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		<title>By: CMG</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508929</link>
		<dc:creator>CMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that article say they&#039;re giving an umbrella for umbrellas? *snigger* Fools.

Music writers hate you, anti-p2p!!!

When will they die like they have been asked to? So rude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that article say they&#8217;re giving an umbrella for umbrellas? *snigger* Fools.</p>
<p>Music writers hate you, anti-p2p!!!</p>
<p>When will they die like they have been asked to? So rude.</p>
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		<title>By: TerribleTony</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508899</link>
		<dc:creator>TerribleTony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They still don&#039;t get it.

It&#039;s impossible to stop, the game is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to stop, the game is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508868</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rose, you are thinking like an intelligent adult.&quot;

Beware the praise of an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rose, you are thinking like an intelligent adult.&#8221;</p>
<p>Beware the praise of an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508812</link>
		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@65
Everywhere I go, I see the infestation of this corrupt culture. Something tells me that as long as the laws are as they are, this horrid culture will continue to stay and infest in the social sphere. How many people exactly are turning to indie labels? I see not much of it.

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@65<br />
Everywhere I go, I see the infestation of this corrupt culture. Something tells me that as long as the laws are as they are, this horrid culture will continue to stay and infest in the social sphere. How many people exactly are turning to indie labels? I see not much of it.</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: UK Music Groups Launch Super Anti-Piracy Coalition &#124; The Movie Post</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508759</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Music Groups Launch Super Anti-Piracy Coalition &#124; The Movie Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Orange-Dark</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508720</link>
		<dc:creator>Orange-Dark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people, calm down. there is no way anyone can control internet-for one reason only its constantly expanding and developing-this means for every new sucker presenting a ban on sth comes at least ten ppl like me who WILL find a way to bypass or destroy that restriction-if ppl in china manage to go through their firewalls, stan so can the western world.

bOOm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people, calm down. there is no way anyone can control internet-for one reason only its constantly expanding and developing-this means for every new sucker presenting a ban on sth comes at least ten ppl like me who WILL find a way to bypass or destroy that restriction-if ppl in china manage to go through their firewalls, stan so can the western world.</p>
<p>bOOm</p>
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		<title>By: domacile</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508628</link>
		<dc:creator>domacile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Fergal Sharkey is like a bad smell!

All the before mentioned industry associations will be propt up by a failed business model.

Someone should tell them, it&#039;s not about the numbers, it&#039;s about the vision.

“The thing we all realized is that we all agree with each other 95% of the time. It’s looking at where the industry is going to be three, four or five years from now.” 

The industry will be one of portfollio artists, self-publishing and generaly cutting out the middle-man and, that means you the industry associations.

These artists will have economies of scale if there work is good enough, long gone are the days where an artist can ride the back of a mass marketing campaign and, sell a load of phiffle.

Your music is your marketing campaign.

You get these artists, giving it the big-un, going on as if there the trendy dog&#039;s schalackers, &quot;I&#039;m from the streets&quot;..(rock-stars, home-boy&#039;s)...but when it comes down to it.

They make there pact with grasses, who will shop there own followers to the old bill....that&#039;s not gangster...that&#039;s not real to the streets.

Furgal Sharkey or Frugal shark!...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Fergal Sharkey is like a bad smell!</p>
<p>All the before mentioned industry associations will be propt up by a failed business model.</p>
<p>Someone should tell them, it&#8217;s not about the numbers, it&#8217;s about the vision.</p>
<p>“The thing we all realized is that we all agree with each other 95% of the time. It’s looking at where the industry is going to be three, four or five years from now.” </p>
<p>The industry will be one of portfollio artists, self-publishing and generaly cutting out the middle-man and, that means you the industry associations.</p>
<p>These artists will have economies of scale if there work is good enough, long gone are the days where an artist can ride the back of a mass marketing campaign and, sell a load of phiffle.</p>
<p>Your music is your marketing campaign.</p>
<p>You get these artists, giving it the big-un, going on as if there the trendy dog&#8217;s schalackers, &#8220;I&#8217;m from the streets&#8221;..(rock-stars, home-boy&#8217;s)&#8230;but when it comes down to it.</p>
<p>They make there pact with grasses, who will shop there own followers to the old bill&#8230;.that&#8217;s not gangster&#8230;that&#8217;s not real to the streets.</p>
<p>Furgal Sharkey or Frugal shark!&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508596</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we don&#039;t need to organize. more and more people are not listening to the radio, MTV doesn&#039;t play any music, the records the majors want us to buy are getting worse and worse, being made for some theoretical person that does not exist, driving sales down. All the while, people are turning to indie labels and bands that do everything themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we don&#8217;t need to organize. more and more people are not listening to the radio, MTV doesn&#8217;t play any music, the records the majors want us to buy are getting worse and worse, being made for some theoretical person that does not exist, driving sales down. All the while, people are turning to indie labels and bands that do everything themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508592</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fucking extend 50 year copyright...yeah...great...we all know 50 years isn&#039;t enough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fucking extend 50 year copyright&#8230;yeah&#8230;great&#8230;we all know 50 years isn&#8217;t enough</p>
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		<title>By: annoyance</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508580</link>
		<dc:creator>annoyance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please wait! don&#039;t go.

