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	<title>Comments on: ISPs To Send &#8220;Hundreds of Thousands&#8221; of File-Sharing Warnings</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Kasparov</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-480862</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Kasparov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death to those who dare force there ways against the will of the people.

Market forces are in action - people have the right to share with each other, it is a natural premise aand those who oppose sharing are going against this order.

We would not exist if their selfish wways were the natural order, the sselfish and greedy will die out because they have no place on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death to those who dare force there ways against the will of the people.</p>
<p>Market forces are in action &#8211; people have the right to share with each other, it is a natural premise aand those who oppose sharing are going against this order.</p>
<p>We would not exist if their selfish wways were the natural order, the sselfish and greedy will die out because they have no place on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziet</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-472821</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BE are owned by O2!!!

https://www.bethere.co.uk/generalFAQ.do#faq3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BE are owned by O2!!!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bethere.co.uk/generalFAQ.do#faq3" rel="nofollow">https://www.bethere.co.uk/generalFAQ.do#faq3</a></p>
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		<title>By: PJ____</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-470007</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ____</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone must start using Peerguardian or an isp guard to make it harder for there isp`s to see what they are downloading, its a free download. They want a war lets give them one!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone must start using Peerguardian or an isp guard to make it harder for there isp`s to see what they are downloading, its a free download. They want a war lets give them one!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Don't trust the greedy corporate liars</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-468899</link>
		<dc:creator>Don't trust the greedy corporate liars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Dark Knight is now estimated to make somewhere between $155 - $160 million this weekend, shattering the $151 million record held by Spider-Man 3 and massively out-performing expectations. To put it in some perspective, Batman Begins&#039; opening weekend take was less than a third of that, at $48,745,440. In fact, the opening weekend of The Dark Knight will be make more money than the entire theater run of George Clooney&#039;s Batman And Robin ($107,325,195)&quot;

Proof that file sharing isn&#039;t hurting the profits of these industries. Their greed is the problem. They don&#039;t like the idea of someone sharing their music,films etc with others because they foolishly believe that these people would buy the product , which we all know simply isn&#039;t true. Most people before the Internet would share their records/tapes/movies with friends directly.
Now it is via the Internet these industries can &#039;see&#039; the sharing, but it has always been there. Their greed is the problem, no one is going to go out of business and the so called lost revenue is a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Dark Knight is now estimated to make somewhere between $155 &#8211; $160 million this weekend, shattering the $151 million record held by Spider-Man 3 and massively out-performing expectations. To put it in some perspective, Batman Begins&#8217; opening weekend take was less than a third of that, at $48,745,440. In fact, the opening weekend of The Dark Knight will be make more money than the entire theater run of George Clooney&#8217;s Batman And Robin ($107,325,195)&#8221;</p>
<p>Proof that file sharing isn&#8217;t hurting the profits of these industries. Their greed is the problem. They don&#8217;t like the idea of someone sharing their music,films etc with others because they foolishly believe that these people would buy the product , which we all know simply isn&#8217;t true. Most people before the Internet would share their records/tapes/movies with friends directly.<br />
Now it is via the Internet these industries can &#8217;see&#8217; the sharing, but it has always been there. Their greed is the problem, no one is going to go out of business and the so called lost revenue is a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: It wasn't me</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-468894</link>
		<dc:creator>It wasn't me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple solution when they send the letter, contact the ISP and explain that your network is wireless and not encrypted, therefore it could easily be one of your neighbours! 

There is no current law to force you to protect your network from other people; therefore they have no grounds to ever cut you off. There wouldn&#039;t be a court in the land that would be able to find against you. Plus this is simply a civil matter so you can tell them to go f**k themselves ultimately.

