Torrentz Shuts Down Torrent’Em For Copyright Infringement
Written by Ernesto on January 28, 2008Torrentz.com, the largest and fastest BitTorrent meta-search engine has shut down Torrent’Em for alleged copyright infringement. It turns out that the flash based search engine we wrote about a few days ago, was using Torrentz’ data, without permission.
Most of the time when we write about BitTorrent sites that are put out of action it’s because of alleged copyright infringement. This time is similar, but with a key difference.
Torrent’Em is not accused of infringement by the entertainment industry, but by Torrentz, a fellow meta-search engine. The site is still online at the moment, but you won’t get any results when you try to do a search.
Flippy, the admin of Torrentz noticed a lot of search requests from the same source over the past few days. He soon discovered that the requests came from Torrent’Em, who simply fetched all data they needed from his site in real-time. So, every time someone search for something on Torrent’Em, he or she actually got a reformatted search result from Torrentz, without attributing the source of the data.
Copyright infringement, nothing more, nothing less. BitTorrent sites use each others data all the time, but not like this of course, since it puts a lot of strain on the Torrentz servers. “If he asked me nicely, I would have prepared a feed for him so he could use that”, Torrentz admin Flippy told TorrentFreak, who accused Torrent’Em of copyright infringement.
Torrent’em didn’t ask anything though, and Flippy had no other option than to block all the proxies Torrent’Em is using. This pretty much takes the whole site out of business, since there are no search results to display anymore.
Carlos, the admin of Torrent’Em was not available to comment, and it is unsure whether his site will be back.
Update: Torrent’Em now links back to Torrentz who lifted the ban. And they lived happily ever after.
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Hmm, I don’t understand why he just didn’t ask in the first place? Oh well, still have the other site anyway.
Too bad for Torrentem :)
of course, torrentem use a P3 server and trying to make huge $ from torrentz search engine for free LoL
any way. good cheat :)
What is not clear in the article is whether Torrent’Em actually accused them of copyright infringement (as the intro states) or whether they just blocked their IPs (as the article states) because it was putting too much strain on their servers.
funny one..lol
lazy unimaginative tools.
[quote comment="274303"]What is not clear in the article is whether Torrent’Em actually accused them of copyright infringement (as the intro states) or whether they just blocked their IPs (as the article states) because it was putting too much strain on their servers.[/quote]
Well, Flippy called it copyright infringement ;)
Added it to the article
Ironicly.
Now ILOVETORRENTS.com is down.
Fucking torrentz and shut down them as torrentz itself uses resources from tpb,mininova and all the other torrentsites to get results then torrentz is just as bad as torrentem since they actually do the same thingy and doesnt torrentsites support piracy? i will sure never use torrentz !
Oh, the irony.
youtorrent ftw
torrentz re-directs the user to the actual site the user decided to click on.. unlike torrentem that never re-direct any traffic to torrentz..
Scrapetorrent ftw.
torrent sites crying about infringement, please die.
[quote comment="274335"]torrentz re-directs the user to the actual site the user decided to click on.. unlike torrentem that never re-direct any traffic to torrentz..[/quote]
And Torrentz doesn’t pull data from external sites for every search. Torrentz actually works together with Mininova, TPB etc.
[quote comment="274319"]Fucking torrentz and shut down them as torrentz itself uses resources from tpb,mininova and all the other torrentsites to get results then torrentz is just as bad as torrentem since they actually do the same thingy and doesnt torrentsites support piracy? i will sure never use torrentz ![/quote]
thats exactly what a meta search engline is for….and unlike torrent’em, torrentz tells you the source of the torrents
who the fuck cares if they tell you the source of the download?
its like the scene would tell who is their source and his name ffs!
and i agree with #14 please die torrentz, whining about the same thing you actually do!
