Which actually makes an interesting loophole for legal battles.

In my country it is little bit hard to do as only president can postpone law ratification by parliament/senate for two months. Then if in those two months enough signs are collected on petition then referendum is initiated. So then if half of electorate goes to referendum and if out of those 50%+ majority votes “no” then law is not ratified no meter what parliament(and lobbies) want.

So I wonder how such laws are in other EU countries? Can France citizens some how initiate referendum to reject the law?

It always makes me laugh when these dicks claim that they are losing millions of pounds every year from piracy. I don’t go to the flicks as most films these days suck huge balls, i no longer by CD’s or MP3 files for the same reasons. So how much more profit are they going to make if they disconnect me?

I’ll tell you how much FUCK ALL.

Most Virgin adverts actually boast about the fact you can download music, films, etc at faster speeds than there competitors.

They should’ve adapted

It’s not, it’s meant for streaming television to your eyeballs. People have turned away from old media sources and towards the Internet. This is to change. It’s imperitive that control of information is maintained.

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This seems my friend.

I assume that Sarkozy is a parasite that has too much free time because he really doesn’t work at all; and he gets boring with all that “free” time and then he has that using it in something so “productive” as pursuing filesharers.

The same applies for all the entertainment industry… too much free time without doing a real job damage the brain.

You mean like the EU Ruling on retention of DNA?

Don’t hold your breath m8…

OT “a massive 50% of all Internet traffic can be attributed to piracy alone”

Fukkkkkkkkkk yeah :) come & play Politicians. you’re in the shite ne way over expenses. Keep pushing…

We ARE the people.

To see people say “once they cut my net connection I’m not buying a thing” that’s krazy. Think about it for a second. So long as you go to the Theatre, buy a DVD or Rent that new Movie you are …

Supporting the actions against you with your own money,

Keeping the cash going to them which they give to the Corrupt Government officials to get their way,

Show them they can do what they want without any consequences.

Remember the golden rule, “He who has the gold makes the rules” Take away the gold!

The Real Agenda,

They are building the foundation for the future. For the longest time they have had control over everything, they have lost that and want it back. People who think they are krazy or stupid are wrong. They have a plan and are pushing it.

None of us know what it is, we can only speculate. Some speculations would be …

Mo Money!, Mo Money!!, Mo Money!!! – Every-time you watch that movie or listen to that song pony up!

Removing of independent artists -(another big threat) “Hey site A.com has indy’s only, but somehow they violated our copyright” (No proof required of course) opps no more Site A.com.

Love My A.C.T.A.,

The TPB trial verdict was unimportant (as well as any other legal battles), Any way it went did not matter to the **AA’s. If they lost no prob get wish list added to ACTA! If they win they will get a precedent to stomp other sites down. If it is appealed hey more wish listing from ACTA to prevent appeals next time. It’s a Win-Win-Win situation.

Ignore the man behind the curtain,

90% of people watch, read or view news from a source with a ($£€) pro-copyright interest. Of course many of those believe what they are told. They need to wake up and think for themselves.

The New Reality!,

Once the **AA’s get to where they want it to be, all the people who are “Entranced” will wake up to the new reality only to despise what is going on. Good-luck getting it changed then!

It’s all ours and not yours!,

In closing I want to leave you with a thought. Yesterday I was at a Nursery looking at plants for my mom for mothers day and picked up a ordinary looking plant with lime green leaves and on the tag it said “Plant Patent #xxx”. Remember it did not start with the **AA’s nor will it end with the **AA’s.

Imagine what lengths any company will go to to generate additional bank from you. Think of all the new (horrid) things that can happen and then if we all do nothing we will all be in the new reality of owning nothing and paying royalties for everything!

For now, don’t buy movies and music in any form except black market or dark net and just starve ‘em out.

People have the power. It’s called “buying power.” Used en masse it’s awesome.

The pirates will become the king-makers.

What website would warrant a 200mb broadband connection to view properly? seriously?

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“Not at all. It’s all one and the same to the law and a great deal is being done about it; it’s either legal or it is not, and this is the illegal company you keep when you pirate.”

How is it all “one and the same”. Could you provide some form of proof that they see all these as the same thing and are actually taking action against all those mentioned issues? I think your getting confused here…

your wrong, its just for viewing the web :s

Personally, I can’t stand the ‘Big 4′ and the leeching scumbag’s at the MPA/RIAA making ANY money from Artist’s/Developers work at all as all I see them provide me with is ‘Age ratings’(which I’ve said before, good parenting should be there for that) and to promote content to which ‘they’ believe is going to make the most revenue.

A business model I could swallow would involve this.

Most of the UK’s popular ISP’s have DPI in place on their networks already, which in turn can be used to analyze users downloads.

If this was such, and ISP’s agreed to pay Artist’s/Developers ‘directly’ from a small increase on my fee for service, a £1 pm sounds good to me, thats £4 million a month generated with Virgin Media customers alone, and this pot shared directly on popularity statisics generated from their DPI machines.