Not long to go anyway, Gordon Brown&#039;s pisspot excuse for a government is about to implode under the weight of it&#039;s own shit policies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple solution when they send the letter, contact the ISP and explain that your network is wireless and not encrypted, therefore it could easily be one of your neighbours! </p>
<p>There is no current law to force you to protect your network from other people; therefore they have no grounds to ever cut you off. There wouldn&#8217;t be a court in the land that would be able to find against you. Plus this is simply a civil matter so you can tell them to go f**k themselves ultimately.</p>
<p>Not long to go anyway, Gordon Brown&#8217;s pisspot excuse for a government is about to implode under the weight of it&#8217;s own shit policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: limonene</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-468349</link>
		<dc:creator>limonene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;re they gonna tell whats legal from illegal?

also BE unlimited is owned by O2 as of 2006

Pirates used to be a few guys in boats stealing sugar, they tried to get rid of them then and now there are 6 million. they should just cut their losses and leave the filesharers to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;re they gonna tell whats legal from illegal?</p>
<p>also BE unlimited is owned by O2 as of 2006</p>
<p>Pirates used to be a few guys in boats stealing sugar, they tried to get rid of them then and now there are 6 million. they should just cut their losses and leave the filesharers to it.</p>
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		<title>By: meeee</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-466887</link>
		<dc:creator>meeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if there going to start this well i hope the fcukers goes bankrupt and everyone canceling,to be honest can,t see this working by sending everyone a letter...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if there going to start this well i hope the fcukers goes bankrupt and everyone canceling,to be honest can,t see this working by sending everyone a letter&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Rob H</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-465936</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Regarding the BPI wanting UK ISP&#039;s to cut off, after 3 strikes, the estimated 6 million customers illegally downloading music. I read somewhere that the BPI estimates that they are &#039;loosing&#039; over a billion in annual sales due to this practice. I did some quick calculations and assuming that these 6 million customers are paying around Â£30 pm for their b/b service, this comes to a loss of over a billion pounds annually to the ISP&#039;s. The BPI is in effect asking UK ISP&#039;s to take this loss instead of them. Given that the 6 million b/b down loaders are actual paying customers, as opposed to a notional similar loss to the BPI from people who might have bought music, this is a ludicrous suggestion for them to make.&quot;



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Even the price of stamps to warn us will be high.... just think about how many people will recive letters then times it by 3 because thats how many we will recive... 5p per stamp at the most? thats a lot of money... 

Lets face the facts... they are never going to stop us even if they catch the occasional person and fine them we have still downloaded more then the fines worth in dvds, cds, games...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Regarding the BPI wanting UK ISP&#8217;s to cut off, after 3 strikes, the estimated 6 million customers illegally downloading music. I read somewhere that the BPI estimates that they are &#8216;loosing&#8217; over a billion in annual sales due to this practice. I did some quick calculations and assuming that these 6 million customers are paying around Â£30 pm for their b/b service, this comes to a loss of over a billion pounds annually to the ISP&#8217;s. The BPI is in effect asking UK ISP&#8217;s to take this loss instead of them. Given that the 6 million b/b down loaders are actual paying customers, as opposed to a notional similar loss to the BPI from people who might have bought music, this is a ludicrous suggestion for them to make.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Even the price of stamps to warn us will be high&#8230;. just think about how many people will recive letters then times it by 3 because thats how many we will recive&#8230; 5p per stamp at the most? thats a lot of money&#8230; </p>
<p>Lets face the facts&#8230; they are never going to stop us even if they catch the occasional person and fine them we have still downloaded more then the fines worth in dvds, cds, games&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-465876</link>
		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah like this is the Queen&#039;s fault. I love the Royal family, unlike that wonky-eyed cunt Gordon Brown and his money grabbing/wasting bunch of imbeciles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah like this is the Queen&#8217;s fault. I love the Royal family, unlike that wonky-eyed cunt Gordon Brown and his money grabbing/wasting bunch of imbeciles.</p>
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		<title>By: saablaa</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-465871</link>
		<dc:creator>saablaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james 150 