[quote comment="274319"]
[...]torrentz is just as bad as torrentem since they actually do the same thingy and doesnt torrentsites support piracy? i will sure never use torrentz ![/quote]
We sure will miss you, dimbulb…
Torrentz.com is one of my go-to guys. For indexers, it’s one of the best IMO.
Read between the lines people. A looser abuses my servers, I add some humor and irony to the fact and call it copyright infringement.
Not (c)-infringement at all. Just lame by torrent’em. They deserve to get “shut down” (which probably mean their ips were just banned from using torrentz search results).
Write your articles better torrentfreak. This one was a joke.
[quote comment="274359"]Read between the lines people. A looser abuses my servers, I add some humor and irony to the fact and call it copyright infringement.[/quote]
You still is as bad as torrentem as u use tpb,mn and all the others resources to earn money to your own website that just makes me sick…
Not asking is bad…
yeah he makes money but he also has the permission from those sites and offers the end user a wider selection of torrents. I see no harm in that. Handling that much bandwidth is expensive I bet he doesn’t make that much.
[quote comment="274337"]torrent sites crying about infringement, please die.[/quote]
Hes not crying about infrigment dumbnuts
hes complaining about them using his site to power theirs without asking
And since you dint bother with reading the article here are the lines you need to read:
BitTorrent sites use each others data all the time, but not like this of course, since it puts a lot of strain on the Torrentz servers.
“If he asked me nicely, I would have prepared a feed for him so he could use that” – said the Torrentz admin Flippy
who cares if he asked or not? its still the same thing.. and i dont think torrentz has the right to use every torrentsite it indexes…
Ok… so it puts stress on the server and you would have been willing to create a special feed for him if he asked.
Perhaps that would have changed the results received or how they were show. ..
Or
Site owner just feels that piracy is piracy no matter how its displayed.
Either way, making money off someone else’s work is bullshit.
@9, bitbull bread, oh, i will miss you, too. But i want to help you to find the way back.
If X (X=Torrent’Em) is a program, site or service or ever telling, what it is doing, where the data come from, telling this is a better(new) interface for a service, is is ok. People will look, use, decide.
But letting the people think, this should be a new search engine – no, this is not the right way for me.
“Either way, making money off someone else’s work is bullshit”
torrentem was just doing as every pirate does! torrentz is paying for server+bandwidght ( like the movie studio) and torrentem (the pirate) is using some of his bandwidht (just like torrenz is doing on tpb) so why did he ban hes ass when he did something good for the community (totally flash based torrentsearcher)?
What’s good for the community about a crappy flash interface on top of data that already exists elsewhere?
#29
more easy to use maybe?
Some comments here are priceless. For indexer torrentz is da shit.
And torrent’em must be a fucking joke if he needs “steal” the whole searchfunction from another site without even asking or stating were the results comes from.
And all you who says this is a good way, the real pirate way, of doing things, actually stress other servers and “stealing” bandwidth from another site. You guys really need to think about the concept of piracy. It’s about sharing. To grab results and take bandwidth from someone without asking, hmm, I see that as stealing. It’s not sharing at least.
+ LEARN TO FUCKING READ!
Go Go Flippy! Thanks for a great indexer!
Perhaps, but when I tried it out it was significantly slower. And it wasn’t that much easier to use (no difference at all, actually).
[quote comment="274337"]torrent sites crying about infringement, please die.[/quote]
Completely agree. This is fucking pointless. Fuck torrentz. Their entire website is BASED UPON COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF ITS USERS.
a pirate stealing from a pirate is a backstabber (a ninja if you may)
a pirate that asks a pirate for help is a smart pirate
I hope you all see the analogy here :)
All torrent metasearch sites cross index each other, that is true. But they store those information on their own database and search results are obtained locally.
If every search query on Torrent’Em has to be passed to Torrentz, then Torrentz is getting its bandwidth and CPU cycles used up without even being credited. This isn’t piracy, this is stealing, because Torrentz actually loses bandwidth and CPU cycles as a result.
