Usenext is usenet? Holy crap, people need to learn to read or think or something. Usenext is a crappy idea, that’s like saying AOL is the internet. Usenet’s something else, if you don’t know, go read a book or something and stop looking stupid.

The internet’s dead, enjoy your restricted media broadcast network with metered bandwidth plans so only the wealthy can afford to publish anything.

They advertise to agressive all over the net& making big $ with pirated stuff etc…

Keep it quiet and low.

And make no big bucks of it.

Like someone said the releases of scene crews were never supposed to go to p2p…yeah right! Who does believe such crap.

If usenet is going to die the stuff will be available somewhere else..it has ever been that way.[/quote]

you are stupid, i used to be heavily involved in the scene (i served coffee) and believe me we never wanted script kiddies getting ahold of our shit. never p2p’d never will

if it wasn’t for those folks who fill usenet you silly little script kiddies playing with torrents would have NOTHING

I have a request to the hackers and social engineers out there: Expose these people. Not the pig rich elite hiding in mansions. Their toadies and wage slaves. Publish names, addresses, photos, habits and clubs. The guy at the top is supported by those beneath him. Now, of course we won’t be violent or commit horrible ‘crimez’ against their toadies. Just tell them politely they are doing wrong, of course!

But, I somehow think the elegant mansion and gated community slush fund will only support the top guys and their smithers… Not the 10,000+ employees just doing their jobs but living in the real world with us.

This is how the RIAA and other organizations get their news out and influence consumers… http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f09_1198188234

Honestly, to hell with p2p and torrents. They have drawn a crowd to the ‘scene’ that need not even own a computer. Go back to your consoles and your word processors. We don’t want you on our internet.

- GEEK

NNTP is not a P2P system, nor is it specifically for any purpose other than communication. It’s system of operation is more similar to DNS than anything else with files being uploaded to one server being transferred to others higher up on it’s provision, and slowly arrives at other servers. I still remember when one of the larger usages of NNTP was for porn sharing, however the huge amount of spam on most groups tends to make it a lousy way to get anything these days.

Get back at the RIAA !!!

http://www.huge.nl

Bulls—. Not to you, but the industry. When I was in high school eleven years ago, MP3 was basically still unheard of in the common world. It was just coming around, and few used it. CDs then cost $17. Then the whole Napster a few years later thing and like you point out the RIAA claimed that CDs cost so much because of illegal MP3 downloading. If at that time you went to a record store or major chain a CD was… drumroll… $17. Now go to a major chain and a CD will run you $15 in most cases.

I call their argument bunk.

Most markets I have been to sell pirated films for around a fiver a piece and make a huge profit on that i guess… So instead of charging over the odds for a dvd , if Industries priced the movies at a reasonable price …people would buy them rather than the copy???
I know myself if i was offered a pirate cd for 4 quid and i could buy the original for say 6 or 7 quid, I would buy the Original…. Music and movie Industries are always saying that the reason they have to charge such prices is because of the amount of money they lose in piracy……So if piracy came to a stand still and nobody was doing it … Would they lower the price of their products ..mmmmmmm I think not . They use piracy as an excuse to keep their prices so high.

Rant Over…….

Looks like we will all have to give to give out our credit card just to look at porn not to mention Big Brother will know you like to look at porn.

Welcome to the Police State!

The reason I mention this, is that there’s now a ton of people with WIFI sharing Internet access, but it would be neat to see a distributed BBS network using a combination of WIFI, LANs, and the Internet. Add signatures, encryption, and Freenet/TOR/Onion/I2P/etc. support, and something like VPNs and you may have a winner! I see it being possible that soon, you’ll see people not even using an ISP to access files. This would be cool. :)

i guess some thing has to be done that makes all parties happy but it seems so not in favour towards the artist or the listener

but really if u have downloaded gigs of songs etc , like do u really listen to 100+ hrs of music a day,
option deleat songs u dont use and pay some royalties say like 5 cents to artist and 2 cents to label.

sure prices would vary for latest hits etc

sure apple have a use pay model which is reasonable

more options for paying like who would give there visa number over the net i wouldnt.

Most major record companies’ standard contracts put the artist’s CD cut at 10-15%. Mega-artists with clout can get 30% or more. Problem is, of course that all production costs are born by the artist.

Big arists make so much money that they don’t care they’re geting screwed by the record label. Most mid level bands spend their entire contract in debt to their label.

The only way out of that hole is to sell more CDs. It sucks.

The best way to support a band you like is to buy their CDs. If they are available online for free, the CDs become virtually worthless.

And BTW…the standard songwriter royalty is 8 cents per CD pressed. And we split that with the publisher. And if there’s another co-writer or two, we spilit our share with them, too.

And the RIAA suing ISP’s and p2p sights is retarded. In the same retarded analogy they are making, I could submit that they are the cause of thug music and promoting a lifestyle that is ultimately causing the shortened lives of children, promoting gang life, and music levels far above appropriate decibel levels that have led to acute and massive loss of hearing.

In a world where you can TIVO or record a VHS of your favorite show, do they want to collect royalties for this as well? After all, I don’t know of any show that doesn’t have a musical opening.

BTW…I’m no fan of the RIAA. At all. They’ve been stealing from and abusing artists forever. Prison rape of a pedophile might be poetic justice, but it’s still wrong as well.

As a non-performing songwriter, I feel the artists’ pain. You work for years to build a catalog so you can feed yourself and your family thru CD sales. Then all of a sudden, the technology comes along that lets anyone anonymously copy your work and enjoy it on demand without having to pay for it. Wonderful. So you bone with impunity the artists whose work you love.

