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UK Government To Inspect Google’s Failed Downranking of “Pirate” Sites

After mounting pressure from international rightsholders, in August Google finally caved in and said it would start making ‘pirate’ sites more difficult for its users to find. But three months on and despite removing millions of links to allegedly infringing content every week, the content industries still aren’t happy. In the face of Google’s apparent inability to hide online piracy from its users, the search engine faces the specter of legislation forcing it to do so.

In recent years entertainment companies have been placing increasing pressure on search engines that link to sites that facilitate copyright infringement. In August that lobbying appeared to start paying off.

Google announced that it would begin taking into consideration the number of DMCA takedown notices it receives against domains when it determines how high to place them in search results.

“Sites with high numbers of removal notices may appear lower in our results,” Google’s Amit Singhal explained.

Within a week the first signs of the new policy appeared to be visible. Tests carried out by TorrentFreak for the popular movie The Dictator yielded results that no longer included sites such as The Pirate Bay, KickassTorrents and isoHunt. (before and after images).

But now, three months later, the entertainment companies still aren’t happy. According to The Guardian the UK government will review Google’s promise to kick unauthorized media sites down its rankings after it was accused of still not doing enough.

The government threatening to become involved again will be unwelcome news. Last year it issued a private warning to Google that failure to comply could result in legislation that would force the search engine into action.

To see how Google is actually doing today we re-ran our tests on The Dictator, searching for “The Dictator Download” just as we did before. As can be seen from the screenshot below, all the previously disappeared torrent sites are now back including isoHunt, The Pirate Bay and KickassTorrents.

The Dictator

Change the search to “The Dictator Torrent” and every single link on the first page of results links to pages on torrent sites indexing unauthorized copies, a situation that appears completely unchanged from that of three months ago.

Of course, movies are only part of the equation and it appears that when it comes to mainstream rightsholders, music is the content most likely to be targeted with a Google takedown. One of the most targeted domains in this respect is FilesTube, a cyberlocker search engine that hosts zero content of its own.

To see the effect on FilesTube we searched for the top two most popular artists in the US right now according to LastFM – Radiohead and Kanye West.

Of the first 10 results for “Radiohead download” only two were obviously infringing. The first was for BeeMP3, the 11th most-complained-about site to Google. The second referenced MP3Lemon, currently the 273rd most-complained-about site.

The first 10 results for Kanye West produced three obviously infringing links, including one from MP3Skull right at the very top. MP3Skull is currently the 23rd most-complained-about domain when it comes to DMCAs sent to Google. A result from KickassTorrents (7th place for DMCAs with Google) was placed two positions above an official iTunes download.

However, in both instances if the search is switched to “Radiohead mp3″ and “Kanye West mp3″, all first page results (apart from two for Radiohead) appear to be infringing.

But despite these results, could Google be keeping to its word? When it comes to music searches (at least when they don’t include the words “torrent” or “mp3″) it may well be. The most-complained-about domains seem to appear in the first few results less often than other lower profile ones.

If this is indeed a result of changes by Google, these lesser-known sites will be very grateful for the boost. What this also shows is that demoting certain sites effectively promotes others, shifting piracy around and doing little to stop it.

For its part, Google insists it is doing what it can to push sites with high numbers of removal notices down the rankings. The BPI, a major sender of DMCA takedowns to Google, still aren’t happy.

“Google said it would stop putting the worst pirate sites at the top of search results. Google’s transparency report shows they know clearly which are most infringing domains,” said Geoff Taylor, chief executive of the BPI.

“Yet three months into the much-vaunted algorithm change, many of these illegal sites are still dominating search results for music downloads. We are talking to Google to try to establish why this is the case.”

In the meantime it would be interesting to discover if the amount of time and money invested by the labels into having content taken down is being matched by their efforts to improve their own SEO. If so-called ‘pirate sites’ can make it to the top of the rankings with their comparatively limited resources, why can’t the giants of the music industry do the same – without Google’s help?

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  • Guest

    Why bother with SEO when as a monopoly you can simply extort fees.

    • yello

      when will they learn, they can block all they want.
      if we want it, we will FIND it

      • Guest

        Yeah indeed, How may search sites are there on the internet?

        • Guest

          Just like greedy people, MAFIAA and government will never be happy until they completely control the Internet.

        • Pey

          And… some people still say “Google is your friend” haha.

      • Danny

        This is exactly what I think is happening.

        People who search for ‘Radiohead download’ click on the free download links not the itunes links. They are searching for free and not for itunes so they click the torrent link or whatever, this boosts the rankings for that site with those search terms.

        Its a vicious cycle and the only way for it to end is with the music industry changing their behaviour and treating their customers like customers again and competing in the market.

      • Gen. Eric Guy

        Apparently, these asshats haven’t heard of “prohibition” and how that was a “roaring success”.

        [sarcasm]Yes, we’re a dry country now.[/sarcasm]

        History repeats itself, and apparently nobody has learned their lesson yet. I mean, how many times must they fail before they finally learn their lesson?

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      I’m getting really pissed with these MAFIAA types bullying our search engines, our governments and our very freedoms to share what we wish when we wish. This is NOT democracy!! It’s government by Corporations – and that’s utter shite for all of us.

      We need to start writing to our own locally elected politicians to demand that we want laws such as the DMCA, DEA, Copyright and similar Acts be abolished completely and replaced with laws that allow “We the People” to share media as we see fit, when we see fit and to do so without threat of penalty.

      When you get their reply saying “No, are you fucking mad?” that’s when you seek out and join your local Pirate Party and do so en masse.

      Because one things for sure – when the major political parties start losing voters to the smaller up-and-coming Party’s they’ll eventually sit up and listen.

  • Guest

    I see the MAFFIA have again got the US government to do their bidding for them to inspect Google. I see this is more important to the the MAFFIA than the real live issues hurricane Sandy and other issues.

    • Some stuff

      It’s the “UK Government”
      At least read before you post shit

      • No

        The UK Government is the US Government’s bitch, so same difference

        • SS6

          Justs remember whos actual USA – where USA people come form ? what they are ? Wnat is is USA ? In past they come from UK becouse UK consider new lands (aka USA and in some cases many colony) like a big jail so deported criminals ,prisioniers, poor illiterate people , homless to clean UK society , all of this people kill amerindians , take their lands , bring black people from Africa to work on plantations like slaves (this lazy UK people know very well this becouse UK use colony people like slaves and takes colony resources ) and after build and form USA ( a ex UK colony )
          The difference between UK and USA is size – USA is much bigger, is much greedy – to have more , to conquer more , to invade , to kill , to takes more obedient and “new”slaves (corporation and bank workers), have more violence (becouse they have crime in genes) , have more lazy fat stupid people ,all inherited from their uk ancestors and after developed at huge scale .

