Comments on: The Brand New Pirate Party of Finland on File-Sharing http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sat, 26 May 2012 06:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: bewbiegirl http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-591289 bewbiegirl Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:51:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-591289 Really? hard to believe.i heard this news times from many friends playing on a tall dating site ___kisscougar. com___,i did not believe, i think that they are know nothing but dating and love. i am wrong. Really? hard to believe.i heard this news times from many friends playing on a tall dating site ___kisscougar. com___,i did not believe, i think that they are know nothing but dating and love.
i am wrong.

]]> By: Swedish court rules TPB admins too broke to pay damages | linkthe.com http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-591143 Swedish court rules TPB admins too broke to pay damages | linkthe.com Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:04:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-591143 [...] The Brand New Pirate Party of Finland on File-Sharing (torrentfreak.com) [...] [...] The Brand New Pirate Party of Finland on File-Sharing (torrentfreak.com) [...]

]]> By: ImAFinn http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590547 ImAFinn Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:12:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590547 And all i have to say is to hell with this country. Finns may have "Sisu" to fight, it's a shame that the majority (read:majority) are to stupid to determine for themselves what is worth fighting for. Lex Nokia, FRA, ACTA, 3-Strikes etc. The pattern is global and everybody should wake up. PS. As a finn i assume it is my duty to diss Sweden so here goes. * off Sverige! And all i have to say is to hell with this country. Finns may have “Sisu” to fight, it’s a shame that the majority (read:majority) are to stupid to determine for themselves what is worth fighting for.

Lex Nokia, FRA, ACTA, 3-Strikes etc. The pattern is global and everybody should wake up.

PS. As a finn i assume it is my duty to diss Sweden so here goes. * off Sverige!

]]> By: Tuomo http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590477 Tuomo Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:42:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590477 Holy fuck this was a fun read. Yes I am a finn and yes I will be bashing some people in this post but not like you might think. First off @Peter: Our country is far from perfect but so is yours. Sure Lex Nokia and Lex Karpela got voted in but there are so many computer and internet illiterates in our government that it is shameful. Only 1 person know what the fuck he is talking about. But don't think we just stood there and did nothing about it. We had protests and petitions and whatnot but it didn't work. I hope that someday, someone with half a brain will look at those laws and wipe their asses with them and throw them away. And as of your response to #32: For a single person to go to jail it has to be a server he is operating. No one will do jail time for downloading some songs. Besides if they try we can always argue that we have paid the cartels tons of cash on blank media levies for decades. And what the fuck has dressing to do with anything? Cowards and whiners? Really? C'mon man. Next up @Erik Andresson: We didn't start the name calling. We responded to accusations made by Peter. And as to the story of Finreactor. They were again running a server with warez. Not single downloaders but a server. Besides like I told Peter we tried to stop the legislation from passing but were shit outta luck because of idiots in parliment. @35: Really? That's the best that you came up with? Worse than Russia. Well at least we have some sort of freedom of speech here. Journalists don't get shot for writing articles. Holy fuck this was a fun read. Yes I am a finn and yes I will be bashing some people in this post but not like you might think.

First off @Peter: Our country is far from perfect but so is yours. Sure Lex Nokia and Lex Karpela got voted in but there are so many computer and internet illiterates in our government that it is shameful. Only 1 person know what the fuck he is talking about. But don’t think we just stood there and did nothing about it. We had protests and petitions and whatnot but it didn’t work. I hope that someday, someone with half a brain will look at those laws and wipe their asses with them and throw them away.

And as of your response to #32: For a single person to go to jail it has to be a server he is operating. No one will do jail time for downloading some songs. Besides if they try we can always argue that we have paid the cartels tons of cash on blank media levies for decades.

And what the fuck has dressing to do with anything? Cowards and whiners? Really? C’mon man.

Next up @Erik Andresson: We didn’t start the name calling. We responded to accusations made by Peter. And as to the story of Finreactor. They were again running a server with warez. Not single downloaders but a server. Besides like I told Peter we tried to stop the legislation from passing but were shit outta luck because of idiots in parliment.

@35: Really? That’s the best that you came up with? Worse than Russia. Well at least we have some sort of freedom of speech here. Journalists don’t get shot for writing articles.

