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		<title>By: Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes - P2P Talk?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes - P2P Talk?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] carry some weight. Whether or not it will be enough to convince the Peter Mandelson&#8217;s and Sion Simon&#8217;s of the government, remains to be [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ 9 Oct 03, 2009 at 16:28 by David

    @4 he is an MP he must read and reply to all e-mails, his e-mail is simons@parliament.uk I would recommend telling him to research file sharing technology, he is very ignorant.

...so are you, he is only obliged to respond to his constituents and your contact information is vetted before a response (ie they check you ARE in his constituancy and exist) and even then it will be an aide that responds on his behalf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 9 Oct 03, 2009 at 16:28 by David</p>
<p>    @4 he is an MP he must read and reply to all e-mails, his e-mail is <a href="mailto:simons@parliament.uk">simons@parliament.uk</a> I would recommend telling him to research file sharing technology, he is very ignorant.</p>
<p>&#8230;so are you, he is only obliged to respond to his constituents and your contact information is vetted before a response (ie they check you ARE in his constituancy and exist) and even then it will be an aide that responds on his behalf</p>
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		<title>By: 00110011</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another fucking clueless/twat for an MP.

Society should be throwing these fuckers out! along with the rest of the spineless or corrupt scumbags in power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another fucking clueless/twat for an MP.</p>
<p>Society should be throwing these fuckers out! along with the rest of the spineless or corrupt scumbags in power.</p>
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		<title>By: fight_the_tyranny</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you expect? His whole reason to exist is to serve the interest of the copyright MAFIAA. That is the purpose of the department of culture and media, to repeat verbatim the press releases and opinions of the MAFIAA. This of course all payed for courtesy of my and many other&#039;s taxes. How very nice for them. State funded monopoly enforcement service for the copyright elite provided for free by the people they persecute!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect? His whole reason to exist is to serve the interest of the copyright MAFIAA. That is the purpose of the department of culture and media, to repeat verbatim the press releases and opinions of the MAFIAA. This of course all payed for courtesy of my and many other&#8217;s taxes. How very nice for them. State funded monopoly enforcement service for the copyright elite provided for free by the people they persecute!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[like so many politicians, he doesn&#039;t understand how file sharing works or the p2p technology. he has opened his mouth before his brain is in gear, spouting complete bullshit without doing any research on a subject that is completely new to him. in an effort to disguise his ignorance he has taken the word of the music/movie/copyright industry and not even listened to any evidence or argument from the &#039;opposite&#039; side. the biggest mistake he has made is to forget that it is not those industries that elect a government, it is the general public. money may be gotten from them to assist in so-called electoral campaignes, but the eventual vote is from the people. piss them off enough and a hiding can be expected. with the labour party a long way behind in the polls, the last thing they need atm is something else to help them down the slippery slope even quicker. pandering to the whims of those industries is not going to save them or him in the next election, regardless of what &#039;incentives&#039; might be received. the same thing applies to Miliband and Mandelson!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like so many politicians, he doesn&#8217;t understand how file sharing works or the p2p technology. he has opened his mouth before his brain is in gear, spouting complete bullshit without doing any research on a subject that is completely new to him. in an effort to disguise his ignorance he has taken the word of the music/movie/copyright industry and not even listened to any evidence or argument from the &#8216;opposite&#8217; side. the biggest mistake he has made is to forget that it is not those industries that elect a government, it is the general public. money may be gotten from them to assist in so-called electoral campaignes, but the eventual vote is from the people. piss them off enough and a hiding can be expected. with the labour party a long way behind in the polls, the last thing they need atm is something else to help them down the slippery slope even quicker. pandering to the whims of those industries is not going to save them or him in the next election, regardless of what &#8216;incentives&#8217; might be received. the same thing applies to Miliband and Mandelson!</p>
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		<title>By: HO</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UK 3-Strikes MP Ignorant on File-Sharing &#124; TorrentFreak [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: UK 3-Strikes MP Ignorant on File-Sharing - P2Pfreak.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK 3-Strikes MP Ignorant on File-Sharing - P2Pfreak.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UK 3-Strikes MP Ignorant on File-Sharing     The UK has been consulting over proposals to deal with file-sharing, but it appears to have been an empty gesture. Speaking the day after the consultation closed, the MP in charge is already keen to move against P2P, noting the necessity of it during interview. If only his reasons for for doing so were based in truth.  More here [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UK 3-Strikes MP Ignorant on File-Sharing     The UK has been consulting over proposals to deal with file-sharing, but it appears to have been an empty gesture. Speaking the day after the consultation closed, the MP in charge is already keen to move against P2P, noting the necessity of it during interview. If only his reasons for for doing so were based in truth.  More here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kirth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[..

This is all drivenby the smell of money.

BEFORE, corporations DIDN&#039;T KNOW how to monetize the tech. NOW they think they have an enormous untapped stream of CASH and they want to get on top of it for the CORPORATIONS BENEFIT. 

And PART of that is CLOSING this tech to PUBLIC USE. You can funnel all the MONEY in ONE DIRECTION without LAWS to &quot;protect&quot; this newly found &quot;property&quot;.

