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51 Jan 02, 2008 at 14:25 by neeks

[quote comment="253899"]But how do you explain Heroes (which is available for free from NBC.com and yet is #1) and Battlestar Galactica (which is available commercial free from itunes but is #3).[/quote]

They’re both also available from P2P, without cost and commercial free.

I can’t judge the quality and speed on NBC.com and neither know how fast they get the shows on the site, since I and the rest of the world outside the US (this is a lot of people, by the way) aren’t allowed in. I’m guessing it’s a pixelated, streaming bit-soup.

When it comes to the iTunes (iTV-Shows!?) store, you have to wait the arbitrary length of at least one day after the show has aired to get it in 640×480. At least according to the site. I don’t want to check what they do to get them into that resolution…

P2P offers shows in all available resolutions and in equipment-friendly formats, on time and blazingly fast (at least relative to the competitors). P2P wins. Fatality.

52 Jan 02, 2008 at 14:53 by Tekka

I download LOST, heroes and family guy, but I also buy them when they are available on DVD. I’m i Australia so it’s easier to watch them via downloading and get my fix then through commercial networks.

53 Jan 02, 2008 at 15:06 by JohnnyFACEHEAD

i do it because it makes me a pirate, and pirates are cool.

54 Jan 02, 2008 at 15:26 by Axel

intresting that Simpsons is loosing its tight grip over the TV industry..

Also z0mfg dexter is the worst show ever.

55 Jan 02, 2008 at 15:39 by Anonymous

Here’s a toast to downloading even more content in 2008.

56 Jan 02, 2008 at 15:42 by Tom

I had no idea that top gear was such a well known / liked show, I thought the world hated British programming - I sure as hell hate Eastenders :D

57 Jan 02, 2008 at 15:43 by Anonymous

[quote comment="253878"]It’s kind of odd how people have no idea, but I work for a company that is employed by CBS, and we’re basically in charge of discovering marketing tactics and such, along with their own marketing team. However, our main focus is on digital means as well as doing surveys and such. Anyway, currently television studios, probably all of them, are trying to incorporate online downloading into their game plan. It is difficult to do though, since many advertisers HATE the internet as a way of advertising and they have the most say. People ignore internet ads too much. Offering shows without ads, means no money. Product placement can be incorporated except that it can make things cheesy. We’re currently working on a way to download free shows (no drm) but running a little ad before the download, than in order to download, one must answer a question from the previous commercial to show that they paid attention. People WILL do this because our servers will give 300k/sec downloads and option of 3 quality levels such as MP3player, VCD, and HD. Give us 2 years, and this will be the major way we’re doing business. In fact, there is a company that is designing a set top box which is basically a computer that uses IPTV and has a video on demand service as well as can receive cable from your service providers as well.[/quote]

That sounds like a good idea.

58 Jan 02, 2008 at 17:13 by Tenche

I personaly dont download movie for the simple reason ITS WORSE THEN ANYTHING ELSE..
They are really looking for people who pirate movies over games and songs..

I did once download the first 10% of I am Legend just to get mediasentry’s IP into my peerguardian so I could Slap them with that IP slapping program lol
But then I quickly deleted all contents from my computer and had peerguardian and my Antivirus running.

ALSO I could see WAY AFTER I turned my Bittorrent off they were still trying to hit me through peerguardian.. Newbs…
Even if they got through peerguardian I use a number of safe ways to hide my info…

59 Jan 02, 2008 at 17:46 by ....-=\

I believe that movies are a complete waste of our precious time
I’ve got better things to do…
The reason why I am no longer interested in fantasy created to twist our reality…

Peace.

60 Jan 02, 2008 at 17:50 by Scott

“it’s more about availability than the fact that it’s free, as illustrated by the huge number of downloads TV-shows have”

Is that true? Didn’t Radiohead offer its album online, payable by credit card, without a record company? I’d say that’s the peak of availability, and yet 60% of its customers chose to acquire that album for free from the Radiohead website.

I’d say FREE really plays into the equation here!!

