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Thoughts on IP Reforms and Best Practices for Creators

Filmmaker Kirby Ferguson recently finished Everything is a Remix, a four-part video series illustrating the interconnectedness of our creations and how current laws and norms miss this essential truth. Some viewers protested that the series ended without offering much in the way of prescriptive ideas. Here, he takes up that challenge, offering his thoughts on intellectual property reforms and best practices with the interests of remixers and creators in mind.

I recently completed a four-part videos series called Everything is a Remix and some of the series’ fans were disappointed that it closed without giving specific directions on what we can all do. It’s a common final act in documentaries and expecting that kind of closure is understandable, but there’s a couple reasons I didn’t go there.

First and foremost is that I was trying to provide my viewers with history and context. I wanted to inform their positions and decisions, rather than hand them a ready-made set. Secondly, it just seemed like a really uncinematic way to close the series, almost like a premature credit roll. I find the topic ill-suited to an audio-visual treatment.

A much better way to discuss it is right here in good old-fashioned text. So consider this an addendum to Everything is a Remix, a brief overview of what we can do and what we should push for. Some of these are attainable, some probably aren’t, and they’re all offered with a dose of humility. This is pure opinion, a discussion piece, not a manifesto. It’s food for thought from someone who spent a year-and-a-half living in this topic, both as my subject and as my creative technique.

This was written fairly swiftly, so if there are any factual errors or poor arguments, I would appreciate your help in correcting or improving them.

Copyright Classic

The hard truth is that most creations are worthless immediately. Most books, films, albums, computer applications, or whatever else are met with not just indifference but disuse. They basically aren’t read, aren’t viewed, aren’t used. Of the lucky ones that find a modest audience, almost all of those fall into obscurity within a few decades. Only a slim minority of works have commercial value after that and current copyright legislation is clearly written for this tiny group. Copyleft activists sometimes refer to this segment as the “lottery winners.”

Prior to 1976 the American copyright term was 28 years with the option to renew for another 28. Two big changes happened after that. Firstly, the term was dramatically extended to lifetime plus 70 years. Secondly, the option to renew was removed, automatically granting all rights holders the maximum term. Neither of these changes had any benefit to anyone but the lottery winners.

Lifetime plus 70 years is a wildly excessive copyright duration for almost all creations. According to Laurence Lessig, 85 percent of copyright owners failed to renew their copyright after 28 years. That means for 85 percent of them, their creation had little or no commercial value by then – 28 years of protection was plenty.

If I could wave a magic wand, I would wind copyright back to its pre-1976 state: 28 years of protection, with the option for a 28-year renewal. This would put the majority of works into the public domain in 28 years. Those who renew would get 56 years of copyright protection, probably enough to last a lifetime. If this system was in effect now, a vast amount of 20th century material would be ours to use and share freely. Just imagine what Project Gutenberg, Archive.org, YouTube or Google Books would be in this world. They’d be resources unlike anything we’ve ever seen.

The sad reality is that a reduction in the length of copyright’s duration seems enormously unlikely. A more winnable battle will be defeating another extension come 2023, at which point there will undoubtedly be another lobbying effort by the ever-dwindling segment of lottery winners.

If You’re American, Use Your Fair Use

Fair use is a limitation on US copyright protection that allows works to be re-used for purposes like commentary, criticism, and education. Copyleft activists tend to denigrate fair use because it doesn’t prevent anyone from clobbering you with a massive lawsuit. This is unfortunately true. Even with a solid fair use defense, you can get dragged into court and even if you win the case, your legal defense might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and the emotional toll will be massive.

So the boundaries of fair use need clarification, but the fact remains that fair use is employed reliably and without incident countless times every day. Watch a newscast, a documentary or The Daily Show and you’ll see fair use at work throughout. The high-profile lawsuits we hear about are the exceptions and they over-shadow just how effective and powerful fair use is. (And let’s not forget that should you employ fair use and find yourself in a lawsuit, there are now a variety of public interest organizations that can provide pro bono legal defense.)

The various codes of best practices that have emerged in recent years are a demonstration of how powerful fair use can be when adopted by a community. A superb and under-appreciated resource here is Patricia Aufderheide and Peter Jaszi’s Reclaiming Fair Use, which also happens to be an excellent short history of the copyleft movement.

For those of you outside US and thus without fair use, well, you have the benefit of living in a much less litigious culture.

De Minimis Definitions Needed

This is an example of how fair use needs stronger boundaries. In copyright law “de minimis” refers to uses that are too small to be considered infringing – they would be considered fair use. However, the bizarre Bridgeport Music, Inc. v. Dimension Films suit made it unclear if de minimis even exists anymore. In this losing case a two-second snippet of Funkadelic was unrecognizably used in “100 Miles and Runnin’” by NWA. (And the defendant wasn’t even NWA or their record company, but a film distributor that happened to use the song in a film.) If any case is a signpost for the era of IP dystopia, this is it. Every re-use of even the tiniest fragment of published work now seems vulnerable.

We need some distinct thresholds below which copyright protection doesn’t apply. Maybe it’s two seconds of recorded music. Maybe its five seconds of video footage. These are arbitrary, but whatever these standards are, they’ll make more sense than copyright protection covering subliminal-scale slices of media.

Abolish Software and Business Method Patents

I’m not going to go deep into patents because it’s a complicated realm that incorporates vastly different industries. Real patent reform would need to address this disparity. A patent for a drug that cost a billions dollars to bring to market should be treated differently from a patent for a novelty invention created in a couple weeks by one guy.

What can be stated simply is that patents for software and business methods (which are mostly software) have done nothing to incentivize innovation and plenty to de-incentivize it. We’ve seen a massive arms race of patent holdings in the smart computing realm, an untold number of small companies being exploited by trolls, and the unabashed weaponization of these instruments. It’s so abundantly clear that software patents do not “promote the progress of useful arts,” that the most sensible route isn’t reform but abolition.

About The Author

Kirby Ferguson is a freelance filmmaker, writer and speaker in New York City and the creator of Everything is a Remix. He is currently running a KickStarter campaign for a free and open political series called This is Not a Conspiracy Theory.

Everything is a Remix Part 4 from Kirby Ferguson on Vimeo.

The other three episodes of Everything Is a Remix can be found here.

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  • Guest

    Everything is a remix and copying is not theft.

    • Mwhahaha

      Copying is theft if you copy a burglar.

      (I’ll get my coat)

    • Mwhahaha

      Copying is theft if you copy a burglar.

      (I’ll get my coat)

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  • kenkus

    Abolition is the answer for all IP protection. Everything should be in public domain by default, not the other way around.

    • http://joshesforchange.wordpress.com/ Josh C

      Copyright, in some form, should exist. As an indie musician, I’m more likely to earn more money from performances, but it’d still be nice to get money from something that I spent my time on.

      • Hash

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        paste a link to your “donate” page

        see what happens

      • Anonymous

        I agree that there should be some form of copyright.
        but it should be to stop profiting from someone else’s work, so mostly for largescale operations like music studios copying someone else’s music and selling it on a compilation without permission.

        but for private use copying/sharing should always be fair use and allowed.