NEW Game Idea TiTle

And if any u didnt know the Game industry owns the film and music industry(so they wanna fuken play hey)lol u wonna own our nets.

Hell Gammer Camp V’S The RIAA

This can be done with either say a

Half life mod
Counter strike mod
Bf 2142 Mod
Crysis mod
Hell why not mix the lot together

now think of some of the scenarios

1. u and ur team storm the riaa headquarters for a friendly chat after camp and im sure these little puffs will know who’s warezin the boots, heh cause in our midst there is some true esplanage they will never recover from, lol im sure some of u are already in, so there all sitting there in there nice little suits and really wtf would be going through there heads lol we shoulda bought gammer shares. heheheheh

On another subject.
Even though I’ve got to say most posters here are right about usenet they are sadly mistaken about BT.
I’ve been on usenet for ages but I don’t want to life without BT. Get yourself some decent tracker invites!

Its amazing how most ppl seem to stick with ‘what works for them’ they don’t even care to look into another direction – if it’s only to see whats going on. And that seems to be true for both bt and usenet users.

The problem with this lawsuit is that if they win, it could set a precedent that would make it easiest to sue the next Usenet provider. If that happens, NSPs will start dropping the binary groups rather than risk being sued.

In the past, I would have said that Usenet.com was safe due to their Common Carrier Status. Unfortunately, it seems that Copyright mania is sweeping through the legal system and judges seem happy to ignore established laws in their quest to help the RIAA/MPAA stamp out anything they don’t agree with. :(

You pay for your web browsing, right? So why is it wrong to charge for nntp? What gives people the right to expect to get everything for free? Where does this sense of entitlement come from?

People need to get their facts before they just blurt out stupidity.

And usually, you get nntp along with your internet access. Most people are way to dumb to even know that.

Every protocol has its pros and cons when it comes to warez, music, movies, etc. So just use the one you like and leave the others alone.

So you’re OK with just stealing it, you just don’t want to pay for stolen goods is that what you’re saying?[/quote]

I am saying that if people choose to share what they legally obtained and share it with me, and I share mine, then thats cool. Thats what P2P is baby! Yeah! And its sweeeeeet! If the GREEEDY Lawyers and CORRUPT politicians don’t like it they can kiss my A$$! Because we the people don’t have a problem with file sharing. I refuse to participate in selling ‘shared’ files. When I share and take its from my heart. Since Corporate america has no heart, only $$$ they cannot understand.

when is the courts going to say to the RIAA “Stop Wasteing the Courts time with this Bullshit”???

I have been getting my content through mail in about 3 days. I pay $25 and then I get 100G’s of data, whatever I may choose. This method takes away from the **AA’s, your isp and others.

We have all become so dependent on the Internet that we forgot there is a postal service out there.

Are any of you saying that you wouldn’t invest $25 per 100G’s worth of files? I’ve been doing it for years.

Stop following all the traditional downloading…. period. It’s worth every penny to pay $25 and get 100′s of movies in a few days top. I still download, but my source have everything a person wants all for a small fee.

Also, if the **AA’s and the anti-piracy groups are such a deterrent for p2p, then why is it that there are millions of people doing it as we speak, but at most they only come up with 100 or so cases per year, if that….. yet they still don’t win. And we’re not talking about those that settled out of court.

The whole **AA’s and their crony groups are all a bunch of jokes.

Let’s see them hassle the postal services. They CAN’T monitor the whole world, as like the US Government wants to do.

As long as people file share, and do it often, they will eventually bankrupt those major corporations and then they will dismantle the **AA’s… all we have to do is keep file sharing. If you have to do it though the regular mail, do it.

Don’t enlighten the clueless. Let them stay on P2P where it takes days to suck down one crappy file while I suck down warez, entire DVD’s and whatever, at 15 Mbps (that 1.8 megaBYTES a second for the uninformed) straight from my ISP Verizon, and never wait for a “seeder.”

The RIAA is smart to take on USENET.com for their statements, but I don’t think they will have much luck attacking the NNTP protocol. There is just too much data for ISP’s and server operators to filter, and they would be taking on some enormous (phone company) ISP’s.[/quote]
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ROFL that was hilarious! Here you are trying too sound leet and smart and end up looking like a total idiot.

Days to download something? And 1.8 being faster? lol.

On zero day private trackers i’m downloading at the same time you are and half the time faster.

I can see why the MPAA and RIAA would be upset: here we have bozos like this openly hawking and advertising WAREZ for sale, GREEDY stupid morons…..GEE who do you think called attention to usenet…let me think…

dont download anything related to mpaa/riaa.

problem solved.

So you’re OK with just stealing it, you just don’t want to pay for stolen goods is that what you’re saying?

Google a bit and get your facts straight before you start spouting off about topics you know nothing about people.

I am happy to pay Giganews for that and it very easy a LOT faster than trying to get through BT. Stick to BT if you want while rest of us get watch stuff in minutes rather than hrs or days.

I would think tens of thousands of pissed off people standing outside the RIAA offices holding Anti-RIAA posters, chanting “Down with the RIAA” or “F**k you greedy bastard RIAA pieces of s**t”, would grab all of the headlines. It’s time for the “eCommunity” to become a community of presence on the streets.

We can take action before it’s too late. Are you up for it? Or will you hide behind your computer and do nothing?

Long live usenet!!!