]]> By: Truth http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590411 Truth Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:33:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590411 Why don't you dig up something that involves only DOWNLOADING, not hosting a site/hub/server? Because in those cases people will never go to jail, they don't even get conditional sentences. Even those who keep servers get only around few months conditional jail sentences, while in Sweden they get 1 full year(TPB) and millions of euros. Uploaders and Downloaders get only small fines (3000~ euros), and as we are much wealthier than our western neighbours, it is peanuts for regular finn. Oh, and is your name really Peter? I thought the most popular name in Sweden is Muhammed? So what do we get next from you, TheJihadBay? Soon you fools will have Sharia-laws, and then we see who is laughing. Why don’t you dig up something that involves only DOWNLOADING, not hosting a site/hub/server? Because in those cases people will never go to jail, they don’t even get conditional sentences.

Even those who keep servers get only around few months conditional jail sentences, while in Sweden they get 1 full year(TPB) and millions of euros.

Uploaders and Downloaders get only small fines (3000~ euros), and as we are much wealthier than our western neighbours, it is peanuts for regular finn.

Oh, and is your name really Peter? I thought the most popular name in Sweden is Muhammed? So what do we get next from you, TheJihadBay? Soon you fools will have Sharia-laws, and then we see who is laughing.

]]> By: The Brand New Pirate Party of Finland on File-Sharing | TorrentFreak | Finland today http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590347 The Brand New Pirate Party of Finland on File-Sharing | TorrentFreak | Finland today Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:19:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590347 [...] See the original post here: The Brand New Pirate Party of Finland on File-Sharing | TorrentFreak [...] [...] See the original post here: The Brand New Pirate Party of Finland on File-Sharing | TorrentFreak [...]

]]> By: Bobe-On http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590334 Bobe-On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:08:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590334 Seriously, guys. Any decent country can go to hell in a handbasket. No group has a monopoly on corruption. That's why it's important to be hard, sharp, wise and fast enough to deal with it when it rears its ugly head. And it will, it will, over and over again. "Give me back my broken night my mirrored room, my secret life it's lonely here, there's no one left to torture Give me absolute control over every living soul And lie beside me, baby, that's an order! Give me crack and anal sex Take the only tree that's left and stuff it up the hole in your culture Give me back the Berlin wall give me Stalin and St Paul I've seen the future, brother: it is murder... I've seen the nations rise and fall I've heard their stories, heard them all but love's the only engine of survival..." Clip from 'The Future', By Leonard Cohen Seriously, guys. Any decent country can go to hell in a handbasket.
No group has a monopoly on corruption.
That’s why it’s important to be hard, sharp, wise and fast enough to deal with it when it rears its ugly head. And it will, it will, over and over again.

“Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it’s lonely here,
there’s no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that’s an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that’s left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I’ve seen the future, brother:
it is murder…

I’ve seen the nations rise and fall
I’ve heard their stories, heard them all
but love’s the only engine of survival…”

Clip from ‘The Future’,
By Leonard Cohen

]]> By: Finlandsucks http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590332 Finlandsucks Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:54:45 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590332 So who gives a damn about that s**tty country anyways? It's worse than a russian anyways so why should we care? If they don't have balls to defend theyr own rights, then so be it. They don't need any rights since they're not willing to defend them anyways. As a matter of fact, they don't DESERVE any rights unless theyre actually willing earn them. So who gives a damn about that s**tty country anyways? It’s worse than a russian anyways so why should we care? If they don’t have balls to defend theyr own rights, then so be it. They don’t need any rights since they’re not willing to defend them anyways. As a matter of fact, they don’t DESERVE any rights unless theyre actually willing earn them.

]]> By: Erik Andersson http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590316 Erik Andersson Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:16:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590316 Like Peter Sunde said here in above comments. I can not agree more about Finland and finns. We are talking about your country finns. So you start insult us that we did not stop FRA and other nonsense. We are talking about Finland not Sweden! Finns always try cover and hide their dirty asses by insulting others or trying translate debate to other topics. Exactly what most finns which above topics. When digging deep more shit can found in Finland copyright system. "Previously, in 2006, the Turku District Court sentenced the BitTorrent protocol used Finreactor Service Administrators of copyright violations and fines of more than 500 000 euros compensation." http://translate.google.fi/translate?prev=hp&hl=fi&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.antipiracy.fi%2Fajankohtaista%2F%3Fid%3D177&sl=fi&tl=en&history_state0= Like Peter Sunde said above comments ugly truth comes out about finns and Finland. Why try hide and lie finns? You think we swedish are stupid that we don't know about your country. We know more about your corrupted and shit copyright laws than you think. We don't want your shit copyright laws in our country. That is what Finland copyright MAFIAA is trying to do lobby same laws to us. GTFO! Like Peter Sunde said here in above comments. I can not agree more about Finland and finns.

