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		<title>By: SearchFreak</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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All my best, 


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<p>searchfreak at@ the very nice yahoo.com </p>
<p>All my best, </p>
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		<title>By: Online Global Week in Review 17 September 2010 from IP Think Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Online Global Week in Review 17 September 2010 from IP Think Tank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FIBER0PTIC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@74 Agree with you on the links.

Firefox apps has neat tool that will bypass those screens on a number of ddl sites.

As a webmaster of high traffic uncensored sites that allow users to post content this is next to impossible to filter and is direct conflict with freedom of information(link to source).
  Google was listed above and that would show the source and linked pages. What would services like TinyURL and Redirect scripts/hosts react to this.

If I link to a list on angelfire or a list on craigslist that has links on that page to copyrighted files. How deep would everyone involved be responsible.

I know how to beat this in court and what should be in a sites disclaimer but does not address the problem of who is responsible. and You cant just say whoever hosts the content is the guilty party, and to say who links to the content is guilty will not work due to the information on users may not be correct.

I do not collect detailed information on my users other than are you over 18 yes/no and is this content leagal to view in your area. If you say yes to both than username is created and you then enter a password for later use. I do not ask for email addresses or any other information. If you lose your password I can&#039;t help you due to no other information is saved (create a new account).

If I did collect this information requested by the courts, how would I be able to verify it, and how long must that information be saved?

Will a group be formed to police this who links to operation? who would pay for that? and the volume of NEW webpages created daily would flood anything created and give an instant backlog of work and the cost of all this back to you in the form of a tax bump.

It was asked how Bernie Madoff was able to steal so much for so long, I see this as just another way for big brother to step in and take payoffs from another source. Make it legal and uncensored to inform others of where information is located is the only solution.

If it is legal to post links to pages that have illegal content how will the face of the internet be changed from what we see today?

If it is illegal to post direct links...What if a pirated movie is split into 2 files, call it PartA and PartB. As a Webmaster I link to only PartA ONLY, Im not linking to movie at this point just 0&#039;s and 1&#039;s - Understanding the in WHOLE or in PART addition. 

Another situation: What if I only display part of the url/link. or as applied to torrents, How much of a movie needs to be located on my local drive to be classified as guilty? 100% 80% 5% 1%, JUST THE NAME typed in notepad could qualify.

For profit and non-profit websites that link to copyrighted content, are they different in the eyes of the law?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@74 Agree with you on the links.</p>
<p>Firefox apps has neat tool that will bypass those screens on a number of ddl sites.</p>
<p>As a webmaster of high traffic uncensored sites that allow users to post content this is next to impossible to filter and is direct conflict with freedom of information(link to source).<br />
  Google was listed above and that would show the source and linked pages. What would services like TinyURL and Redirect scripts/hosts react to this.</p>
<p>If I link to a list on angelfire or a list on craigslist that has links on that page to copyrighted files. How deep would everyone involved be responsible.</p>
<p>I know how to beat this in court and what should be in a sites disclaimer but does not address the problem of who is responsible. and You cant just say whoever hosts the content is the guilty party, and to say who links to the content is guilty will not work due to the information on users may not be correct.</p>
<p>I do not collect detailed information on my users other than are you over 18 yes/no and is this content leagal to view in your area. If you say yes to both than username is created and you then enter a password for later use. I do not ask for email addresses or any other information. If you lose your password I can&#8217;t help you due to no other information is saved (create a new account).</p>
<p>If I did collect this information requested by the courts, how would I be able to verify it, and how long must that information be saved?</p>
<p>Will a group be formed to police this who links to operation? who would pay for that? and the volume of NEW webpages created daily would flood anything created and give an instant backlog of work and the cost of all this back to you in the form of a tax bump.</p>
<p>It was asked how Bernie Madoff was able to steal so much for so long, I see this as just another way for big brother to step in and take payoffs from another source. Make it legal and uncensored to inform others of where information is located is the only solution.</p>
<p>If it is legal to post links to pages that have illegal content how will the face of the internet be changed from what we see today?</p>
<p>If it is illegal to post direct links&#8230;What if a pirated movie is split into 2 files, call it PartA and PartB. As a Webmaster I link to only PartA ONLY, Im not linking to movie at this point just 0&#8242;s and 1&#8242;s &#8211; Understanding the in WHOLE or in PART addition. </p>
<p>Another situation: What if I only display part of the url/link. or as applied to torrents, How much of a movie needs to be located on my local drive to be classified as guilty? 100% 80% 5% 1%, JUST THE NAME typed in notepad could qualify.</p>
<p>For profit and non-profit websites that link to copyrighted content, are they different in the eyes of the law?</p>
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		<title>By: Section8</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@62 lol@you. Trollface.jpg -_-