Musicians have realized that records companies are parasites who aren&#039;t NEEDED to distribute music, and soon motion picture production will bypass the movie studios.

And THAT is what they are trying to get ahead of.

..]]></description>
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<p>This is all drivenby the smell of money.</p>
<p>BEFORE, corporations DIDN&#8217;T KNOW how to monetize the tech. NOW they think they have an enormous untapped stream of CASH and they want to get on top of it for the CORPORATIONS BENEFIT. </p>
<p>And PART of that is CLOSING this tech to PUBLIC USE. You can funnel all the MONEY in ONE DIRECTION without LAWS to &#8220;protect&#8221; this newly found &#8220;property&#8221;.</p>
<p>Musicians have realized that records companies are parasites who aren&#8217;t NEEDED to distribute music, and soon motion picture production will bypass the movie studios.</p>
<p>And THAT is what they are trying to get ahead of.</p>
<p>..</p>
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		<title>By: Bobe-On (Profiteering)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobe-On (Profiteering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[quote = 50 Oct 04, 2009 at 02:12 by Mystik]without a profit incentive what would are level of technology be like today? With all the creative people busy doing other things it would most certainly be much lower. Would the Microwave, Cell phone, or Internet even exist...[/quote]

Says you? 
With all the creative people doing other things, one could argue that we might have far superior technology by now, given a different, say, socially-supportive, collaborative model.
I would be careful about confusing profit with money, and with one notion of profit versus many others. Also, I&#039;d suggest that cooperation/collaboration may be a superior incentive than competition, despite the latter apparently being drilled into everyone&#039;s skulls by those who might be more likely to profit by the brainwash. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiteering_(business)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote = 50 Oct 04, 2009 at 02:12 by Mystik]without a profit incentive what would are level of technology be like today? With all the creative people busy doing other things it would most certainly be much lower. Would the Microwave, Cell phone, or Internet even exist&#8230;[/quote]</p>
<p>Says you?<br />
With all the creative people doing other things, one could argue that we might have far superior technology by now, given a different, say, socially-supportive, collaborative model.<br />
I would be careful about confusing profit with money, and with one notion of profit versus many others. Also, I&#8217;d suggest that cooperation/collaboration may be a superior incentive than competition, despite the latter apparently being drilled into everyone&#8217;s skulls by those who might be more likely to profit by the brainwash. ;)</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiteering_(business)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiteering_(business)</a></p>
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		<title>By: linux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[linux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Think about this, without a profit incentive what would are level of technology be like today? With all the creative people busy doing other things it would most certainly be much lower. Would the Microwave, Cell phone, or Internet even exist? How different is certainly something that would create a debate to last forever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I find it disturbing that people think IP laws are the only way to stimulate innovation when it is not a more powerful stimulant is &quot;survival&quot;. Linux exist because competition and the ever present need to cut costs. One big driver of innovation is war that brought us to the space age, created the internet, microwaves and etc. It was not greed that gave us those things and you can even say that war is saving lifes with heavy investment in regenerative research so soldiers don&#039;t come back mangled and deformed. Greed is not the only stimulus for innovation is part of a complex set and that cast serious doubt on the assumption that we wouldn&#039;t have any of those things we have today. Maybe if it was not for IP laws and copyright we would have a better system then today for creation of innovation that don&#039;t disappear with the end of a company, maybe we would have thousands of producers instead of one, that would not affect the economy if it was going to fail, maybe we could have WiFi everywhere already if people didn&#039;t keep suing other people thatwould offer the services the people want. Survival is why countries that have no way of enforcing IP laws grow at accelerated rates and only start slowing down well big players emerge on that market and start poisoning the system. 

Very big players with IP laws stop advancements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Think about this, without a profit incentive what would are level of technology be like today? With all the creative people busy doing other things it would most certainly be much lower. Would the Microwave, Cell phone, or Internet even exist? How different is certainly something that would create a debate to last forever.</p></blockquote>
<p>I find it disturbing that people think IP laws are the only way to stimulate innovation when it is not a more powerful stimulant is &#8220;survival&#8221;. Linux exist because competition and the ever present need to cut costs. One big driver of innovation is war that brought us to the space age, created the internet, microwaves and etc. It was not greed that gave us those things and you can even say that war is saving lifes with heavy investment in regenerative research so soldiers don&#8217;t come back mangled and deformed. Greed is not the only stimulus for innovation is part of a complex set and that cast serious doubt on the assumption that we wouldn&#8217;t have any of those things we have today. Maybe if it was not for IP laws and copyright we would have a better system then today for creation of innovation that don&#8217;t disappear with the end of a company, maybe we would have thousands of producers instead of one, that would not affect the economy if it was going to fail, maybe we could have WiFi everywhere already if people didn&#8217;t keep suing other people thatwould offer the services the people want. Survival is why countries that have no way of enforcing IP laws grow at accelerated rates and only start slowing down well big players emerge on that market and start poisoning the system. </p>
<p>Very big players with IP laws stop advancements.</p>
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