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]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528774 Roze Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:09:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528774 "Little money to be made through non-commercial usages" refers to the comparative amount to be made through commercial usages. One academic named Hilden has already proposed this scheme of profiting through commercial usage instead. "the fact is (see what I did there?) only 38% of the people who downloaded “in rainbows” paid anything. and that’s for a rather cultish band that had 13 years of previous big label backing and marketing through capitol records!" In actuality, according to a Gallup poll, to the vast majority of people (above 80%), sharing makes no difference in their likeliness to buy a work. Those other 62% percent would not have bought anyways if it were not available for free. <i>there is a HUGE difference between having to rightfully pay for what you consume and choosing to pay for what you consume. “selling” is not the same as “charity”.</i> In actuality, nobody "has to" pay for any music/movies/&c. because people do indeed choose to pay for what they consume. For example, nobody "has to" watch a certain movie; people <i>choose</i> to see the movie. For people to see the movie in the first place for a certain price is indeed charity, because nobody really needs to see the movie. <i>1) box office is the smallest revenue source for the film industry (which makes you an idiot) 2) live performances are expected to eclipse recorded music sales this year for the first time ever and this is largely attributed to the increase in online piracy. (hardly what I’d call “much more money” especially considering it hasn’t even happened yet…which makes you an idiot) 3) the video game industry took in 32 billion last year selling games. You apparently think the majority of that was made through commercial halo tournaments (which makes you an idiot).</i> In addition to the fact that the Gallup poll mentioned above has shown that it makes no difference to whether people buy it or not, you have no citations that any of these three points are false, or, even if they are false <i>for the time being</i>, you have not proven that it is in fact, impossible for them to be true in the future. "Little money to be made through non-commercial usages" refers to the comparative amount to be made through commercial usages. One academic named Hilden has already proposed this scheme of profiting through commercial usage instead.

"the fact is (see what I did there?) only 38% of the people who downloaded “in rainbows” paid anything. and that’s for a rather cultish band that had 13 years of previous big label backing and marketing through capitol records!"
In actuality, according to a Gallup poll, to the vast majority of people (above 80%), sharing makes no difference in their likeliness to buy a work. Those other 62% percent would not have bought anyways if it were not available for free.

there is a HUGE difference between having to rightfully pay for what you consume and choosing to pay for what you consume. “selling” is not the same as “charity”.
In actuality, nobody "has to" pay for any music/movies/&c. because people do indeed choose to pay for what they consume. For example, nobody "has to" watch a certain movie; people choose to see the movie. For people to see the movie in the first place for a certain price is indeed charity, because nobody really needs to see the movie.

1) box office is the smallest revenue source for the film industry (which makes you an idiot)

2) live performances are expected to eclipse recorded music sales this year for the first time ever and this is largely attributed to the increase in online piracy. (hardly what I’d call “much more money” especially considering it hasn’t even happened yet…which makes you an idiot)

3) the video game industry took in 32 billion last year selling games. You apparently think the majority of that was made through commercial halo tournaments (which makes you an idiot).
In addition to the fact that the Gallup poll mentioned above has shown that it makes no difference to whether people buy it or not, you have no citations that any of these three points are false, or, even if they are false for the time being, you have not proven that it is in fact, impossible for them to be true in the future.

]]> By: El Partido Pirata aterriza en EE UU http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528755 El Partido Pirata aterriza en EE UU Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:03:35 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528755 [...] Partido Pirata ha abierto sucursal en casa de su mayor enemigo: California, la cuna de la industria cinematográfica. Desde ayer, esta formación política que ya ha cosechado algún éxito en Europa inicia sus [...] [...] Partido Pirata ha abierto sucursal en casa de su mayor enemigo: California, la cuna de la industria cinematográfica. Desde ayer, esta formación política que ya ha cosechado algún éxito en Europa inicia sus [...]

]]> By: HAHAHAH http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528737 HAHAHAH Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:41:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528737 Why even discuss this foul smelling FARCE called the US PIRATE PARTY? Flush it before it stinks up the room and move on to a serious political organization and not some pimply faced jokes. Why even discuss this foul smelling FARCE called the US PIRATE PARTY? Flush it before it stinks up the room and move on to a serious political organization and not some pimply faced jokes.

