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		<title>By: loving DLs wives and daughters</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-bittorrent-users-under-more-pressure-from-lawyers-080111/#comment-424271</link>
		<dc:creator>loving DLs wives and daughters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to what I have written above it seems all they have is a list of names associated with IP addresses through which the alleged incidents occurred. In other words they can trace events as far as your broadband modem. What happened after that is anybody&#039;s guess including theirs. It is impossible for them to  prove the internal IP or MAC address of the PC which contains the files and also who owns or was operating the PC at the time of the alleged offence. They know this and that is why they are attempting to frighten people by claiming it is the bill payer&#039;s responsibility. I am unable to find anything to support this claim. 
If there is UK law regarding domestic wireless network security then surely your internet provider would need to make you aware of this when you subscribe. Providers may strongly recommend you do so to protect your personal data but in the case of my friends broadband provider, nothing they communicated to him stated it was a legal requirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to what I have written above it seems all they have is a list of names associated with IP addresses through which the alleged incidents occurred. In other words they can trace events as far as your broadband modem. What happened after that is anybody&#8217;s guess including theirs. It is impossible for them to  prove the internal IP or MAC address of the PC which contains the files and also who owns or was operating the PC at the time of the alleged offence. They know this and that is why they are attempting to frighten people by claiming it is the bill payer&#8217;s responsibility. I am unable to find anything to support this claim.<br />
If there is UK law regarding domestic wireless network security then surely your internet provider would need to make you aware of this when you subscribe. Providers may strongly recommend you do so to protect your personal data but in the case of my friends broadband provider, nothing they communicated to him stated it was a legal requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: loving DLs wives and daughters</title>
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		<dc:creator>loving DLs wives and daughters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been dealing with a similar letter a friend received at one of his properties he hasn&#039;t lived in for some time. The &#039;evidence&#039; they have presented points to the bill payer and does not prove, in my opinion, that he was responsible. He wouldn&#039;t know how to use the damn thing even if he did live there.

The letter makes reference to sections of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. It seems that they have embellished on what the Act actually says to add more crap-your-pants factor to the letter.
The problem I have with what DL have written (please be aware I am not a lawyer but have south some legal advice) is firstly how they have interpreted sections of the Act and secondly the inclusion of words in brackets which do not appear anywhere in the Act. In fact there is a section of the Act that contradicts their interpretation. 
Please excuse my vagueness.  I&#039;d love to publicly challenge their arguments but I would be very surprised if DL aren&#039;t monitoring these discussions regarding their &#039;work&#039; in order to mask the gaping holes in the next batch of letters. It would appear from earlier letters I&#039;ve seen they are now covering a lot more ground.

If law states it is the responsibility of the internet subscriber to secure the wireless network and they are liable for the wrong doing of others through that service (in the cases of network hijacking etc.) why is free public wi-fi so readily available? Have corporations such as Starbucks not done their homework? Is local government flouting the law by making the internet freely available in public libraries? I&#039;d say unlikely.
I suppose what I&#039;m trying to say is without DL knowing who actually carried out these alleged acts (as opposed to who subscribes to the internet service) how can they bring a case to court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been dealing with a similar letter a friend received at one of his properties he hasn&#8217;t lived in for some time. The &#8216;evidence&#8217; they have presented points to the bill payer and does not prove, in my opinion, that he was responsible. He wouldn&#8217;t know how to use the damn thing even if he did live there.</p>
<p>The letter makes reference to sections of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. It seems that they have embellished on what the Act actually says to add more crap-your-pants factor to the letter.<br />
The problem I have with what DL have written (please be aware I am not a lawyer but have south some legal advice) is firstly how they have interpreted sections of the Act and secondly the inclusion of words in brackets which do not appear anywhere in the Act. In fact there is a section of the Act that contradicts their interpretation.<br />
Please excuse my vagueness.  I&#8217;d love to publicly challenge their arguments but I would be very surprised if DL aren&#8217;t monitoring these discussions regarding their &#8216;work&#8217; in order to mask the gaping holes in the next batch of letters. It would appear from earlier letters I&#8217;ve seen they are now covering a lot more ground.</p>
<p>If law states it is the responsibility of the internet subscriber to secure the wireless network and they are liable for the wrong doing of others through that service (in the cases of network hijacking etc.) why is free public wi-fi so readily available? Have corporations such as Starbucks not done their homework? Is local government flouting the law by making the internet freely available in public libraries? I&#8217;d say unlikely.<br />
I suppose what I&#8217;m trying to say is without DL knowing who actually carried out these alleged acts (as opposed to who subscribes to the internet service) how can they bring a case to court?</p>
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		<title>By: scared2fcuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>scared2fcuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>German court: P2P lawsuits are unconstitutional
06/12 2008 &#124; 03:23 PM
Posted by: Janko Roettgers
A German court has recently found that the evidence used in the country&#039;s tens of thousands of file sharing lawsuits is obtained in an unconstitutional way. The Frankenthal district court threw out a lawsuit against a defendant that was sued for sharing a video game on a file sharing network, according to heise.de.

