Torrent sites under attack
Written by Ernesto on February 24, 2006The MPAA filed lawsuits against Torrentspy, Isohunt, Torrentbox, Niteshadow and Bthub. This could have a huge impact on the BitTorrent community since Torrentspy and Isohunt are two of the most frequently visited torrent sites.
But on the other hand, Isohunt and Torrentspy are torrent search engines and DO NOT host any torrents so the MPAA may have a hard time to built a strong case.
Slyck got a chance to talk to the operators of Torrentspy and Isohunt, and they responded quite relaxed:
“Funny, they didn’t email me,” Gary from ISOHunt said. “I’m not too concerned because we deal with copyright requests everyday, some of them from studios MPAA represents.”
“Justin” from TorrentSpy echoed Gary’s skepticism. “I guess I will learn more when I see what they have filed exactly. I’m not sure why they are suing when we comply with DMCA requests but I guess we will learn more down the road.”
Let’s wait and see, here’s a copy of the press release. Besides the 5 torrent sites ed2k-it.com (Edonkey), nzb-zone.com, binnews.com and dvdrs.net (newsgroups) are also targeted.
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You lot are no better than the petty thievin chavs that steal cds from high street music stores. Get a job so you can actually buy one and stop whining about the threat of not being able to steal so easily. And no I’m not from the MPAA.
I don’t see the problem w/ downloading. I’ve done alot of research into this, including many a college essay/paper/etc and ALL of the legal documents I find describe peer to peer downloading as LEGAL! It’s the same principle as me recording a song off the radio on to a cassete, then giving you a copy of the cassete(this is actually descibed in digital protection act documents). Exept we do it electronicly over much larger distances and many thousands of times.
As a search engine TS, isohunt etc will be fine. Unless they want to take on google for any kiddie porn or ‘how to make a pipe bomb’ sites that may just happen to show up. They might as well be consistant as ‘internet police’ and go after everyone.
THIS IS GREEDY LAWYER STUFF! NOT 12 YEAR OLD KIDS GOING TO JAIL STUFF!
You are right, p2p will never die, once one falls another one rises.
Sharing is caring. Fuck the RIAA!
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I rest my case.
i think the mpaa sucks and whats a matter with idiots saying the mpaa is right hahah yea right the only thing there good for is abusing people stealing money from them and what you mean those sites are shit isohunt is a good site to dl from i been using it had no probs pluss its got plenty on it so if i cant find a file from one site il go there for it so as far as im concerned the riaa and mpaa can kiss my ass i hope those sites fight them to the bitter end and win hahaha screw you mpaa and riaa also it doesnt matter if they take down the best site another one starts up so they are never wining anything wont get them anywhere look what happend to suprnova that got taken down but now there is a simalar site called newnova so there ya have it p2p will never die no matter what p2p rules
The whole thing is completely ridiculous. First of all you get all this new stuff i.e. dvd burners dvd software from sites and you cannot use it to the way it should be used.
However my main gripe is why the hell do they not bring the movie out on dvd at the same time as the cinema. Reason I am sick of going to movies as you either sit next to somtime who sounds like a cow when they are eating or they make a noise or talk whilst the movie is on.
I like to watch the movies in the comfort of my own home.
Also there has been a 45% drop in people between the ages of 30-45 and it was not because they were downloading the movies it was because that there is a load of shit coming out at the moment. Why should I pay $25 to go and watch shit.
what irks the hell outta me is that the MPAA SUPPOSED to be doign thier jo by trying to get sites like that to stop. What they need to do is stop the bullshit of artists relasing albums with 2 or 3 really good songs and 12 shitty ones!! trust me, for someone who has accumalated over 4000 cd’s in 15 years - alot of the stuffi bought was not worth the damn money!!
There’s no way I’m going to believe the magnitude of loses they claim. Those figures are sensationalized with the math. I purchase a $50 pay-per-view and “illegally” invite 10 friends over to watch for free, I guess that counts as a $500 loss to the industry. I’ll bet the artist would not notice a change in their income one way or another because it’s not like the numbers per recording or movies downloaded are in the millions where noone goes to the movies or concerts anymore. The industry spends huge sums on sometimes bad investments and need a scapegoat. There has to be some concession for technology. DivX is the leading format for internet downloads so now they make DVD players that can play this. DVD9 makes it so you don’t have to “shrink” a movie to fit a dvd. They can’t stop technology! Damn the inventor of the vcr!
