They’re organized crime at its finest. Al Capone would be proud.

I first visited mininova back in late 2004 ;). I first used bittorrent on scarywater in 2003…
early adopter here.

About the $110,000,000 fine. There is no way that Torrentspy ever made even a tenth that just from advertising. I know what the advertising revinue is for some big (albeit not as big as Torrentspy) torrent sites, and even extrapolating up to the traffic level TS would have had, it comes in at less than one million gross revenue (not counting expenses) for a site that was around for only two years.

He’ll probably spend the rest of his life in debtors prison.

Instead of mourning the site i suggest we all take a minutes silence for the brave soul who took on the man .

Their lawyer Ira Rothken: “The ruling was because Torrent Spy refused to reveal the identities of website users and the matter of whether the website infringed copyrights was never resolved in court.”

I did go around the “never trust a lawyer” rule though.. :)

Long Live Free Internet

“Order 2 (starting page 2 line 19) states that any representative of the company is perminantly prevented from engaging in any copyright infringement.”

Isn’t that the law already for everybody?

It’s a bullshit law anyway.[/quote]

ok 1) Its a judgement, not a law
2) This was a civil case, whilst breaching a court order is contempt of court, and doesn’t require a copyright case to be brought by a rights owner. instead, a notification to the court that it’s order has been violated. IIRC, you can go to jail for contempt.

I am not a lawyer, however, so my interpritaton in 2 might be a bit off, but that’s my understand of the law as it applied.

Ben

“Order 2 (starting page 2 line 19) states that any representative of the company is perminantly prevented from engaging in any copyright infringement.”

Isn’t that the law already for everybody?

It’s a bullshit law anyway.

There needs to be a follow up that explains everything properly.

The judgement is not what this article says it is, it has to do with how Torrentspy failed to follow court orders as they tried to protect its users information and NOTHING about copyright infringement or the legality of the site.. ;)

The judgement cannot be used for other cases as it has nothing to do with copyright infringement etc.

“This substantial money judgment sends a strong message about the illegality of sites. The demise of TorrentSpy is a clear victory for the studios and demonstrates that such pirate sites will not be allowed to continue to operate without facing relentless litigation by copyright holders.”

That comment and others made by RIAA constantly right now are nullified as the judgement had nothing to do with any of it.
Again typical RIAA behavior claiming wins they have not won yet, the only win they got was bankrupting Torrentspy.

To round it up: Nothing has changed except we now know it hurts bigtime not doing as the court wants..

Didnt have time to read >all< comments if anyone else pointed out this kinda huge flaw in the story.. ;p[/quote]

Have you actually read the judgement? Page 1, line 26 says its a final judgement on the claims of the plaintiff.

Page 2 line 4 shows how the $110.97M was broken down, referencing copyright law. Order 2 (starting page 2 line 19) states that any representative of the company is perminantly prevented from engaging in any copyright infringement.

Seems like a pretty damned solid case of ruling on the site, exactly as the article says, and not what you thought.

Where did you get this mistaken idea?

This is a big blow to the torrents and I am sure it will continue. But p2p will evolve like it always has. so all you kids who are reading this crap and think its the end of the world and are thinking about going emo and slitting your wrists…wait it out a few months because either nothing will change or a new p2p network/system will arise.

There needs to be a follow up that explains everything properly.

The judgement is not what this article says it is, it has to do with how Torrentspy failed to follow court orders as they tried to protect its users information and NOTHING about copyright infringement or the legality of the site.. ;)

The judgement cannot be used for other cases as it has nothing to do with copyright infringement etc.

“This substantial money judgment sends a strong message about the illegality of sites. The demise of TorrentSpy is a clear victory for the studios and demonstrates that such pirate sites will not be allowed to continue to operate without facing relentless litigation by copyright holders.”

That comment and others made by RIAA constantly right now are nullified as the judgement had nothing to do with any of it.
Again typical RIAA behavior claiming wins they have not won yet, the only win they got was bankrupting Torrentspy.