The lawsuit was based on evidence obtained by the swiss Anti-piracy outlet Logistep, which provided rights holders with the IP address of the defendant. A law office working for the rights holder used the IP address to start a criminal complaint. Prosecutors requested the name of the defendant from a major German ISP and shared it with rights holders, who then started another civil lawsuit against the defendant - a controversial but common practice in Germany that has led to tens of thousands of lawsuits as well as completely overwhelmed prosecutors.

The court now found that the ISP wasn&#039;t allowed to give out the name of the defendant because file sharing doesn&#039;t count as a serious criminal offense. Handing over the name and address of the defendant violated his constitutional right to privacy. There is no common law in Germany, so this decision won&#039;t immediately affect other pending file sharing lawsuits, but it&#039;s quite possible that other defendants will get inspired by this decision to also try their luck in court, and that sooner or later we&#039;ll see one of those cases in front of the German Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German court: P2P lawsuits are unconstitutional<br />
06/12 2008 | 03:23 PM<br />
Posted by: Janko Roettgers<br />
A German court has recently found that the evidence used in the country&#8217;s tens of thousands of file sharing lawsuits is obtained in an unconstitutional way. The Frankenthal district court threw out a lawsuit against a defendant that was sued for sharing a video game on a file sharing network, according to heise.de.</p>
<p>The lawsuit was based on evidence obtained by the swiss Anti-piracy outlet Logistep, which provided rights holders with the IP address of the defendant. A law office working for the rights holder used the IP address to start a criminal complaint. Prosecutors requested the name of the defendant from a major German ISP and shared it with rights holders, who then started another civil lawsuit against the defendant &#8211; a controversial but common practice in Germany that has led to tens of thousands of lawsuits as well as completely overwhelmed prosecutors.</p>
<p>The court now found that the ISP wasn&#8217;t allowed to give out the name of the defendant because file sharing doesn&#8217;t count as a serious criminal offense. Handing over the name and address of the defendant violated his constitutional right to privacy. There is no common law in Germany, so this decision won&#8217;t immediately affect other pending file sharing lawsuits, but it&#8217;s quite possible that other defendants will get inspired by this decision to also try their luck in court, and that sooner or later we&#8217;ll see one of those cases in front of the German Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: nlove94965</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In another note to my last one, I also havent downloaded anything, never do, I think they just target people who they think wont fight back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In another note to my last one, I also havent downloaded anything, never do, I think they just target people who they think wont fight back.</p>
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		<title>By: nlove94965</title>
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		<dc:creator>nlove94965</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today I heard from virgin media who confirmed that they had a court order forced upon them on which they had to release customer data relating to my i.p adress. I have had my 3rd letter now telling me that it will goto court unless I  pay up. I am seeing a lawyer next week so we shall see what he says. I shall sue the arse of davenport lyons for harassment and defamation or something and virgin media for breach of a confidential agreement and being wuss enough to give in. Personally I think they are all in it together as they know they can&#039;t stop file sharers...period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I heard from virgin media who confirmed that they had a court order forced upon them on which they had to release customer data relating to my i.p adress. I have had my 3rd letter now telling me that it will goto court unless I  pay up. I am seeing a lawyer next week so we shall see what he says. I shall sue the arse of davenport lyons for harassment and defamation or something and virgin media for breach of a confidential agreement and being wuss enough to give in. Personally I think they are all in it together as they know they can&#8217;t stop file sharers&#8230;period.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i too receive a second letter which i found rather odd considering the fact that according to other sources the way the company aquired our info,ip etc was infact illegal.
i too had decided to ignore the first because one i have never heard of two worlds, two the letter was not even addressed to me but the previous resident here many years ago.
so again anyone gone to court with this? and has anyone used the facts that they illgaly attenind our ip/info?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i too receive a second letter which i found rather odd considering the fact that according to other sources the way the company aquired our info,ip etc was infact illegal.<br />
i too had decided to ignore the first because one i have never heard of two worlds, two the letter was not even addressed to me but the previous resident here many years ago.<br />
so again anyone gone to court with this? and has anyone used the facts that they illgaly attenind our ip/info?</p>
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		<title>By: Freakzoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freakzoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a second letter!!!!WTF, even though i never received the 1st one, so this has come as a total shock to me, I cannot remember downloading this title ad have defiantly not got it on my pc.

