What evidence was shown to them? How did they get caught? Are the oink user database and logs freely readable? Is any one else in the firing line? What preventative measures should an oink user take before there’s a knock on the door? etc.

You do what we do. Run! I mean you run your arse off.

What evidence was shown to them? How did they get caught? Are the oink user database and logs freely readable? Is any one else in the firing line? What preventative measures should an oink user take before there’s a knock on the door? etc.

Whilst I totally agree with you (i.e. drop all charges, let them go), Defraud does NOT mean the opposite of fraud, no. It means to get something by fraud.

I will return the music that I borrowed one day. Hopefully I won’t forget.

Copyright infringement is like crap. People take one in the toilet and flush it away and not ever see it again.

“cd’s down the front, but if you don’t have any money just get a copy off your friends. Its not stealing, its generosity”

refreshing to hear a fairly big band speaking some sense

JT
http://www.FireME.To/udi

I know TF wants to be taken seriously as a news source, and this type of sloppy writing looks amateurish.

The problem is that the media corporations have been granting themselves more and more “rights” while taking away the rights of consumers. Copyrights were originally intended to apply for a LIMITED time. Now, corporations have gotten them extended so that they last for the life of the artist plus 90 years. NOthing created in my lifetime will ever pass into the public domain. Speaking of the public domain, some of Disney’s most successful movies have been based on works that passed into the public domain, but yet Disney has fought tooth and nail to keep anything they’ve ever created from becoming public domain.

Want to import a DVD from another country? No problem! Want to play it? Big problem! Thanks to region codes, the majority of people can’t play DVDs from other countries. The movie industry claims that’s to protect a movie before it’s released in other countries. If that’s true, why is an American mini-series from the 1970s protected by a region code? And why was it only released in England??? IN case you’re wondering, the mini-series in question is Rich Man, Poor Man, which a friend of mine actually wanted to buy.

Why can I record shows off TV, but not download them from the internet?

Why do software companies get to dictate what I can do with their product after I pay for it? Does Toyota tell you what you can and can’t do with your new car?

Digital distribution costs almost nothing compared to producing a tradional package, so why haven’t the movie studios and record companies put their entire back catalogs online for sale? The pirates have been doing just that for years, but the movie and music industry are still dragging their feet and insist on crippling their digital products with DRM. Music is slowly coming around, but the movie industry still thinks people will “buy” files that are locked down and need to rely on a remote server to tell your system it has permission to play them.

Look at the war against file sharing? Nobody in the movie or music industry looks at file sharing and says “How can we stop the infringement of our works without impacting the legal uses of the network?” All they want to know is “How can we kill this?” Just like they tried to do with the VCR, just like they pretty much succeeded with Digital Audio Tapes in American, just like they tried to do with the MP3 player, etc.

I see file sharing as a way to equalize the playing field. If I can’t buy a copy of the show Freakylinks from Fox, why shouldn’t I download it?

have you read the comments about The Dark Knight on the torrents? it’s like the warner brothers themselves are jumping up and down in glee!

too stuck up to even be grateful.

i dont get it, never heard defraud as being bad before in my life.. defraud is the oposite of fraud, if someone makes a fraud, you can defraud him etc.. i mean why cant we defraud the industry? whats wrong with that? their the ones frauding people..

“Laying low” and not caring about others is the simplest way towards disaster. Simply put, we should all care, and all take action.

Here is a simple discussion board:
http://www.28chan.org/fs/

If we didnt get to DL the files the chances are fairly strong we WOULD NOT buy it anyway, so how is that a lost sale?

On the flip side,if i DL some decent new music and actually like it, chances are, i will buy the cd for my collection, or even go to a concert, or both.

In the years before the internet, this same deal was acheived by kids lending each other music, if you liked what you were lent you might be tempted to buy it yourself. It seems the way things are going now kids wont be able to listen to their friends cds for fear of the parents ending up in court, how dumb can you get?

You see, if the music cartel paused for just 1 moment and got their heads out thier asses, they would realise the internet is one hell of a huge marketing tool for their artists if only they would adapt their business model to suit.

Times change, either your business must change with it, or you will eventually go out of business no matter how many officials you buy off, if you have no customers, you have no business.

Because we do.

“What makes you think you have this right and that the labels/artists should not be able to charge what they want.”

They can charge what they want. I’ll buy it if it is a good enough price for me, if not, I will download it or go without it.