Ninja did not host their videos. They were hosted on megaupload. The javascript app that ninja had was a way to bypass megaupload&#039;s limit and pass the downloaded file into the divx viewer. Nothing was hosted by them at all. As far as viruses and stuff, there were the occasional rogue adds which were promptly taken care of by the ninja team. If you are stupid enough to not have a virus scanner, FOAD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@62 lol@you. Trollface.jpg -_-</p>
<p>Ninja did not host their videos. They were hosted on megaupload. The javascript app that ninja had was a way to bypass megaupload&#8217;s limit and pass the downloaded file into the divx viewer. Nothing was hosted by them at all. As far as viruses and stuff, there were the occasional rogue adds which were promptly taken care of by the ninja team. If you are stupid enough to not have a virus scanner, FOAD.</p>
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		<title>By: C64 FBR2001</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C64 FBR2001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Current TorrentFreak news includes:

Only 0.03% of torrent traffic is legal. I agree with TF, the sources need to be verified. We all know how to bend the truth.

TF reports that the Industry makes more today than the past.

Yesterday the internet had 22% more traffic than average... I find it amazing that a general Tuesday with no Holidays or Major event had a 22% jump in net traffic. Maybe everyone at the office had to watch a new porn movie come out? I want to remind you Google is smart, they know what the public wants more than anyone... they track us all for years... knowing our dirty secrets and things that we never want Mom to find out.. 

Facebook is 99% evil. Careful what you post - Facebook lets everyone have access to your information.

I say the topics just to share the thought... whats 20 years going to be like for education? 

Are they going to be like Craigslist and censor the adult section? btw Tks Craig for keeping CL for the most part free of ads and paid membership. Great business model.

Tks for letting me have a voice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Current TorrentFreak news includes:</p>
<p>Only 0.03% of torrent traffic is legal. I agree with TF, the sources need to be verified. We all know how to bend the truth.</p>
<p>TF reports that the Industry makes more today than the past.</p>
<p>Yesterday the internet had 22% more traffic than average&#8230; I find it amazing that a general Tuesday with no Holidays or Major event had a 22% jump in net traffic. Maybe everyone at the office had to watch a new porn movie come out? I want to remind you Google is smart, they know what the public wants more than anyone&#8230; they track us all for years&#8230; knowing our dirty secrets and things that we never want Mom to find out.. </p>
<p>Facebook is 99% evil. Careful what you post &#8211; Facebook lets everyone have access to your information.</p>
<p>I say the topics just to share the thought&#8230; whats 20 years going to be like for education? </p>
<p>Are they going to be like Craigslist and censor the adult section? btw Tks Craig for keeping CL for the most part free of ads and paid membership. Great business model.</p>
<p>Tks for letting me have a voice.</p>
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		<title>By: C64 FBR2001</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont want to go off topic but the comments that follow are only valid if both sides understand the true final goal and I really want to keep this short.

History: 
1984/85 Started with 300 baud on a Commodore c64.

Sysop of a very respected BBS ranked very high in the top 10 boards worldwide. Allowing access to &quot;0day Warez&quot;.

Never took membership fees, no donations, and I never sold anything (Warez or Advertisement space). My parents gave me a c64 for Xmas &amp; I paid for the rest with after school job.

The commodore 64 sold (I have to look number up) ___ Million Units over number of years.

300 baud translates to about 30 char per second(hella slow). At 1200/2400 baud I would start a full disk transfer before I went to school and when I get home it would be downloading.

Telephone calls cost $1.50 or $2.00 per min during primetime (1988-1991).