      • Rohe

        If copyright is gone, everything image on flickr, the linux kernel and all the backlog of film and music is fair game. Those who have the ability to monetize win. The rest? Good question.

      • Louigi Verona

        Saying something should exist simply because you want to take advantage of it is not a good reason. Placing any law that limits people’s freedom can add gains to certain group of people. It does not follow that the want of said group of people to earn money is enough to justify a particular law.
        Copyright cannot exist in “some form”. It will always tend to extend. In order to be defeated, it has to be abolished, without any traces.

        • O’lay Pirate

          I agree with some of your points but I’m not happy with copyright 100% going.

          It’s the indie artists I’m worried about, they simply can’t get lovely donations etc. They have to depend on few album sales (normally don’t offer merch etc so people can’t support them in that way) … it would be quite a pain in the ass if people were file sharing your songs when you’re an indie artists.

      • O’lay Pirate

        Indeed, my personal dream would be for a 5 year copyright (Well, 2 years would be better but 5 years would be seen favoured by the artists) over the files.

        I don’t want the copyright to restrict your files with DRM etc, also, it should protect artists from people reselling their work and other things like that but doesn’t make sites like grooveshark illegal. Streaming should be allowed even with copyright, I see streaming only as a promotional gain gain.

      • kenkus

        I see. But what I do not see is where do you need copyright to earn money. The only thing that should be illegal is making money directly by selling others’ works without permission or a deal. In some cases partial copyright makes it difficult for the content producers themselves to distribute their content. Of course if you feel you need copyright you should get one. I believe people will spend money on content they really value and that depends on quality, preferences, taste, etc. What content producers need are decent distribution platforms and promotion.

      • http://twitter.com/rottedcockmeat rottedcockmeat

        likewise, it would be nice to get money for knitting one-hundred quilts when I only made one.

    • Mwhahaha

      Kenkus, for everything to be free then you would need a world wide media licence paid for by everyone, such as the BBC in the UK, else no-one will have that much time to make everything.

      As Josh C states, it would be nice if creators got some money for their works, also he’s a musician which means he can tour. What can an author do? Give readings to 15 people? Sell the film rights? Except there are no films anymore because they cost money no one will every get back, because everything is free now.

      There needs, above all, to be sensible copyright reform and for media companies to charge justifiable amounts for their wares.

      There needs top level directors and actors and musicians to make a good wage, but not to the point that they earn more than the rest of us stuck together.

      Music promotion companies should be aimed at maximizing money for the artist, not for all the bottom feeding thrid parties.

      There should be no public performance royalties on music. I do wonder how much the artist sees out of that compared to how much is charged per song.

      Everything over 25 years should be fair game for free distribution.

      Every patent holder should be allowed to earn say £1 or 2 million from their work or in the case of drug companies a percentage amount of their cost (independently verified).

      All life saving drugs & inventions should be patent free for any country with a low GDP (to be voted on by the UN etc)

    • kyste

      Your opinion is worthless in the eyes of those that make the rules.

  • Anonymous

    nicely written, if a bit pessimistic (but that’s the way I feel about copyright reform as well)

    we’re all focusing too much to keep the MAFIAA out of our internet and lives, and forget the big picture over that.

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    The claim that drugs cost billions to develop and requires special monopoly rights is pretty much evidence that ‘the market’ is unable to deliver medical advancements (as with just about every other scientific advancement), and medical science research should be handled by public investment and academia.

    • Resin

      “should be handled by public investment and academia to solve real problems. ”

      You know, it’s funny. Here I was, thinking academia and public investment already existed for medicine. I mean, it’s not like the existence of pharmaceutical companies means that academics weren’t studying medicine and the public wasn’t donating money. I guess that shows what an idiot I was.

      Here’s a thought for you; It’s in society’s best interest to have as much medical development as possible. I think we can agree with that premise. I also have to note that making it more difficult for commercial developers (pharmaceutical companies) to make drugs will decrease total medical research. If you don’t understand why, then think about it like this; It’s not like if we make it hard for drug companies, then all of their money will simply be put into the hands of others who will keep doing the same research. If the market decides drugs are a bad investment, then they will take that research money, and put it into something else. Having the patent system guarantees that making a drug can be a profitable enterprise, and therefore increases the total money and manpower being used to create medicines.

      Knowing that, why should we limit medical patents? It seems like they’re really good for society. How do you justify saying they shouldn’t exist?

      • Anonymous

        Having a drug patent system is a market distorter which signals investors that they can have a sure thing by being granted a government enforced monopoly on drugs they develop. That means low drug accessibility and high cost to the public. Meanwhile, funding, resources, and personnel who can do research are being diverted into corporate mills where research is dictated by greedy, unethical, and petty people who don’t understand the science.

        Instead of wasting public resources and robbing peoples rights and property on policing the world to guarantee a privatised monopoly system it should be spent on research.

        • Resin

          You make problematic assumptions.

          “Instead of wasting public resources and robbing peoples rights and property on policing the world to guarantee a privatised monopoly system it should be spent on research.”

          You make the assumption that reducing the laws relating to patenting medicine will mean that the enforcement money will be transferred into research money. False. it is not part of the same system. Enforcement money will go back into the pool it came from and be used for different law-enforcement, not be diverted into additional research.

          “That means low drug accessibility and high cost to the public.”

          You haven’t addressed the central problem. The current system may result in high costs and low accessibility, but that’s still better than a non-existent drug. If the system promotes overall research (and you haven’t presented anything to show it hasn’t), then that’s better then having a system where research stagnates because it’s not profitable for anyone to pay researchers to find new drugs.

          “research is dictated by greedy, unethical, and petty people who don’t understand the science.”

          Show me evidence of this. Seriously, I want actual sources here. I know this seems like something you think is obvious, but I think it’s an overstated effect. I want to see some actual data before I accept that claim.

          Oh, and you can’t say money is diverted into companies if the companies spend more of their own money then they do public money. If the effect is a net gain, then it’s for the best.

        • Anonymous

          “You make problematic assumptions.”
          I’ve assumed nothing.

          “You make the assumption that reducing the laws relating to patenting medicine will mean that the enforcement money will be transferred into research money. False. it is not part of the same system. Enforcement money will go back into the pool it came from and be used for different law-enforcement, not be diverted into additional research.”
          How is that an assumption? When you reduce law enforcement burden, you can reduce the law enforcement budget by the same measure. Where the hell did you learn to budget?

          “You haven’t addressed the central problem. The current system may result in high costs and low accessibility, but that’s still better than a non-existent drug. If the system promotes overall research (and you haven’t presented anything to show it hasn’t), then that’s better then having a system where research stagnates because it’s not profitable for anyone to pay researchers to find new drugs.”
          Again, not an assumption. With law enforcement reduced funds are freed up to have medical science research go wherever the science leads, not based on what goes *kerching*. That means exploratory research is possible and thus more discoveries.

          “Show me evidence of this. Seriously, I want actual sources here. I know this seems like something you think is obvious, but I think it’s an overstated effect. I want to see some actual data before I accept that claim.”
          Ian Read, Pfizer’s CEO, doesn’t have as much as a single science degree, much less a medical doctorate.