How do you download torrents in stealthnet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james 150 </p>
<p>How do you download torrents in stealthnet</p>
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		<title>By: AnarchyNow</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-465514</link>
		<dc:creator>AnarchyNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KILL THE QUEEN KILL THE ROYAL INBRED FAMILY !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KILL THE QUEEN KILL THE ROYAL INBRED FAMILY !</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-465186</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brits.  Try this out.. Getting more popular all the time. Totally anonymous + encrypted.

http://www.stealthnet.de/en_index.php

I feel sorry for you guys that your government is so stupid and cruel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brits.  Try this out.. Getting more popular all the time. Totally anonymous + encrypted.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stealthnet.de/en_index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.stealthnet.de/en_index.php</a></p>
<p>I feel sorry for you guys that your government is so stupid and cruel.</p>
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		<title>By: #YLS#</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-465178</link>
		<dc:creator>#YLS#</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to update with a extra bit of news... http://www.openrightsgroup.org/newsblog/2008/07/government-targets-80-filesharing-reduction/

They plan to reduce downloading piracy by 80%

This seems rather a high mark considering how the UK goverment has shown it&#039;s self to be useless at any aspect involving computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to update with a extra bit of news&#8230; <a href="http://www.openrightsgroup.org/newsblog/2008/07/government-targets-80-filesharing-reduction/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openrightsgroup.org/newsblog/2008/07/government-targets-80-filesharing-reduction/</a></p>
<p>They plan to reduce downloading piracy by 80%</p>
<p>This seems rather a high mark considering how the UK goverment has shown it&#8217;s self to be useless at any aspect involving computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-465010</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say goodbye to people bying seperate Hard-Drives, DVD+-R/W, CD+-R/W, unlimited internet connection etc. lol.

I don&#039;t find it completely funny as I do download alot of stuff but the goverment have not thought this through.

They will lose out as people who download movies and music are people who wouldn&#039;t buy the stuff if it wasn&#039;t free.

So they lose revenue in form of the above extras (dvd-discs, cd-discs, hard drives, unlimited internet connection charges) and don&#039;t gain anything because no-one would buy the stuff they&#039;ve stopped us downloading anyway.

lol, I know I&#039;m right and can&#039;t wait for the goverment and industries to realise this (no free advertising, no nothing).

Fucking whingeing twat stains</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say goodbye to people bying seperate Hard-Drives, DVD+-R/W, CD+-R/W, unlimited internet connection etc. lol.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find it completely funny as I do download alot of stuff but the goverment have not thought this through.</p>
<p>They will lose out as people who download movies and music are people who wouldn&#8217;t buy the stuff if it wasn&#8217;t free.</p>
<p>So they lose revenue in form of the above extras (dvd-discs, cd-discs, hard drives, unlimited internet connection charges) and don&#8217;t gain anything because no-one would buy the stuff they&#8217;ve stopped us downloading anyway.</p>
<p>lol, I know I&#8217;m right and can&#8217;t wait for the goverment and industries to realise this (no free advertising, no nothing).</p>
<p>Fucking whingeing twat stains</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-464907</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Encryption won&#039;t help from your torrent downloader that just hides you from the ISP - if even that. The BPI watch the IPs of a bunch of MP3s trace all the IPs they see to the ISP, if its one of the big 6 then post them an IP, date and whatever - they can&#039;t get much more then the ISP, who can identify who was on that IP at that time will send you a letter. there is no data protection  breach there is no encruption - the BPI - the end user can see your IP the encryption in things like Utorrent only encrypts the transfered data not your IP.

One really decent way is to mask your IP, VPNs work really well, the BPI would ONLY see your IP as foreign and leeve you well alone, your isp can also then only see a bunch of encrypted data. Just choose a &#039;safer&#039; country to host your VPN - ie NOT here or USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Encryption won&#8217;t help from your torrent downloader that just hides you from the ISP &#8211; if even that. The BPI watch the IPs of a bunch of MP3s trace all the IPs they see to the ISP, if its one of the big 6 then post them an IP, date and whatever &#8211; they can&#8217;t get much more then the ISP, who can identify who was on that IP at that time will send you a letter. there is no data protection  breach there is no encruption &#8211; the BPI &#8211; the end user can see your IP the encryption in things like Utorrent only encrypts the transfered data not your IP.</p>
<p>One really decent way is to mask your IP, VPNs work really well, the BPI would ONLY see your IP as foreign and leeve you well alone, your isp can also then only see a bunch of encrypted data. Just choose a &#8217;safer&#8217; country to host your VPN &#8211; ie NOT here or USA.</p>
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		<title>By: lixxus</title>
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		<dc:creator>lixxus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding us getting ripped off here in the UK. its because of the stupid VAT tax 17.5%