I don&#039;t know what to do now, do I bury my head in the sand or pay the Â£758.72 which they are requesting

any advice will be appreciated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a second letter!!!!WTF, even though i never received the 1st one, so this has come as a total shock to me, I cannot remember downloading this title ad have defiantly not got it on my pc.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what to do now, do I bury my head in the sand or pay the Â£758.72 which they are requesting</p>
<p>any advice will be appreciated</p>
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		<title>By: m1nnle</title>
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		<dc:creator>m1nnle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have received my 3rd and final letter now, I am going to ignore it but i would like to know if DL have actually taken anyone to court and one, this is worrying me greatly as we are on a low income and cant afford to pay the fines,I dont really want the inconvenience of going to court but i am resigned to the fact that i will go if i have to as i dont want to part with my money for something i havnt done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have received my 3rd and final letter now, I am going to ignore it but i would like to know if DL have actually taken anyone to court and one, this is worrying me greatly as we are on a low income and cant afford to pay the fines,I dont really want the inconvenience of going to court but i am resigned to the fact that i will go if i have to as i dont want to part with my money for something i havnt done.</p>
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		<title>By: lolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>lolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got my second letter today, going to ignore it as what people have said above is that they just can&#039;t claim this kind of money for the offense. 

But keep the advice coming its always welcomed :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got my second letter today, going to ignore it as what people have said above is that they just can&#8217;t claim this kind of money for the offense. </p>
<p>But keep the advice coming its always welcomed :D</p>
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		<title>By: Havok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Havok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my second one today too after ignoring the 1st.  This one tells me that they&#039;re preparing court letters and anything i sent them now won&#039;t close the case - they also provide me with the forms to send em their money...

I&#039;m trying to stay calm, but am reading more and more reports telling people to reply to the letters.  If you dont then they can get a default win against you without you even having to go to court because it&#039;s a civil case and not a criminal.

