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		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-47694</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what i think... I think you guys are little prissy bitches that just want another thing to bitch about. In defence to Bit Torrent.. Ive gotten terabytes and terabytes of GREAT downloads. You guys just want another thing to bitch about just enjoy the free downloads. And look at it like this, if there was no bit torrent.. there would just be another way to get illegal stuff. As soon as bit torrent is put to rest... theirs going to be something new and improved to get around the laws. So bitch about that you fuckin tree huginf hippies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what i think&#8230; I think you guys are little prissy bitches that just want another thing to bitch about. In defence to Bit Torrent.. Ive gotten terabytes and terabytes of GREAT downloads. You guys just want another thing to bitch about just enjoy the free downloads. And look at it like this, if there was no bit torrent.. there would just be another way to get illegal stuff. As soon as bit torrent is put to rest&#8230; theirs going to be something new and improved to get around the laws. So bitch about that you fuckin tree huginf hippies.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoovious</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-2563</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoovious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 21:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@whocare: that&#039;s just asinine. Banned? The torrent protocol isn&#039;t a network like Napster, and unlike Napster, torrent clients are not designed or advertised specifically for transferring questionable content. There are many beneficial uses to it. Our own government (US) angencies even use it! NASA has all of their huge files available on torrents and run their own trackers and seeders.

Banning torrents because they _can_ be used for illicit content is just silly.

By your logic, we should also ban the ftp protocol as well, since it is also widely used for illicit content.

In fact, peer-to-peer transfers with instant messengers and DCC&#039;s with IRC can also be used for illicit content, so lets ban all of those to.

Guess what! There&#039;s a lot of illicit content using the http protocol as well! So lets ban that too.

You can find illicit content on the newsgroups, so lets ban the nntp protocol.

You can even get illicit content through mail-reply servers like in the 80&#039;s. We&#039;ll have to ban pop3/smtp/imap4 too..

In fact, any protocol you can use to transfer a file, can be used to get illicit content, so we&#039;ll have to ban _ALL_ file transferring protocols, so that just leaves us telnet.

Hmm, no wait. We used to use Z-modem and uucico with telnet connections, so we can transfer files with telnet too, so we&#039;ll have to ban that.

Bottom line, is the tcp/ip system itself, is designed for transferring data. Only way to be sure would be to ban the whole internet itself...

Your position is stupid. The torrent protocol is on par with the ftp protocol and other protocols.

I suppose if someone gets shot and killed, you think it is the gun&#039;s fault too?

Get real, and take your head out of your ass...

-- Smoovious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@whocare: that&#8217;s just asinine. Banned? The torrent protocol isn&#8217;t a network like Napster, and unlike Napster, torrent clients are not designed or advertised specifically for transferring questionable content. There are many beneficial uses to it. Our own government (US) angencies even use it! NASA has all of their huge files available on torrents and run their own trackers and seeders.</p>
<p>Banning torrents because they _can_ be used for illicit content is just silly.</p>
<p>By your logic, we should also ban the ftp protocol as well, since it is also widely used for illicit content.</p>
<p>In fact, peer-to-peer transfers with instant messengers and DCC&#8217;s with IRC can also be used for illicit content, so lets ban all of those to.</p>
<p>Guess what! There&#8217;s a lot of illicit content using the http protocol as well! So lets ban that too.</p>
<p>You can find illicit content on the newsgroups, so lets ban the nntp protocol.</p>
<p>You can even get illicit content through mail-reply servers like in the 80&#8217;s. We&#8217;ll have to ban pop3/smtp/imap4 too..</p>
<p>In fact, any protocol you can use to transfer a file, can be used to get illicit content, so we&#8217;ll have to ban _ALL_ file transferring protocols, so that just leaves us telnet.</p>
<p>Hmm, no wait. We used to use Z-modem and uucico with telnet connections, so we can transfer files with telnet too, so we&#8217;ll have to ban that.</p>
<p>Bottom line, is the tcp/ip system itself, is designed for transferring data. Only way to be sure would be to ban the whole internet itself&#8230;</p>
<p>Your position is stupid. The torrent protocol is on par with the ftp protocol and other protocols.</p>
<p>I suppose if someone gets shot and killed, you think it is the gun&#8217;s fault too?</p>
<p>Get real, and take your head out of your ass&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211; Smoovious</p>
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		<title>By: whocare</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-2460</link>
		<dc:creator>whocare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 22:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BitTorrent is used mainly for sharing illegal content.  Have you ever did a search for a copyrighted software on music from isohunt.com or raphustle.com  They even have movies.  Raphustle.com shows how many times a download has been completed.  I&#039;ve seen movies on there that are completed 12000 times.  The minimum music is illegal shared is 2000-8000 times.  I can&#039;t say I ever seen a site with legal content for torrents.  The first time I used a torret was to download linux software.  Since then torrents are used to search and get much more illegal material.  I think torrents should be banned, it&#039;s just napster without the search program, so you go to a website and search for the illegal material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BitTorrent is used mainly for sharing illegal content.  Have you ever did a search for a copyrighted software on music from isohunt.com or raphustle.com  They even have movies.  Raphustle.com shows how many times a download has been completed.  I&#8217;ve seen movies on there that are completed 12000 times.  The minimum music is illegal shared is 2000-8000 times.  I can&#8217;t say I ever seen a site with legal content for torrents.  The first time I used a torret was to download linux software.  Since then torrents are used to search and get much more illegal material.  I think torrents should be banned, it&#8217;s just napster without the search program, so you go to a website and search for the illegal material.</p>
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		<title>By: ulterior</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>ulterior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this trouble to shut down p2p technology, the ability to share files.. They must have realized that if they cant even keep there software from being reverse engineered, that there gonna keep the online communities from comming up with ways around the bandwidth limiting.. All there doing is fighting a lost cause to many stupid people paying smart people lots of money to stop something that cant be stopped..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this trouble to shut down p2p technology, the ability to share files.. They must have realized that if they cant even keep there software from being reverse engineered, that there gonna keep the online communities from comming up with ways around the bandwidth limiting.. All there doing is fighting a lost cause to many stupid people paying smart people lots of money to stop something that cant be stopped..</p>
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		<title>By: Niros</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-827</link>
		<dc:creator>Niros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As more and more rules are enforced, more and more ways and reasons appear to break those rules. No matter what they impliment to prevent illegal activity, no matter how complex their solution. There will always be one person (or perhaps many) who are better skilled than those who implimented it and can therefor develop a way around it. The only question is, how long before it effects someone with those skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As more and more rules are enforced, more and more ways and reasons appear to break those rules. No matter what they impliment to prevent illegal activity, no matter how complex their solution. There will always be one person (or perhaps many) who are better skilled than those who implimented it and can therefor develop a way around it. The only question is, how long before it effects someone with those skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionel Baden</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionel Baden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i think many of you are arguing about the wrong thing. I would agree that most of the data transfered is illigal but thats not the point.
  but if i were you i wouldnt worry to much. 
Look what happened when napster died. 20 new ones sprung up to take its place.