        • Resin

          “When you reduce law enforcement burden, you can reduce the law enforcement budget by the same measure. ”

          You can, but you are assuming that this will happen. In reality, if the burden of law enforcement is decreased in one area, they will keep that money in the budget, and move it to a different area of law enforcement. Do you really think that law enforcement agencies who are always complaining of being underfunded will just give their money to research foundations? Do you think politicians will reduce their budget because they have one less responsibility?

          “Again, not an assumption. With law enforcement reduced funds are freed up to have medical science research go wherever the science leads, not based on what goes *kerching*. That means exploratory research is possible and thus more discoveries.”

          Again, you’re making the assumption that the money will be diverted. I understand that it theoretically could, but in the real world, it won’t be. In the real world, money that’s in the law enforcement budget won’t be transferred to research just because law enforcement has one fewer responsibility. In the real world, that money will simply be diverted to a different agency of law enforcement.

          Now do you understand the assumption you’ve been making this whole time? Do you understand that law enforcement and research have separate budgets, and reducing the burden on one won’t result in more money for the other?

          “Ian Read, Pfizer’s CEO, doesn’t have as much as a single science degree, much less a medical doctorate.”

          That doesn’t support your point at all. So he’s a businessman instead of a researcher. So fucking what? If a businessman keeps the researchers on track and actually manages to get enough money to keep the researchers funded, then I don’t care what he is.

          I asked for evidence of non-research personal either A. Distorting research; B. Demanding unethical practice or C. Halting proven research. If you really want to actually convince anyone, I’d also like evidence of it being a widespread problem, instead of simply having a few isolated incidents. You did not provide any of this, you just pointed to the existence of a businessman and used that as evidence that medical companies suck.

        • Anonymous

          @Resin: Law enforcement doesn’t dictate their budget any more than NASA, and NASA has been squeezed harshly ever since the end of Apollo. The assumptions are being made by you.

          Breakthrough scientific research is never ‘proven’ not even when it’s complete, that’s an oxymoron. Ethically, there is no shortage of companies who’ve pushed dangerous drugs through the FDA’s fast track programme, because regardless of the risk it poses to the public, they have profits to make. That’s all business mentality, not science mentality, which is exactly why boards and investors are unqualified to act as stalwarts over science.

          Science should be left to scientists, and selling products should be left to business men.

        • Resin

          You did not read all my questions, did you? I asked not only if law enforcement agencies would willingly reduce their own budget, but if politicians would reduce their budget and give that money to research. Or did you just ignore that part because it breaks your assumption to pieces? I only ask because you have ignored that question for three posts now.

          Listen, if money is freed up from one law enforcement directive, then the agencies will simply reallocate that money, and no politicians will challenge them, because to do so would be to appear to be taking money away from a needy law enforcement agency. I know what you would like to happen, and it is a nice fantasy, but it is not grounded in reality.

          In addition, the amount of companies who push drugs through FDA is grossly overestimated. There are multiple steps demanding independent clinical trials, each with results that MUST be made available to anyone to asks. Learn about the system before you criticize.

          Another fun fact to chew on… Researchers are most often the ones who push for drug acceptance, not businessmen. The reason should be obvious… They spend over five years making a drug, they are not happy to be to,d it does not work. Businessmen get the job of telling them to end their research when they start advocating for a bad drug,

        • Anonymous

          @Resin: I see you completely ignored my evidence which counters your bare assertion that reduction of responsibility can’t mean a reduction in budget.

          Also, the drug companies pushing through a drug only needs to present home cooked trail statistics. There’s nothing independent about the process at all.

          And it’s also funny how rushed research happens in the private sector, not academia. Why? Because in reality, researchers aren’t profit motivated, businessmen are. In academia, delivering faulty research is ruinous for the credibility of researchers who produce it. In business, the only consideration is if it’s marketable. Further, big pharma walls off their researchers from peer review, and isolates them from criticisms which forms a critical part of the scientific method.

          All you’re showing yourself to be is a patent troll. Even when an argument is shown to be wrong, you’re still yelling it blue in the face. More business mentality, even when your world view is shown to be wrong, ignore reality and carry on in wilful ignorance. Whatever it takes to make the $$$, right?

        • Resin

          I was going to make this longer, but the comment post failed, so you get the short version.

          First, I never said that law enforcement money can not be transferred to the research budget, I said it will not be. You have explained very well that research money could come from the law enforcement budget, but you have said nothing to the effect of how this would happen or why you think it would happen. Just because it is a possibility does not mean it will happen. I have said why I think it will not happen (the law enforcement agencies need money and the public has no support for taking money away from them, along with lack of will from politicians). Now, why do you think it will happen?

          Also, I was going to go on a rant for you about academia, bur for now, I will only advise you to look up “repression”. It was a psychological concept that was proved wrong. The psychologists who defended it stuck with it for years despite losing all battles of evidence, misread research, and accused the opposition of being child molesters. They remain very respected scientists to this day. If you think researchers lose face by being stubborn about being being wrong, even if their being wrong goes in the face of evidence or even causes harm… Dream on. Falsifying evidence is the only thing that gets researchers thrown out, and that is why studies are hosted by the FDA, (an argument here would be against general government corruption, but not against patents)

          In short, do not assume that researcher = pure and good. They very often want to be right more than they want the truth. Academics are human,
          driven by the same basic motivations as those businessmen.

          Of course, i would still trust a researcher over a businessmen. But then, I do not trust either of them very much.

          Let me explain why I think medical patents are a good idea, even though I think copyright is not. Let us have a hypothetical scenario where the
          government and academia put one hundred billion dollars into research. You also have businesses, whom take twenty billion in government money and put up eighty billion dollars of their own for research. They need patents to survive as researchers, we both know that. What I do not understand is why yo think that not having that additional eighty billion dollars is the desired scenario. It means more overall research, from two venues, so what is bad? What is more desirable about the other scenario? If having patents means more research and therefore more medicines made faster, then why not have them?

          I think that is a rather fair assessment of the scenario. I doubt you will agree, but I am genuinely interested in hearing what problems you think there are with my assessment. Until next time…

        • Resin

          When I said studies hosted by the FDA, I meant drug approval studies. Unclear.

        • Anonymous

          @Resin: I’m reasonably sure because it isn’t needed, and politicians are perfectly fine with giving departments less money when they don’t need it. You’re adamant that it wont happen because you have a crystal ball. And I doubt law enforcement has as much public support as you’d imagine. How many grumble about the TSA molesting them and their kids? How many grumble because they had their right to protest usurped? How many grumble because they were tased or beaten despite not presenting a threat? How many grumble because their race is subject to disproportionate assault, searches, arrests, and prosecutions? Only wealthy white people love the cops, because they keep the serfs in line. You could use that as a reason why the enforcement budget wont be reduced, but really, wealthy people are generally intelligent and educated enough to know that a reduction of law enforcement responsibilities can safely mean an equal reduction in law enforcement budget without impacting the services which protects them. Frankly, they’d be more worried about how the scrapping of the patent system is going to effect their investments.