Not too sure what to do about it to be honest.  My biggest concern is that they win by default, sell the debt to a collection agency who then send some thugs round to take the the TV...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my second one today too after ignoring the 1st.  This one tells me that they&#8217;re preparing court letters and anything i sent them now won&#8217;t close the case &#8211; they also provide me with the forms to send em their money&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to stay calm, but am reading more and more reports telling people to reply to the letters.  If you dont then they can get a default win against you without you even having to go to court because it&#8217;s a civil case and not a criminal.</p>
<p>Not too sure what to do about it to be honest.  My biggest concern is that they win by default, sell the debt to a collection agency who then send some thugs round to take the the TV&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wowcow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wowcow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep second one today.. dam my shredder&#039;s getting full.

if you search google on the company DL used (Logistep) and their court cases you&#039;ll see they&#039;ve not been too successful :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep second one today.. dam my shredder&#8217;s getting full.</p>
<p>if you search google on the company DL used (Logistep) and their court cases you&#8217;ll see they&#8217;ve not been too successful :)</p>
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		<title>By: happyfeet</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe i got mt 2nd letter today too. see u at court :P *ignore mode on*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe i got mt 2nd letter today too. see u at court :P *ignore mode on*</p>
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		<title>By: HAPPY JACK !</title>
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		<dc:creator>HAPPY JACK !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my 1st letter March 2nd, it`s taken for them till now to demand money once again or i`m going to court so it looks like i`m a goin to court. Anyone out there want to come with me. Never even played Two Worlds so WTF ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my 1st letter March 2nd, it`s taken for them till now to demand money once again or i`m going to court so it looks like i`m a goin to court. Anyone out there want to come with me. Never even played Two Worlds so WTF ????</p>
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		<title>By: scared2fcuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>scared2fcuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News 
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Friday 9th May 2008
London lawyers demand ï¿½600 for game download 10:17AM, Friday 9th May 2008
A London legal firm is demanding in excess of ï¿½600 from people who it claims are guilty of downloading a single game from a file-sharing service.

Legal firm Davenport Lyons sent the demand to one PC Pro reader, after claiming it had &quot;forensic computer analysis&quot; that shows he downloaded the game Two Worlds using BitTorrent. Davenport Lyons is acting on the behalf of German games distributor Zuxxez, which last year employed the firm to target file sharers.

The PC Pro reader was given no prior warning to stop file sharing, unlike the usual &quot;three strikes and you&#039;re out&quot; approach adopted by the music industry, which gives users two warnings to stop sharing before legal proceedings are instigated.

The legal demand claims that &quot;given the extent of the damage that file sharing is causing to our client&#039;s business, our client is left with no option but to adopt a policy of enforcing its rights in an attempt to stem the wholesale misappropriation of its property.&quot;

The letter goes on to claim that its &quot;client is prepared to give you the opportunity to avoid legal action&quot; provided it receives compensation of ï¿½600 plus ï¿½8.18 to cover the costs of obtaining the user&#039;s details from their ISP.

The letter insists payment must be made within 14 days or else &quot;our client will be seeking as a minimum from you an interim payment of ï¿½1,200 and will request the Court to determine the level of total damages and costs which should be awarded against you&quot;.

Wrong postage paid

The PC Pro reader, who has asked not be to named, says he can find no trace of the Two Worlds game he is alleged to have downloaded on his home PCs, although can&#039;t rule out the possibility that his teenage children
 
	 
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may have downloaded the game.

Nevertheless, he feels the ï¿½600 &quot;settlement&quot; is &quot;highly disproportionate&quot; for the download of a single game.

&quot;To add insult to injury it [Davenport Lyons] didn&#039;t pay enough postage on the letter and I had to collect it from the sorting office at a cost of ï¿½1.30,&quot; he says. &quot;This also used up most of the two weeks that it allowed for a response.&quot;

A spokesman for Davenport Lyons told PC Pro that it was investigating why the letter was sent out with the incorrect postage, but refused to comment further on the matter. The game&#039;s distributor Zuxxez was unavailable for comment at the time of publication.

Hundreds targeted

This isn&#039;t the first time Davenport Lyons has targeted British file sharers. The firm last year sent out hundreds of similar letters on behalf of Zuxxez for the game Dream Pinball 3D and Codemasters for Colin McRae Dirt.