Pay to pay,
Ask yourself:
Why when i buy Blank Cd i pay a tax for piracy? (even if i dont download anything)
Why CD/DVD burner exist?
In which ways i make compagny lose money if i download it?, if i couldnt download it (example photoshop) i couldnt afford to pay for it anyways. so where i make them losing money? isnt logical…
Why i paid for a ADSL/DSL (or simply high speed internet) ? for my email? dont make me laughing… In the ISP publicity at TV they said (and im not lying) DOWNLOAD MOVIE, MUSIC and ..blablabla … ok so if p2p has never existed, if bitttorent and all these program never existed, then the “movie” they talk about is what?… a preview in weak quality Mpeg? the music is what? MIDI FILES??? … i dont need a high speed internet connection to download these.. Sorry but MPAA SUCK and they are in the wrong side of logical evolution, we, the peoples are tired to be manipulated and not taken serious so MPAA can go fuck herself, i’ll not have fear of any of these nonsense organisation. I am a pirate and i’ll stay…
Stealing is bad, but they do it from the beginning, now it’s our turn.
yeah!, its call retribution! lol
KEEP ALIVE TORRENTSPY!!
MPAA SUCK
I hate the stupid bastards tat yeah you are stealing go get a job and buy the shit let me make a few points
1 I have job so yeah i could afford to buy but wont :-) (i have been scamoed long enough)
2 I doubt you got to this site without knowing about downloading with torrent and you downloaded copyright stuff yourself.
3 We sound like 10 year olds ? why were the fuck did anyone say power rangers .
4 Yes a law will be made in that place you call freedom that makes it wrong to link a file to copyright material it will go if a goes to b to c then a is illegal etc etc
nitsdw why you closed up man ? gzip and move ask zippy here he can help
so many good points made so far! At the end of the day, shutting down these websites will spawn more! This is something that cannot be controlled. Think about IRC spy, i never hear about about the MPAA looking to shutdown the IRC clients! Personally i hope they do shut them down, it will only create newer and better downloadig options for us. Ad until it does, we can all use the Pirate Bay!
Long live Torrents !
Don’t this people got something’s better to do? then trageting torrents site and it user…this piss me off.
MPAA SUCKS DONKEYS DONG ,
I HOPE THEY BANKRUPT SOON !!
This reeks of desperation.
We can only imagine the failed meetings and research grants which lead up to this action being taken. There’s allegedly $5 Billion dough on the line, so at least say $100 Million sitting in the kitty to any dude who can come up with a workable solution to the industries woes. And yet _ZERO_ takers!
With SO much at stake, and technology marching on, they’ve got no better solution yet than lobbying the US Senate to build copyright protection into “ALL” silicon chips - which Intel and others (correctly) maintain is “not in their interests” ..if not downright laughable.
These ongoing lawsuits are the equivalent of putting out a rampant forest fire with gasoline.
Niteshdw’s sci-fi torrent site used to be a good site but this MPAA scare has resulted in moderators threatening their members with giving away their IP addresses. Such a violation of privacy rights is a wrongful action and I think the Niteshdw forum site will dwindle in numbers, not only after the loss of their torrent site but also the threat to members who post on that forum.
“If we all stand back for a second though downloading content that you did not pay for is stealing”
If you see $20 in the middle of the road, and you decide to pocket it, is it theft? NO!
You see avi or mp3 floating accross the net, and you pick it up, is it theft?