We are talking about your country finns. So you start insult us that we did not stop FRA and other nonsense. We are talking about Finland not Sweden!

Finns always try cover and hide their dirty asses by insulting others or trying translate debate to other topics. Exactly what most finns which above topics. When digging deep more shit can found in Finland copyright system.

“Previously, in 2006, the Turku District Court sentenced the BitTorrent protocol used Finreactor Service Administrators of copyright violations and fines of more than 500 000 euros compensation.”

http://translate.google.fi/translate?prev=hp&hl=fi&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.antipiracy.fi%2Fajankohtaista%2F%3Fid%3D177&sl=fi&tl=en&history_state0=

Like Peter Sunde said above comments ugly truth comes out about finns and Finland. Why try hide and lie finns? You think we swedish are stupid that we don’t know about your country. We know more about your corrupted and shit copyright laws than you think. We don’t want your shit copyright laws in our country. That is what Finland copyright MAFIAA is trying to do lobby same laws to us. GTFO!

]]> By: Peter http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590311 Peter Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:56:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590311 32@ Too much lies to cover ugly truth about Finland and desperate action to make own country look better. All who believe what 32@ say should read this. "Imprisonment pirate server, the administrator of the Seinäjoki Finland district court Seinäjoki Finland District Court sentenced on Friday, 5.6.2009 34-year-old man for one year and two-month conditional jail sentence. Copyright violation, the man was sentenced to pay the right of copyright holders under the imputation of compensation of 76 654 €. In addition, damages and legal costs came to pay a total of 9 492 €. Direct Connect -hubia (DC-hubi). The man was set up and maintained a data network Härmän Häjyt called Direct Connect hubia (DC-Hub)." http://translate.google.fi/translate?prev=hp&hl=fi&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.antipiracy.fi%2Fajankohtaista%2F%3Fid%3D177&sl=fi&tl=en&history_state0= 32@ Too much lies to cover ugly truth about Finland and desperate
action to make own country look better. All who believe what 32@ say should read this.

“Imprisonment pirate server, the administrator of the Seinäjoki Finland district court

Seinäjoki Finland District Court sentenced on Friday, 5.6.2009 34-year-old man for one year and two-month conditional jail sentence.

Copyright violation, the man was sentenced to pay the right of copyright holders under the imputation of compensation of 76 654 €. In addition, damages and legal costs came to pay a total of 9 492 €. Direct Connect -hubia (DC-hubi). The man was set up and maintained a data network Härmän Häjyt called Direct Connect hubia (DC-Hub).”

http://translate.google.fi/translate?prev=hp&hl=fi&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.antipiracy.fi%2Fajankohtaista%2F%3Fid%3D177&sl=fi&tl=en&history_state0=

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590257 Anonymous Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:46:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590257 Some info from a Finn. Fact is that no-one is going to sit 2 years for copyright crimes. Every sentence given from copyright infringement have been conditional discharge of few months, so it is easy here. If the MAFIAA will try to go with the civil way, they will only gain few euros. Usually people have to pay only around 3000 euros for thousands of files, which is nothing for a finn, as the average monthly paycheck is around the same amount. 85% of the people under 20 have downloaded illegal material (and fully knowing it is illegal), and 65% do it regularly. All of our parties youth organizations are also against these reforms, so future looks bright. Some info from a Finn.

Fact is that no-one is going to sit 2 years for copyright crimes. Every sentence given from copyright infringement have been conditional discharge of few months, so it is easy here.

If the MAFIAA will try to go with the civil way, they will only gain few euros. Usually people have to pay only around 3000 euros for thousands of files, which is nothing for a finn, as the average monthly paycheck is around the same amount.