]]> By: fr33tard http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528589 fr33tard Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:08:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528589 “It is not irrelevant because you have used the word "freeloading," and it is part of the definition of the word "freeloading." You do not have to be so anti-dictionary.” -------------------------- LOL! the word “survivability” has nothing to do with the definition of “freeloading”. you are a f*cking idiot. saying i am “anti-dictionary” is just the icing on your failcake. please link me to the definition that mentions “survivability”. i dare you to try. “the fact is that it is much better to make money off of complimentary works instead.” -------------------------- LOL! a funny thing with your posts is that whenever you say “the fact is…” (which is annoyingly often i’m afraid) what invariably follows is the furthest thing from a fact as you could possibly get. you are confusing “opinions” and “facts” which makes you an idiot. “There is little money to be made through non-commercial usages” -------------------------- LOL! wow. just. wow. this might be the single dumbest thing you’ve ever posted here, and that is quite a feat... "so there is much more money from commercial usages, like screening in movies, or live performances, or things like that." --------------------------- LOL! 1) box office is the smallest revenue source for the film industry (which makes you an idiot) 2) live performances are expected to eclipse recorded music sales this year for the first time ever and this is largely attributed to the increase in online piracy. (hardly what I’d call “much more money” especially considering it hasn’t even happened yet…which makes you an idiot) 3) the video game industry took in 32 billion last year selling games. You apparently think the majority of that was made through commercial halo tournaments (which makes you an idiot). "The radiohead/NIN experiments have taught us the opposite of what you have stated. You do not have to be so anti-reality." ---------------------------- LOL! you are the last person that should be calling anyone “anti-reality”. Someone high out of their mind on LSD has a better grip on reality than you do. the fact is (see what I did there?) only 38% of the people who downloaded “in rainbows” paid anything. and that’s for a rather cultish band that had 13 years of previous big label backing and marketing through capitol records! “Even if donations are required, the fact is that this charity is no different from buying…To buy it is essentially to give charity…If you want to live off of selling "art," then you are living off of charity no matter what.” ---------------------------- LOL! there is a HUGE difference between having to rightfully pay for what you consume and choosing to pay for what you consume. “selling” is not the same as “charity”. why don't you take your own advice and crack open a dictionary? “Even if donations are required, the fact is that this charity is no different from buying…To buy it is essentially to give charity…If you want to live off of selling "art," then you are living off of charity no matter what.” ---------------------------- “It is not irrelevant because you have used the word "freeloading," and it is part of the definition of the word "freeloading." You do not have to be so anti-dictionary.”
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LOL!

the word “survivability” has nothing to do with the definition of “freeloading”. you are a f*cking idiot. saying i am “anti-dictionary” is just the icing on your failcake. please link me to the definition that mentions “survivability”. i dare you to try.

“the fact is that it is much better to make money off of complimentary works instead.”
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LOL!

a funny thing with your posts is that whenever you say “the fact is…” (which is annoyingly often i’m afraid) what invariably follows is the furthest thing from a fact as you could possibly get. you are confusing “opinions” and “facts” which makes you an idiot.

“There is little money to be made through non-commercial usages”
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LOL!

wow. just. wow. this might be the single dumbest thing you’ve ever posted here, and that is quite a feat…

"so there is much more money from commercial usages, like screening in movies, or live performances, or things like that."
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LOL!

1) box office is the smallest revenue source for the film industry (which makes you an idiot)

2) live performances are expected to eclipse recorded music sales this year for the first time ever and this is largely attributed to the increase in online piracy. (hardly what I’d call “much more money” especially considering it hasn’t even happened yet…which makes you an idiot)

3) the video game industry took in 32 billion last year selling games. You apparently think the majority of that was made through commercial halo tournaments (which makes you an idiot).

"The radiohead/NIN experiments have taught us the opposite of what you have stated. You do not have to be so anti-reality."
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LOL!

you are the last person that should be calling anyone “anti-reality”. Someone high out of their mind on LSD has a better grip on reality than you do. the fact is (see what I did there?) only 38% of the people who downloaded “in rainbows” paid anything. and that’s for a rather cultish band that had 13 years of previous big label backing and marketing through capitol records!