Many of those targeted claim they didn&#039;t download the game they were accused of illegally sharing, according to multiple posts on internet forums.

Several of those have challenged Davenport Lyons to produce their &quot;forensic&quot; evidence in court, although we can find no reported cases of successful prosecutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News<br />
[Internet]<br />
Friday 9th May 2008<br />
London lawyers demand ï¿½600 for game download 10:17AM, Friday 9th May 2008<br />
A London legal firm is demanding in excess of ï¿½600 from people who it claims are guilty of downloading a single game from a file-sharing service.</p>
<p>Legal firm Davenport Lyons sent the demand to one PC Pro reader, after claiming it had &#8220;forensic computer analysis&#8221; that shows he downloaded the game Two Worlds using BitTorrent. Davenport Lyons is acting on the behalf of German games distributor Zuxxez, which last year employed the firm to target file sharers.</p>
<p>The PC Pro reader was given no prior warning to stop file sharing, unlike the usual &#8220;three strikes and you&#8217;re out&#8221; approach adopted by the music industry, which gives users two warnings to stop sharing before legal proceedings are instigated.</p>
<p>The legal demand claims that &#8220;given the extent of the damage that file sharing is causing to our client&#8217;s business, our client is left with no option but to adopt a policy of enforcing its rights in an attempt to stem the wholesale misappropriation of its property.&#8221;</p>
<p>The letter goes on to claim that its &#8220;client is prepared to give you the opportunity to avoid legal action&#8221; provided it receives compensation of ï¿½600 plus ï¿½8.18 to cover the costs of obtaining the user&#8217;s details from their ISP.</p>
<p>The letter insists payment must be made within 14 days or else &#8220;our client will be seeking as a minimum from you an interim payment of ï¿½1,200 and will request the Court to determine the level of total damages and costs which should be awarded against you&#8221;.</p>
<p>Wrong postage paid</p>
<p>The PC Pro reader, who has asked not be to named, says he can find no trace of the Two Worlds game he is alleged to have downloaded on his home PCs, although can&#8217;t rule out the possibility that his teenage children</p>
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<p>may have downloaded the game.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, he feels the ï¿½600 &#8220;settlement&#8221; is &#8220;highly disproportionate&#8221; for the download of a single game.</p>
<p>&#8220;To add insult to injury it [Davenport Lyons] didn&#8217;t pay enough postage on the letter and I had to collect it from the sorting office at a cost of ï¿½1.30,&#8221; he says. &#8220;This also used up most of the two weeks that it allowed for a response.&#8221;</p>
<p>A spokesman for Davenport Lyons told PC Pro that it was investigating why the letter was sent out with the incorrect postage, but refused to comment further on the matter. The game&#8217;s distributor Zuxxez was unavailable for comment at the time of publication.</p>
<p>Hundreds targeted</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time Davenport Lyons has targeted British file sharers. The firm last year sent out hundreds of similar letters on behalf of Zuxxez for the game Dream Pinball 3D and Codemasters for Colin McRae Dirt.</p>
<p>Many of those targeted claim they didn&#8217;t download the game they were accused of illegally sharing, according to multiple posts on internet forums.</p>
<p>Several of those have challenged Davenport Lyons to produce their &#8220;forensic&#8221; evidence in court, although we can find no reported cases of successful prosecutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those whom authority wish to control, they first must scare shitless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those whom authority wish to control, they first must scare shitless</p>
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		<title>By: very worried</title>
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		<dc:creator>very worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just received my final letter today saying that they will not correspond with me any more and that they are issueing court proceedings against me .has anyone else got this letter and what did they do.
also has anyone been to court yet as i am getting rather nervous now .any help or advise will be most helpful to me .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just received my final letter today saying that they will not correspond with me any more and that they are issueing court proceedings against me .has anyone else got this letter and what did they do.<br />
also has anyone been to court yet as i am getting rather nervous now .any help or advise will be most helpful to me .</p>
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		<title>By: scared2fcuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>scared2fcuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the advice not to respond and have never herd back so don&#039;t worry, don&#039;t pay and don&#039;t panic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the advice not to respond and have never herd back so don&#8217;t worry, don&#8217;t pay and don&#8217;t panic</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO ALL DOWNLOADERS....!!!!
I am a debut artist who&#039;s just recorded one of the most expensive debut albums in recent history. 