          As for repression… lol.. you would pick a pseudo-science wouldn’t you? Look, the point of science is not to be never wrong, that’s an absolute, the point is to come up with the best possible explanation of an observed phenomena. Take Newton, while his explanation for gravity wasn’t an exactly accurate description of the nature of gravity, it was, and still is sufficiently accurate for traversing the solar system, to the degree that NASA engineers will still use Newton’s equations over Einstein’s General Relativity where applicable. Why? Because Newtonian gravity is easier to work with. That’s the power of science, when new evidence or better arguments are presented, the scientific community accepts it, and our understanding of the universe improves, and that may or may not be incorporated into a product, but it can form the basis for new research which will turn into important new products. Falsifying evidence isn’t the only thing which will ruin a scientist’s career, ignoring evidence will have the same effect, ignoring other explanations which better fit the evidence because of personal bias, financial gain, and so on, will do it, too. And while scientists may be humans and have emotions, they don’t see the world the same as every other person, and they’re not motivated by the same things. And while the desire to ‘be right’ is there, intellectual honesty is far far far more commonplace among scientists than the rest of us (again, not dealing in absolutes like all scientists are 100% intellectually honest 100% of the time).

          As for drug patents, my problem with them is thus, 1) they’re anti-competitive, 2) the cost to the tax payer, 3) they undermine the scientific method, 4) corporate ethics are an oxymoron, 5) are only truly useful for the top drug corps., 6) clueless management interference, 7) parallel research can often take place, resulting in a waste of effort and resources (in academia, scientists working on the same problem regularly combines their efforts to solve it in a fraction of the time), 8) governments are compelled to introduce ever more draconian laws in an effort to quell ‘drug piracy’, like say, a shipment of generics from India en-route to Africa being seized by customs officials in relay ports which are not even the destination, 9) they’re not necessary, public research can do the job faster (cooperation vs competition), with proper checks, and have the freedom to take research where the evidence leads and finish it to it’s conclusion, irrespective of whether it’ll turn a profit, contrary to what investors demand. And 10) money not squandered on government-granted monopoly controls is money that can be put into open public research.

          Pretty much all the same core reasons why copyright is bad is the same as why patents (in general, as well as drugs) are bad. And irrespective of what you think your crystal ball tells you about how less drugs will be made available if the drug patent system is scrapped, the truth is you don’t know what public research will turn up when infused with ample cash and personnel. For all you know, they could come up with self-replicating medical nanobots which repairs all health problems.

        • Resin

          In a hurry right now. Will respond to the rest later, I promise. Just want to say this.

          Psychology is a pseudo science? Really? How so? It follows systematic empiricism, it gets repeatable results, it relies on experimentation and manipulation, so how is ot a pseudo science? Does the study of brain-mind relations not exist because you say it doesn’t? did the cognitive revolution in the 1950s not happen? Have we not found the modal memory system, the effects of hormones on behavior, the serial position curve, the laws of graded perception?

          You have a valid opinion on medical patents, and I will answer those, but you are provably wrong about psychology, and it is clear you know nothing about what you are talking about. Pick up a research psychology journal and educate thyself. I recommend “professional psychology: research and practice”. They publish articles about the science and statistics underpinning psychology. It has been around since the 1970s. First issue is probably online somewhere, if you care to google it.

          Seriously, just admit you do not know what you were talking about. Belike a scientist, and admit that you made up an answer because you did not know the real one. If i know that you will just make up answers, then that undermines any confidence I have that your complaints against medical patents are based on what happens in the real world. Man up.

        • Anonymous

          @Resin: It’s a pseudo-science because it assumes that looking at what people do gives knowledge of what they think and how they think and how they will continue to behave in the future. You can’t, that’s impossible, each human, despite having roughly similar DNA to each other, is a discrete phenomena in their own right. You can’t come up with inviolable natural laws of human behaviour. It’s all guess work abusing statistics to smother out unfortunate noise to give it an air of authority. Just like with voodoonomics.

        • Resin

          “You can’t come up with involiable laws of human behavior.”

          To put it simply, yes we can. If I ask you to remember a list of objects, you and every other person on the planet (barring brain damage) will remember more of the words at the beginning and end of the list than at the beginning. That is the primacy and recency effect of the serial position curve. Every human being follows it unless they have suffered trauma to their memory system.

          If I damage wernicke’s area in your brain, you will begin to speak uncontrollably. You will not understand the words I say to you, and you will think you are speaking clearly, but you will actually speak nothing but gibberish. Lots of gibberish, but gibberish, but gibberish all the same. This is called Wermicke’s aphasia, and it was found, researched and documented by psychologists.

          That does not mean that all people are the same or behave in the same way; you can not find a single reputable psychologist who claims this.
          Seriously. Not a single one. I actually dare you to try. There is not anyone who claims that based on data.

          Let me explain something; real psychologists do not claim to be able to predict the way a human behave. This is exactly the same as a physicist saying he can not predict the movements of an atomic particle; we simply do not have the means to do so. It is possible, but just because it is outside of current technological ability to predict with perfect accuracy does not mean thateuther physics or psychology is a psuedoscience.

          I want you to approach this like a scientist. I want you to give me your definition of pseudo-science, I want you to tell me why psychology does not fit with that diefinition, and I want you to tell me exactly what data would be needed to falsify your hypothesis. After all, if it is impossible to falsify your belief, then you don’t have scientific knowledge, you have beliefs, and your beliefs say nothing about whether or not psychology is a pseudo science.

          Medical patent argument will resume tonight.

      • Mwhahaha

        Knowing that, why should we limit medical patents? It seems like they’re really good for society. How do you justify saying they shouldn’t exist?

        A – Pharma companies trying to stop 3rd world nations from using cheap replicas of AIDS medication to save lives.

        • Rohe

          We should be fair here. Everybody who know this topic tells you, that the incentive to sell a huge part of that products back to the industrial world is too good not to do it. Many drug companies would like to produce the products themselves (so limiting the amount of black market sales) – but the local government often don’t want that, because they are COUNTING on the black market sales because they are corrupt. There is much more shades of gray here than most people know.

        • Rohe

          Some facts and targets:
          http://www.avert.org/generic.htm
          http://www.avert.org/universal-access.htm

          The bigger problem isn’t access, its the fact that many people stop using the drugs regularly because they don’t think they have to take them every day.

        • Resin

          “A – Pharma companies trying to stop 3rd world nations from using cheap replicas of AIDS medication to save lives.”

          I know of the instance you’re referring to, and under proper patent law, the companies would be forced to either sell the medicine at low cost or allow other companies to do the same. The law says that if companies are restricting access to either high-need or low-means groups (not individuals, groups), then they can be legally required to provide the medicine.

          So, no, that’s not a reason for medical patents to not exist, it’s just a reason to make sure that the regulatory agencies are actually doing their job.

    • Mwhahaha

      aidanjt, I agree, but I’m not sure many people would appreciate the tax increase publicly owned pharma would cost.

