Comments on: UK Game Piracy: Propaganda, Evidence and Damages http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:30:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Jani http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-491522 Jani Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:15:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-491522 People should start a protest and stop buying games entirely until companies give up trying cashing in on damages. People should start a protest and stop buying games entirely until companies give up trying cashing in on damages.

]]> By: zerofool2005 http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-489760 zerofool2005 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:14:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-489760 I didnt know that access logs could be treated as real evidence as they can be quite easily faked/mistaken for somebody else. Proxy/Hacked wifi etc. 6 Aug 21, 2008 at 16:35 by yeah You are being mistaken for Nigeria there. We are not a country of scammers. We are a country of being scammed by our goverment and the big companies I didnt know that access logs could be treated as real evidence as they can be quite easily faked/mistaken for somebody else. Proxy/Hacked wifi etc.

6 Aug 21, 2008 at 16:35 by yeah

You are being mistaken for Nigeria there. We are not a country of scammers. We are a country of being scammed by our goverment and the big companies

]]> By: nlove94965 http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488770 nlove94965 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:19:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488770 Like I said, I've received about 3 letters the last one threatenin civil action but no more heard of since. The first letter was regarding Two Worlds and Pinball. Then the 2nd said we allegedly downloaded only Two Worlds and not pinball and the last letter just mentioned Two Worlds. I shall still turn up in court if I get requested to do so. We haven't responded to any as citizens advice just said not to and if we got summoned get a solicitor which I fully intend to do because I havent found any traces of it on any computers. Like I said, I’ve received about 3 letters the last one threatenin civil action but no more heard of since. The first letter was regarding Two Worlds and Pinball. Then the 2nd said we allegedly downloaded only Two Worlds and not pinball and the last letter just mentioned Two Worlds. I shall still turn up in court if I get requested to do so. We haven’t responded to any as citizens advice just said not to and if we got summoned get a solicitor which I fully intend to do because I havent found any traces of it on any computers.

]]> By: LP http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488605 LP Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488605 I received a letter quite some time ago about Call of Juarez. Didnt respond and havent heard anything since. It stated that I had downloaded the game in December 2006 I think. Has anyone received more than 1 letter about Call of Juarez? I received a letter quite some time ago about Call of Juarez. Didnt respond and havent heard anything since. It stated that I had downloaded the game in December 2006 I think.

Has anyone received more than 1 letter about Call of Juarez?

]]> By: Anon http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488538 Anon Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:32:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488538 Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Logistep collect the IP addresses and THEN sell them to the game publishers? Therefore this surely means that if Logistep did indeed download the torrent files in question then they did it without authorization, and thus committed copyright infringement. That's something worth pointing out in a rebuttal if you get a letter. You could also make some comment about how they were profitting from this piracy. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Logistep collect the IP addresses and THEN sell them to the game publishers?

Therefore this surely means that if Logistep did indeed download the torrent files in question then they did it without authorization, and thus committed copyright infringement.

That’s something worth pointing out in a rebuttal if you get a letter. You could also make some comment about how they were profitting from this piracy.

]]> By: fat boy http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488309 fat boy Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:27:57 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488309 Read me http://news.spong.com/article/16057/Five_Top_Publishers_Crack_Down_on_Piracy Read me

http://news.spong.com/article/16057/Five_Top_Publishers_Crack_Down_on_Piracy

]]> By: oneplusone http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488167 oneplusone Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:29:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488167 Their calculations are a joke. Let's see, they get 30,000 CDN$ and you get a crappy game. Seems fair. I would just stop enriching the games marketeers, Stop buying their products. Of course the problem with that is some gamers are so addicted to their juice, that they'd never show solidarity against manufacturers. But I would try all the same. 14 yr old boys don't really have society on their list of priorities and as such can't be relied upon to stick it to the man. Their calculations are a joke. Let’s see, they get 30,000 CDN$ and you get a crappy game. Seems fair. I would just stop enriching the games marketeers, Stop buying their products. Of course the problem with that is some gamers are so addicted to their juice, that they’d never show solidarity against manufacturers. But I would try all the same. 14 yr old boys don’t really have society on their list of priorities and as such can’t be relied upon to stick it to the man.

]]> By: Jeff http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488166 Jeff Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:29:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488166 UK is the best country in the world! UK is the best country in the world!

]]> By: wassapWT http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488164 wassapWT Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:28:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488164 http://beascener.com http://beascener.com

]]> By: Captain Copyright http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488138 Captain Copyright Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:52:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488138 Yet more bollocks coming out of the UK. 16 grand is probably the most profit they will ever make on that game: if they ever get it. Seems farcical that a company can accuse you of anything they like with no credible evidence and actually win damages that are way out of line with reality. Had someone had their arm blown off in Iraq they would probably get about 10 grand.. but for seeding Dream Pinball 3D... Yet more bollocks coming out of the UK.

16 grand is probably the most profit they will ever make on that game: if they ever get it.

Seems farcical that a company can accuse you of anything they like with no credible evidence and actually win damages that are way out of line with reality.