61 Jan 02, 2008 at 18:07 by shiva

This article has been pirated in one of India’s top sites called rediff.com. please check it out guys

http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/jan/02sli1.htm

62 Jan 02, 2008 at 18:24 by stellamanna

@ tom
i thought the same!
top gear no.2 in the list? whod have thought it? but it is fooking great though! the polar expedition was superb!
c’mon bbc, start selling top gear for a bit more, you could then reduce my licence fee!

63 Jan 02, 2008 at 18:28 by Of course

Given that:
* they don’t release episodes til at least a season or so behind the US (e.g. everything on the list)

Hell, I download stuff. Mainly because I don’t watch TV and am not in the USA.

Difference is (with a lot of people reading this) is that I also get the DVDs when they come out. Same with songs: if you like an artist you aren’t helping ‘em by pirating their music and not giving anything back.

Also: to all you people downloading family guy without every buying a DVD: you do realise that DVD sales were the only thing that brought it back. If you want it to survive then don’t just mooch it, buy something occasionally.

64 Jan 02, 2008 at 18:52 by Ola, Sweden

[quote comment="253878"]It’s kind of odd how people have no idea, but I work for a company that is employed by CBS, and we’re basically in charge of discovering marketing tactics and such, along with their own marketing team. However, our main focus is on digital means as well as doing surveys and such. Anyway, currently television studios, probably all of them, are trying to incorporate online downloading into their game plan. It is difficult to do though, since many advertisers HATE the internet as a way of advertising and they have the most say. People ignore internet ads too much. Offering shows without ads, means no money. Product placement can be incorporated except that it can make things cheesy. We’re currently working on a way to download free shows (no drm) but running a little ad before the download, than in order to download, one must answer a question from the previous commercial to show that they paid attention. People WILL do this because our servers will give 300k/sec downloads and option of 3 quality levels such as MP3player, VCD, and HD. Give us 2 years, and this will be the major way we’re doing business. In fact, there is a company that is designing a set top box which is basically a computer that uses IPTV and has a video on demand service as well as can receive cable from your service providers as well.[/quote]

This sounds great and it’s amazing to hear that the networks are doing this kind of work (because it doesn’t show at all yet.).

BUT, they need to make this available to the whole internet, not just the US. And the 300 k/sec speeds sound okay i guess but are still no match against the 10 MB/s i get from torrents immediately after the episodes are shown in the US (yes that’s megabytes, not bits).

The BitTorrent protocol is essential to make this possible. Don’t even think about using the servers you mentioned as old school Internet servers just streaming content at 300 k/sec.

Keep up the good work and convince the networks and advertisers that this is the way to go!

65 Jan 02, 2008 at 21:14 by Anonymous

[quote]I did once download the first 10% of I am Legend just to get mediasentry’s IP into my peerguardian so I could Slap them with that IP slapping program lol
But then I quickly deleted all contents from my computer and had peerguardian and my Antivirus running.

ALSO I could see WAY AFTER I turned my Bittorrent off they were still trying to hit me through peerguardian.. Newbs…
Even if they got through peerguardian I use a number of safe ways to hide my info…[/quote]

ANTI-P2P BLOCKLISTS ARE NOT EFFECTIVE. THEY WILL NOT KEEP YOU ANONYMOUS, THEY ARE NEXT TO USELESS.

I had to use caps, really :)

66 Jan 02, 2008 at 21:15 by GanglyTeeters

Transformers - #1
Bourne - #9

Now that’s fucking sad.

67 Jan 02, 2008 at 21:52 by Warm For Your Form

[quote comment="254132"]This sounds great and it’s amazing to hear that the networks are doing this kind of work (because it doesn’t show at all yet.).[/quote]
If the TV networks (or any other media distributer) are working on a content download system, why do the representing authorities persue file sharing with such vigor? Why don’t the put their energy into developing a standard system of delivery with the TV networks to ensure future income streams rather than asinine legal cases against end users, the very people they’re trying to reach.

Oh wait, it was a rhetorical question because the anti-piracy organisations represent their own interests, not the interests of the artists or producers.

I find the concept amusing that this technology is 2 years away in the USA when it exists in the UK and Australia already. I downloaded all the episodes of Summer Heights High from the network website because I enjoyed watching the series on TV so much and bought the DVD when it was released.

68 Jan 03, 2008 at 00:01 by jsk

i’d be funny if the most downloaded movie on 2008 was High School Musical 3 which will suck just like the other ones.