      • Anonymous

        Well it wouldn’t be like the public would take over pharma industry. Just take up the important and expensive R&D workload. Companies could manufacture, distribute, and most importantly, compete, along whatever drug lines they like minus the R&D expense, or do R&D on lots of low cost research projects which wont kill the company if competitors replicate it. Whatever, it’s up to them what they do. They just don’t have their monopoly anymore.

        As for funding, there’s a whole heap of crony activities government pisses away tax payer money on which could get the axe. Further, pointing out the current untalked about crony/IP costs to the tax payer would go a long way in smoothing ruffled feathers. It wont shut up republicans who’s buddies are losing out on the sure thing, but they’d just find something else to harp about on Fox news anyway.. so no biggie.

        Hell, cut the military budget in half and you’d have all the cash you could ever need on science, R&D, NASA, etc, and go some way to cut back on the deficit at the same time.

    • Louigi Verona

      I don’t think your analysis is correct. The market is very able to deliver the best medicine. Corporatism is not. Do not confuse capitalism with corporatism, the latter possible thanks to powerful government.

      • Question

        All kind of form of capitalism ending up into corporatism – why ?
        Is simple all is based on money and greed , money makes the rules and laws not moral , not fair people – that makes businessmans to think and try to abuse to have more control , manipulation , to encrease sales to have more money ,with that money they bribe politicians to make some laws for their interests , that protection and corruption gives them more power , more power mean more control and manipulation and so on , the vicious circle is closed !
        If money is the ultimate value all people will run to get them more and more and many will be dominated by a primitive instinct – greed thats why they will sale their mother , will kill people will do everything to get the damn money
        capitalism is a jungle without laws in fact , where thrive and survive just people which dont have moral , which dont belive in rules , which think how to scam and trick others and get the pot , who manipulate and foolish others , who are ready to bribe and corrupt everyone to get more power, who are ready to sale everything !
        Remember just few words:
        ” If you wanna be rich,You got to be a bitch !
        “Everithing is for sale , including humans , every person have their own price ”
        “Dont ask me how i make the first million !”
        Nobody can be rich if is honest and fair , look at rich people – they are genius ? they have culture ? , they are fair and honest ? they have respect and help other people ? No , in genreal they dont have culture , moral or ethical , they dont care about others , they make delinquency ,they comit tax evasion, they profit by hard work of people , they become rich becouse make “first million” from tax evasion , sale drugs , weapons , becouse scam and people trafficking, prostitution etc , they escape becouse of bribe polictical corupted class , in fact that riches are the same or hand in hand with politicians becouse they look the same , they think the same and play the same dirty game
        Thats the truth , and i think everyone who think rational can see that !

        Capitalism is over , will be dead becouse is no based on develop science , on educate and elevate people , on moral values , on rational
        Capitalism is based on consumerism ,on manipulation ,on wasting resources, on destroy nature and humans , on money religion – all of that happen just becouse few greedy fats wants to be a master of puppets

        • Louigi Verona

          “All kind of form of capitalism ending up into corporatism – why ?”

          Simple – because of government intervention. Copyright is possible only because government is enforcing it. Corporation power is possible only inasmuch as the government support is involved.

          For instance, Microsoft as it is today is unthinkable without government involvement. Windows would not stand up to competition if not the copyright laws.

        • Corrupt

          Welcome to the truth of our nature.

          Sorry to say that much of what you were raised to believe in was a lie used to keep you down.

      • Anonymous

        Empty libertarian bare assertions. Corporatism became big because corporations were free to become big, government acts at the behest of corporations because they’re in control, they hold the purse strings, not the people/government. And your answer to steam corporatism is to remove more government protection and give corporations more power? Insane.

        • Louigi Verona

          @aidanjt: Why empty? They are very well backed up. I would suggest you to read a book by Hans-Hermann Hoppe “Theory of Socialism and Capitalism”, it is available online.

          “And your answer to steam corporatism is to remove more government protection and give corporations more power?”

          My answer is to remove government intervention. I believe that it will not give corporations more power, but on the contrary, remove it and leave them in the field of free competition. Nothing insane about that.

        • Anonymous

          “Why empty? They are very well backed up. I would suggest you to read a book by Hans-Hermann Hoppe “Theory of Socialism and Capitalism”, it is available online.”
          A book some dude wrote isn’t evidence of anything. I don’t read the Bible and suddenly believe in skyfairyisms. You need to apply critical thought to everything you read, most of all a bunch of pseudo-science which tells you to surrender your government and have your life usurped by corporations.

          “My answer is to remove government intervention. I believe that it will not give corporations more power, but on the contrary, remove it and leave them in the field of free competition. Nothing insane about that.”
          And by what magical mechanism do you think that will happen? Government is real entity which applies real force, it’s the only reason why slavery is disallowed, your right to free speech is guaranteed, you’re afforded due process, have a liveable wage, etc., etc.. Just how short is the American attention span anyway? Some corporate charlatan appeals to their wallet and they suspend all reason.

          And you still haven’t addressed how the market will deliver drugs without having government granted monopoly rights to them.

        • Louigi Verona

          @aidanjt Hoppe isn’t pseudoscience. His book presents a deductive argument for his case. You are free to apply your critical thinking to that and see if you can defeat his argument or if you agree with it.

        • Anonymous

          @Louigi Verona: A deductive argument can be true or false, it is not science. Economists frequently dress up their pseudo-science in the language of science, but it’s all a façade for those who don’t know any better. Bare assertions are worthless, arguments from authority are worthless. For a hypothesis to be valid it must be based on observation, have evidence, and it must stand up to rigorous scrutiny and retesting. When you start out with a premise derived from ‘I must be given more advantage to succeed’, that’s not science.

        • Louigi Verona

          @aidanjt If deductive argument is true, why retest it?

        • Anonymous

          @Louigi Verona: I’m just after telling you why. Reread what I said more carefully, please.

  • Anonymous

    It is good to see more Indie market news ahead of the BLACK MARCH boycott.

    I would not class a reduction in the term of copyright impossible but under 20 years would be very hard what with Hollywood’s corruption funding.

    So when copyright was 28+28 years 85% failed to renew. We can indeed imagine the huge Public Domain now.

    Instead Hollywood and US Congress have given us 15 new IP enforcement laws in the past 30 years. Laws for the sake of writing laws.

    The Public Domain now reminds me of a beaten and abused woman kept as a slave by copyright. All those 85% beaten, raped and kept as property with freedom denied.

    Then on the day freedom is won people can still cut off their own piece mixing it with their own creation and claiming property on it all.

    Then comes that dreaded copyright extension. Her freedom is lost and ordered back to her neglectful master.

    And all because Mickey fucking Mouse wants to keep his gigantic hard on.

    • Mwhahaha

      Perhaps, what with how easily records of sales can be kept now a days, all sales points could forward all media sales data to a central copyright place and after say 10 years if sales are in the bottom 10% then they become public domain.

      Obviously you could dick with the numbers however you wanted there. If this stuff *is* sat unread, then I’m imagine the authors would prefer the chance of it being read or seen.