          USA it is a nation , the most criminal nation form the world , most then “40 nazi , natzi dont have slaves but USA have a lot in the past , becouse they kill and invade more countries like nazi , they have more experiments on humans , more international laws broken , more stupid wars etc etc

          If Google will continue it is posible to collapse , sites will refuse to index and will stay more hide , what stupid trools dont want or dont understand is – piracy will survive as long humans will survive , nobody can win against millions, billions people (nobody can force masses to respect others law,if a law inst respected by masses then mean that law it is wrong ,outdated , nobody can have enough resources to jail or punish milllions people , so it is just a illlusion to belive somone will win whan fight against – it is like fight against drugs etc , wasting public money to makes other bastards rich .

      • EpisodeOne

        US gov., UK gov., what’s the difference? The territory.

  • http://twitter.com/jokenball Kenneth

    “the content industries still aren’t happy”

    They never fucking are.

    • Guest

      And they will never be.

    • 7th_Guest

      “I mean, I don’t get it, we tore one of our arms off and we threw it to those cannibals. What the hell are they coming back to us for again?”

      One can’t help but wonder at times about Google’s negotiating tactic…

  • Guest

    Google is in a no win situation. It is there own stupid fault for saying yes to the MAFFIA in the first place for downgrading sites etc. for them. Now the MAFFIA will expect Google to do everything for the them. Google have been royal shafted by the MAFFIA and they only have themselves to blame if the MAFFIA sues Google for not doing enough.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Especially given that Google actually is in the position to fight back.

      Google could in essence buy out the major content companies backing the MPAA/RIAA with coffee cash. Their own fault for insisting that unlike the aforesaid companies they prefer to spend their cash on useful and creative stuff…

      • Gen. Eric Guy

        I wonder if there will ever be a noble monopoly that would buy out other potential monopolies to stop their corruption.

        Then again, a benevolent monopoly is a bit of an oxymoron.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          That’s basically the Caesarean maxim…

          The man who founds a dynasty is usually a genius and one to make his people prosper. His son is an imbecile or a monster, his son again most likely both…

          You could no doubt argue that Google is, so far a benevolent monopoly. All it takes is for one guy like Steve Jobs to take over as CEO and said benevolence is lost while the genius remains.

          Hence any benevolent monopoly will be very short-lived in that form.

    • Goddidiego

      Yup. Lick their ass once, and you’ll lick their ass forever, my dear Googlie-girl… :p

    • Keke

      absolutely, see torrentspy case

  • Guest

    If the BPI can get a court order to force UK ISP’s to block The Pirate Bay then why don’t it issue a court order to force the UK ISP’s to block Google if the BPI think that they are not combating piracy.

    • GoOnTryItBPI

      Love to see them try that. That would put an end to the BPI deciding what UK netizens get to see.

      • GoOnTryItBPi

        Of course they won’t take on Google because they have too much money and the BPI could never hope to win in an uncorrupt court of law this is why they are lurching in the backrooms of Whitehall whispering in people’s ears and bribing those that can help their cause.

  • Spike

    Good for you Google, everyone told you that once you started down this slippery path of caving to rightsholders, nothing you do will be ever good enough period, its like a ratchet they keep tightening. You are fucked. You never make promises to big content.

  • Roswell1701

    The only way to keep a search engine from showing information is to completely REMOVE said information. There’s a word for that: CENSORSHIP! :(

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Exactly. Which brings us to the first rule of the internet: Censorship is intrepreted as damage and routed around.

      We already have abundant examples of decentralized search engines out there. Once google proves itself fallible in searches, it loses market dominance immediately. That’s the way the cookie crumbles…

      • Roswell1701

        Yes, but there’s an even bigger issue… The mode of operation with regard to CENSORSHIP of Torrenting seems to be GUILT BY ASSOCIATION. This extends well beyond search engines to the entire Net. A number of tech sites in the last two years have been FORCED to stop reporting torrent-related news. Eventually, they could try to eliminate sites like Torrent Freak altogether. Censorship is where it starts, but FASCISM is where it could end. Be careful. Just THINKING about Torrenting could get you charged with THOUGHT CRIME!

        • Guest

          What tech sites?

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Yep.

          Which is where the darknet takes over. Many modern torrent clients generating ad-hoc networks already contain chat clients, web interfaces, the works. There is nothing to stop an internet 3.0 growing up as a darknet nestled inside the open one.

          And from what I see that process has already started. In small scale with proof-of-concept being made of decentralized DNS, decentralized hosting, distributed freenet-style databases and chat rooms…but as time goes by, proof-of-concept becomes mainstream, given any motivation or demand.

          I recall people saying as late as five years ago that Linux would never become user-friendly. Things move fast.

        • Roswell1701

          The prospects of The Dark Net and it’s related technologies are exciting. As to Linux, I’ve never used it. Windows 8 looks like complete SHIT to me, and I’m considering making the change. But I work with video and graphics. Windows allows me to work fast. I’m in and out of program apps so fast that my girlfriend thinks I have ADD. Has Linux progressed to the point where it’s that user-friendly? I recently watched a “beginners” tutorial and, to me, it looked kind of like the old Windows DOS. I’d really appreciate any technical advice or opinions you’d care to share…

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          My experience with Linux is that the latest distros of Ubuntu, for instance, are about as user-friendly as a Mac. There is a learning curve, but it’s hardly steep.

          I’d advice installing Ubuntu on an older computer and try it out. There are a number of ways to simply try it – http://www.ubuntu.com/

          One of which is downloading and burning the .iso file directly and then boot the computer from the disc (it’ll be very slow as the comp literally runs from the CD, but it will give you a general idea on how it works).

          Since you work with video and graphics I would simply google “Open source alternative for [blah]” or “Can [blah] run with wine”?

          I can tell you this much – if one of my relatives simply want the computer to work, no questions asked, and doesn’t use it for gaming then I just install the latest version of ubuntu on it and tell him/her to run the updater every week. Usually I get to do by FAR less tech support than i did when they were running xp.