We have just released my debut album as a FREE HQ Mp3 download. 

It was a tough decision for us to make because of the vast amounts spent on the album. We had two of the biggest record producers in the world work on it.... at Peter Gabriel&#039;s Realworld studio and at Abbey Road studio in london.

Despite all that, we recognise the massive potential the internet and free albums in particular offers. We launched last friday and have already had 1000&#039;s of DL&#039;s all over the world.

Come over and download for FREE.. it takes 2 minutes to DL because we have a dedicated server.

www.jackrubinacci.com
Thanks
Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO ALL DOWNLOADERS&#8230;.!!!!<br />
I am a debut artist who&#8217;s just recorded one of the most expensive debut albums in recent history. </p>
<p>We have just released my debut album as a FREE HQ Mp3 download. </p>
<p>It was a tough decision for us to make because of the vast amounts spent on the album. We had two of the biggest record producers in the world work on it&#8230;. at Peter Gabriel&#8217;s Realworld studio and at Abbey Road studio in london.</p>
<p>Despite all that, we recognise the massive potential the internet and free albums in particular offers. We launched last friday and have already had 1000&#8217;s of DL&#8217;s all over the world.</p>
<p>Come over and download for FREE.. it takes 2 minutes to DL because we have a dedicated server.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jackrubinacci.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jackrubinacci.com</a><br />
Thanks<br />
Jack</p>
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		<title>By: CZuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>CZuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a letter a few months back.  Luckily I have a solicitor friend whose son is a lawyer.  He asked his son for his opinions about the letter.  His son spoke to a couple of lawyer friends who used to work for one of the big London intellectual property/copyright law firms (have forgotten the name).  

Their response, assuming current copyright law, was along the lines of the IP/copyright owner would only be entitled to claim the value of their actual loss plus nominal costs.  Say the retail cost of a game is Â£30, the retailer and distributor will take margin, the actual value to the publisher will vary but will only be between Â£10-20.  This is the maximum they can claim from you in an English court.  The value of their costs are limited as well, the two IP lawyers said the maximum you would have to pay would be around Â£100.  

This is why DL have not taken anyone to court.  Their letters are a complete scaremongering scam.  My Solicitor friend&#039;s professional advice was to ignore the letter completely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a letter a few months back.  Luckily I have a solicitor friend whose son is a lawyer.  He asked his son for his opinions about the letter.  His son spoke to a couple of lawyer friends who used to work for one of the big London intellectual property/copyright law firms (have forgotten the name).  </p>
<p>Their response, assuming current copyright law, was along the lines of the IP/copyright owner would only be entitled to claim the value of their actual loss plus nominal costs.  Say the retail cost of a game is Â£30, the retailer and distributor will take margin, the actual value to the publisher will vary but will only be between Â£10-20.  This is the maximum they can claim from you in an English court.  The value of their costs are limited as well, the two IP lawyers said the maximum you would have to pay would be around Â£100.  </p>
<p>This is why DL have not taken anyone to court.  Their letters are a complete scaremongering scam.  My Solicitor friend&#8217;s professional advice was to ignore the letter completely</p>
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		<title>By: worried</title>
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		<dc:creator>worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anybody out there had to go to court over this matter, as i am getting  very upset by this and i am thinking of paying them Â£574 just because it is making me ill worrying about it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anybody out there had to go to court over this matter, as i am getting  very upset by this and i am thinking of paying them Â£574 just because it is making me ill worrying about it</p>
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