      Interesting Q – Can you revoke your own copyright on something?
      Has anyone done this recently to allow for mass distribution?
      If not is there anyone we can convince to do it and see how it affects their success/career?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJ4XRIA3A3E6MYGK755EGWLN4Q Dani A

        I prefer to look at it, as giving back to the world. You receive your inspiration from the world, the people around you, the life you’ve lived. Eventually your creation must be released so others can use it as their own inspiration. So what if you can still milk it for more money, you should have spent that time creating new and better things, working on great works, and making the world just a little bit more interesting and better.

        If you didn’t that is your own damn problem, and I hope you die cold hungry and alone. :p
        There are too many leeches on the system, people who produce nothing and drain the economy off the top, turning money in to money and some how coasting on.

        So my personal standpoint is 15 years… maybe with another 15 year extention… but if you take more than 15 years to produce another viable work, you should probably find another job.

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  • identity

    Fuck the Law – The people that write it do so for their own interests.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    Software copyright and patents both have a damaging and chilling effect on legitimate activities at opposite ends of the product lifecycle.

    Software patents have been amassed by large corporations through anything from corporate buyouts to picking over the bones of liquidated companies. Their use is not only for patent trolls but in many cases to stiffle innovation from smaller startups by acting as a barrier to entry into a market.

    How often have we seen lawyers from large corporations doing a ‘patent dance’ like apair of alpha male peacocks and the end result rather than court is a cross licensing deal pooling patents and no money changes hands.

    As for copyright, aside from the immediate threat of piracy on release of a software product, copyright creates significant problems for the archive and maintenance of old software and games that have no real value other than to history.

    Many works have been orphaned by virtue of companies going out of business or the original developement company bought and merged so many times, the current rights holder either has no record or refuses to waive claim to it either on those grounds (no record the rights are theirs to waive) or has knowledge but refuses as a matter of policy

    There are some enlightened developers that appreciate the efforts enthusiasts are making and either provide unprotected versions of games or better still the source code. Even in suchcases where permission is granted but the program used protection, often the only useable versions are old pirated copies.

    Realistically, copyright on software considering the rate of tech advances should be much less than 28 years. After that length of time you could be hard pushed to find hardware capable of reading and running it.

    • Noone

      Private property.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJ4XRIA3A3E6MYGK755EGWLN4Q Dani A

      code does not need a patent or copyright… compiled software can be patented, and if some one tries to steal and re-sell your software, working similarly/looking similar.. then you can sue… but the code itself is just a blueprint, an assembly of nuts bolts cogs and widgets…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

    How about copyright belongs only to the creators. It cannot be passed on to a middleman such as a publisher or distributor? If a creator wants to hire a distributor thats fine, but they work for a fee.

    Copyright also dies with the creator. It cannot be passed on to his/her estate at death.

    Copyright should be for a maximum of 20 years, non renewable, EXCEPT for creative commons and similar copyleft licenses which would exist in perpetuity. This is to further ensure nobody can buy up a former CC work and copyright it.

    The public domain has been abused by Big Content in the past, so on the expiry of copyright, a work should be covered by a CC or similar license for evermore.

  • Byte

    “If I could wave a magic wand, I would wind copyright back to its pre-1976 state: 28 years of protection, with the option for a 28-year renewal. This would put the majority of works into the public domain in 28 years. ”

    No, it wouldn’t. That might have worked back then, in the old Typewriter and Snail Mail days. Today it would all be done automatically. For any copyright renewal system to work, whether this is after 10, 14, 20, or 28 years, there needs to be a mechanism in place that prevents frivolous renewals. The obvious one would be a fee, such that there needs to be a minimum ‘commercial value’ to legitimize the work not passing into the Public Domain. A fee of $100,000 in 2012 dollars for a movie sounds quite reasonable. As well, a copy of the work, stripped from any DRM and in a to-be-specified “open” format needs to be given in escrow. This guarantees that after the renewal is up, a proper copy of these “higher value” works will be available to the public.

    Other than that, 56 years is still very long. If we go by the convention that copyrights expire on January 1st of the following year, and the renewal being granted automatically as a courtesy for older works, this year we would have seen works up to and including December 31st, 1955 would be public domain. November of that year, 1955, saw the first-ever Billboard “Top 100″. For the year, Tutti-Frutti by Little Richard ended on top. Other hits are Why Do Fools Fall In Love, Folsom Prison Blues, Blue Velvet, etc. Most of this not even in stereo; the first mass-produced stereo record appeared in 1957 (with 1958 as the real start of stereo vinyls). So, with 28+28, even getting the first stereo recordings in the public domain would take years!

  • Markosy G

    Independent artists with their own (labels) website pages where put art for free and donation button or put art for low price is the future and the key

    I dont belive people which donwload for free are so bad ,i think they doing that becouse of huge costs , becouse livin in a poor country and dont have enough money to get original
    I dont belive if artists put their arts for free people will prefer to get unoriginal copy insted original , i dont belive they will not make donations , i think everyone have one or more $ and im shure people will appreciate that way and make donations , im shure artists will get more advertising and money in this way , more fans , more people will like them , i can bet that
    Already some open minded artists fired their label agency , copyright agencies etc and work as independent or make their own label where release their art , make their own sites where offer their art and posibility for donations , where they earn money from publicity ,adds , from sale online personalized things with their loggo name or photo printed Tshort , caps ,belts , posters etc they realize now get more money then in past and became more known , now have more fans and people who love them , who support them and pay tickets at live performances
    Is much easy , effective and constructive insted spending time money and effort to fight against copyright and enrich intermediaries – labels , lawyers , agencies ,and all of that “parsites” whos live and make profit becouse of artists work

    I doing that and works very well

    Think about this option , thats will be the future !

  • O’lay Pirate

    Very interesting video, congrats to the make, hope he’s successful with his work :)

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  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    “The sad reality is that a reduction in the length of copyright’s duration seems enormously unlikely. A more winnable battle will be defeating another extension come 2023″

    Why should we begin with these assumptions?

    Why shouldn’t we begin with the assumption that we can and should change copyright law by constitutional public referendum?

    The history of prohibition and the civil rights movement tells us that bad laws can be abolished constitutionally when enough people decide NOT to follow them.

    I would rather start the discussion by asking how one goes about organizing mass constitutional plebecites.

    The real sad reality is that the monopoly powers behind current copyright laws have NOT been held accountable. Hundreds of millions of citizens in the western democracies are adversely affected. That is the sad reality that needs to change.

  • Anon

    As history moves deeper into digital territory and an increasing number of concepts, products and merchandise moves to digital format, a new form of copyright that provides a legal control over ip will merge with our ideas about ownership of analog products and merchandise blurring any distinction between the two in order to facilitate fairness in creation, regardless of the format.

    That movement is already underway and began decades ago.

    Then, with the completion of that merging, all that remains is digital policing in the same sense that law enforcement defends and protects analog properties for their owners IRL. Pirates live in the wrong psychological space, believing that because at present they can copy digital files, they must be allowed to do so. Time is proving this faulty and on the wrong side of history, and because it is so self-serving, it is being discredited as small minded as well.