          And for the record, yes, windows 8 looks like absolute crap. Windows 7 though, still has good reviews.

        • Roswell1701

          Well, that’s what pisses me off the most… I like Windows 7. It took them twenty-five years to get it right and now they want to trash it. Anyway, thanks for the input, I really appreciate it. :)

    • Chronoss2008

      start with your prq child molestor friends ok!

      • Anyone

        who let you back in?

      • IDIOCRACY

        euh, content creators paid by RIAA are child molesters, convicted ones, (Garry Glitter for example) so who is to be censored here? hehe

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Given that prq in standing up for freedom of speech helps children far more by allowing society to realize the issues at stake than you do when you try to sweep debate under the rug, the only “friend of molestors” around here seems to be you.

        In any sane society, allowing racists pedophiles and other monsters the right to speak isn’t for their benefit – but for ours, as a society. Good ideas will stand and bad ideas will be soundly rejected.

        Paedophilia and racism in particular can not survive in an environment where such issues are debated and noticed by all. Only when they are not. Simply because most people considered “normal” do not condone, by biological imperative, the abuse or sexualization of children for example.

        The only ones who tend to fear debate on paedophilia are the ones afraid they’ll be tempted by said debate. For the rest of us, that debate is nothing other than an inconvenient but important reminder that there are sick people out there and what their current argument is.

        So, Chronoss…why exactly are you so terrified that PRQ happens to be hosting a webpage where paedos get to speak their piece in their own forum?

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  • steve

    Well at least they are not going after the little guy, but still, Google knows all to well if it starts censoring it’s search results eventually the general public will lash out and new search engines will start popping up all over the place. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if this censorship started an open source project to allow everyone to create their own search engines.

    • guest

      There are plenty around the net, as well as several deep-water searcher tools. What we have to do is just search a bit more. Fakkiu MAFIAA!!!

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Start?

      Um…

      http://zooie.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/a-comparison-of-open-source-search-engines-and-indexing-twitter/

      Proof-of-concept and prototypes already exist in abundance. Once a single open standard allowing metaindexing is implemented, we already have a replacement.

      The only thing lacking for such a project to take off is that Google still remains the most easily accessible and complete search engine. so far.

  • None

    what companies are trying to do, is MANIPULATE THE NET, in order to be REPRESENTED without the concurrence of FREE FULLY LEGAL freeware or creative commons contents. In this stage, you see that pointing about COPYRIGHT, companies claim to do a LEGITIMATE request to search engines, but what amount of time need to be elapse before that companies start censuring freeware, opensource and so on… for their own profit? if google cedes to companies, the door is open to such type of abuses and others.

  • maryhinge

    the only outcome can be more publicity for both torrents and censorship, (and how to circumnavigate it will become common knowledge) . each and every action the big nobs in film and music make, creates a new wave of institutional haters among the public. if the industry wants us to buy their products this is not how it is going to happen. Stupid Stupid Stupid. I call the lot of them Lawyer Huggers, as in the term Tree huggers, when resistance to a new road/bypass project is not wanted. Well, the time of dumb artists like Robbie Williams, signing multi million pound contracts and churning out something akin to an alien with the squirts on a squatter, are numbered, the artists in both film and music and books are now turning to their own resources to gain success, making real money instead of working for the pension funds of yesteryears money leaches

  • Good Lord

    That’s what you get for doing ANYTHING morons.
    1.) You aren’t being respected for doing more than the law requires to “help” the entertainment industry out
    (or at least do something they claim will help them, as if anyone but them should care.)
    2.) You have suckered yourself into a policy that, were you to ever relax, you will be branded a rouge site
    (what the hell did you think was going to happen once you became their bitch, that they’d give you a good time just for playing ball?)
    3.) Now governments will start accepting the reasoning “Google, the largest and most popular search engine, censors content we don’t like! So should .”
    (Fuck you.)

    /sodamnpissed

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Yes, this is the price Google is paying for spending their money on creative and worthwhile investment instead of, say, lobbying.

      Cute world, innit?

  • Sweethart

    and most of the people here will still vote for obama.
    Please realize that during his reign we have seen the greatest downfall in scene warez and general torrenting.

    • Guest

      Implying that Mitt “Surgically Attached To Corporate America’s Cock” Romney would save us?

      The deck is stacked, bro. It’s a “choice” between two identical motherfuckers.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        In regards to this one issue, yes. In regards to multiple others, they are as different as a white guy and a guy painted pink and yellow polka dots.

      • When

        No, it was clearly a choice between those two identical corrupt motherfuckers and EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT WHO YOU ARE FREE TO VOTE FOR.

        The very fact that you think there’s no other choice shows how unfit for the responsibility of democracy many ‘merkins are.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Sock puppet one or sock puppet two you mean?

      Honestly, in this race, as usual, it’s a very close call between which is the least damaging.

      Honestly, if Obama would just jettison Biden he’d come out on top over Romney. Though I think you’d need an electron microscope to spot the difference.

      • ScrewEwe2

        As of the time of this post, Obama and Biden have been re-elected for another 4 year term. Starting tomorrow the republicans will be talking non stop about who they’re going to run for Prez in 2016. I like watching Senate and Congressional hearings when the legislation is of interest to me, but I am so fucking sick and tired of politics and the politicians.

    • Roswell1701

      Very perceptive. :)

    • Wallace

      Yeah, you basically have to weigh our right to information against gay people’s rights to basic liberties.

      This is an ugly election.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      You joking? It would be no better under Romney, you idiot supreme. In fact, it would probably be worse under Romney.

    • Fredrika

      > “Please realize that during his reign we have seen the greatest downfall in scene warez and general torrenting.”

      Downfall?

      In reality there are more scene warez, torrents and torrent sites than ever before? And even if the opposite was true, what’s to say it would have been any better with an ignorant republican president such as McCain or Romney in control?

      The only logical conclusion is that you are a dishonest desperate republican that are trying to trick people into voting for Romney by arguing with logical fallacies.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Well, to be honest, bear in mind that we actually don’t see either pro-republicans or pro-democrats coming out and saying their candidate is the best choice. Only that the opposition is the worst.

        I think on many levels even diehard long-time rep/dem fanatics are slowly waking up to the fact that their own party isn’t serving them anything palatable either. This in itself is a good sign, i think.