Doesn’t matter, because the matter is academic anyway. Songs, music, lyrics, screenplays, scripts, producers, the whole works claim that they are artists. People create art for the purposes of sharing their vision with others. That’s primary for a TRUE artist. And sure, it’s not asking too much for wanting a little money for your art, after all, if it’s appreciated, help him continue making more art that you enjoy. However, all these so-called “Artists” have more than enough to feed their families (and damn near their whole community as well), in fact they have WAY more than a whole town of average people, so what are they whining about? Attacking people (finacially or otherwise) because they want to enjoy some art, imho, means that they are no true artist. They’re just another beaurocrat with way too much time and money on their hands, and have nothing better to do than act like a banker instead of creating art. Take for example Metallica suing Napster. What happened to the “I don’t care / Anarchy Rules / Rock on!” attitude of their art? They got what they preached then rolled over and belly-ached like a bunch of snot-nosed spoiled little brats.
Point is, they tighter they squeeze, the more they lose. Try it with a tube of Colgate…
And as for suing these search-engines, then they better go all the way and sue the ISP’s for providing the bandwidth we use, and sue the companies that make software for playing these illegal files (like WMP… g’head, sue Microsoft… no? didn’t think so), and maybe mitsumi, Fugitsu, and all thses other companies that make ginormous hard-drives to store all these files on, maybe Intel, Dell, IBM, Seanix and a slew of other PC manufacturers for providing the machines to do all this illegal stuff too, and then how about my employer for paying me enough to buy a machine that can play these files… … … …Fuck it, sue the world, because we are all guilty to some extent in this matter, if not directly, then as an unaware accomplice/accessory.
Or, they could say “screw you hippies, I’m gonna go find an honest line of work.” That, I think, would be much simpler, more productive, and probably make the world a much more civil place. Besides, the RIAA is based in a democratic country, and I don’t remember voting for their stupid laws that the vast majority of the public they claim to represent is utterly disgusted by..
RIAA, go away. You were never sanctioned by the majority, Just some idiot who collects a majority of his pay from a minority and thus caters to the lowest common denominator.
Hear that RIAA?
Not F-A-S-C-I-S-M,
Not D-E-S-P-O-T-I-S-M,
But D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y.
And the majority say’s “KISS MY TOE!”
mlm
Ok few more things to add
1 hknbuyvyui i would like to here from nite himself about giving user ips away which i think is pure donky doo shit
2 If you find 20 pound in england and you dont hand into the local police station yes it is theft i doubt they would act on it but it is the law
3 You dont find things floating on the internet you have to search them out and yes you are stealing face the facts
BUT the record people have been stealing for years and years and you know what they say goes around comes around.
MPAA THE SOLOUTION IS SO OBVIOUS IM SHOCKED YOU CAN SIT DOWN USE THAT BIG POT OF GOLD TO BRIBE THE SITE DOMAIN OWNERS HOST OWNERS ET ETC Lets see how many shut up shop then mpaa i expect a cut of th epie for this great idea.
C’mon people, quit acting like what you are doing is legal and moral. You are stealing music, video and software. You are installing/listening/watching WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT. It’s not called ‘Trial Version’ it’s called PIRACY. I do it, you do it, fuck it. Let it be what it is. No matter who they shut down next, another dozen places will open up. I personally don’t try to justify my piracy by saying it’s ‘try before you buy’ or ‘i only watched it once then deleted it’. That’s bullshit. Nobody goes out and buys an album that they already have, or software that’s already installed. What, do you just sit the software on your shelf just to ease your conscience? Grow up people. We’re all thieves. MPAA & RIAA are stupid to think they’ll stop it, but they aren’t wrong for trying to.
MPAA sucks
MPAA could prevent piracy by regulating movies, releasing good movies so people don’t feel ripped off in the theater after they saw a totally awesome, must see, do not miss, advertizement.. if MPAA loves $ so much, they’re gonna hurt themselves in the long run by trying to shut down main torrent sites!
What piss’s me tot he bone the mpaa only have a say in the usa yet they bug all of us.
Lol well i need to thank them LOL thanks to them i found some more sites lol nice work
Is this why torrentspy.com has been experiencing “high volume” on it’s latest torrents page? ..
And I love how everyone justifies everything, by the way. It makes me chuckle.
All the people that are saying FUCK da MPAA! are complete morons..
Although I agree that movies are overpriced, you (we) aren’t exactly helping the situation.
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