    Piracy was never the path, Piracy was always the problem to be solved and if you study the trends, you see the groundwork is being put into place towards this “solution” everyday. Pay, do without, use only the stuff that is lawfully free to share or create your own stuff and give it away if you wish. But copying files intended for sale will only result in lost rights and digital freedoms.

    Surveillance, apprehension and punishment delivered to pirates and their websites is just the icing on the cake.

    • MadAsASnake

      Surveillance and punishment are pretty oppressive. Got to be pretty sick minded people that see it as “icing on the cake”. Copyright infringement occurs for a variety of socio-economic reasons – not least that the incumbents in these industries have not embraced a technology that changes everything, particularly the ease with which information can be obtained. I remain astounded at how vehemently opposed these distribution companies are to distribution.

      • Anonymous

        You can’t reason with Anon, he always thinks piracy is a problem in search of a solution. It really isn’t. Sigh.

        • MadAsASnake

          Clearly. Maybe we should ship him to North Korea and where he can see how these ideas work from the other side…

        • Anon

          If I think piracy is a problem, I’m in good, accomplished company. Over 150 different global firms, the biggest names in entertainment, publishing, news reporting, even fashion publicly supported sopa, and will support the next sopa, too. It’s easy as a pirate to demand and take everything for free. The content creators and owners actually have skin in the game, real investment, and they see things a bit differently. “Change your business model” are words. Give them a model that works as well as the existing model and they’d beat a path to your door. Instead, the FBI is knocking your door down.

          One thing is clear.
          After at least 15 years and nearly a generation of free for all not one significant group of content creators in any industry has managed a way to accept piracy and still be comfortable with the effects. And the number of “successful” acts who embrace free can be placed in a thimble, and everyone in this discussion knows that. It’s one thing for pure market force to influence markets. That’s business, that’s life. Piracy is not business. It’s something else entirely for unlawful acts to be falsely presented as legitimate market forces. Government will listen when you come up with a way to remonetize piracy. Until then, all your freedoms will belong to us. Read your history and count on it until you overthrow the governments.

        • kenkus

          Anon,

          “Give them a model that works as well as the existing model” or rather give them a model that works way better than the existing model (that does not even work).

          Easy.

          The right product: the content that the consumer wants, in the form he/she wants it, with reasonable price (and preferred transaction method)
          in the right place: wherever the consumer is via the media he/she is comfortable with
          at the right time: immediately when the content is available.

          There is absolutely no need for the content to be free. Piracy is the symptom of content being unavailable (release windows, DRM, local laws, copyright, licenses, inconvenience, unreasonable pricing, etc.). Companies and content creators/distributors that understand this have fewer problems with piracy. How to handle piracy then… do nothing. Let it be. If people don’t value the content enough they will pirate it. But there is a possibility that some day they will turn to “fans”. And “fans” will pay for the content. It is a basic model that you distribute some of your products/services free and charge on others (not donations).

        • Anon

          @kenkus

          The basis of my original comment is that analog possession and control is a standard towards which digital products and distribution are migrating. Digital goods will one day have the same rights as analog goods because in a fair marketplace, they should. Pirates continue to believe, to their own disadvantage, they can successfully leverage more for themselves using unlawful methods. This is as pointless and self-destructive as it gets. Wonder where your online privacy is going?

          “The right product: the content that the consumer wants, in the form he/she wants it,”

          This will never happen. Some creators will provide formats for all, true, but others will provide in formats that work only with their own hardware or distribution portal, there is no basis in which pirates will get to use piracy to force the creators towards formats they dictate. Even NETFLIX is negotiating exclusives going forward. You will buy it as it is or do without, or face Kim Dotcom type consequences. Same as always. Works for us.

          with reasonable price (and preferred transaction method)

          Never happen. For one thing, only lawful competition justifiably forces price down in a fair marketplace, not “give it cheap or I’ll steal it.” This is one place where artists, creators, the industry and the fatcats agree: If they make it, they price it and you will pay what they ask or live without it. This is exactly the same in analog merchandise. You’ll never succeed in taking away the creators or their agents right to set the price of their products, because they know what they need and they know what their legal market will bear. Don’t like the price? Don’t buy it. But steal it or copy it and you’ll wind up on the losing end of law enforcement long before that ever happens.

          in the right place: wherever the consumer is via the media he/she is comfortable with

          This won’t happen either, especially when industry giants make both the hardware and license the digital files that play on that hardware. That’s like saying to Toyota “sell the car in the color I want or I’ll make a copy with my computer and you won’t get anything at all.” Yeah. Good luck with that. And you wonder why government is on industries side.

          at the right time: immediately when the content is available.”

          Absofuckinglutely not. Never.

          Product launches are artforms in and of themselves and marketing/pr is not going to be dismantled just because you want what you want when you want it like some spoiled little kid. How entitled in your mind are you, anyway?

          Timing, ramping up, ad campaigns that build buzz and then timed sequential rollouts are all part of analog merchandising and no digital creator will accept second tier status in marketing just because you can copy and distribute illegally. Releases and their timing are the rights of the creators and they will use law enforcement to make certain advance release is surveilled and deeply punished. “I want it now or I’ll steal it” deserves no respect, and it is never going to get it.

          You see? You are greedy and self-entitled and not thinking clearly. Just the fact you think you should take these rights away from the creators and their agents because you can pirate their goods instead is deeply offensive to the creative community and why law enforcement is the path going forward and for the forseeable future. If pirates were truly interested in changing the way things are done, they would have stopped buying, done without and lawfully taken the cartels apart. But getting stuff free was always the dominant point and now slowly, freedom by freedom, the industries are taking it back. And there’s not a damn thing you can do about it now, short of government overthrow.

        • MadAsASnake

          @anon

          Digital media is not moving to analog forms: it can’t – that genie left the bottle years ago. I don’t buy / have a kindle because they can’t. I buy a book, ten people will read it. (I SHARE it – this is LEGAL) I buy an eBook – the idiots want the same price but I can’t share it – so thats a tenfold increase in price. That sharing is built into centuries of book creation and pricing. It can’t be baked into digital and it would be stupid to try. Books were created to share information. nce it’s out, you can’t take it back. Same thing happens every time new tech comes in – the idiots try kill it if they don’t get a fatter wedge.

          Now, the oppressive laws these pricks are illegally buying from corrupt US politicians are ineffectual as well as dangerous. I take issue with my perfectly legitimate online activities coming under the scrutiny of and being curtailed by of private interests who have no regard at all for the law, due process or peoples rights. What happened to Kim Dotcom is an absolute travesty to the rule of law – the FBI lied to the NZ govt (MY govt btw). They are currently demanding a levy on my connection – no chance – why should I pay them because it is possible to do something they consider illegal?

        • Anon

          @MadAsASnake

          Books were created to store information, to falsely imply “share information” is as self serving as it is factually incorrect, and you can legally share books and should be able to because they are rivalrous. That’s not what pirates do. An ebook isn’t shared, it’s copied to other ereaders so everyone gets a free copy, that’s not rivalrous and consequently unfair. That’s the whole point of the debate, indeed the genie is not out of the bottle and you’d know that if you follow the trends. Government and industry is just getting started. Count yourself lucky if they only levy your connection.