  • Apexdigit

    One wonders if the sites Goggle is supposed to delete are the endless bogus entries that will promise everything from movies not yet completed to your own wedding movies but deliver nothing but ads and malware. Do these censors really believe that a site that promises a Blu-ray rip of a movie that has yet to open theatrically or a title that doesn’t even exist is a valid site? Too bad they can’t concentrate on telemarketers.

    • The_Strawbear

      Yes, it would be nice if goggle was petitioned not to link to bogus sites by the govt instead, if they’re going to be censoring, they might as well censor the obviously damaging stuff.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Problem is that Google cannot tell what is a ‘bogus’ site and they removed the one EASY way to tell them what was a bogus site a long time ago.

  • Anonymous

    the UK are only doing the Google vendetta because the US is. they cant do anything for themselves and are as influenced by the lies put out by the BPI as the US government is by RIAA, MPAA, MAFIAA and Hollywood, not forgetting all the bought politicians involved as well! i must admit it makes me wonder why anyone bothers to get a business going at all? perhaps all these idiotic politicians are going to start their own search engine and force all the others out of business? that could prove interesting!

  • ForestSilverwood

    “If so-called ‘pirate sites’ can make it to the top of the rankings with their comparatively limited resources, why can’t the giants of the music industry do the same – without Google’s help?”

    That’s the billion-trillion dollar question.

    The answer? the big players want to play by their outdated rules, not the internet’s rules.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Too true. Can you imagine if napster had become the legal option way back when? TPB wouldn’t exist – or at most be filling a minor niché role.

    • Tactical Nuclear Penguin

      The answer, the big media companies don’t want to download to you, the consumer as it is against their marketing agenda. If they did offer cheap downloadable music from their current and back catalogues the search results would show that. Instead their refusal to offer what the consumer wants reflects in the search results and will continue to do so for the forseeable future until they adapt to the new marketplace or die from a lack of trying.
      At least Avis, who was number two, tried harder.

  • Violated0

    I doubt little can disgust me more. Google simply searches the whole web and orders results by popularity. Here they are not addressing the real problem in that people are searching for and wanting torrents which results in the popularity ranking.

    So even if Google did censor out the top 20+ results to remove such sites then yes this only pushes lessor known sites to the top. The torrent popularity has not been removed which is why Google, the MPAA and others will always have a problem. Then even if Google is very successful then this popularity will only switch to another search engine.

    You also have to ask with many search engines around why do they now target only Google? That is of course is because long ago Google agreed to cooperate with the MPAA/RIAA and more. Since these people are NEVER SATISFIED then Google became their bitch toy. Now that Google is seen to not obey their commands than they only want to remind Google who’s bitch they are.

    Well Google signing up to DMCA law when they hosted no infringing content themselves was not the brightest idea. Now of course people are wanting Google to go far beyond established law.

    I am sorry to have to say to Google that there is only one way out of this censorship mess and what they should have done from day one. That is to have to expert lawyers figure what the law says and then to draw a line in the sand at this point telling these evil lobbying organizations “You shall not cross”.

    So since what they now want is not supported by law then Google should say “denied” and to tell them to change the law if they have to. Then let us see the UK Government wheel out draconian law and show to the entire World what unreasonable censorship bastards they really are.

    I can also say that the public won’t be happy with a law and they would demonstrate against it. Organizations like Google and the EFF would also challenge this new law in Court and I highlight doubt it would be compatible with EU law. It is very much against freedom of information and against to not criminalize HTTP links.

    Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Google knows that one well which is why at some point they do need to mobilize and fight.

    • The_Strawbear

      Exactly, it’s like how they banned alcohol in America, expecting no-one to want it any more once they’d done so.

    • Techanon

      draw a line in the sand at this point telling these evil lobbying organizations “You shall not cross.”

      http://gorillafilmmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/Gandalf-You-Shall-Not-Pass-Ian-McKellen.png

    • OccamsKatana

      I wonder if it would appease the Powers That Be if Google indeed did filter out infringing sites, but gave you a button you could click that said: “SHOW ME ALL RESULTS”. A simple click of this button would unfilter the results. Google could show in their transparency reports that a majority of the users want UNFILTERED results. We don’t want censorship. We are tired of our Governments trying to tell us what we can and can’t see/hear/know. They are trying to drag third world countries into democracy, but at the same time, pushing first world nations back into the stone ages and dictatorship. They say we have democracy, but we don’t have a say. Stand up and vote, you say? For whom? Tweedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber? We don’t have a choice.

      Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Democracy allows eligible citizens to participate equally—either directly or through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws. It encompasses social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.

      Oh, we live in a republic, not a democracy….. I think too much is going on behind the scenes without or knowledge or consent

      A republic is a form of government in which the country is considered a “public matter” (Latin: res publica), not the private concern or property of the rulers, and where offices of states are subsequently directly or indirectly elected or appointed rather than inherited. In modern times, a common simplified definition of a republic is a government where the head of state is not a monarch.

      This sounds more like it:

      A dictatorship is defined as an autocratic form of government in which the government is ruled by an individual: a dictator. It has three possible meanings
      A government controlled by one person, or a small group of people. In this form of government the power rests entirely on the person or group of people, and can be obtained by force or by inheritance. The dictator(s) may also take away much of its peoples’ freedom.
      In contemporary usage, dictatorship refers to an autocratic form of absolute rule by leadership unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state.

      Don’t be fooled folks….. Democracy is an illusion.

      • OccamsKatana

        In reply to the above, please, with a show of hands, who thinks the US is operating above, beyond, and outside the law? Think about it…..

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          We have. The bottom line is that yes, the United States is operating beyond and outside the law.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Well, to be bluntly fair, if you can define what the law is, you can not be said to operate beyond it.

          Of course, they do have a tendency to operate within a new legal paradigm before they actually implement the legislation allowing them to. Minor details…

          Sarcasm /off

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003037095323 Jerilyn Nighy

    Search was always overrated. Curated lists since the mid 90′s were always more useful. The links come to you now, more often, anyway. Or it is a simple matter to ask someone.

  • Andrew Lee

    The idea of killing a websites rank is flawed.. Well kind of if you look at the way I do and here is an example.