85% of the people under 20 have downloaded illegal material (and fully knowing it is illegal), and 65% do it regularly. All of our parties youth organizations are also against these reforms, so future looks bright.

]]> By: John davis http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590208 John davis Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:54:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590208 Oh wow, seems pretty reasonable to me dude! RT www.web-tools.us.tc Oh wow, seems pretty reasonable to me dude!

RT
http://www.web-tools.us.tc

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590180 Anonymous Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:19:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590180 I wonder how they would deal with encrypted traffic to show messages LoL I wonder how they would deal with encrypted traffic to show messages LoL

]]> By: PetFoodz.Info http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590177 PetFoodz.Info Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:49:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590177 Canada has many of the methods Finland uses currently.. Yet the RIAA (CRIA)\MPAA still want to turn us into a DMCA laden country with no power.. It's so not cool.. Canada has many of the methods Finland uses currently.. Yet the RIAA (CRIA)\MPAA still want to turn us into a DMCA laden country with no power.. It’s so not cool..

]]> By: Bobe-On http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590169 Bobe-On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:20:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590169 Check this out; this is too cool and so appropriate (kind of brings a tear to my eye): "The Man from Earth is a 2007 science fiction film... The movie gained recognition in part for being widely distributed through Internet peer-to-peer networks and its producer publicly thanked users of these networks for this." ... "The film tells a story of John Oldman, a man claiming to be a Cro-Magnon... who still survives after 14,000 years... the film is an intellectual discourse between the alleged 14,000-year-old Cro-Magnon and his professor and teacher friends at his farewell party." -- Wikip. "...the adult female found at the shelter had survived for some time with a skull fracture. As these injuries would be life threatening even today, this suggests that Cro-Magnons believed in community support and took care of each others' injuries." :.) . . See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck "Star Wreck is a series of Finnish Star Trek parody movies started by Samuli Torssonen in 1992... All Star Wreck films are available for free download and viewing online. They are offered under a Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs-NonCommercials licence." Big hugs to Finland from Canada. Check this out; this is too cool and so appropriate (kind of brings a tear to my eye):

“The Man from Earth is a 2007 science fiction film… The movie gained recognition in part for being widely distributed through Internet peer-to-peer networks and its producer publicly thanked users of these networks for this.”
…
“The film tells a story of John Oldman, a man claiming to be a Cro-Magnon… who still survives after 14,000 years… the film is an intellectual discourse between the alleged 14,000-year-old Cro-Magnon and his professor and teacher friends at his farewell party.”
– Wikip.

“…the adult female found at the shelter had survived for some time with a skull fracture. As these injuries would be life threatening even today, this suggests that Cro-Magnons believed in community support and took care of each others’ injuries.”

:.) . .

See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck
“Star Wreck is a series of Finnish Star Trek parody movies started by Samuli Torssonen in 1992… All Star Wreck films are available for free download and viewing online. They are offered under a Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs-NonCommercials licence.”

Big hugs to Finland from Canada.

]]> By: Matheus Svensson http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590167 Matheus Svensson Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:56:04 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590167 The suggestion of on-screen warnings appears to be completely separate from the notification process. Shoving the memo through Google gives me only ‘notification by e-mail or paper letter.’ HTTP hijacking is fraught with difficulties and is no way to notify an ISP account holder that a rights holder has made an accusation of copyright infringement. I believe what’s being proposed is the hijacking of pages on file-sharing websites to include a generic warning that, if you proceed, you might be committing copyright infringement. I don’t know if the idea is to put a warning message on the homepage or every page of sites such as The Pirate Bay and RapidShare, or only for specific URLs where a rights holder has made a complaint. Allowing such warning messages would require a fundamental shift in legal thinking. The change in legislation would have to allow the systematic interception and manipulation of web traffic for a purpose other than essential network management. Things like ‘confidentiality of communications’ and ‘mere conduit’ would go out the window. This is exactly the sort of egregious spying that the various Pirate Parties are deeply concerned about. It would be the start of a very slippery slope. The suggestion of on-screen warnings appears to be completely separate from the notification process. Shoving the memo through Google gives me only ‘notification by e-mail or paper letter.’ HTTP hijacking is fraught with difficulties and is no way to notify an ISP account holder that a rights holder has made an accusation of copyright infringement.