This is not copyright infringement of course, but this is certainly not “what everyone else is doing” either.
A pirate that accuses another pirate of copyright infringment is a fucking hippocrate of the highest order, wether said in some lame attemt to be funny or not. Flippy, you take the proverbial, I hope some day karma works it way back to you. THAT would be funny.
that sucks torent’em was awesome and no offense but torrentz looks like shit
It’s incredible how illiterate/dumb some people are. Talking about the copyright infringement was, as Flippy said, ironic comment and a funny one imo.
I would do the exact same thing if I was him and somebody was stealing my bandwidth and cpu cycles.
HA HA HA, I THOUGHT ALL YOU THIEVES WERE AGAINST COPYRIGHT? WHAT A JOKE!!!
FUCK YOU ALL YOU ARE ALL THIEVES!!
VIVA LA GFY.COM
EMULE 4EVER !!
EMULE EMULE EMULEEE !!!!!!
“that sucks torent’em was awesome and no offense but torrentz looks like shit”
you guys are fucking stupid.
because you are stuuupid-Dexter
The irony of it all. its overwhelming.
this is not about data this is about PERMISSION. you wanna use someone’s bandwidth, memory and clock-cycles, you ASK first. lots of torrent sites co-operate but this was done in very bad taste.
http://www.streamsense.net/torrentem.png
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
Torrentz ownz. Torrent em fails.
[quote comment="274838"]this is not about data this is about PERMISSION. you wanna use someone’s bandwidth, memory and clock-cycles, you ASK first. lots of torrent sites co-operate but this was done in very bad taste.[/quote]
So you have permission to get the last copy of a movie for free? i dont think so because in both cases they are losing money becouse of it and torrentz did the exact opposite of what the pirate idea is all about !
SO TORRENTZ CAN PUT A KNIFE IN THEIR OWN BACK!
Okey this beggins to looks just like the MAFIAA style, i mean torrentsite shutting down another torrents site because he used hes source? isnt this
the exact opposite of what we pirates want?
Also how did he manage to know that torrentem used his data if hes privacy policy looks like this?
Privacy Policy
1. We do not log.
2. We are not interested in what you do online.
I have a very suspicous feeling about this “flippy”, I mean he has a whole site that publishes links to torrents that help people download copyrighted material and when one off us uses hes source for something good, flippy does the exact same as the MAAFIA… If i were you guys i wouldnt use that site anymore since he has proven that he is one of “them” and also do logs ips and is interested of what we are doing online.
//Gursarn
He should have asked…. but still? a torrent indexing site stopping for “copyright infringement”?!?!?! How hypocritical can you get?!!!!!
Nah… THis site does not work here… I use youtorrent !
just found this link on bbc,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7213112.stm
Dude its not just copyright infringement, they are hotlinking torrentz resources and basically taking all of torrentz resources and not having any revenue sharing. Servers cost money, contrary to popular belief by p2pers who think everything is free pysical servers cost money. I am sure torrentz would have given them a stream if they paid their share.
Ok basically they are running a site on a shitty server and putting ads on it and compensating by hijacking someone else’s resources.
I find it stupid for 1 BT website to be fighting against another. We are all in this thing together, and unity is the key. There was no need for public drama, im glad how this all ended and applaud the Torrentz staff.
They still log your ip and is intrested in what you doing on their site.
so if pirates are infrigement copyrights it’s BAD, but when one son of the bitch from torrent scene infrigement copyright from other son of bitch is’s OKAY
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLZ!!!!
huh? I don’t understand anything you said real motherfucker. Try speaking in English.
Glad to see it all worked out!
Hey dude i can browse tru torrentz.com,
why the fuck your are taking guys in a wrong direction
Torrentz.com, the largest and fastest BitTorrent meta-search engine has shut down Torrent’Em for alleged copyright infringement.
http://www.site-aanmelden.com/maatschappij/feestdagen/index2.php
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