    “the dictator” -youtube -imdb -amazon -fandango -apple -yahoo -netflix -empireonline -redbox -flixster -ew
    https://www.google.com/search?q=the+dictator&num=100&start=900
    filetype:torrent the dictator
    ext:torrent ^
    “the dictator warez” or ddl,download,streaming,online,free and a whole bunch of other shit lol.
    intitle:the dictator torrent or intitle:”the dictator torrent” or allintitle: the dictator torrent or inurl:the dictator torrent or inurl:”the dictator torrent” or allinurl::the dictator torrent or intext:the dictator torrent

    Killing ranks only works if you do not utilize the search parameters that Google offers.

    • The_Strawbear

      Seems a lot of effort since the censorship on google isn’t worth a damn anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003037095323 Jerilyn Nighy

    Anyhow, the MPAA and the RIAA should be booted from the web, since they violate the original intention of hypertext.

    • 7th_Guest

      You’re misunderstanding your enemies, Jer. The AAs are just Big Content’s political, lobbying and litigious arm; they’re pretty much a collection of highly paid, revolving-door originating lawyers that are almost exclusively interested in their self-preservation. They have next to zero interest in having any kind of internet presence beyond just maintaining a cursory site just to let the “right” people know how to get in touch with ‘em. Other than that though, they have nothing to offer the vast masses roaming the ‘Net, so even if their sites were to disappear, or be perpetually DDoSed, nothing would change as they could probly do their lawyerin’ over any other comm medium just as easily. It’s their bosses and their deep, corruptive pockets than we should be focusing on if we are deal any serious blows and get ahead in this fight for civil rights and freedoms, not their flunkies’ websites.

  • Xdebug

    I really hate Google for pirate searching. (There are still good things left but general searches its getting crappier)

    I use BING sometimes…

    • Thebossisadouche:)

      I’ll pray or you, child.

  • Anyone

    why should google show legal alternatives when you search for “the dictator torrent”
    clearly you want a torrent and not something to pay

    the MAFIAA should make their offerings more appealing to costumers, but if UltraViolet is the best they can do they are doomed to fail

    • YoHoFiddleDeeDee

      Or maybe I just want to download a version of a product that isn’t mired in DRM bullshit that I can:
      1) Play NOW, not next week
      2) play on ANY devices of my choosing, not the MPAA/RIAA/ElectronicArts choosing
      3) reinstall as many times as I need to, without having to call support
      I could make the list longer, but you should be able to get the point that its not about costs, its about their outdated business model not giving me what I want that forces me to go to what DOES, even if what does is considered illegal. Look at steam, thats technically DRM but pretty much nobody cares (or even thinks of it as DRM) because steam gives ppl what they want when they want without a hassle.

      • YoHoFiddleDeeDee

        TV killed the radio star.
        The internet has all but killed the printing press and the overpriced distribution models used by the music and movie industries.

        The ice industry suppressed the AC for years. Our current situation goes deeper than just copying things we’re told we shouldn’t.

        Trying to leverage the law to stop progress, disgustingly works for a number of year. Next time you hear someone say “where the hell are our flying cars?” remind them how easy it is to stifle competition innovation and progress.

  • Arielle Smith

    These comments have given Google a much more lenient report card than I expected. Google is offering consumers the means through which they can obtain pirated (ie stolen) goods. They are the conduate, the enabler for many piraters. Google was first asked, not demanded, to remove these sites from their search engines as a measure to discourage, or make more difficult, illegal downloading. Unfortunately, as is often the case, voluntary change is extraordinarily difficult to achieve. Google is trying to find loopholes to the requests to “have its cake and eat it too.” By making pathetic attempts to please the content industries without making serious reforms, they are trying to stay on everybody’s good side. The problem here is that there is a right and a wrong side to this argument. Piracy is a serious problem, both economically and morally, and Google, arguably the most popular search engine in the country, is aiding the continuation of pirating tactics. They need to step up and become a more ethical company and take a stand against piracy and those who commit it.

    • Anyone

      the right side is to not censor
      if people want to search for “illegal” downloads, google should show them
      if people want to search for “legal” downloads, google should show them

      the problem is, in most parts of the world there are no legal downloads, and that is not Google’s fault

      • IDIOCRACY

        Actually in the Netherlands ALL downloads are legal, even from an illegal source
        so what do the semantics tell us here…. duh. hehe

      • Doofus

        I want to rob this bank. Stop censoring me.

    • Guest

      “pirated (ie stolen) “

      False.

      “They are the conduate, the enabler for many piraters.”

      True.

      “Piracy is a serious problem, both economically and morally”

      False.

      http://torrentfreak dot com/file-sharers-buy-30-more-music-than-non-p2p-peers-121015/
      http://torrentfreak dot com/bittorrent-piracy-boosts-music-sales-study-finds-120517/
      http://torrentfreak dot com/file-sharers-buy-more-movies-121018/
      http://www.google dot com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=filesharers+buy+more

      Your final grade: D-.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Are you saying Thomas Jeffersson was an immoral man because he did not believe in copyright?

      No, back it up a step here. Copying isn’t stealing. This has been established by every court in the land, including SCOTUS.

      Hence your moral argument falls by the roadside even before you’ve started. In fact, starting out with baseless and irrelevant lying and guilt-by-association gets you literally nowhere.

      Well, it does persuade every reader that you are an irrelevant prick, but not much else.

      Secondly, EVERY LAST ITEM YOU JUST TRIED TO PUSH was in fact hashed out in the 50′s. Before that in varying iterations the conflict was between the church demanding monopoly on interpreting scripture and later on again, the then-nascent musicians unions were demanding the self-playing piano to become illegal. You people have lost every legal battle and every time you’ve tried to argue your cause you immediately fall of any kind of moral ground by resorting to lying.

      Now, let me spell out the current situation, It’s quite simple. Decentralized alternatives to Google already exist. If or when Google begins to comply with your witless demands, Google immediately drops from it’s market position, committing instant suicide. Hence what Google is being asked to do – continually – is to commit harakiri.

      And this is simply because the demands which have been offered include so many false positives that a Google search engine which actually even tried to comply would, by necessity, immediately filter legitimate sites as well.

      Once that happens they become as popular as a mapmaker known to make erronous maps on purpose.

      In short…whatever happens to Google, you lose. A lot of money and effort spent for no gain and a large and creative company ruined for no apparent purpose.

      Fine, it’s no skin off our noses. The internet as a whole has shown that short of breaking it completely, every power – government or private – is completely and utterly powerless to prevent anyone from sending whatever they like to whoever they like. In quite a lot of jurisdictions if said communication is a copy of a media file it even falls under “fair use”.

