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		<title>By: GREEN PIRATE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reader Appreciation Time &#8211; 5,000 Green Pirate Visitors</title>
		<link>/the-moral-battle-between-pirates-and-lobbyists-120128/#comment-889581</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GREEN PIRATE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reader Appreciation Time &#8211; 5,000 Green Pirate Visitors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] after finding out I had over 40,000 readers in a day when Ernesto was kind enough to give me a guest post. It&#8217;s nice to keep to the underground vibe as I get a sense that most readers, particularly [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after finding out I had over 40,000 readers in a day when Ernesto was kind enough to give me a guest post. It&#8217;s nice to keep to the underground vibe as I get a sense that most readers, particularly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Piracy and Copyright &#124; Hiko the stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Piracy and Copyright &#124; Hiko the stingray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/the-moral-battle-between-pirates-and-lobbyists-120128/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/the-moral-battle-between-pirates-and-lobbyists-120128/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is &quot;FTW&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is &#8220;FTW&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Millais</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophelia Millais]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree except for one thing - trickle-down economics does work. When the rich are pissing on you, it trickles right down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree except for one thing &#8211; trickle-down economics does work. When the rich are pissing on you, it trickles right down.</p>
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		<title>By: Mwhahaha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mwhahaha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So how many people have to ask these types of things before anyone in power pays any attn to these points?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how many people have to ask these types of things before anyone in power pays any attn to these points?</p>
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		<title>By: Run4u</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Run4u]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[U R welcom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U R welcom.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Q.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Q.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t. The farmer should get paid for his own honest work, as should everyone else. I would, however, vote in favour of the freedom to copy and share groceries. You know, like farmers do. Or like Jesus did with the five loaves and two fish.

Of course, with patents on life forms, Jesus would end up in prison if those loaves contained genetically modified grain. I guess he&#039;d better steer clear of the US &amp; countries with similar patent laws...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t. The farmer should get paid for his own honest work, as should everyone else. I would, however, vote in favour of the freedom to copy and share groceries. You know, like farmers do. Or like Jesus did with the five loaves and two fish.</p>
<p>Of course, with patents on life forms, Jesus would end up in prison if those loaves contained genetically modified grain. I guess he&#8217;d better steer clear of the US &amp; countries with similar patent laws&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Q.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Q.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would all of those downloads have translated into sales? Of course not!
Did some of those downloads result in a subsequent sale? Of course!

What it sums up to, gain or loss for Bethesda, is impossible to say without doing serious research. What can be said, though, is this: Certainly, if they&#039;re so confident in their claim of loosing huge amounts on file sharing, the industry must have funded plenty of research to prove it. Where is this research? Why has nothing substantial been published to support industry claims?

Based on this suspicious behaviour from the industry, I&#039;m willing to proceed on the assumption that they have attempted to prove their theory, and failed miserably. If they want me to believe differently, that&#039;s easily accomplished: Publish peer-reviewed research, complete with underlying data. Without copy protection, and without trying to get paid for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would all of those downloads have translated into sales? Of course not!<br />
Did some of those downloads result in a subsequent sale? Of course!</p>
<p>What it sums up to, gain or loss for Bethesda, is impossible to say without doing serious research. What can be said, though, is this: Certainly, if they&#8217;re so confident in their claim of loosing huge amounts on file sharing, the industry must have funded plenty of research to prove it. Where is this research? Why has nothing substantial been published to support industry claims?</p>
<p>Based on this suspicious behaviour from the industry, I&#8217;m willing to proceed on the assumption that they have attempted to prove their theory, and failed miserably. If they want me to believe differently, that&#8217;s easily accomplished: Publish peer-reviewed research, complete with underlying data. Without copy protection, and without trying to get paid for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Q.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Q.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether tax cuts for the wealthy create jobs, depends entirely on how the tax cuts are structured. High taxes for the wealthy can also create jobs, again depending on the structure. The key is to &quot;reward&quot; job creation, and &quot;punish&quot; passive investments and destructive behaviour.

However, the extremely wealthy aren&#039;t the only job creators. Small businesses are great job creators. Like all business, they depend on infrastructure and other public goods and services. Unlike big business, they don&#039;t have the clout to make sure that they get serviced, no matter what. If the service is in short supply, small business will loose out.

The middle class and small business owners simply can&#039;t afford to pay for public services both for the super wealthy and for themselves. The middle class and small business (the biggest job creators) are subsidizing the super wealthy, providing more than they receive, and receiving less than they need. This isn&#039;t new, it&#039;s just more visible in bad times.

So, the question becomes: What creates more jobs, tax cuts for the wealthy, or having the wealthy pay their fair share, allowing the small businesses and regular people to get back on their feet, and stay on them? Choosing the poorer alternative will, for all practical purposes, kill jobs.