This is before the ISP area, Easylink, Sprint, Fido, Telnet, QuantiumLink, other CMD Line boring interfaces either all green or orange (termanals are just brutal vs. todays nice GUI).

Before Windows 3.10... DOS with 1DirPlus or PeachTree was the best we had.

I think that the wheel was invented at this time, it was just raw text with no google or yahoo to point you any direction.

I can add more but looking back as a true &quot;Elite/Hacker/Pirate&quot; from 25 years ago, Under 1000 friends built whats now known as the scene. 

I had well over 10 new games a day (Including demoscene. I could never afford all the software. (Truth be told I never played the games, just look at the Crack/Intro page). But that said the good games, I left on the bbs longer. I was kinda like a CLUB PROMOTER where whatever I liked I share with others (Giving Free Advertiesment for the Company).

If the Commodore 64 did not sell so many units and have so many games (content) then many would have waited to get a 486, Mine was a gateway2000 that cost over $8,000 and included a 2gb drive and maybe 8mb of memory. My 25&quot; nec dual monitors cost $8,000 each. and I still have them because they cost so much at the time.

Hardware for c64 was cheap. Thus todays hardware is cheap and look at the kids avg age today! Want your PC fixed? goto a 4 year old, kids are smart! 

Kids have better access and better tools. I would like to think that what we did 25 years ago was the building blocks of todays generation. And I have to tell ya, when I am 60+ years old those kids are going to be running our legal system. I hope they understand free information and the rights of the content creators equal.

We have bigger problems and can not afford to make any mistakes on a global level here in the US and Overseas.

Health Care, Property Values, Madoff&#039;s, Katrina, Bird Flu, 911... You fill in the blanks.

Advertisement: Its powerful (watch MAD MEN on AMCTV.com) If you sell a product then how about you fund the content being created in return for having your product seen in the movie? I know Coke and Pepsi have done this many times, So I guess we should find a Meth dealer to help promote AMC&#039;s other show Breaking Bad.

I took my skills learned on the c64, under paid public school teachers, and the boy scouts where I was able share all types of information helping our younger generation.

Not all hacking is built around games or aimed at corperations. If you get nothing else out of this please take note that I am NOT a rare case.

Everyone I know take those Beta/VHS tapes and make a copy. We all push the right/wrong side of the needle from time to time. We all want the same thing in the end. Grow old with someone we love and to hope that the next generation has a better quality of life than we did.

Stay healthy, Be nice to others... Remember that all can be taken away multiple ways listed above and not excluding the laws currently on the books and those about to be passed.

I own over 4,700 domains at this time. Some are membership sites that are clean of all banners/ads, and also have free sites that offer spots for advertisement.

I give users the choice - Its all free if you want to take the time and click around banners or if your commercial free uncensored access become a member. *** Do you know the cost of Domain names when I started PER YEAR via Internic... and my HOSTING/SERVER cost in the early 90&#039;s... Not cheap it was hard to offer free, today because of so many users/volume, everyone gets cheaper everything... Quality of Life.

History lesson over, I hope that my view will help all of us understand and create better future laws. 