      What amazes me is how you people can be so utterly ignorant in your attitudes given the ample amount of evidence shown by Iran and China that censoring the internet, in the long run, is infeasible. You can choose. An internet or no internet. If there is one, filesharing will be, for all purposes, rampant.

      That being the case it’s high time for copyright maximalists to read the writing on the wall and do what they did not have the moxie to do in the days of napster.

      Or you can keep up what you are doing right now – which is ironically, word for word, what was said when the cassette tape was invented, and later on the VCR. Oddly enough, empirical evidence from all sides support the view that actually, “piracy” isn’t even harmful to the industry. In short all you do is perpetuating a lie going all the way back to the 50′s and beyond.

      Don’t you think even a smidgeon of honesty might serve better?

      • Guest

        Remember, anti-piracy nutjobs have to pull data out of their asses to prove anything.

        • Guest

          So, by your own definition the pirates are lying because the industry, according to pirates, are lying. That certainly clears it up then. Clearly – according to you – piracy isn’t about morals, brokering a fairer deal for artists or new business models – it’s about getting stuff for free whilst pretending to be interested in any of those things. That would explain why people don’t simply boycott and refuse to consume any media but instead continue to take it for free.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Well, when the copyright industry presents figures claiming that they lose 42 times what the entire world produces in GNP…You immediately cease to wonder where they get their “facts” from.

          And at “Guest” below – No, pirates tend to back up their claims with empirical evidence and peer-reviewed studies.

          The copyright industry claims they lose 42 times the turnover of the entire world annually and back this up with a statement from a CEO with a vested interest.

          It is quite clear that the person claiming that the sun is a cheese wedge must be considered the less credible one in any argumentation regarding astrophysics and it is similarly clear that the copyright industry as a whole gave up their claim to credibility in the 50′s.

          You see, they all swore there would be no music twenty years down if cassettes were allowed to exist and they swore no more movies would be made in the age of VCR. And yet it turns out that their claims on what construes a “threat” to creative businesses is actually repetitively false.

      • Guest

        ” Oddly enough, empirical evidence from all sides support the view that actually, “piracy” isn’t even harmful to the industry. ”

        If that is actually the case then what is the point of pirates saying that they are seeking to destroy the industry? If your assertion is right then their actions have no bearing. Are they lying or just misguided?

        • Guest

          “Destroy” the industry, and any vocabulary along the lines of killing the industry, were used first by the industry and its representatives. They claimed that piracy was “killing” them, just as home taping was killing music. The point of pirates saying it is merely to use the industry’s words against them.

        • Guest

          “”Destroy” the industry, and any vocabulary along the lines of killing the industry, were used first by the industry and its representatives. They claimed that piracy was “killing” them, just as home taping was killing music. The point of pirates saying it is merely to use the industry’s words against them.”

          So they are confused. They are not “Pirates” but “Parrots”, that explains a lot.

        • Guest

          So, by your own definition the pirates are lying because the industry, according to pirates, are lying. That certainly clears it up then. Clearly – according to you – piracy isn’t about morals, brokering a fairer deal for artists or new business models – it’s about getting stuff for free whilst pretending to be interested in any of those things. That would explain why people don’t simply boycott and refuse to consume any media but instead continue to take it for free.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “If that is actually the case then what is the point of pirates saying that they are seeking to destroy the industry? If your assertion is right then their actions have no bearing. Are they lying or just misguided?”

          They are misguided.

          Piracy – as in noncommercial infringement – has been shown many times not to be any threat. Indeed, most studies performed show a minor increase in sales due to piracy. Piracy in the form of Trademark infringement is another kettle of fish as that undermines the actual trademark and reputation of the product.

          However, you could make a case that the industry is capable of destroying itself. Given that pirates have been shown to be the greatest paying customers as well, what the industry is doing is punishing their own biggest consumers. In the end that means disillusionment and a revenue drop-odd.

          One example which I’ve heard in MANY iterations is the fan who’s bought a band’s song in vinyl, cassette, and CD over the years. When he for convenience’s sake downloads a copy of the same for his iPhone/iPod he is immediately branded by said band as a “thief”. The same happens if he downloaded a song (or taped it off radio) and bought the record as a gift to friends or loved ones.

          As a result not only does he feel unfairly treated, he won’t even be able to listen to the band’s music with delight anymore . This happened to Metallica whose fan base shrank by quite a lot after napster.

          The pirates calling for the destruction of the industry are of this kind. The real truth is that downloading is powerless to affect sales. Bad will by customers is not. That clarify it for you?

        • Guest

          @ Scary_Devil_Monastery. Thanks for that. What your post confirms / clears up is the fact that you don’t have a tenable position in relation to piracy. On the one hand you state “Indeed, most studies performed show a minor increase in sales due to piracy.” and then just four paragraphs later you directly contradict this by saying “The real truth is that downloading is powerless to affect sales.” Thanks anyway.

      • maryhinge

        Hear! Hear!

    • Pelham123

      “Unfortunately, as is often the case, voluntary change is extraordinarily difficult to achieve. ”

      Especially when it’s factually impossible.

      I don’t “refuse” to grow wings and fly to the moon.

    • Pelham123

      “Piracy is a serious problem, both economically and morally”

      The usual flags here as well -

      1) How serious a problem economically is piracy? The facts overwhelmingly say it is not. I don’t fault the wheel for squeaking, but just because Axe says it will “fix you up” does not mean that’s what body spray does.
      2) It’s not Google’s job to hold users’ behavior to a moral standard, especially one that so many people disagree on.
      3) It’s not government’s job to hold users’ behavior to a moral standard, especially one that so many people disagree on.
      4) Enforcement of existing laws in the case of “piracy” is often immoral even though it’s legal. Morality isn’t a one way street. If users and Google can behave immorally, so can rightsholders. If you want accountability on one side, demand it on both sides. Suing poor people and kids to prove a point to shareholders is morally offensive.

      • MadAsASnake

        If we believe them, the copyright industries would be making 8x global GNP if it weren’t for “piracy”. There is a serious economic problem here. The elimination of piracy would not solve it.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Actually the numbers claimed as “lost sale” suggests 42 times global GNP, not 8 times.

          Of course that doesn’t exactly make it a better estimate.

