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		<title>By: Torrentvalley is dicht &#124; Computertaal</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-518765</link>
		<dc:creator>Torrentvalley is dicht &#124; Computertaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blijkbaar kan of mag dat niet. Het zoveelste bewijs dat justitie er helemaal niet is om ons te beschermen, lijkt me&#8230; Alleen mensen met geld krijgen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blijkbaar kan of mag dat niet. Het zoveelste bewijs dat justitie er helemaal niet is om ons te beschermen, lijkt me&#8230; Alleen mensen met geld krijgen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: warez freak</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-514284</link>
		<dc:creator>warez freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wtf just for sharing jackson videos 
i got a copyright infringement notice from sum organization 
run by morons
the most funniest thing is my blog traffic is less dan 100 a day,i wonder how those suckers got to know abut my blog :O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wtf just for sharing jackson videos<br />
i got a copyright infringement notice from sum organization<br />
run by morons<br />
the most funniest thing is my blog traffic is less dan 100 a day,i wonder how those suckers got to know abut my blog :O</p>
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		<title>By: aquariumfish</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-513909</link>
		<dc:creator>aquariumfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day, it all boils down to were your hosting the site. Thats the only reason Mininova and ThePirateBay are still going. Quite obviously TorrentValley should choosen there hosting country more wisely

http://www.aquariumfish.me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day, it all boils down to were your hosting the site. Thats the only reason Mininova and ThePirateBay are still going. Quite obviously TorrentValley should choosen there hosting country more wisely</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aquariumfish.me" rel="nofollow">http://www.aquariumfish.me</a></p>
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		<title>By: @24</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-513775</link>
		<dc:creator>@24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24 -- My my, aren&#039;t we racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24 &#8212; My my, aren&#8217;t we racist.</p>
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		<title>By: spido</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-513401</link>
		<dc:creator>spido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, raided and shutdown by bulgarian red party cowboys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, raided and shutdown by bulgarian red party cowboys</p>
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		<title>By: TorrentValley shut down in a raid! &#171; Zuphoria Oeuvre</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-513343</link>
		<dc:creator>TorrentValley shut down in a raid! &#171; Zuphoria Oeuvre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is not the first time Bulgarian authorities have acted against BitTorrent sites. In 2006 police arrested the admin of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Internet News Easynetsource Blog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-513340</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet News Easynetsource Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aided the distribution of more than one million copyright infringing files.  This is not the first time Bulgarian authorities have acted against BitTorrent sites. In 2006 police arrested the admin of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TorrentValley Raided and Shut Down &#124; CyberLaw Blog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512768</link>
		<dc:creator>TorrentValley Raided and Shut Down &#124; CyberLaw Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TorrentValley Raided and Shut Down: &#8220; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512674</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another reason to recognize possession as the evil it is, and make it the next revolution after violence and killing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another reason to recognize possession as the evil it is, and make it the next revolution after violence and killing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512607</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and everything I like to watch, is free. Everything I like to listen to is also free. And not free as in I can download it for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and everything I like to watch, is free. Everything I like to listen to is also free. And not free as in I can download it for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512605</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@36 Justice is blind refers to the entire policing process. For example, say I am a police officer and someone very close to me is murdered/robbed/whatever. I will not be part of the investigation team because I have a personal attachment to the investigation: I wanna find the bastard that did it. So its likely that I&#039;ll think most, if not any suspect is guilty right away and my judgement would be clouded. Hell I might even tamper with evidence if I was certain enough that someone did it. Clear example of this is in cases of vigilante justice. A little while ago I think there was a case in which someone was murdered on a trail. The people of the town freaked out, went after someone that was near the area at the time, and I believe it ended in that person getting murdered. But they don&#039;t know if that person did it. You see how personal feelings can cloud things in an investigation?

Here, the entire investigation was handled by the music industry, who has a personal stake in the investigation. They are certain torrent sites are taking billions from them (something that may or may not be true). And since every bit of information about the torrent sites came from them, they can easily mess with the information to make it seem worse than it is.