And anyway soon the internet will be so standard and unoposed the big companies wont have any choice their connections will soon be given away for free.
some are already doing so. so what do they care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i think many of you are arguing about the wrong thing. I would agree that most of the data transfered is illigal but thats not the point.<br />
  but if i were you i wouldnt worry to much.<br />
Look what happened when napster died. 20 new ones sprung up to take its place.</p>
<p>And anyway soon the internet will be so standard and unoposed the big companies wont have any choice their connections will soon be given away for free.<br />
some are already doing so. so what do they care.</p>
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		<title>By: XAVIER</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>XAVIER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that ISP&#039;s would not block bittorrent protocol&#039;s like everyone else.But where i live its not only the ISP&#039;s doing the blocking now.

I worked at a college property not long back as a maintenance tech.And out of my apartment there i built custom computers for clients of mine.

The property had a 1 GIG download limit there.When i hit that limit for the first time the server shut my internet off.

When i asked why my net was shut off i was told by my manager that this had been done to stop p2p and bittorrent programs due to virus&#039;s getting into thier system.

My opinion &quot;no matter how this is viewed
it is another right being taken away from us&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that ISP&#8217;s would not block bittorrent protocol&#8217;s like everyone else.But where i live its not only the ISP&#8217;s doing the blocking now.</p>
<p>I worked at a college property not long back as a maintenance tech.And out of my apartment there i built custom computers for clients of mine.</p>
<p>The property had a 1 GIG download limit there.When i hit that limit for the first time the server shut my internet off.</p>
<p>When i asked why my net was shut off i was told by my manager that this had been done to stop p2p and bittorrent programs due to virus&#8217;s getting into thier system.</p>
<p>My opinion &#8220;no matter how this is viewed<br />
it is another right being taken away from us&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When all you have to do is change the ports and presto! no more banning&quot;

Doesn&#039;t quite work like that. 

Bandwidth shaping technologies look into the packet header and determines the protocol from that - so regardless of what port you use, P2P traffic gets blocked.

This is why header encryption of the bittorrent protocol is causing such media attention - because their expensive new software to shape your bandwidth is not going to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When all you have to do is change the ports and presto! no more banning&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t quite work like that. </p>
<p>Bandwidth shaping technologies look into the packet header and determines the protocol from that &#8211; so regardless of what port you use, P2P traffic gets blocked.</p>
<p>This is why header encryption of the bittorrent protocol is causing such media attention &#8211; because their expensive new software to shape your bandwidth is not going to work.</p>
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		<title>By: RAZMATAZ</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>RAZMATAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL LET THEM BAN WAT THEY WANT, OR EVEN SHUT DOWN THE NET, BUT BEFORE THEY ACHIEVE THAT IT`S OUR TIME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL LET THEM BAN WAT THEY WANT, OR EVEN SHUT DOWN THE NET, BUT BEFORE THEY ACHIEVE THAT IT`S OUR TIME</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When all you have to do is change the ports and presto! no more banning&quot;

As an example, Rogers has software they created that is *supposed* to recognize what the traffic is and deny passage to what they decide shouldn&#039;t go through. It&#039;s impossible to make a computer think critically, they just do what they&#039;re told by a programmer and the user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When all you have to do is change the ports and presto! no more banning&#8221;</p>
<p>As an example, Rogers has software they created that is *supposed* to recognize what the traffic is and deny passage to what they decide shouldn&#8217;t go through. It&#8217;s impossible to make a computer think critically, they just do what they&#8217;re told by a programmer and the user.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well how exactly do the ISPs plan to ban bittorent??? When all you have to do is change the ports and presto! no more banning...thinking they can just ban the the regular bittorrent ports wont work.   unless they monitor your upload/download traffic and start capping you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well how exactly do the ISPs plan to ban bittorent??? When all you have to do is change the ports and presto! no more banning&#8230;thinking they can just ban the the regular bittorrent ports wont work.   unless they monitor your upload/download traffic and start capping you.</p>
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		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/the-geeks-will-always-win/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>J. L. Seagull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought...
Government&#039;s job is supposed to reflect the will of the people...
If most of the people are doing something illegal...
Doesn&#039;t that mean that it&#039;s a problem with the government, not the people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought&#8230;<br />
Government&#8217;s job is supposed to reflect the will of the people&#8230;<br />
If most of the people are doing something illegal&#8230;<br />
Doesn&#8217;t that mean that it&#8217;s a problem with the government, not the people?</p>
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