“Even if donations are required, the fact is that this charity is no different from buying…To buy it is essentially to give charity…If you want to live off of selling "art," then you are living off of charity no matter what.”
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LOL!

there is a HUGE difference between having to rightfully pay for what you consume and choosing to pay for what you consume. “selling” is not the same as “charity”.

why don't you take your own advice and crack open a dictionary?

“Even if donations are required, the fact is that this charity is no different from buying…To buy it is essentially to give charity…If you want to live off of selling "art," then you are living off of charity no matter what.”
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]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528543 Roze Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:44:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528543 Copyright does not enable artists to make a living. The only thing it does is control, not ensuring an income. Why don't you come up with evidence that people pay due to copyright? A Gallup poll has shown that copyright makes no difference in whether people pay or not, for the vast majority of people. Copyright does not enable artists to make a living. The only thing it does is control, not ensuring an income. Why don't you come up with evidence that people pay due to copyright? A Gallup poll has shown that copyright makes no difference in whether people pay or not, for the vast majority of people.

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528542 Roze Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:43:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528542 Copyright does not enable artists to make a living. Why don't you come up with evidence that people pay due to copyright? A Gallup poll has shown that copyright makes no difference in whether people pay or not, for the vast majority of people. Copyright does not enable artists to make a living. Why don't you come up with evidence that people pay due to copyright? A Gallup poll has shown that copyright makes no difference in whether people pay or not, for the vast majority of people.

]]> By: fr33tard http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528531 fr33tard Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:03:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528531 "it is still dubious that it is any "freeloading" due to the fact that one cannot survive off of music or movies" ------------------------------------------------ that is an irrelevant fact in regard to the definition of 'freeloading" which you still don't seem to understand. and pirates "trying to pay" doesn't put food on anyone's table or a roof over anyone's head. furthermore if the radiohead/NIN experiments taught us anything, it's that the VAST MAJORITY of pirates have no interest in paying even a single CENT directly to the artist in exchange for their hard work. and personally, i don't like being forced into a position dependant on charity, especially given how cheap the majority of your freeloaders have proven yourselves to be. "it is still dubious that it is any "freeloading" due to the fact that one cannot survive off of music or movies"
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that is an irrelevant fact in regard to the definition of 'freeloading" which you still don't seem to understand.

and pirates "trying to pay" doesn't put food on anyone's table or a roof over anyone's head.

furthermore if the radiohead/NIN experiments taught us anything, it's that the VAST MAJORITY of pirates have no interest in paying even a single CENT directly to the artist in exchange for their hard work.

and personally, i don't like being forced into a position dependant on charity, especially given how cheap the majority of your freeloaders have proven yourselves to be.

]]> By: fr33tard http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528529 fr33tard Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:57:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528529 i can understand how a hobbyist such as yourself would be content just to have a bunch of non-paying fans. what i don't understand is how you can't accept that some artists actually want to make a living doing what they love... i can understand how a hobbyist such as yourself would be content just to have a bunch of non-paying fans.

what i don't understand is how you can't accept that some artists actually want to make a living doing what they love…

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528540 Roze Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:44:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528540 <i>that is an irrelevant fact in regard to the definition of 'freeloading" which you still don't seem to understand. </i> It is not irrelevant because you have used the word "freeloading," and it is part of the definition of the word "freeloading." You do not have to be so anti-dictionary. Also, paying does indeed put food on the table, or a roof on somebody's head. Copyright does not even make people pay, who would not have paid int he first place. There is no evidence whatsoever that people pay due to copyright. Even if copyright does make people pay (which, of course, is false), the fact is that it is much better to make money off of complimentary works instead. There is little money to be made through non-commercial usages, so there is much more money from commercial usages, like screening in movies, or live performances, or things like that. The radiohead/NIN experiments have taught us the opposite of what you have stated. You do not have to be so anti-reality. Even if donations are required, the fact is that this charity is no different from buying. If people did not want to support the creators of a piece of work, then they choose not to buy it. To buy it is essentially to give charity. If you want to live off of selling "art," then you are living off of charity no matter what. that is an irrelevant fact in regard to the definition of 'freeloading" which you still don't seem to understand.
It is not irrelevant because you have used the word "freeloading," and it is part of the definition of the word "freeloading." You do not have to be so anti-dictionary.

