ya losers!

*!

heheh

Your crappy dvdRips and TV shows that don’t even *touch* a scene release?

I’m willing to bet that if the Scene was gone — or actually succeeded in keeping it’s stuff internal, 99.999% of you wouldn’t be able to figure out how to crack quality software. . .

Which one of you has *ever* contributed *anything* (besides bandwidth — and maybe the time it took you to make a torrent) to *releasing* **ANYTHING**???

Again I say. . .without the Scene. . . .what are you going to share. . .morons. . . .[/quote]

I’ve ripped better shit than the scene, and I’m an amateur. Software cracking is a bit tougher, but anyone can do it if they read a little, and practice. Software isn’t as important today anyways – Open source software is beginning to eliminate the need for software cracking in some areas (why crack crappy windows vista when you can run linux for free?).

P2p does rely on the scene, but I don’t think this will last forever. If the scene died out, private individuals would begin releasing more content outside of scene groups and put them up directly on p2p networks.

The individual pirate makes more sense now a days. The hierarchy of the scene is outdated. It was necessary in the days of the BBS, but p2p and other factors make the idea of “groups” and “standards” a bit silly. The scene is not as important today as it was, and sceners will have to adapt to the new conditions, or die out.

Not everyone with skills is a douche bag like you obviously are. You want a badge or something? How about an attaboy? I put out stuff for people who want it for their own enjoyment and there are many others who will do the same, not everyone that can do things is a self important shithead.

btw I banged your mom last night and spewd on your picture, bitch was a terrible lay and cooks shitty breakfast.

// total crap article! fake! and btw torrent lamers arent pirates!

You gotta be shitting me. Anyone can find out this stuff, I knew more than this about the scene back when I was just a lil torrent kiddie.

Read a few NFO’s and you can find any of this out easily. The scene is much too insecure though, more private IRC servers using FiSH are needed, screw SSL.

Also, too much people are trying to deny this interview. Thats why I think this interview is true.

Here’s the idea: Park your car (if you have one) or your bike in a park in a big city. Find a spot without camera’s watching you. Boot your laptop. Pick a random open access point, or crack one that uses encryption. Start uploading your torrent to the trackers. Use a peer-contact of yours to bounce the upload to other (new/first) peers. After having been uploading a couple of minutes, go home and finish the upload, proxied if need be, but it doesn’t matter much since there is no torrent tracking server software that keeps the peer-IP’s after the initial upload-IP was logged. Cookies and hashes (still on your laptop) do the rest. You’re completely in the clear. If you know enough peers to cooperate with, you can use DHT and PE to shield it during its first hour.

Yeh, that is why they have group names and make such pretty nfos. They dont want to be known. Anonimity… thats it!

Also, those older scene members aren’t afraid of change. Top-sites aren’t the end-all be-all any longer. They actually USE bittorrent now as a prime release-medium, because of its source anonimity options. I know this first hand from actual founders of the ‘warez scene’. They’re not impressed at all.

This lamer is a traitor and will be expunged accordingly in due time.

I’ve respect for anyone who’s mastered a debugger and assembler to the level of reverse engineering advanced protection code.

Obviously everyone who feels entitled to having free everything since day one has not.

Music and movies are only one click rippable now because people smarter than 98% of all others have reverse engineered their copy protections and developed tools that in turn got built into GUI-wrapped one-click toys.

Almost any and all “p2p consumers” are 100% reliant on smarter people than they are to be able to do ANYTHING with what the industry churns out.

If the “p2p crowd” thinks they are so smart then I’d say: reality check, how many of you could have decrypted blue ray discs on your own?
DVDs?
Cactus shield Audio CDs?
Any other protection at all?
Bypass software dongles(Adobe et al)?

So basically – nobody would be able to do SHIT without this legion of people SMARTER than them ENABLING them to do what they now assume to be “normal” right now.

People forget where things come from; people forget who enabled them; people do not have enough imagination to realize that there very well could be a scenario in which you can’t get a crack until the 3-6 months it takes a commercial “clone” software maker to update their copying mechanisms pass so that the 1-click solution even allows making an image of a game.
Let alone finding a solution for any kind of software or activation based something.

A lot of things also stem from the “independents”, but they, too, are still a rare elite that enable others.

You can love or hate these people, but the reality is that without them there would be no cracking, ripping, cloning, copying ANYTHING.
Whether they’re part of scene groups or independent coders.

They, not the end user, determine the viability of “backups” and “wares” in the first place.

People who have yet to replace their first JNE with a JMP should just hush. They can blubber all they want and make bigmouthy words; they are worthless consumers and have no value on and of their own.
They aren’t useful in any other way than being storage and conductor – instantly replaceable by any other random participant.

Words won’t remove the next copy protection – someone with skills will.
Saying if the scene disappears everyone will just do the stuff on their own works really nicely. Until the protections and tech changes. Then there’s ground zero again.

Then you’re once again at the mercy of pioneers of reverse engineering doing the dirty work and laying out the groundwork.

Telling those people they’re faggots might noooooot be the nicest way of saying thanks. Again – scene or not.

I respect what these people can do.

And I don’t mean pressing F5 on FlashFXP.

oo the scene hate torrents, well guess what, its a shit load easier for me to wake up, browse to the piratebay and download the lastest heroes, rather than all this cloak and dagger shit, being a l33t sys admin. woo, im impressed.
most people have lives outside their pcs, i get the impression the “scene” dont.