          Whatever you may think of KimDotCom his fortune didn’t come from creating the goods he trafficked in, it came from leveraging goods created and lawfully controlled by others. Without stolen content he had a 2% lawful business. If he gets 75 years in prison and gets out on good behavior after about 55 years it would seem about right to me, so let’s watch.

          The oppressive laws you appear to resent are a consequence of unlawful online behavior. Do you think I really care you “take issue” with your activities being surveilled? Not even close. You might as well complain about speed traps on highways, surveillance cameras in retail shops, photo ID required to write a check, all the same in the bigger picture. Get used to it. All of it is in direct consequence of people acting unlawfully enough times and over a long enough period of time to justify taking away the freedom they are exploiting for ill. Piracy much? Nothing new there, either.

          If piracy keeps up more laws will come to the table, if online fraud of credit card theft keeps up more laws will come, if spoofing and bullying keeps up, more laws, if VPN’s and encryption continue to be used unlawfully they’ll be licensed, too.

          Don’t pirates ever study their business history?
          Probably not.
          Too busy torrenting. :-)

        • MadAsASnake

          @Anon

          Yes – as anonymous said, you can’t be reasoned with. Whether documentation is rivalrous is not a function of whether it is digital or not. I can copy a book but it’s not usually economic to do so. I can share a book as history has shown yyou can’t stop it. However, digital separates the material from the medium so that new distribution forms are possible and sensible, and old ones die. Forcing the old models onto new formats does not work. This is exactly the challenge the incumbent media players refuse to rise to. Kodak is in trouble not because of “piracy”, but because no-one uses anything but digital imaging any more. Kodak havn’t tried to force analog process (develop and print) onto digital media – would be nuts to try… Kodak certainly don’t deserve a subsidy because a better tech came along… nor do I beleive that the content industry (actually the IP trolls looking to extort people) are an appropriate body to be performing surveillance. OK – let your precious industry stay the way it is. Perfectly legal competition will sweep them away within a decade. I don’t owe them. I am not “lucky” only paying them a levy. I won’t pay them a levy (OK if that comes in I download anything I want – I don’t now BTW).They are not a govt. org and do not have the right to raise taxes. DMCA, SOPA, PIPA and so on are ghastly laws in that they are oppressive and only cause collateral damage. “Piracy” as you call it is not a big problem – look at how FEW people months of HADOPI has netted. Nice to know that you think copying is a crime worthy of greater punishment than murder. Good to see your sense of proportion. What has happened to Kim Dotcom is a complete travesty against rule of law and due process, not to mention a waste of NZ taxpayers $. Much better spending that money on serious problems, like rebuilding my hometown that got smashed up a year ago.

        • Anon

          @ MadAsASnake

          If people were taking and copying Kodaks’ work without permission or compensation, Kodak would be suing, too, regardless of the format or the media. You conveniently avoid the real-world issues of licensing, property, ownership and international agreements that acknowledge and enforce legal rights. You take any credibility out of your voice when you pretend you live in another world and other people, artists and corporations don’t have rights, too. They do. That’s why the debate is going the way it is going. That’s why Kim is in real trouble now, as he should be.

          So as long as you keep spinning this as new tech that justifies digital file theft and not property ownership with very real rights attached, you’ll be on the losing side of the law, the debate, the “reason” and the future. Don’t believe me? Keep watching. lol

          I think you are smart enough to know and small-mindedly selfish enough not to care.

    • Guest

      To the TORRENT FREAK STAFF, Please allow us to reply more than 4 threads deep. Seriously it is piss take having to reply to the guy above me all the time with @username to refer to them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Ford-Ford/100000522232770 Ben Ford Ford

    “Real patent reform…”

    It appears the only thing you know about patents is you don’t have any.

    “America Invents Act”

    “This is not a patent reform bill” Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) complained, despite other democrats praising the overhaul. “This is a big corporation patent giveaway that tramples on the right of small inventors.”

    Senator Cantwell is right. Just because they call it “reform” doesn’t mean it is. The agents of banks, huge multinationals, and China are at it again trying to brain wash and bankrupt America.

    They should have called the bill the America STOPS Inventing Act or ASIA, because that’s where it is sending all our jobs.

    The patent bill is nothing less than another monumental federal giveaway for banks, huge multinationals, and China and an off shoring job killing nightmare for America. Even the leading patent expert in China has stated the bill will help them steal our inventions. Who are the supporters of this bill working for??

    Patent reform is a fraud on America. This bill will not do what they claim it will. What it will do is help large multinational corporations and maintain their monopolies by robbing and killing their small entity and startup competitors (so it will do exactly what the large multinationals paid for) and with them the jobs they would have created. The bill will make it harder and more expensive for small firms to get and enforce their patents. Without patents we cant get funded. In this way large firms are able to play king of the hill and keep their small competitors from reaching their full potential as large firms have. Yet small entities create the lion’s share of new jobs. According to recent studies by the Kauffman Foundation and economists at the U.S. Census Bureau, “startups aren’t everything when it comes to job growth. They’re the only thing.” This bill is a wholesale slaughter of US jobs. Those wishing to help fight this bill should contact us as below.

    Small entities and inventors have been given far too little voice on this bill when one considers that they rely far more heavily on the patent system than do large firms who can control their markets by their size alone. The smaller the firm, the more they rely on patents -especially startups and individual inventors. Congress tinkering with patent law while gagging inventors is like a surgeon operating before examining the patient.

    Those wishing to help fight big business giveaways should contact us as below and join the fight as we are building a network of inventors and other stakeholders to lobby Congress to restore property rights for all patent owners -large and small.

    Please see http://truereform.piausa.org/default.html for a different/opposing view on patent reform.
    http://docs.piausa.org/

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Great work Kirby, and I’ve just sent you $25 via Kickstarter for your new project “This is Not a Conspiracy Theory”
    http://www.everythingisaremix.info/

    @ MAFIAA.org see how us thieving pirates pay decent people cash up-front? Hope it hurts you BIG time you stupid twats.

  • http://twitter.com/rottedcockmeat rottedcockmeat

    i demand that my grandmother make money for making one-hundred quilts when she only made one. and anyone who looks at said quilt without first paying a fee should be sued. and god forbid anyone who replicates the pattern.

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  • Noone

    This is kind of a nudge to all the above comments about copyright being a certain length etc & complaining about the length of copyright as it is & as they are trying to get it.

    I’m with you all the way BUT….

    Lest you forget there is currently a bill (proposal) that is being pushed to take works OUT OF THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.

    If this bill gets passed it wouldn’t matter how long copyright is because anything that “slips” into the public domain that creates some kind of financial interest in the future could quite easily be taken back OUT OF THE PUBLIC DOMAIN & used for profit again.

    I would love to provide a link to back up my claim but for the life of me I can’t remember where I read it (wasn’t here) & googling/binging/yahooing has given me no joy either.

    If any TF readers can find it or any updates a link would be appreciated.

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