Also, paying does indeed put food on the table, or a roof on somebody's head. Copyright does not even make people pay, who would not have paid int he first place. There is no evidence whatsoever that people pay due to copyright. Even if copyright does make people pay (which, of course, is false), the fact is that it is much better to make money off of complimentary works instead. There is little money to be made through non-commercial usages, so there is much more money from commercial usages, like screening in movies, or live performances, or things like that.

The radiohead/NIN experiments have taught us the opposite of what you have stated. You do not have to be so anti-reality.

Even if donations are required, the fact is that this charity is no different from buying. If people did not want to support the creators of a piece of work, then they choose not to buy it. To buy it is essentially to give charity. If you want to live off of selling "art," then you are living off of charity no matter what.

]]> By: magic_pants http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528417 magic_pants Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:55:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528417 Wikipedia has policies to get articles about unimportant things deleted. Here is the page on notability. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability</a> Wikipedia has policies to get articles about unimportant things deleted. Here is the page on notability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

]]> By: Jake J http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528416 Jake J Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:54:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528416 I'm moving to California this week. I'll add my signature. I'm moving to California this week. I'll add my signature.

]]> By: CHRoNoSS http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528427 CHRoNoSS Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:50:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528427 and don't ya love how Americans then come back and say were not a democracy.....a republic is a form of democracy, if you want more democracy strive for it. the system you have you think works best use it, if that is a republic then fine. all systems have flaws and as such value them all as they are at least trying to give voice to a common man in a crowd. and don't ya love how Americans then come back and say were not a democracy…..a republic is a form of democracy, if you want more democracy strive for it. the system you have you think works best use it, if that is a republic then fine. all systems have flaws and as such value them all as they are at least trying to give voice to a common man in a crowd.

]]> By: CHRoNoSS http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528422 CHRoNoSS Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:46:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528422 lets say they get some traction ya want to know why its a mixed bag if it takes votes mostly from the democratic party guess who gets power and may secretly wish this to be the case, we have seen that Ralph Nader may have in fact cost Al Gore a presidency and if you add a pirate party that gets a 1% or 2 or 5 then you got the George bush party in ...... What they should do that's WAY more effective is not JUST form that party but also form a lobby group that can offset the MPAA bribe er donate to politicians to show them you can have good or better gov't without having to take form the numb nut mpaa lets say they get some traction
ya want to know why its a mixed bag
if it takes votes mostly from the democratic party guess who gets power and may secretly wish this to be the case, we have seen that Ralph Nader may have in fact cost Al Gore a presidency and if you add a pirate party that gets a 1% or 2 or 5 then you got the George bush party in ……
What they should do that's WAY more effective is not JUST form that party but also form a lobby group that can offset the MPAA bribe er donate to politicians to show them you can have good or better gov't without having to take form the numb nut mpaa

]]> By: CHRONOSS http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528407 CHRONOSS Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:40:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528407 actually i do have a million friends if you'd like ill start and buy years end ill get there nick names and list them all. unlike you i actually have spent thousands of hours helping people in chats and thousands more meeting talking and YES making loads a friends and if i share to that friend and he shares to another why would i not consider his friend to be my friend. Thus we have the multitude of whats known as COMMONALITY. we are a community that as it walks the streets of the net we are friendly and say hi as we pass. It is no less different than saying hi as you pass your neighbors and no less different then smiling and saying have a wonderful day. and under current Canadian law i am breaking no laws, there is a levy that is in place and i would argue that the current laws have no benefit to society and that the copyright laws were originally formed to give the artist SOME compensation NOT keep me from enjoying the art at there set of costs. It is narrow minded and short sited to see the economic loss hollywood has incurred upon us all and like the NHL hockey players , they should get a lot less for there doings and as one person said at slash dot , it is not art anymore it is nothing more then a business. That is why artistic movies and music rarely see the light and if they do its rare. actually i do have a million friends
if you'd like ill start and buy years end ill get there nick names and list them all.
unlike you i actually have spent thousands of hours helping people in chats and thousands more meeting talking and YES making loads a friends and if i share to that friend and he shares to another why would i not consider his friend to be my friend.

