6 Aug 21, 2008 at 16:35 by yeah

You are being mistaken for Nigeria there. We are not a country of scammers. We are a country of being scammed by our goverment and the big companies

Has anyone received more than 1 letter about Call of Juarez?

Therefore this surely means that if Logistep did indeed download the torrent files in question then they did it without authorization, and thus committed copyright infringement.

That’s something worth pointing out in a rebuttal if you get a letter. You could also make some comment about how they were profitting from this piracy.

http://news.spong.com/article/16057/Five_Top_Publishers_Crack_Down_on_Piracy

16 grand is probably the most profit they will ever make on that game: if they ever get it.

Seems farcical that a company can accuse you of anything they like with no credible evidence and actually win damages that are way out of line with reality.

Had someone had their arm blown off in Iraq they would probably get about 10 grand.. but for seeding Dream Pinball 3D…

What game are they trying to claim “damages” for? I can only find sources regarding codemasters (colin mcrae) and Topware (pinball faggotry).

Atari stopped publishing decent games 3 years ago.

And good on you for fighting this bullshit.

To me it seems like an elaborate scam,
and until there is official court
documentation that they won a default
judgement, anything said by the media
is parroted DL fake PR.

Logistep’s method of determining
who the infringers are is ar best
inaccurate; this is supported by the
study the University of Washington
did where printers got DMCA notices.
And anyway, an IP address is not a
person, despite what DL or the MAFIAA
may claim otherwise.

Some choice words about all this:

Who DL are: Ambulance Chasers
What they are doing: Vexatious
Litigation/Barratry/Malicious
Prosecution (this last one sounds
like it would be used in a criminal
case, but it has been used to
counter some of the RIAA’s legal
attacks.)
What DL deserve: Disbarrment

Take the fight 2 them I (under advice)say. You will have 2 pay 2 do so, but the sooner the courts\judges get wise the better.

can anyone confirm that?

Some of those accused of sharing the game chose to fight the legal action and it was in one of these contested cases that Topware Interactive won its claim for damages.

“This is a proper Intellectual Property (IP) court that has made this judgement,” said independent IP barrister David Harris. “The previous ones were default judgements where defendants never turned up.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7568642.stm

Can anyone refute this?

@ 16

Actually it’s a little over £6000 for ‘compensation due to sales lost’ and the other £10,000 for legal fees… tho how it costs that much when people don’t show up then I don’t know…

so 100GB = 800Gb … 800 million bits being downloaded at a rate of 128 per second MAX (could be less for all we know, making that over 72 days of solid 24/7 uploading by my (admittedly usually suspect) arithmetic …

Like you said – yeah right!

https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb

lol

For sure, this is another tactic of game companies, making a useless game like Dream Pinball 3D which doesnt cost even 300GBP, making huge $ from it.

For God Sake, Dream Pinball 3D is a useless game, as i installed it, after 2 minutes i removed it from my PC.

Dream Pinball 3D just a SH*T game, it’s not even worth of 1GBP, i highly request UK GOV to stop these game companies and their F*ckin money making tactics.

How long will it take to upload 100Gb of data?? Lets assume an average *upload* speed of 128kb on broadband. Much slower than the download speed obviously. Hope I don’t get it wrong, but 100Gb = 100,000Mb = 100,000,000Kb / 128kb = roughly 9 full days, 24 hrs a day of only uploading the game non-stop, no other uploads taking place.

Yeah. Right.

Think people should just boycott this company make a stand…

I like computers and I like beer and I’m in the UK. I’ve not seen a computer pub before, but I’d love some directions.

The same chap said: “So its to be expected that the lawyers do it too, and im sure theres nothing you can do about it.”

That’s not entirely true. With their colours showing quite vividly now, I’d be surprised if a phonecall to the Law Society, the regulatory body of solicitors in the UK, didn’t harbour some kind of result.

And more: “UK is a toilet.”

Spoken, I assume, by someone who doesn’t live here, given the lack of knowledge displayed.

Davenport Lyons know exactly who to pick on when it comes to court cases because they have either not responded at all to the letters or they have vowed against succumbing to DL’s monetary or court threats. Those who responded denying the claim(s) are probably safe from the court room, especially if they used a solicitor to correspond on their behalf. DL could fight trained solicitors or they could fight an unemployed, possibly non-national mother-of-two. The choice is simple.

These aforementioned ‘victories’ will probably be used as ammunition in future DL infringement letters that they are planning to send out, or to reinforce claims that they have already mailed.

Once someone turns up to court to face DL with a solicitor and at least 2 brain cells, the flaws and illegality of Logistep’s ‘evidence’ system will become apparent. It will be interesting to read the (lack of) DL press statements as they either burrow their heads in the sand or the court system buries their heads for them. Allegedly, this happened in Germany and France where their judicial systems eventually cottoned on to this sort of scheme and ordered the legal firms to close up shop for unlawful practice. The UK is just a stepping stone whereby they will exploit these legal grey-areas until the legal system becomes fed up with hundreds or thousands of these infringement cases.

The predator will then move on to new feeding grounds. Maybe they will try to extort £500 from Ghanaian or Ethiopian people

I wasn`t aware that she didnt turn up & this was a default judgement.

Ah well fukk em, i`d go to court & push it ;)

I bet Atari are after the people who downloaded Alone in the Dsrk then. It’s been 3 months, probably more since it was actually leaked.

If you get a letter, I suggest you come back here and research the Colin Mcrae and Call of Juarez cases in particular, and also don’t forget to do some research on Logistep. The best way to get Davenport Lyons to back off is to write a long, civil, rebuttal qouting various EU and UK laws, and how Logistep is acting illegally. It’s important you use the example of what happened in Italy in this case.

Have a response in your letter ready for every point they make. Make it clear that you are taking this very seriously, and you are not taking lightly to this scam.

The whole point of this is to make it clear that you WILL defend yourself. As soon as Davenport Lyons gets this impression, they will back off. They are not interested in a legal fight, they are looking for easy money, relying solely on bullying tactics.

Don’t ignore the letters if you’re guilty.

So its to be expected that the lawyers do it too, and im sure theres nothing you can do about it. UK is a toilet.

He aays it helps him find a younger audience who might not have heard of him if not for file-sharing.

Go Def Leopard!

Although to not show up in court is always a stupid idea, so part of me can’t help but blaim them for all the stupid news coverage.

Trying to take advantage of the fact that they can do “anything” cause a judge hasn’t seen or approved it…

To those who didn’t pay up: Good job. Don’t EVER pay.