To round it up: Nothing has changed except we now know it hurts bigtime not doing as the court wants..

Didnt have time to read >all< comments if anyone else pointed out this kinda huge flaw in the story.. ;p

I see people speak in here like the big movie corporations are going into dept or smth. Is this really the case? How come that the most shared movies are the ones on the top of the blogbusters list? Could it be that torrent sites work as a good advertishment too? hmmm?

And what about TV series? Let me tell you this; I am Greek living in Greece and I can tell you that greek Tv channels would never buy american TV series, as expencive as they did, if their popularity was not teste on the internet before hand.

And what about all the equipment we use for burning etc? Don’t some of the same companies that are so strict about copyrighing also produce the blank cds/dvds, the burnes, or the divx dvd players?

Hmm, again it sounds like they are making lot of money from that too…

IMO, these companies should stop lawsuiting and follow the trend. If torrent spy can make up to 110000000$, why they dont start sharing their movies online, charge smth like s cents, for a medium quality?
Could it be that they actually don’t loose so much money, but they instead want to suck dry every last penny out of us?

A.

We should all donate money to TorrentSpy and pay off the fine if the appeal doesn’t go through successfully. But let’s make sure to do it after they declare bankruptcy, that way the MPAA gets as little money as possible and TorrentSpy lives on.

They have major polluters that cause cancer in millions of people around the world each year that very very rarely ever get settlements against them anywhere close to this.

It’s a damn shame when someone copies some DVDs and CDs gets fined more than corporations that murder! I’m glad I am not an American today!

Fuck you MPAA Communists.”

wasn´t torrent systems elogiated by countries like venezuela, torrents and the free media is like comunism lol
you should say capitalism ^^

well nvidia supports this also, so tthat means this shit will never end.

In think you’re a little confused, dear. You weren’t laid off of the MAFIAA’s payroll – you’re currently working on their payroll as a hired sockpuppet-slash-cocksucker.

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And seriously get ieSpell, it’s a great free tool and will make you look bright.[/quote]

Aaww… I’m sorry to break this to you, Shortbus, but despite the impeccible spelling, you do infact look like a gurgling retard. So let this be a lessons to all the kids out there; spellchecking can’t disguise that you’re posting from Special Ed. class.

BTW, I’m “borrowing” your name for awhile. I think you won’t mind.

I LOVE DICKS!!!!

WB to the flame war. BTW we’re all still L0L’in @ you.

Are you aware of something called “dinosaurs” ? They died because the couldn’t adapt either…

Agree!

Capitaslism is serving the customer as best as you can and make a profit as a result.

Those who fail in capitalism such as the seven major entertainement companies also shameful members of the RIAA/MPAA, think the they have the right to change the rule just for themselves!

For them the world is collapsing and I will laught my head off once they are all buried under the ruin of their doing!

Ok!

Tell me where you live and we can settle this.

Good! You see we don’t need parasites like you in this country. Go and get yourself a real job that trully benefit the society instead of sucking off the blood of artists and public alike!

Next we will show up with the pest killer to clean or societies off parasites like you! Or your friend might end up with their head on a pic!

And me I pee on her desk and slap her in the face.

Imagine if they would have kept sweeping us under the rug, they would have so much more money right now because it would have never got into the spotlight.

Keep digging your grave MPAA.

A bunch of horses as*es spewing nothing but bulls&it!!”

wot a quote…..lets just laugh in the face of these corporate fatcats cos we all no there no way to stop illegal file sharing!!

the ridiculous fing is that i only download material that i would never consider buying so how is that costing them money? ‘but hey if its free then why not’ is my attitude and that prob the same for millions of other torrenters. Personally i believe this leads to more sales……..Anyway,as said….F*CK MPAA and all they represent!!!

Nuffin but respect to ev1 on the torrent scene!!