Had someone had their arm blown off in Iraq they would probably get about 10 grand.. but for seeding Dream Pinball 3D…

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-488121 Anonymous Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:47:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-488121 @6 - wtf r u talkin bout? Weirdo wanker @6 – wtf r u talkin bout? Weirdo wanker

]]> By: pinshot http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487982 pinshot Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:33:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487982 after reading alot about this case i have came to the conclusion that this game was not ever meant to sell. I believe it was leaked purposefully onto the net and the intention was to make the mass of profits from file sharers in the first place. Its just all far too convieniant! after reading alot about this case i have came to the conclusion that this game was not ever meant to sell. I believe it was leaked purposefully onto the net and the intention was to make the mass of profits from file sharers in the first place. Its just all far too convieniant!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487975 Anonymous Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:13:48 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487975 It should also be noted that the Daily Mail reported that Miss Barwinska moved from Leytonstone to Canning Town between the date of the alleged infringement and the date of the judgement. The piece by Channel 4 News suggests that Davenport Lyons had no idea if they'd managed to successfully contact Miss Barwinska. If she moved before Davenport Lyons' paperwork turned up, she can apply to the court to have the judgement set aside. What a great victory that would be for Davenport Lyons. It should also be noted that the Daily Mail reported that Miss Barwinska moved from Leytonstone to Canning Town between the date of the alleged infringement and the date of the judgement. The piece by Channel 4 News suggests that Davenport Lyons had no idea if they’d managed to successfully contact Miss Barwinska. If she moved before Davenport Lyons’ paperwork turned up, she can apply to the court to have the judgement set aside. What a great victory that would be for Davenport Lyons.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487970 Anonymous Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:09:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487970 Another forum (that led me here) is talking about a ame called "The Witcher" being the current favourite. Another forum (that led me here) is talking about a ame called “The Witcher” being the current favourite.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487968 Anonymous Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:06:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487968 @18 Anon The "Work" I apparently infringed was Race 07. Mine seems 2 b the latest ambulance out of the A+E, even though thier so called "evidence" relates 2 last year. @18 Anon
The “Work” I apparently infringed was Race 07.
Mine seems 2 b the latest ambulance out of the A+E, even though thier so called “evidence” relates 2 last year.

]]> By: pdf http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487967 pdf Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:01:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487967 the court case info here h**p://www.giuristitelematici.it/modules/bdnews/doc/logistep_doc.pdf the court case info here
h**p://www.giuristitelematici.it/modules/bdnews/doc/logistep_doc.pdf

]]> By: Anon http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487964 Anon Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:51:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487964 @27, Anonymous What game are they trying to claim "damages" for? I can only find sources regarding codemasters (colin mcrae) and Topware (pinball faggotry). Atari stopped publishing decent games 3 years ago. And good on you for fighting this bullshit. @27, Anonymous

What game are they trying to claim “damages” for? I can only find sources regarding codemasters (colin mcrae) and Topware (pinball faggotry).

Atari stopped publishing decent games 3 years ago.

And good on you for fighting this bullshit.

]]> By: Jeff http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487960 Jeff Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:35:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487960 I've been following this story since it first broke on Slyck.com in March 2007 when Davenport Liars, uh I mean Lyons began threatening people they claimed to have been sharing Dream Pinball 3D. To me it seems like an elaborate scam, and until there is official court documentation that they won a default judgement, anything said by the media is parroted DL fake PR. Logistep's method of determining who the infringers are is ar best inaccurate; this is supported by the study the University of Washington did where printers got DMCA notices. And anyway, an IP address is not a person, despite what DL or the MAFIAA may claim otherwise. Some choice words about all this: Who DL are: Ambulance Chasers What they are doing: Vexatious Litigation/Barratry/Malicious Prosecution (this last one sounds like it would be used in a criminal case, but it has been used to counter some of the RIAA's legal attacks.) What DL deserve: Disbarrment I’ve been following this story since
it first broke on Slyck.com in March
2007 when Davenport Liars, uh I mean
Lyons began threatening people they
claimed to have been sharing Dream
Pinball 3D.

To me it seems like an elaborate scam,
and until there is official court
documentation that they won a default
judgement, anything said by the media
is parroted DL fake PR.

Logistep’s method of determining
who the infringers are is ar best
inaccurate; this is supported by the
study the University of Washington
did where printers got DMCA notices.
And anyway, an IP address is not a
person, despite what DL or the MAFIAA
may claim otherwise.

Some choice words about all this:

Who DL are: Ambulance Chasers
What they are doing: Vexatious
Litigation/Barratry/Malicious
Prosecution (this last one sounds
like it would be used in a criminal
case, but it has been used to
counter some of the RIAA’s legal
attacks.)
What DL deserve: Disbarrment

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487942 Anonymous Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:59:57 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487942 @18 Anon Yes, DL in their lunacy thought I'd stump up over £500 2 line the pockets of themselves, Atari, Logistab & my ISP 4 admin. Take the fight 2 them I (under advice)say. You will have 2 pay 2 do so, but the sooner the courts\judges get wise the better. @18 Anon
Yes, DL in their lunacy thought I’d stump up over £500 2 line the pockets of themselves, Atari, Logistab & my ISP 4 admin.

Take the fight 2 them I (under advice)say. You will have 2 pay 2 do so, but the sooner the courts\judges get wise the better.

]]> By: Rasha http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/#comment-487935 Rasha Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:28:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3970#comment-487935 I think funkytorrents servers got siezed.. can anyone confirm that? I think funkytorrents servers got siezed..

can anyone confirm that?

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