i trade you two chickens and one goat.

yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please wait! don&#8217;t go.</p>
<p>i trade you two chickens and one goat.</p>
<p>yes?</p>
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		<title>By: nice try</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508578</link>
		<dc:creator>nice try</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there is no place for intelligence&quot;

huh?  Did you mean &quot;this&quot; is no place for intelligence? I find the witty comments entertaining.  I dont think intelligence is in the RIAA handbook oh wait maybe it is

1) try and flame people who criticize the organization.

2) In the event you are made to look particular stupid claim the site for free speech is full of idiots and people living in their moms basement
(despite reality being quite the opposite). 

Personally I dont infringe anything. Everything I download/seed falls under the fair dealing provisions of the canadian copyright act.  If you cant accept that their are laws in many countries to protect citizens from  extortionists like yourself, than maybe your the one lacking intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there is no place for intelligence&#8221;</p>
<p>huh?  Did you mean &#8220;this&#8221; is no place for intelligence? I find the witty comments entertaining.  I dont think intelligence is in the RIAA handbook oh wait maybe it is</p>
<p>1) try and flame people who criticize the organization.</p>
<p>2) In the event you are made to look particular stupid claim the site for free speech is full of idiots and people living in their moms basement<br />
(despite reality being quite the opposite). </p>
<p>Personally I dont infringe anything. Everything I download/seed falls under the fair dealing provisions of the canadian copyright act.  If you cant accept that their are laws in many countries to protect citizens from  extortionists like yourself, than maybe your the one lacking intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasoned Mind</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508569</link>
		<dc:creator>Reasoned Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rose, you are thinking like an intelligent adult. On a piracy site populated daily with freeloaders and liars, infringers and pimply faced good-for-nothings in their Mom&#039;s basement, there is no place for intelligence. And you knew that all along. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose, you are thinking like an intelligent adult. On a piracy site populated daily with freeloaders and liars, infringers and pimply faced good-for-nothings in their Mom&#8217;s basement, there is no place for intelligence. And you knew that all along. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508564</link>
		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@59
How can we really be better decentralized? What can guerrillas do? How can guerrillas win over people in government? How can guerrillas become more successful in pushing an agenda? Unity in a social and political movement is key to its success. Without unity, there can only be failure. Even guerrillas need some unity, however decentralized it is. What ultimately needs to change is policies in government, and that cannot happen by &quot;guerrilla warfare&quot; alone. Unless people are prepared to do drastic things in this &quot;guerrilla warfare&quot; - like make public denunciations, make public demands, stir people to action, engage in civil disobedience, and go to protest meetings, then nothing will happen. Without unity, there can be no successful political or social movement. After all, a successful political or social movement is defined by what unifies it.

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@59<br />
How can we really be better decentralized? What can guerrillas do? How can guerrillas win over people in government? How can guerrillas become more successful in pushing an agenda? Unity in a social and political movement is key to its success. Without unity, there can only be failure. Even guerrillas need some unity, however decentralized it is. What ultimately needs to change is policies in government, and that cannot happen by &#8220;guerrilla warfare&#8221; alone. Unless people are prepared to do drastic things in this &#8220;guerrilla warfare&#8221; &#8211; like make public denunciations, make public demands, stir people to action, engage in civil disobedience, and go to protest meetings, then nothing will happen. Without unity, there can be no successful political or social movement. After all, a successful political or social movement is defined by what unifies it.</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508563</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>file sharers don&#039;t need an umbrella organization we work better decentraized like now. shutting down Napster was the initially succesful invation of our home land and now it&#039;s guerilla warfare and we&#039;re winning. and besides there&#039;s always EFF if needed they&#039;re like our soviet funding :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>file sharers don&#8217;t need an umbrella organization we work better decentraized like now. shutting down Napster was the initially succesful invation of our home land and now it&#8217;s guerilla warfare and we&#8217;re winning. and besides there&#8217;s always EFF if needed they&#8217;re like our soviet funding :D</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508542</link>
		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sharkey will be expected to unify all the hopes and dreams of all the other umbrella groups under his guidance, whilst influencing the decision makers in government, which should become easier with the recent arrival at UK Music of Jo Dipple, the former strategic communications adviser to the Prime Minister.&quot;

Answer me, all of you who know:
What are our (the file-sharers&#039;) hopes and dreams? If we have hopes and dreams, do not you all think it would be best to unify them as well? Do not we also wish to influence decision makers in government? Shouldn&#039;t we also be trying to win over influential people in government?

