You all need to grow up and start realising that people should – and will – get rewarded for what they do.

There’s plenty of ways to enjoy music for minimal cost if you can’t afford to buy it in CD form now.

If you continue breaking the law, you will get punished.

Quite simply, you’ve been given a marvelous tool, you’ve abused it and you feel so clever ripping off the arts (which you justify with all sorts of silly reasons), and now the adults need to come by, grab you by the scruff of the neck, and force you to play fair.

Seems fair enough to me. If you continue (and there will always be some bad eggs, I know that) you will be punished.

for example – “copyright law will continue to harm society until society ends copyright”

See what I mean? It’s not thought out, mature or realistic.

peace.

Peace. :)

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/

Feel free to sign it if you want to ensure the government are reminded just who pays their wages.

“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to abolish the proposed law that will see alleged illegal filesharers disconnected from their broadband connections, without a fair trial.

Submitted by Andrew Heaney of TalkTalk – Deadline to sign up by: 20 October 2010 – Signatures: 33,332

I don’t really care though, they’ll never catch me.

I hope I’m around when all you *IAA skunks get the boot. And you will.

If you were continuously caught speeding in a vehicle you used for work it’d be taken away from you too.

What RM states is very reasonable and something I *WOULD* support. As stated in the article the definition of what was defined as criminal would need to be specified but if you knowingly break laws you should be prepared for what is coming to you

everyone chill be careful to chill and not rise to the flame-bait

It is actually possible to get drunk from water, you’d need a very large amount though, you’d probably drown before becoming drunk.

Personally i believe if a techonology exists that can re-create a product (whatever that be) free of charge, then noone should be stopped from using it.

Assumption that your product (whatever) can always make profit or has any right to, is a dilusion.

If i eat an apple, plant the seed and grow an apple tree, should the supermarket be able to sue me for creating my own supply of apples (instead of continuing to buy theirs)?… think about it…

What kind of water are they drinking in your city?

Indeed matey.

if only as much efforts as being targeted against those filesharing were afforded to scammers and phishers, identity thieves, credit fraudsters etc on the Internet.

Real Internet crime, “Unlawful behavior on the internet” might actually fall instead of forever rising.

As it is, loads of effort is being levelled at filesharing, which translates to minimal loses to the industries involved who still realise massive profits even during the recession they hardly took a hit, while individuals are having their lives wrecked because of prolific cyber crime against the individual, as much as the corporates are demanding measures which will also wreck lives disproportionately to downloading habits.

Easier to allow entertainments corporate enforcement agents to sue the hell out of a single mother and her daughter who downloads some music for instance and causing them severe hardship and adversity, for example from a couple of years back in the USA, than actually doing anything about cyber criminals in real terms.

Peace. :)

See a pattern?”

Yes, your sanctimonious bullshit.
who made you the internet God?

You cant have a download limit with encrypted traffic, since a lot of people use VPNs for work related tasks, imposing a limit on that would make your connection useless and would severely reduce ISP business.

If this is the best they can do after all this time.. I have no worries that we will be downloading for a long time to come.

Peace. :)

“Stops all this Human Rights b/s.”

That counts as the worst kind of troll in my book, and there should be SOME way to block it if TF won’t do it for us. If only we had some down-voting system like YouTube, that we can use to hide the most inane comments.

But those who come to TF, which is torrent community, filesharing oriented, to slag people off like they are better than us, should expect robust opposition to our points of view.

As in this thread there isn’t really any trolling, you are referring to the other i’d of thought, else who in this is really trolling.

So we are supposed to be fine with idiots who obviously have no idea what they are talking about regards point of law when they refer to torrent downloaders as “Criminals”?

Just spout off as though we are criminals as they egotistically condescend to us all as though they are something superior.

We’re supposed to fine with it and say nothing are we?

no, idiots who just come onto TF to feed their ego’s by slagging us off with false accusations that we are criminals, deserve everything they get.

End of.

But the ISPs already do the first two.

But what is being proposed her is like the police coming to your door and saying:

“Your number plate has been reported twice near the scene of an alleged crime. We don’t know if it was on your car, or who was driving it, and have not established in court that a crime actually took place. But if it is reported again we are impounding your car.

You see, it should come down to due process and the presumption of innocence.

What you have to realise is the element of collective punishment here. I need the internet for my work and no IP monitoring company on planet earth is capable of identifying an infringer behind an IP address. The actions of others will result in internet disconnections for many.

Reason that out if you have 2 minutes

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this another sleight-of-speak for ‘everyone who file shares’?

he can final go down the toilet with the other brownies. throw some bleach down too these buggers are extra nasty.

like we have found out its GREED thats ruining the arts.

i can no longer play my own music with my ibanez pgm with my jmc 800 stack thanks to these copyright extremist why should i pay these buggers to play my OWN music.

that my not be directly related but a example of how these suck bags have taken away my pride and joy.

trust me guys luckly i don’t rely on my music creativity to earn money i am a computer scientist.

seems to me labor would be all over this idea to cut the internet off its people another law were they don’t have to justify their actions, you know like the terrorist laws they use to stop and search 5 year olds, or spy on what you put in the bin.

this a law labour wants shame that the majority of the uk public think shearing is no crime at all not as though file shearing was against the law anyway, well that’s only if ask fascist fact or bpi.

i hope the haters become the loathed and look backed in shame from the future generations much like the slave own families who still today are not ashamed of were their family money came from.

a little rant i guess still nice to know i am not alone on this one.

cheers guys

After three infringements = 1 month bandwidth restriction to 256kb/sec up 32kb/sec

After four infringements = 3 month bandwidth restriction to 256kb/sec up 32kb/sec

After six infringements = 6 month bandwidth restriction to down 56kb/sec up 32Kb/sec

After 10 infringements = 1 month temp suspension. Seems about fair.

Stepped return to full speed, unless you infringe again and then your banned. You’ve had fair warning.
Stops all this Human Rights b/s. Funny how rights only ever applies to your side of the argument eh?

After three infringements = 1 month bandwidth restriction to 256kb/sec up 32kb/sec

After four infringements = 3 month bandwidth restriction to 256kb/sec up 32kb/sec

After six infringements = 6 month bandwidth restriction to down 56kb/sec up 32Kb/sec

After 10 infringements = 1 month temp suspension. Seems about fair.

Stepped return to full speed, unless you infringe again and then your banned. You’ve had fair warning.
Stops all this Human Rights b/s. Funny how rights only ever applies to your side of the argument eh?