@43 You&#039;re an idiot. Child porn is illegal. Having child porn is illegal. Therefore sharing child porn is illegal, and downloading child porn is illegal. It&#039;s not JUST information, it&#039;s illegal information.
Watching movies is not illegal. Having movies in your posession is not illegal. Making a copy of a movie and selling it for profit is illegal. Giving a song to a friend for free? Don&#039;t believe that&#039;s illegal, but I bet you&#039;ll think otherwise. If anything, sharing music allows everyone to hear the music, which allows more people to figure out if they want to buy it. I don&#039;t buy CD&#039;s until I know I like every single song in there. If I like 1/12 of the tracks on there, why am I going to dish out $20 for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@36 Justice is blind refers to the entire policing process. For example, say I am a police officer and someone very close to me is murdered/robbed/whatever. I will not be part of the investigation team because I have a personal attachment to the investigation: I wanna find the bastard that did it. So its likely that I&#8217;ll think most, if not any suspect is guilty right away and my judgement would be clouded. Hell I might even tamper with evidence if I was certain enough that someone did it. Clear example of this is in cases of vigilante justice. A little while ago I think there was a case in which someone was murdered on a trail. The people of the town freaked out, went after someone that was near the area at the time, and I believe it ended in that person getting murdered. But they don&#8217;t know if that person did it. You see how personal feelings can cloud things in an investigation?</p>
<p>Here, the entire investigation was handled by the music industry, who has a personal stake in the investigation. They are certain torrent sites are taking billions from them (something that may or may not be true). And since every bit of information about the torrent sites came from them, they can easily mess with the information to make it seem worse than it is.</p>
<p>@43 You&#8217;re an idiot. Child porn is illegal. Having child porn is illegal. Therefore sharing child porn is illegal, and downloading child porn is illegal. It&#8217;s not JUST information, it&#8217;s illegal information.<br />
Watching movies is not illegal. Having movies in your posession is not illegal. Making a copy of a movie and selling it for profit is illegal. Giving a song to a friend for free? Don&#8217;t believe that&#8217;s illegal, but I bet you&#8217;ll think otherwise. If anything, sharing music allows everyone to hear the music, which allows more people to figure out if they want to buy it. I don&#8217;t buy CD&#8217;s until I know I like every single song in there. If I like 1/12 of the tracks on there, why am I going to dish out $20 for it?</p>
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		<title>By: gramer</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512599</link>
		<dc:creator>gramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@43

&quot;Nope, your so wrong. By your reasoning child porn should be able to be shared: after all, it’s only information right?&quot;

How am I wrong?  Did you read the part you quoted about the majority of people accepting those who casually download?  

The majority of people in EVERY country does not accept downloading kiddie porn.  Besides if that&#039;s the only argument to the statement it&#039;s a fairly weak one.

