in your pocket

t and oc Are X, because obviously X is not making them any cash, therefore X must be funding terrorism and organised crime. Same as with anything these people are not able to line their filthy pockets with; if they ain’t able to dine out on it, it’s evil.

The rest of the equation relates to greed, stupidity and revenue.

I think before the major film and music industries start creaming themselves – or indeed form a legitimate side line in revenue from appearing in this sort of quasi-documentary – I think they ought to consider paying someone £100,000,000 for a film or £80,000,000 for a couple of albums – and then sobbing like a child who wasted his pocket money is both stupid and self-defeating.

If your product is good, people will pay for it. If it’s crap they won’t.

I’m tired of everything that is not revenue generating being portrayed as evil just because Government and big business is not adding to their heap out of it.

CasualT – yeah, or they could have just read our article. Other stations have contacted us in the past for comment, and we’ve passed them on to others who’ve been happy to comment (such as Pirate Party spokesmen). They just didn’t bother.

“BBC FTW”

Good luck with that argument in an actual debate face to face, you wouldn’t last 2 seconds before being proved wrong.. Surely they could have found some “pirates” who would be willing to talk on the subject or similarly stage some pirates and make them look like idiots, could see them doing that too..