the government are cunts. they tax us on everything. soon we gonna get taxed on air</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding us getting ripped off here in the UK. its because of the stupid VAT tax 17.5%</p>
<p>the government are cunts. they tax us on everything. soon we gonna get taxed on air</p>
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		<title>By: lixxus</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-464797</link>
		<dc:creator>lixxus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i suggest you guys. sign up to private trackers and enable encryption. so they dont know what ur downloading. also piratebay has ssl encryption on there site. so is useful for concealing shit. and stop them from sniffing. if this shit gets out of hand. im guess rapidshare and similar sites will get very popular. these cunts are already monitoring gnutella network. anyone using limewire of similar client protocol should reconsider</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i suggest you guys. sign up to private trackers and enable encryption. so they dont know what ur downloading. also piratebay has ssl encryption on there site. so is useful for concealing shit. and stop them from sniffing. if this shit gets out of hand. im guess rapidshare and similar sites will get very popular. these cunts are already monitoring gnutella network. anyone using limewire of similar client protocol should reconsider</p>
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		<title>By: spudgun</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-464787</link>
		<dc:creator>spudgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First there is no longer a GREAT Britan!It is the same with anything that you buy in the UK weather it be a car,a suit or CD!A complete RIP OFF!Most things are produced here,printed and packaged etc.Then we can go th the shops and pay say Â£11.99 for a cd in the charts top 40 etc in the uk where as i said it was produced,to then go on holiday to say the usa and buy what was produced here for half the price!!!!!!!!!!!ie should only cost a Fiver here which most people would be willing to pay if the album was half decent.So the morale is RIPP OFF BRITIAN!!!What do they expect to happen,Dim gits,best way if any threats is to just not use net at all ie no connection!Lets see how much they would loose from that!Probably nothing as the great MR BROWN (brown is also the colour of something i leave in the tiolet the PRATT)WIll just tax us on something else,the lucky motorist probably.I agree with what others have said and need to stand up to them!WE pay more for everything now lets enjoy the new gas prices! ENOUGH SAID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First there is no longer a GREAT Britan!It is the same with anything that you buy in the UK weather it be a car,a suit or CD!A complete RIP OFF!Most things are produced here,printed and packaged etc.Then we can go th the shops and pay say Â£11.99 for a cd in the charts top 40 etc in the uk where as i said it was produced,to then go on holiday to say the usa and buy what was produced here for half the price!!!!!!!!!!!ie should only cost a Fiver here which most people would be willing to pay if the album was half decent.So the morale is RIPP OFF BRITIAN!!!What do they expect to happen,Dim gits,best way if any threats is to just not use net at all ie no connection!Lets see how much they would loose from that!Probably nothing as the great MR BROWN (brown is also the colour of something i leave in the tiolet the PRATT)WIll just tax us on something else,the lucky motorist probably.I agree with what others have said and need to stand up to them!WE pay more for everything now lets enjoy the new gas prices! ENOUGH SAID.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-464727</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh.. fuckk. 

What next.. are they going to put CCTV cameras in our toilets....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh.. fuckk. </p>
<p>What next.. are they going to put CCTV cameras in our toilets&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-to-start-sending-mass-080724/#comment-464645</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sucks, 

I hope the persons WIFI I am using does not get into to much trouble :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sucks, </p>
<p>I hope the persons WIFI I am using does not get into to much trouble :P</p>
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