    • Fredrika

      It’s always good when new individuals take an interest in a topic, and try to participate in a debate. However, one should usually learn some basics first, before trying to come to any conclusions. Not doing so will only lead to one’s comment becoming a meaningless display of one’s own embarrassing ignorance, such as your comment above, which many already rightfully so ripped apart in great detail.

      For your sake, i lifted a bunch of words from your comment and made a help list of concepts which you evidently understand nothing about, and it would be in your own interest to read up on these topics before commenting again. Ok?

      means
      obtain
      pirated
      stolen
      goods
      conduate
      enabler
      discourage
      illegal
      voluntary
      loopholes
      pathetic
      content
      right
      wrong
      piracy
      serious
      problem
      economically
      morally
      aiding
      tactics
      ethical

      Is this enough, or would you like me to add to the previous comments that ripped your comment apart, explaining in detail how you used every singe one of these words completely wrong in your comment? Although very young at age, i’m always willing to help ignorant people. I believe a society’s value is determined by how we treat the elderly, the sick, the dangerous, the ignorant, the stupid, the meaningless, the unethical and immoral pods that roam around on our streets.

      • Fkingdoms

        That makes two people who can’t spell “conduit”.

        • Fredrika

          > “That makes two people who can’t spell “conduit”.”

          The words in italic was copy-pasted from the comment i replied to, they were not rewritten by me. I did notice the spelling, but respelling it or commenting on his spelling with a sic would only have risked confusing him even further. =)

    • MadAsASnake

      As you say, change is hard, and when it comes to updating business models to the 21st century, nigh on impossible with MPAA /RIAA and so on. Piracy is not a serious problem – most of it is undetectable, always has been and nothing Google does will change that. Piracy, as you call it, may be growing because the copyright industries are not making sensible business offerings. The torrent rankings are a simple expression of this. Censoring Google will do nothing to change that either. I agree that Google is trying to win both sides. It can’t, MPAA, RIAA, BPI etc will never, ever be satisfied.

      • Realist

        It’s so funny when you guys try to say piracy hasn’t caused any harm.

        Everyone just rolls their eyes at you, chuckles, and moves along.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Except for the scientists who have actually collated empirical data on “piracy” and come to the conclusion that indeed, it does no harm.

          I’m sure the clergy in their day chuckled at Galileo also. That didn’t help much.

    • Keke

      How is piracy bad? I pirate buy I buy a shitload of official merchandise and music and video.

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  • Leprophete

    The Lord’s Prayer (Matthew 6:9-13)

    “Our Father in heaven,
    hallowed be your name.
    Your kingdom come,
    your will be done,
    on earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread,
    and forgive us our debts,
    as we also have forgiven our debtors.
    And lead us not into temptation,
    but deliver us from evil.

  • warcaster

    Google was dumb to accept this in the first place. Mike from Techdirt was right. MPAA/RIAA will NEVER EVER be happy, and they’ll keep demanding MORE and MORE. Google should’ve known this. The more they give them, the more they’ll want because they think they are getting their way.

    • No

      That’s because the overall objective is not to simply make Google comply with the MAFIAA’s demands. It’s more of a way of building a giant, insurmountable barrier to entry that even Google wouldn’t be able to scale (since they forgot to do so when Google was in its fledgling days) and run them out of business so the copyright industry can replace them.

  • Thom

    Why does Google even bother trying to comply. Nothing will satisfy the MPAA unless all search results for torrents are removed.

    Google should just shut down their UK search engines completely.

    • Wallace

      “Google should just shut down their UK search engines completely.”

      That would be their only recourse … which is why this effort by the UK is doomed.

      • MadAsASnake

        … like they did in China?

  • Who

    “Pirate” do they even know or remember what an actual Pirate is?

    REAL Pirates STOLE stuff that actually had REAL value. like gold and silver. they also stole DIRECTLY from the rich, and kept it for themselves. they did NOT share it.

    making a copy of ANY CD does NOT = Piracy and it also does NOT mean that you are a Pirate.

    how does torrent downloading = steeling? IT DON’T, cause the user put it up and said here ya go.

    • IDIOCRACY

      Actually Pirates often had a “kaap brief” with them that allowed them by the government (The Netherlands) to pirate other nations ships for the benefit of the country, they stole mostly from the Spanish and Portuguese gold and silver transports from south America (which the Spanish stole from the Inca’s and Aztecs). hehe

      • YoHoFiddleDeeDee

        What you are saying is true, but to the nation they worked for they weren’t a pirate. Terms have changed over the years though (multiple times).

        Gosh, it doesn’t seem like it was such a long time ago when I first heard a microsoft representative talk about the difference between a commercial pirate and “casual piracy” which was at that time a new term. It was explained like this: The former was somebody making thousands of counterfeit duplicates to sell in place of the original, the second was passing the microsoft office install diskette around the office when we only purchased 1. Now you can’t even use a small clip in fair use without being accused of piracy via DMCA takedown notice…I sure feel old now.

  • Jimbo

    ‘If so-called ‘pirate sites’ can make it to the top of the rankings with their comparatively limited resources, why can’t the giants of the music industry do the same – without Google’s help?’

    simple. the industries are not in the slightest bit interested in doing that. they are interested in being in control of everything internet related and thick fucking politicians are helping as much as they can. once it happens and the result is actually seen and realised, only then will the disaster of what the internet becomes will be appreciated, ie, the ‘net will be no more, other than for governments and business. even then it will be at an extortionate price, diminishing the number of users still further. the ordinary people will be priced off completely or only able to use as allowed

  • Guest

    The problem isn’t with Googles rankings, but the amount of legal alternative. If you have few legal options then of course illegal copies will appear.

    Having only a handful of legal options doesn’t cut it. If the entertainment industry actually want to do something about piracy then it needs to loosen it grip on it licensing, buying a digital copy SHOULD NOT cost the same as a physical copy.

  • techspec

    Why do people say yandex is better than google now?

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    What’s the answer to “mounting pressure” from international rights-holders?

    The key to this arrogance is “Mounting pressure from the Public….”

    Why do Rights Holders perpetually want more?

    Because they know that the existing political establishment will give them more.

    Why does Google give them “more”?

    Because Google knows that the coming political conflagration between Corporate Rights-Holders and “The Public” over the future of Intellectual property distribution has not begun to burn and boil yet.