Tks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont want to go off topic but the comments that follow are only valid if both sides understand the true final goal and I really want to keep this short.</p>
<p>History:<br />
1984/85 Started with 300 baud on a Commodore c64.</p>
<p>Sysop of a very respected BBS ranked very high in the top 10 boards worldwide. Allowing access to &#8220;0day Warez&#8221;.</p>
<p>Never took membership fees, no donations, and I never sold anything (Warez or Advertisement space). My parents gave me a c64 for Xmas &amp; I paid for the rest with after school job.</p>
<p>The commodore 64 sold (I have to look number up) ___ Million Units over number of years.</p>
<p>300 baud translates to about 30 char per second(hella slow). At 1200/2400 baud I would start a full disk transfer before I went to school and when I get home it would be downloading.</p>
<p>Telephone calls cost $1.50 or $2.00 per min during primetime (1988-1991).</p>
<p>This is before the ISP area, Easylink, Sprint, Fido, Telnet, QuantiumLink, other CMD Line boring interfaces either all green or orange (termanals are just brutal vs. todays nice GUI).</p>
<p>Before Windows 3.10&#8230; DOS with 1DirPlus or PeachTree was the best we had.</p>
<p>I think that the wheel was invented at this time, it was just raw text with no google or yahoo to point you any direction.</p>
<p>I can add more but looking back as a true &#8220;Elite/Hacker/Pirate&#8221; from 25 years ago, Under 1000 friends built whats now known as the scene. </p>
<p>I had well over 10 new games a day (Including demoscene. I could never afford all the software. (Truth be told I never played the games, just look at the Crack/Intro page). But that said the good games, I left on the bbs longer. I was kinda like a CLUB PROMOTER where whatever I liked I share with others (Giving Free Advertiesment for the Company).</p>
<p>If the Commodore 64 did not sell so many units and have so many games (content) then many would have waited to get a 486, Mine was a gateway2000 that cost over $8,000 and included a 2gb drive and maybe 8mb of memory. My 25&#8243; nec dual monitors cost $8,000 each. and I still have them because they cost so much at the time.</p>
<p>Hardware for c64 was cheap. Thus todays hardware is cheap and look at the kids avg age today! Want your PC fixed? goto a 4 year old, kids are smart! </p>
<p>Kids have better access and better tools. I would like to think that what we did 25 years ago was the building blocks of todays generation. And I have to tell ya, when I am 60+ years old those kids are going to be running our legal system. I hope they understand free information and the rights of the content creators equal.</p>
<p>We have bigger problems and can not afford to make any mistakes on a global level here in the US and Overseas.</p>
<p>Health Care, Property Values, Madoff&#8217;s, Katrina, Bird Flu, 911&#8230; You fill in the blanks.</p>
<p>Advertisement: Its powerful (watch MAD MEN on AMCTV.com) If you sell a product then how about you fund the content being created in return for having your product seen in the movie? I know Coke and Pepsi have done this many times, So I guess we should find a Meth dealer to help promote AMC&#8217;s other show Breaking Bad.</p>
<p>I took my skills learned on the c64, under paid public school teachers, and the boy scouts where I was able share all types of information helping our younger generation.</p>
<p>Not all hacking is built around games or aimed at corperations. If you get nothing else out of this please take note that I am NOT a rare case.</p>
<p>Everyone I know take those Beta/VHS tapes and make a copy. We all push the right/wrong side of the needle from time to time. We all want the same thing in the end. Grow old with someone we love and to hope that the next generation has a better quality of life than we did.</p>
<p>Stay healthy, Be nice to others&#8230; Remember that all can be taken away multiple ways listed above and not excluding the laws currently on the books and those about to be passed.</p>
<p>I own over 4,700 domains at this time. Some are membership sites that are clean of all banners/ads, and also have free sites that offer spots for advertisement.</p>
<p>I give users the choice &#8211; Its all free if you want to take the time and click around banners or if your commercial free uncensored access become a member. *** Do you know the cost of Domain names when I started PER YEAR via Internic&#8230; and my HOSTING/SERVER cost in the early 90&#8242;s&#8230; Not cheap it was hard to offer free, today because of so many users/volume, everyone gets cheaper everything&#8230; Quality of Life.</p>
<p>History lesson over, I hope that my view will help all of us understand and create better future laws. </p>
<p>Tks</p>
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		<title>By: bo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[icefilms down for anyone else?]]></description>
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		<title>By: DannyBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DannyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@21 SearchFreek well said, that&#039;s all these parasites do is inhibit innovation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21 SearchFreek well said, that&#8217;s all these parasites do is inhibit innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hou tim kut, gwn opzouten naar de kut americaans mafiaa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hou tim kut, gwn opzouten naar de kut americaans mafiaa</p>
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		<title>By: megahertz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[megahertz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ICE won&#039;t enforce the immigration laws of the U.S. because this would adversely affect the commercial interests that hire these illegals,and here still they are not serving the interests of the citizens that pay their salaries
NOVMEBER CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ICE won&#8217;t enforce the immigration laws of the U.S. because this would adversely affect the commercial interests that hire these illegals,and here still they are not serving the interests of the citizens that pay their salaries<br />
NOVMEBER CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH!</p>
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