69 Jan 03, 2008 at 00:05 by Norm

I was forced to watch Transformers at a family gathering the other day. It sucked.

There was simply no content. The movie was just scene after scene of special effects, references, and nostalgia. The plot just seemed to act as filler. The characters were 2 dimensional, and downright obnoxious. The actual transformers cartoon had more depth that this excuse for a movie.

That’s why I’m so glad Transformers is getting pirated. That means somewhere down the line, somebody’s loosing money. That makes up for the 2 fucking hours I had to spend watching that pile of crap. In fact I might just seed a torrent of Transformers to help the thing along.

70 Jan 03, 2008 at 02:19 by Riot

I don’t know about you, but some stuff is not only difficult, but downright impossible to find in certain areas, at least without a high import tax. For the music, it would help them a lot more if I purchased a ticket into their concert than if I were to buy a CD in which they get a commission for, unless its all indie stuff. Well, we can talk this to death but the basic reasoning is that you want to survive in the most comfort you can, and if you can do it without paying, why not right? You’re not really hurting anyone by downloading, its more like you’re getting stuff you wouldn’t have purchased anyways, or wanna try before getting. Its not reasonable to go into a move theatre to find out the movie sucked, and they still got your money, or the album you got only have 2 good songs on it.

71 Jan 03, 2008 at 02:31 by anonymous42

I look at the internet, p2p, and such, as my VCR/PVR/VOD. I pay for cable, I pay to rent my PVR, but I still miss shows, or my cable company screws up the timing and I miss the ending of a show. With the PVR I skip the commercials anyway, with the download, no commercials to skip, and for series I really enjoy, like heroes, I still went out and bought the DVD’s. Fianly, the networks haven’t clued in that putting a two month break in the middle of a series is just a major piss off, so for shows such as SG-Atlantis, I can get it from a UK broadcast, only a couple of weeks after it’s stopped airing in NA, and a month or more before it picks up again here. As far as I’m concerned I’ve paid for the content by paying my cable bill, how I watch it or when is none of their damn business.

72 Jan 03, 2008 at 02:32 by maxibon

oh yea. top gear no. 2. oh yea. oh yea.

73 Jan 03, 2008 at 03:17 by Scott

[quote comment="254205"]
If the TV networks (or any other media distributer) are working on a content download system, why do the representing authorities persue file sharing with such vigor? Why don’t the put their energy into developing a standard system of delivery with the TV networks to ensure future income streams rather than asinine legal cases against end users, the very people they’re trying to reach.

Oh wait, it was a rhetorical question because the anti-piracy organisations represent their own interests, not the interests of the artists or producers.
[/quote]

I think they pursue pirates with great vigor for a few reasons: first, it’s much easier to recoup short-term monetary losses through a lawsuit than to pour money into R&D to develop technology with potentially long-term gains but also very many short and long term risks.

Second reason is that attacking pirates attacks the problem at its source, which is often the most direct way to stop pirating. Unfortunately, the industry needs more preventative measures to stop pirating before it starts, not while its in full swing.

Last reason is that attacking pirates through lawsuits is a scare tactic designed to reduce piracy. Some people think this works, others do not. There are just as many “studies” claiming distribution companies are losing money as there are “studies” claiming distribution companies are making money.

Next, let’s not fault anti-piracy organizations for pursuing their own interests. Everyone pursues their own interests. It’s human nature. If pirates did not pursue their own interests, there would be no piracy.

In the end, what distribution companies are going through is a huge lose-lose for them. I don’t think distribution companies are shying away from using the Internet to bring content to people; in the USA, many channels provide streaming HD content and it’s only a matter of time before they begin to offer downloadable DVDs.

The thing is that no amount of revolutionary distribution technology is going to stop piracy. Ingenious people are always going to find away to crack these softwares in order to provide this content to others for free. People who suggest that suddenly pirates would pay for content if it were available to them in a more accessible medium are way too optimistic. If given a choice between highly accessible at a cost and highly accessible for free, the overwhelming majority will choose highly accessible for free.

74 Jan 03, 2008 at 03:26 by Hater.

Warm For Your Form your comment got into the paper in Australia.

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