    Both Google and the usual subjects politicians can still look out from their windows and see calm sunny skies. Perhaps it’s not a real hurricane over the horizon.

    Google will wait for “The Public” to decide whether it cares or doesn’t care.

    What will “The Public” decide?

    Who knows?

    But the last time that the politicians tried to deliver “the full smourgasbourg” to Copyright Holders, (in PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA,) “That Public” burned them to a nice hot crisp. It just wasn’t enough to improve the politicians. Fire’s gotta be hotter next time.

    • YoHoFiddleDeeDee

      No, there needs to not be a next time – leave the fire ON and never let up. Don’t stick to a single topic once its defeated, continue to demand that this sort of crap never even be suggested ever again in any way shape or form!

  • Makaren

    if google make one step to far, it will loose it popularity as a search engine and company as all.

    • Anyone Remember Yahoo

      exactly. google should be very worried about this – if they are forced to stop listing results for 20% of their customer base then that 20% will simply go off to another search engine. internet users are fickle and have no brand loyalty. if you are not giving them what they want then they will go somewhere else. and once they have bookmarked whoever will give them the results they want they will not be back…

  • maryhinge

    actually ixquick seems better and uses https as standard(can be turned off for thrillseekers) also it seems to return true results so needs a little tweaking to stop a constant barrage of nudity when searching for innocent things like soft porn and the like, not that i look at those sites on a regular basis in any capacity what so ever, honest
    https://www.ixquick.com/

  • http://madis.myopenid.com/ madis_l

    Few minor copyright infringements – its just another small price we have to pay to have freedom of speech…

  • Thebossisadouche:)

    As much as Google has frustrated me over the course of their life time, they always seem to be holding the ACE no one was expecting. I do agree with all the comments damming them for following along, however, they are actually held responsible since they are the ones returning the results. It would be like person a not being held accountable to the fact that person b was delivering server beat downs in his garage. person a can and should be relieved of responsibility when they are fully unaware of what person b does, however once it is brought to As attention and nothing is done to prevent you have support in what is considered an illegal action.

    Please do not misunderstand, I do not think that uploading a copy you made is any more illegal than playing a song or a friend that they have never heard before. Ad to that all the evidence that all this “illegal” activity has actually made the entertainment industry hat much more wealthy.

    Now, if you want to try to make an argument for staving musicians and the like, you need to realize that they have a very narrow, imho, gap of forgiveness. The music industry, as the easiest example, has had the same horrible, anal penetrating contracts that effectively take everything away from musicians since 19… actually, the whole time. Most of the verbiage isn’t even in complicated legalize, so anyone with a 3rd grade education should be able to spot the threat as well as the fact that no one forced them to sign it. It was voluntary on part of the “artist” and they are all grown up now and should be responsible for their own actions, just as the music industry should be responsible for theirs…

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Third-party liability can only be taken so far however.

      In many real terms given the amount of information Google is handling, all over the world what you are saying is, in effect, the same as holding a government responsible for what a local newspaper is saying.

      Assume, in this case, that a newspaper in denmark posts a caricature of the prophet mohammed holding a bomb.

      How much liability does the danish government have when the law which is violated is exclusive to nations practicing sharia law? Even then the way Google is being held responsible goes even further – it’s comparable to the government having to assume liability for the fact that a private citizen commented on the newspapers cartoon and linked to it.

      At which point in time someone expects the danish government to cut the private individuals web page off the net.

      That’s a more accurate depiction of Googles “third-party liability” in this case. Don’t forget that we aren’t talking about handing knives to assassins or even meth recipes to convicts.

      We are talking about the equivalent of forcing a publisher to cut the pages out of the phonebook which describes purveyors of chemistry books.

  • Ahah

    Content Industries are busy whinging about losing money…Then stop wasting the money on lawyers and legal challenges. Even If they win, they will just drive the pirating underground into a full-time encrypted communication media, which has already started (Usenet, for example). How about the content industries be happy with the huge amount of money they are already getting and be happy in the fact that they have been ripping people off for generations.

    • Show Me The Greed

      when have capitalists ever been happy to say “yep that’s enough money, lets stop there”. never gonna happen.

  • Kelly8333

    many pirate site fully covered 1st to 10 page after the new algorithm applied, all legit site are pushed to 30 page above. Even the rightholder site also rank in 10 page above

  • Suthorlando

    Bring down one site, ten of the previous users make their own just like it. Let’s give these greedy sh*tbags a warm welcome to the internet.

  • Terryg

    why dont Google try something really subversive, and filter ALL sites with MPAA/RIAA content – legitimate or not

  • Anonymous

    like elsewhere, the UK is still in financial shit street and instead of doing something more to help get things back on track, get the economy running, they are spending time, money and effort on this! what a waste! what a joke! goes to show that pleasing their bum-chums is more important to Cameron and co. than sorting out the country’s problems!

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  • Rusty Shackelford

    I still find everything through Google. Using the scene release name always works. Even then if sites are taken down, they usually have a link on the taken down request site, though it might take a while for them to update it.

  • Goosmoo

    Let’s just make things simple. The UK (and US) government should just go to people’s houses and watch what they type real-time so that they can make sure people are not trying to find copyrighted material. There will need to be a lot more government employees for this, obviously, so they should just raise taxes significantly and cut spending in less important areas like health care, education, and national security. Because nothing in this world is more important than making sure people don’t use Google to find the latest episode of some crappy reality tv show. I don’t live in the UK, but I am happy to see the UK government has their priorities straight!

    /endsarcasm

    • Goosmootoo

      never end the sarcasm

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  • austinhamman

    google, stop listening to these goons, they will NEVER be happy because they don’t know what they want, or more over what they want is impossible you will never satisfy them, they will always want more and it will be your fault for not giving it to them. make it your policy not to censor results and stick to it, because if you give them an inch they will want a mile.

  • desbest

    In the 1st image of “the dictator download” there are 10 illegal webpages linked in the search results.

    In the 2nd image there are 7 illegal webpages linked, and 3 legal ones.

    Don’t the UK Government and RIAA realise that a COMPUTER FILTERING ALGORITHM can never be perfect?

    They should be grateful that Google are so good at making up algorithms, and kindly ask Google to improve and cut it some slack.

    What the RIAA and US government wants Google to do, is censor the domains from the top infringers list from the transparency report.

    Considering how youtube is the number 1 infringer, that is a bad idea for obvious reasons.

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