I believe what’s being proposed is the hijacking of pages on file-sharing websites to include a generic warning that, if you proceed, you might be committing copyright infringement. I don’t know if the idea is to put a warning message on the homepage or every page of sites such as The Pirate Bay and RapidShare, or only for specific URLs where a rights holder has made a complaint.

Allowing such warning messages would require a fundamental shift in legal thinking. The change in legislation would have to allow the systematic interception and manipulation of web traffic for a purpose other than essential network management. Things like ‘confidentiality of communications’ and ‘mere conduit’ would go out the window. This is exactly the sort of egregious spying that the various Pirate Parties are deeply concerned about. It would be the start of a very slippery slope.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590128 Anonymous Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:10:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590128 And the political landscape starts to change little by little and maybe in the future sympathetic ears and pockets will not be available anymore to the industry :) And the political landscape starts to change little by little and maybe in the future sympathetic ears and pockets will not be available anymore to the industry :)

]]> By: Trollface http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590123 Trollface Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:47:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590123 If we don't have sisu, then why the hell did we form pirate Party in the first place? to sit back and get corrupted? Hell no. We're fighting, but we're not high profile enough to get to the news yet. If we don’t have sisu, then why the hell did we form pirate Party in the first place? to sit back and get corrupted? Hell no.

We’re fighting, but we’re not high profile enough to get to the news yet.

]]> By: A Finnish pirate http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590120 A Finnish pirate Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:44:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590120 Well you didn't even stop FRA law in Sweden. Nuff said. Well you didn’t even stop FRA law in Sweden. Nuff said.

]]> By: plasmarifle http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590107 plasmarifle Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:09:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590107 come on everyone knows the finnish are from outer space come on everyone knows the finnish are from outer space

]]> By: time traveling white rabbit http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590105 time traveling white rabbit Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:08:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590105 @21 thats funny...i would have guessed people of a different ethnic origin before i guessed finns @21

thats funny…i would have guessed people of a different ethnic origin before i guessed finns

]]> By: Bobe-On http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590092 Bobe-On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:11:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590092 @basement dweller: I'm a big fan of free Finnish electronica so perhaps I have some Finnish in me and my people of long ago are communicating with me... "Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements." -- Wikip. Ok well perhaps not. ;D Best wishes on your new party. @basement dweller:

I’m a big fan of free Finnish electronica so perhaps I have some Finnish in me and my people of long ago are communicating with me…

“Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements.”
– Wikip.

Ok well perhaps not. ;D

Best wishes on your new party.

]]> By: #YLS# http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590062 #YLS# Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:29:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590062 How many countries have Pirate parties now... it must be the only or at least biggest polical movement in the world technically. How many countries have Pirate parties now… it must be the only or at least biggest polical movement in the world technically.

]]> By: Peter http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590059 Peter Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:20:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590059 I hope finns take my critic as creative and positive way and stand up for fight. They should use their "SISU" and become more active and fight. Less whining and less coward things. Much more action!!! I hope finns take my critic as creative and positive way and stand up for fight. They should use their “SISU” and become more active and fight. Less whining and less coward things. Much more action!!!

]]> By: Timo http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590054 Timo Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:03:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590054 You should shut up Peter S_U_N_D_E. You did earn millions with illegal things but you are fully right of course :( You should shut up Peter S_U_N_D_E. You did earn millions with illegal things but you are fully right of course :(

]]> By: Peter http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590053 Peter Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:00:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590053 I live in Sweden and in Finland situtation is very bad. Copyright lobby make new laws and most peoples and goverment agree anything. Lex Karpela and Lex Nokia laws www.wikipedia.org makes Finland near best police nation in world. Copyright lobby owns all politicians and parties in Finland. Most amazing is finnish people attitude they simply do nothing only whine in internet how bad situation. They do nothing to change things. Next move finnish copyright lobby is planning to make law "3 strikes" Which France was first planing to use. Finland is one of to worst countries. Peoples there are whiners and cowards and they accept any new laws what MAFIAA make. Also finnish pirate party is joke, because they can not debate in TV very well and dressing is like poor man. Also pirate party in Finland is not very active not much members and finns simply don't have fighting mental. Bad country. I live in Sweden and in Finland situtation is very bad. Copyright lobby make new laws and most peoples and goverment agree anything. Lex Karpela and Lex Nokia laws http://www.wikipedia.org makes Finland near best police nation in world.