You’re an idiot for not understanding the difference between ripping something weeks or months before it’s commercial release and ripping it after everyone has it.

You’re an idiot.

@80

You’re an idiot too. Almost any monkey can rip music as well as “the scene” with 10 minutes or training. Who gives a shit how perfect a release is as long as you can listen to it without distortion and who gives a shit if you have to wait an extra day or two to get it.

How long will it take for dumbass racers to realize it’s not about them. It’s about the public, as long as something works, no one gives a shit about your fucking PROPER if the sound’s off by 3 frames or some other lame excuse. Some scene encoding rules are also damn stupid and bandwidth wasting.

People aren’t gonna bitch about free shit unless it’s total crap. When the scene rushes releases they tend to be crap, and there’s has been a lot of crap the last 2 years.

The whole of what you said is so true. Nice comment!

. . .still rotflol. . . .

Despite the love/hate between scene elites and internet folk heros Sean Fanning & BrokeP (and others), we can all get along, somehow by working against the real problems of global corporate greed; call them what you will (hard to define as they evolve: Techocracy, Corporate Dictatorship, invent your own word here).

“their” implies ownership, as in ‘their car’.

“they’re” is the word that you are looking for, as in ‘they are’.

;-)

There are approximately 100 0day releases, 5 movie releases, 2 game releases, 10 dox releases and 200+ mp3 releases each day in the scene.

Now, I haven’t been a scene member since 2005 – all I use nowadays are torrents – but jesus, I don’t pretend that the scene isn’t a reality, because it most certainly is, and the best content has been and always will be there, sooner than anywhere else.

The point of the scene is that those who can’t do shit don’t deserve shit. Most people who do the ground work in the scene (suppliers, topsite-ops etc) usually put their jobs and indeed their lives on the line. Do you think they want your shitty home-ripped CD from last week in return?

Just take a look at Operation Buccaneer, Operation Fastlink and Operation Site Down at Wikipedia.

How much do you have anyway? You sound lame, as do most of these other asshats.

@ All

Who cares how the fuck you got it, as long as you can get it. “ooh i got this from there, I’m cool”, how infantile.

“Oldschool hippies” know the real ways to get stuff and it’s not through p2p networks.

p2p is the future, no question about it; it just takes some people longer to realize than others…

A few years ago there were already groups expressing interest and experimenting with closed p2p networks for distribution since it would be more efficient, no idea if they went ahead with implementing anything but they themselves use, or will use the same technology as public p2pers in a closed, encrypted vpn. Once everything is distributed inside it can easily be pushed to public sources in no time. Topsites are oldschool and will soon no longer be needed, they’re just used for quality control and are basically a power trip for stupid kids that run them. (stupid because they’ll eventually get caught, if not now, in the future, they’re just too high on their power trip to realize it)

Your crappy dvdRips and TV shows that don’t even *touch* a scene release?

I’m willing to bet that if the Scene was gone — or actually succeeded in keeping it’s stuff internal, 99.999% of you wouldn’t be able to figure out how to crack quality software. . .

Which one of you has *ever* contributed *anything* (besides bandwidth — and maybe the time it took you to make a torrent) to *releasing* **ANYTHING**???

Again I say. . .without the Scene. . . .what are you going to share. . .morons. . . .[/quote]

True without the scene we would lose a lot of quality, however, we would still be able to get the same things(At least in the video department). When it comes to cracking/keygens, we wouldn’t get anything nearly as fast, if at all. But I do think that if the scene managed to stop everything from being leaked onto torrents/usenet/irc/the rest, a new, albeit not as good, scene would arise from torrentsites.

Your crappy dvdRips and TV shows that don’t even *touch* a scene release?

I’m willing to bet that if the Scene was gone — or actually succeeded in keeping it’s stuff internal, 99.999% of you wouldn’t be able to figure out how to crack quality software. . .

Which one of you has *ever* contributed *anything* (besides bandwidth — and maybe the time it took you to make a torrent) to *releasing* **ANYTHING**???

Again I say. . .without the Scene. . . .what are you going to share. . .morons. . . .

Uhm.. Ok, I dunno how much things have changed since I was active (which I was up until 2001), but sceners hardly ever ran anything on ‘normal’ connections.

Sure, the racers would sit at home on their crappy 512kbps pipes and FXP stuff back and forth, but the actual servers – which in my mind _is_ the scene were running on 100mbps minimum (Ok, I remember running a site on a 10mbps pipe back in 94 – but jeez that’s a long time ago).

We had topsites running from within the major ISPs at the time – heck, we even had a server planted at Posten SDS (now ErgoGroup) in Norway.

Anyway, the scene has always had the same attitude towards other ppl. Be it torrents, kazaa, webwares, irc, usenet – and they’re all still there (well, apart from the odd bust now and then).

Also, the scene keeps shooting themselves in their collective feet with that anti-p2p stance of theirs…granted, it is currently keeping them “safe” from the “perils” of the p2p community – but without the public exposure this community brings, and the huge pressure it throws on ISPs to increase bandwidth availability, the Scene would have no chance of becoming legal in ANY way and would probably still be running on > 1mbit ADSL connections…