I can see some problem’s with this ‘model’ but surely something along these lines would be a whole lot better than trying to cut people from the Internet completely, that’s only going send prospective customers even deeper underground.

The multiple TLA’s/Lobbys need cutting out as they don’t have a business/remit in my eye’s.

Just a very similar group to which Al Capone used to run(Slice of cake Boss?).

It’s 99% about piracy.

This is why I have kind of stopped voting altogether. These people that are put in power, do no proper research of their own, on both sides of the coin. They’ll just lap up whatever, the suited industry types say and kiss butt, U.K style.

They think cutting people from the internet is going to help them, that’s quite laughable. Those in power are clueless to the legion of talented people out there across the globe. It took a small program like Bit Torrent to wake industry types up, and now they cry foul when they were forwarned, back in the mp3 days.

The revolution will continue to march on, even if some fall along the road to what we really want. It funny in a way, to watch, these news reports, as always, they show one side of the argument, and the masses on the subject believe it all, because its on tv.

Like we said, how do you prove, what’s streamed paid or freely, whats a free podcast, or my gaming online or a piece of legal/illegal software/film etc? Don’t see how it’ll ever work.

We all know the true solution. These industries need reform and rethinking, because as broadband speeds increase, and talented tech people get smarter, they’ll always be more heads growing on this internet hydra of file sharing. There’s money to be made for them online, if they are brave and adjust. I just wish they’d take a leaf out of the japanese anime online distribution model. Seems Crunchyroll had the right idea.

Then; Is not the opinion from approximately 40 million of filesharers around the world important or relevant on all this?

I think; the people want to share, this is a reality and a constant and growing tendency, and any effort for stopping this will be without success.

Any country where the parasites from the entertainment industry arrive with their absurds and unproved claims cause a lot of trouble and insatisfaction for the majority of the people, ISPs and goverments.

Why are the parasites from the entertainment industry more important than me, my country and my civil liberties?

I don’t get it.

I am pretty sure that all this conflict (that is only relevant for the entertainment industry and not for the people) is very easy to confront and fixing.

Simple. Putting to voting the copyright holders agenda with the millions of people from each country affected. I am pretty sure that the results will be very unfavorable for the entertainment industry, taken in consideration that they are a minority and that their agenda violates basic human rights and civil liberties.

If through some unfortunate circumstance, my ISP were to disconnect me, you can bet your last dollar that I would never buy another cd/dvd from whichever media conglomerate were involved.

“identity theft online, fencing stolen goods on eBay, spyware, malware, and Phishing emails from Nigerian princes are of little or no concern as long as filesharing exists.”

Not at all. It’s all one and the same to the law and a great deal is being done about it; it’s either legal or it is not, and this is the illegal company you keep when you pirate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8046028.stm

Whacky Jackie!? You sir, have made my day. That’s a pretty accurate description!

I don’t think they’d pass this though. Yea, the UK is MEGA control freak and big brotherish but with all the recent scandals and rumours going on about the goverment this would pretty much make them completely hated by the people, if their not already. Lets hope they avoid this shit and actually do some good.

no matter, its like all attempts to stop anything ‘criminal’ – people will find ways around it.

I for one will be removing the password protection on my wireless network should the 3-strikes law come to Britain.

I will openly allow, and encourage anyone and everyone to abuse my internet as much as possible. And i encourage others to consider doing the same. If enoguh people do it, you’ll get a court challenge and it’ll be scrapped.

The fact is, you cant cut someones internet off because they might be doing something. Thats like taking away all my families driving licenses because i get caught drink driving.

They are trying to tackle a civil issue with criminal penalties, they wont get away with it.

Broadband is not all about downloading on p2p. There is a lot of streaming content that require a fast connection and is legal. What about flash based websites?

As for HDD, if you buy music, videos on the web, you’ll need some space anyway. I don’t think your argument against the 3 strikes law is valid. But I’d have to agree it’s flirting with fascism.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8046564.stm

The UK Gov are buffoons and will definitely go for this. Whacky Jackie and her cronies will lap this up, after she’s repaid the tax payer for her porno vids and butt plugs ( or whatever they were ).

Looks like the muppet show made a return early!

The trouble is if somehow the **AA’s win, everyone loses, including themselves.

Then there are sites like rapidshare or torrents content in which is not necessarily copyrighted but how can we check if it is or not copyrighted and do we infrige on copyrights or not?

If copyright industry want such laws they must make some kind of services to tell what users what is copyrighted and what is not because I am not shore what is and what is not copyrighted in the Internet torrents or not… Say friend from another country sends me mp3 over skype and next day notices comes saying I infringed this music copyright and am disconnected…

Those 3 strikes are bullshit and even if they will be implemented it will end up being an uproar and civil case of large amount of not rightfully disconnected people going to court… At least that’s what I would do…

I would say that even a movement can be created to make large amount of innocent people falsely disconnected to show how stupid it is to go this way…

So I highly doubt that it will be implemented or even if it will then chances are that it will get a large resistance…