Copyright lobby owns all politicians and parties in Finland. Most amazing is finnish people attitude they simply do nothing only whine in internet how bad situation. They do nothing to change things. Next move finnish copyright lobby is planning to make law “3 strikes” Which France was first planing to use.

Finland is one of to worst countries. Peoples there are whiners and cowards and they accept any new laws what MAFIAA make. Also finnish pirate party is joke, because they can not debate in TV very well and dressing is like poor man. Also pirate party in Finland is not very active not much members and finns simply don’t have fighting mental. Bad country.

]]> By: Kaj Sotala http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590050 Kaj Sotala Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:49:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590050 "Explains why Kaj seems positive to the idea." I'm not really positive to the idea - I was merely reporting what the memo in question said. “Explains why Kaj seems positive to the idea.”

I’m not really positive to the idea – I was merely reporting what the memo in question said.

]]> By: Thomas http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590047 Thomas Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:46:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590047 6. Italy 7. NL 8. Japan 9. Australia 10. new zealend top 10 countries which are most police nations in world = copyright nations. 6. Italy 7. NL 8. Japan 9. Australia 10. new zealend

top 10 countries which are most police nations in world = copyright nations.

]]> By: Thomas http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590046 Thomas Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:44:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590046 I lived in Finland but moved norway this year. Finland is world fifth place in police nation comparision. 1. China 2. USA 3. UK 4. France 5. Finland. But Finland is fast moving to be world most police nation. Finland and Finland copyright laws sucks so much :( I lived in Finland but moved norway this year. Finland is world fifth place in police nation comparision.
1. China 2. USA 3. UK 4. France 5. Finland.

But Finland is fast moving to be world most police nation. Finland and Finland copyright laws sucks so much :(

]]> By: nnnnnn http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590044 nnnnnn Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:38:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590044 Aug 21, 2009 at 16:35 by bewbiegirl LOL @bewbiegirl I don't think this is the right place to post that kind of info. Aug 21, 2009 at 16:35 by bewbiegirl

LOL @bewbiegirl I don’t think this is the right place to post that kind of info.

]]> By: Jay http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590043 Jay Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:35:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590043 Tbh, i'd welcome them to my house before i'd welcome a popup, i have a nice fence, plenty of warning signs and 2 very grouchy Rottweilers (not had a salesman knock on my door in 3 years). Tbh, i’d welcome them to my house before i’d welcome a popup, i have a nice fence, plenty of warning signs and 2 very grouchy Rottweilers (not had a salesman knock on my door in 3 years).

]]> By: Old Timer http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590038 Old Timer Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:04:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590038 A Canadian ISP is currently injecting content into a browser session showing usage or telling you your over your limit: Article: Rogers Again Injects Web Pages With Its Own Content Friday June 26, 2009 http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4083/125/ A Canadian ISP is currently injecting content into a browser session showing usage or telling you your over your limit:

Article:
Rogers Again Injects Web Pages With Its Own Content
Friday June 26, 2009

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4083/125/

]]> By: mattias http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590034 mattias Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:41:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590034 lol. this is all so messed up :P lol. this is all so messed up :P

]]> By: Shaun Ryder Jr http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590022 Shaun Ryder Jr Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:39:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590022 Finnish Pirate Party Chairman Pasi Palmulehto said the party would call for "a reform of copyright laws, protecting privacy and freedom of speech as well as transparency in politics." http://www.swedishwire.com/politics/776-pirate-party-swashbuckles-into-finnish-politics- Finnish Pirate Party Chairman Pasi Palmulehto said the party would call for “a reform of copyright laws, protecting privacy and freedom of speech as well as transparency in politics.”

http://www.swedishwire.com/politics/776-pirate-party-swashbuckles-into-finnish-politics-

]]> By: basement dweller http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590020 basement dweller Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:07:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590020 I have some hope my government (I am Finnish) will have a backbone and refuse MAFIAA bullying. Around here we still believe the gvt is for the people! F stands for free, I stands for inventive, N stands for non-conformist. ;) I have some hope my government (I am Finnish) will have a backbone and refuse MAFIAA bullying. Around here we still believe the gvt is for the people!