&quot;In 2009, UK Music will deliver a manifesto calling for government support in propping up the ever more bloated music industry - probably starting at the bar of one of many additional black-tie ‘umbrella’ events UK Music will spawn.&quot;

Answer me, all of you who know:
What shall our (the file-sharers&#039;) manifesto be? What shall we call for government to do? When shall we start issuing this manifesto?

I think that these are important questions. The music industry have already set X, Y, and Z as goals. What goals do we have? What are we doing/will do to achieve them? Surely, without thinking about these questions, nothing will get done on our behalf.

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sharkey will be expected to unify all the hopes and dreams of all the other umbrella groups under his guidance, whilst influencing the decision makers in government, which should become easier with the recent arrival at UK Music of Jo Dipple, the former strategic communications adviser to the Prime Minister.&#8221;</p>
<p>Answer me, all of you who know:<br />
What are our (the file-sharers&#8217;) hopes and dreams? If we have hopes and dreams, do not you all think it would be best to unify them as well? Do not we also wish to influence decision makers in government? Shouldn&#8217;t we also be trying to win over influential people in government?</p>
<p>&#8220;In 2009, UK Music will deliver a manifesto calling for government support in propping up the ever more bloated music industry &#8211; probably starting at the bar of one of many additional black-tie ‘umbrella’ events UK Music will spawn.&#8221;</p>
<p>Answer me, all of you who know:<br />
What shall our (the file-sharers&#8217;) manifesto be? What shall we call for government to do? When shall we start issuing this manifesto?</p>
<p>I think that these are important questions. The music industry have already set X, Y, and Z as goals. What goals do we have? What are we doing/will do to achieve them? Surely, without thinking about these questions, nothing will get done on our behalf.</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: 46</title>
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		<dc:creator>46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh
like special olimpics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh<br />
like special olimpics</p>
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		<title>By: TD123</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508531</link>
		<dc:creator>TD123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What. A load. Of Bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What. A load. Of Bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/uk-music-groups-launch-super-anti-piracy-coalition-081027/#comment-508530</link>
		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said, if the Music Groups are going to launch an umbrella organization/coalition, is it not about time that P2P-users also unite under an umbrella organization? Something needs to be as a counter-weight against this. Perhaps much of the nonsense will stop once this happens. What is most important is for pro-file-sharing people to unite. Only then can something REALLY positive happen.

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said, if the Music Groups are going to launch an umbrella organization/coalition, is it not about time that P2P-users also unite under an umbrella organization? Something needs to be as a counter-weight against this. Perhaps much of the nonsense will stop once this happens. What is most important is for pro-file-sharing people to unite. Only then can something REALLY positive happen.</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: www.eZee.se</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.eZee.se</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually its not, it was done by a christian colleague, not that it matters in any way... other than to people like you.

Its really nice of you to reply to my messages, its easier to see what kind of a person you are, for example we now know you are:

A person who eats up the media propaganda or helps spread it.

Pretty unintelligent

A &#039;dirty mouth&#039; when all your points are proven moot

and

a person who dislikes muslims, ALL muslims not just the crazy ones who blow themselves up.

I really am surprised you said muslim and not something like &#039;n*gger muslim&#039; or put &#039;jew&#039; in that sentence.

This is my last reply to you, so whatever further you have to say.. feel free to talk to yourself.

Good day! Now excuse me while I start up my p2p client.. after all if it was not for people like me these coalitions wouldnt exist now, would they? 
I create jobs too!!!!

:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually its not, it was done by a christian colleague, not that it matters in any way&#8230; other than to people like you.</p>
<p>Its really nice of you to reply to my messages, its easier to see what kind of a person you are, for example we now know you are:</p>
<p>A person who eats up the media propaganda or helps spread it.</p>
<p>Pretty unintelligent</p>
<p>A &#8216;dirty mouth&#8217; when all your points are proven moot</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>a person who dislikes muslims, ALL muslims not just the crazy ones who blow themselves up.</p>
<p>I really am surprised you said muslim and not something like &#8216;n*gger muslim&#8217; or put &#8216;jew&#8217; in that sentence.</p>
<p>This is my last reply to you, so whatever further you have to say.. feel free to talk to yourself.</p>
<p>Good day! Now excuse me while I start up my p2p client.. after all if it was not for people like me these coalitions wouldnt exist now, would they?<br />
I create jobs too!!!!</p>
<p>:D</p>
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		<title>By: Cygnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cygnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet piracy sure is providing a lot of jobs for people.  Look at all these groups that have employees working to stamp out piracy.  the thing is, if piracy goes away, they all lose their jobs.  So they don&#039;t REALLY want it to go away, just sue a few people/children/deceased corpses, so that they can get their paychecks (which i bet are rather large).</description>
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