Global warming...

Never mind what the &quot;Liberals&quot; say. Instead, have a look at what the insurance companies say. They aren&#039;t annoyingly liberal, are they?

What they are, is a big industry that will be among the first and hardest hit during climate change. They have spent huge resources on research, analysis and risk assessment, and they are deeply worried. They have already detected shifts in the number, types and sizes of the damages and injuries in insurance claims, affirming pessimistic climate models and forecasts. As a statistical sample, insurance claims is huge and world wide, and would be stupid to ignore.

So, like I said: You don&#039;t trust the &quot;The Liberal Elite&quot;? Fine. Trust the free market experts on comprehensive real world risk assessment. Or, perhaps... Does this mean that The Free Market has become &quot;Liberal Elite&quot;, and thus no longer can be trusted by you and your like?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether tax cuts for the wealthy create jobs, depends entirely on how the tax cuts are structured. High taxes for the wealthy can also create jobs, again depending on the structure. The key is to &#8220;reward&#8221; job creation, and &#8220;punish&#8221; passive investments and destructive behaviour.</p>
<p>However, the extremely wealthy aren&#8217;t the only job creators. Small businesses are great job creators. Like all business, they depend on infrastructure and other public goods and services. Unlike big business, they don&#8217;t have the clout to make sure that they get serviced, no matter what. If the service is in short supply, small business will loose out.</p>
<p>The middle class and small business owners simply can&#8217;t afford to pay for public services both for the super wealthy and for themselves. The middle class and small business (the biggest job creators) are subsidizing the super wealthy, providing more than they receive, and receiving less than they need. This isn&#8217;t new, it&#8217;s just more visible in bad times.</p>
<p>So, the question becomes: What creates more jobs, tax cuts for the wealthy, or having the wealthy pay their fair share, allowing the small businesses and regular people to get back on their feet, and stay on them? Choosing the poorer alternative will, for all practical purposes, kill jobs.</p>
<p>Global warming&#8230;</p>
<p>Never mind what the &#8220;Liberals&#8221; say. Instead, have a look at what the insurance companies say. They aren&#8217;t annoyingly liberal, are they?</p>
<p>What they are, is a big industry that will be among the first and hardest hit during climate change. They have spent huge resources on research, analysis and risk assessment, and they are deeply worried. They have already detected shifts in the number, types and sizes of the damages and injuries in insurance claims, affirming pessimistic climate models and forecasts. As a statistical sample, insurance claims is huge and world wide, and would be stupid to ignore.</p>
<p>So, like I said: You don&#8217;t trust the &#8220;The Liberal Elite&#8221;? Fine. Trust the free market experts on comprehensive real world risk assessment. Or, perhaps&#8230; Does this mean that The Free Market has become &#8220;Liberal Elite&#8221;, and thus no longer can be trusted by you and your like?</p>
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		<title>By: Jensantanna</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Trashman057. Econ 101 doesn&#039;t consider history. Trickle down economics doesn&#039;t work and didn&#039;t pan out. My parents have it better than I ever will due to a union job, good wages, and opportunity. In the 50s and 60s, the wealthy paid more in taxes and the difference between top earners and bottom was much closer. Sure, you can argue that some people are so genius they deserve $10 mil salaries and million dollar bonuses, but they don&#039;t create jobs with that money - they sock it away, often outside the US.

Also, believe what you want about global warming - but if you don&#039;t think we should have policy around it and innovate around it - we&#039;ll be left in the dust (perhaps literally if you are wrong) while the rest of the world innovates, creates jobs and works for a cleaner local environment. What&#039;s wrong with clean energy? It is created at home, doesn&#039;t pollute, no war, no smog, new innovation. What the heck - who cares if there is human influence on the climate - let&#039;s just run with it and make cool stuff. Sheesh!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trashman057. Econ 101 doesn&#8217;t consider history. Trickle down economics doesn&#8217;t work and didn&#8217;t pan out. My parents have it better than I ever will due to a union job, good wages, and opportunity. In the 50s and 60s, the wealthy paid more in taxes and the difference between top earners and bottom was much closer. Sure, you can argue that some people are so genius they deserve $10 mil salaries and million dollar bonuses, but they don&#8217;t create jobs with that money &#8211; they sock it away, often outside the US.</p>
<p>Also, believe what you want about global warming &#8211; but if you don&#8217;t think we should have policy around it and innovate around it &#8211; we&#8217;ll be left in the dust (perhaps literally if you are wrong) while the rest of the world innovates, creates jobs and works for a cleaner local environment. What&#8217;s wrong with clean energy? It is created at home, doesn&#8217;t pollute, no war, no smog, new innovation. What the heck &#8211; who cares if there is human influence on the climate &#8211; let&#8217;s just run with it and make cool stuff. Sheesh!</p>
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