F stands for free, I stands for inventive, N stands for non-conformist. ;)

]]> By: P2P Worshiper http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590012 P2P Worshiper Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:51:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590012 sorry forgot the rest of the message: @ SoUHmmm nahh that is easy to make. the ISP can force your browser to start up (only when you start your browser by you self) on the ISP's oven page, by redirecting the first HTTP request of your browser. and after the message was displayed then your browser make a cookie whit an time stamp that is maybe only an hour valid or till you next time restart your PC sorry forgot the rest of the message:

@ SoUHmmm

nahh that is easy to make.
the ISP can force your browser to start up (only when you start your browser by you self) on the ISP’s oven page, by redirecting the first HTTP request of your browser.
and after the message was displayed then your browser make a cookie whit an time stamp that is maybe only an hour valid or till you next time restart your PC

]]> By: P2P Worshiper http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590011 P2P Worshiper Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:46:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590011 @ SoUHmmm nahh that is easy to make. the ISP can force your browser to start up (only when you start your browser by you self) on the ISP's oven page @ SoUHmmm

nahh that is easy to make.
the ISP can force your browser to start up (only when you start your browser by you self) on the ISP’s oven page

]]> By: SoUHmmmm http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590007 SoUHmmmm Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:40:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590007 How would they get the software on your PC required to send you notices to your screen? Will this software be open source and cross platform? You can't just popup a message to someone anymore (well most people block that Windows Messaging Service now). How would they get the software on your PC required to send you notices to your screen? Will this software be open source and cross platform? You can’t just popup a message to someone anymore (well most people block that Windows Messaging Service now).

]]> By: P2P Worshiper http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-590000 P2P Worshiper Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:20:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-590000 It sound good that the MPAA should pay for the ISP's extra work whit that. But as it is, was an will be, the MPAA will surly play’s there mussels again and force the government to implement this service they need, and than force the ISP to bill this one on there oven cost again. And in the end it will be the user that will pay for this implement, because the ISP will raise the access cost for there’s costumers. Because this has already happened when the military /government have forced the ISP’s of every country to Log and store (minimum half year) every traffic on there networks (Internet and Mobile) in the name of Anti-Terrorist plan 9/11 crap. It sound good that the MPAA should pay for the ISP’s extra work whit that.

But as it is, was an will be, the MPAA will surly play’s there mussels again and force the government to implement this service they need, and than force the ISP to bill this one on there oven cost again.
And in the end it will be the user that will pay for this implement, because the ISP will raise the access cost for there’s costumers.
Because this has already happened when the military /government have forced the ISP’s of every country to Log and store (minimum half year) every traffic on there networks (Internet and Mobile) in the name of Anti-Terrorist plan 9/11 crap.

]]> By: Holo http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-589997 Holo Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:12:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-589997 @eZee: lol good point. Explains why Kaj seems positive to the idea. But still...MAFIAA pop-ups *shudder* @eZee: lol good point. Explains why Kaj seems positive to the idea.

But still…MAFIAA pop-ups *shudder*

]]> By: www.eZee.se http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-589989 www.eZee.se Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:58:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-589989 "According to the proposal, rights holders would be required to pay for the system" I bet that got the bitches whining... they went everyone else to do the work on other peoples money and sit back and wait for bags of money to fall in their laps. I think the MAFIAA popups are a good idea, as you get the first one of those you can know you are being monitored and its time to switch to a VPN solution... “According to the proposal, rights holders would be required to pay for the system”
I bet that got the bitches whining… they went everyone else to do the work on other peoples money and sit back and wait for bags of money to fall in their laps.

I think the MAFIAA popups are a good idea, as you get the first one of those you can know you are being monitored and its time to switch to a VPN solution…

]]> By: Holo http://torrentfreak.com/the-brand-new-pirate-party-of-finland-on-file-sharing-090821/#comment-589988 Holo Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:55:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=16374#comment-589988 If my ISP started giving me MAFIAA pop-ups telling me to quit filesharing they would never receive another cent from me. I would bail in a heartbeat, thats just messed up. I'd feel less violated if their goons showed up at my door i think. If my ISP started giving me MAFIAA pop-ups telling me to quit filesharing they would never receive another cent from me. I would bail in a heartbeat, thats just messed up. I’d feel less violated if their goons showed up at my door i think.

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