I still stand by my statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@43</p>
<p>&#8220;Nope, your so wrong. By your reasoning child porn should be able to be shared: after all, it’s only information right?&#8221;</p>
<p>How am I wrong?  Did you read the part you quoted about the majority of people accepting those who casually download?  </p>
<p>The majority of people in EVERY country does not accept downloading kiddie porn.  Besides if that&#8217;s the only argument to the statement it&#8217;s a fairly weak one.</p>
<p>I still stand by my statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512593</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that Bulgarian authorities can&#039;t find evidences on their own. And they beg civil organizations to do authorities work and to provide fabricated evidences. Or in other words it seems like civil organizations order authorities what to do maybe civil authorities paying their salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that Bulgarian authorities can&#8217;t find evidences on their own. And they beg civil organizations to do authorities work and to provide fabricated evidences. Or in other words it seems like civil organizations order authorities what to do maybe civil authorities paying their salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Vonne</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512591</link>
		<dc:creator>Vonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If torrent indexers are illegal why the hell then they don&#039;t go after Google? Google has armies of lawyers to protect them from these moron four letter agencies and also tons of money...That&#039;s why. Unfair isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If torrent indexers are illegal why the hell then they don&#8217;t go after Google? Google has armies of lawyers to protect them from these moron four letter agencies and also tons of money&#8230;That&#8217;s why. Unfair isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: TorrentValley shutdown! &#124; Startup Meme - Technology Startup and Latest Tech News</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512581</link>
		<dc:creator>TorrentValley shutdown! &#124; Startup Meme - Technology Startup and Latest Tech News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cyber Crime Unit in Bulgaria raided the TorrentValley office, seizing the countless servers plus putting a lock on the site. The action had been taken by the Bulgarian authorities upon the provided evidence from the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Le site de liens BitTorrent TorrentValley fermé par les autorités bulgares &#124; traffic-internet.net</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512570</link>
		<dc:creator>Le site de liens BitTorrent TorrentValley fermé par les autorités bulgares &#124; traffic-internet.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] populaires au monde, a été fermé par les autorités bulgares. Les serveurs du site ont été saisis en collaboration avec les services de l&#8217;Association Bulgare des Producteurs de Musique, qui [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] populaires au monde, a été fermé par les autorités bulgares. Les serveurs du site ont été saisis en collaboration avec les services de l&#8217;Association Bulgare des Producteurs de Musique, qui [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pink panther</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512561</link>
		<dc:creator>pink panther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a jaw-dropping, insanity-causing turn of events. ---BULGARIA--- doesn&#039;t want Free World-wide Publicity for its MUSIC INDUSTRY!? Before this story broke, would one in a billion non-Bulgarians know there WAS a BULGARIAN MUSIC INDUSTRY!? They couldn&#039;t BUY publicity like this. They&#039;re getting the ONLY AVENUE OF PUBLICITY THAT THE BULGARIAN MUSIC INDUSTRY HAS EVER KNOWN -SHUT- -DOWN- !?

The world has finally gone nuts. I&#039;m glad I was there to see it. Maybe Indiana Whoever can move to Bulgaria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a jaw-dropping, insanity-causing turn of events. &#8212;BULGARIA&#8212; doesn&#8217;t want Free World-wide Publicity for its MUSIC INDUSTRY!? Before this story broke, would one in a billion non-Bulgarians know there WAS a BULGARIAN MUSIC INDUSTRY!? They couldn&#8217;t BUY publicity like this. They&#8217;re getting the ONLY AVENUE OF PUBLICITY THAT THE BULGARIAN MUSIC INDUSTRY HAS EVER KNOWN -SHUT- -DOWN- !?</p>
<p>The world has finally gone nuts. I&#8217;m glad I was there to see it. Maybe Indiana Whoever can move to Bulgaria.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512560</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@44 : wHOA, i&#039;M SURE THEY ARE QUAKING IN THEIR BOOTS because you made a veiled threat.  I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll stop everything they are doing.

You freaking dickless, spineless, brainless, fag loving poofta idiot shithead.  Piss off, your a retard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@44 : wHOA, i&#8217;M SURE THEY ARE QUAKING IN THEIR BOOTS because you made a veiled threat.  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll stop everything they are doing.</p>
<p>You freaking dickless, spineless, brainless, fag loving poofta idiot shithead.  Piss off, your a retard.</p>
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		<title>By: TorrentValley Raided and Shut Down &#183; Reallyfirst.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512559</link>
		<dc:creator>TorrentValley Raided and Shut Down &#183; Reallyfirst.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Glickman Will Be My Bitch!</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/torrentvalley-shut-down-081112/#comment-512556</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Glickman Will Be My Bitch!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the industry shills are in attendance tonight.

To IFPI, Davenport-Lyons, RIAA, MPAA, BPI, and the rest of you douchebags.....

How long do you think you can keep harassing and pushing before people push back and push back hard? 

Before you have to pay a personal price for your actions?

Just something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the industry shills are in attendance tonight.</p>
<p>To IFPI, Davenport-Lyons, RIAA, MPAA, BPI, and the rest of you douchebags&#8230;..</p>
<p>How long do you think you can keep harassing and pushing before people push back and push back hard? </p>
<p>Before you have to pay a personal price for your actions?</p>
<p>Just something to think about.</p>
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