Thus we have the multitude of whats known as COMMONALITY.
we are a community that as it walks the streets of the net we are friendly and say hi as we pass. It is no less different than saying hi as you pass your neighbors and no less different then smiling and saying have a wonderful day.

and under current Canadian law i am breaking no laws, there is a levy that is in place and i would argue that the current laws have no benefit to society and that the copyright laws were originally formed to give the artist SOME compensation NOT keep me from enjoying the art at there set of costs.

It is narrow minded and short sited to see the economic loss hollywood has incurred upon us all and like the NHL hockey players , they should get a lot less for there doings and as one person said at slash dot , it is not art anymore it is nothing more then a business. That is why artistic movies and music rarely see the light and if they do its rare.

]]> By: CHRONOSS http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528408 CHRONOSS Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:40:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528408 actually i do have a million friends if you'd like ill start and buy years end ill get there nick names and list them all. unlike you i actually have spent thousands of hours helping people in chats and thousands more meeting talking and YES making loads a friends and if i share to that friend and he shares to another why would i not consider his friend to be my friend. Thus we have the multitude of whats known as COMMONALITY. we are a community that as it walks the streets of the net we are friendly and say hi as we pass. It is no less different than saying hi as you pass your neighbors and no less different then smiling and saying have a wonderful day. and under current Canadian law i am breaking no laws, there is a levy that is in place and i would argue that the current laws have no benefit to society and that the copyright laws were originally formed to give the artist SOME compensation NOT keep me from enjoying the art at there set of costs. It is narrow minded and short sited to see the economic loss hollywood has incurred upon us all and like the NHL hockey players , they should get a lot less for there doings and as one person said at slash dot , it is not art anymore it is nothing more then a business. That is why artistic movies and music rarely see the light and if they do its rare. actually i do have a million friends
if you'd like ill start and buy years end ill get there nick names and list them all.
unlike you i actually have spent thousands of hours helping people in chats and thousands more meeting talking and YES making loads a friends and if i share to that friend and he shares to another why would i not consider his friend to be my friend.

Thus we have the multitude of whats known as COMMONALITY.
we are a community that as it walks the streets of the net we are friendly and say hi as we pass. It is no less different than saying hi as you pass your neighbors and no less different then smiling and saying have a wonderful day.

and under current Canadian law i am breaking no laws, there is a levy that is in place and i would argue that the current laws have no benefit to society and that the copyright laws were originally formed to give the artist SOME compensation NOT keep me from enjoying the art at there set of costs.

It is narrow minded and short sited to see the economic loss hollywood has incurred upon us all and like the NHL hockey players , they should get a lot less for there doings and as one person said at slash dot , it is not art anymore it is nothing more then a business. That is why artistic movies and music rarely see the light and if they do its rare.

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528421 Roze Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:29:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528421 Even if this particular definition is incorrect, it is still dubious that it is any "freeloading" due to the fact that one cannot survive off of music or movies &c., in addition to the fact that any actual benefits are dubious, since music/movies are just music/movies. Moreover, you are making a false ascription of the quality that file-sharers do not at least try to pay, whereas, for example, many would want to make a donation to the original creator - indicating that file-sharers do not freeload. Even if this particular definition is incorrect, it is still dubious that it is any "freeloading" due to the fact that one cannot survive off of music or movies &c., in addition to the fact that any actual benefits are dubious, since music/movies are just music/movies. Moreover, you are making a false ascription of the quality that file-sharers do not at least try to pay, whereas, for example, many would want to make a donation to the original creator – indicating that file-sharers do not freeload.

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528400 Roze Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:23:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528400 <i>only someone truly deluded</i> When you are poisoning the well with a preemptive like that, it makes the rest of your comment dubious. Also, there is a difference, but it is not in whether it is right or wrong. only someone truly deluded
When you are poisoning the well with a preemptive like that, it makes the rest of your comment dubious.

Also, there is a difference, but it is not in whether it is right or wrong.

]]> By: Shantih http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528396 Shantih Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:19:35 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528396 <i>upping your own posts using multiple accounts is most definitely "faking support"</i> Why should I take this reputation point system seriously? It is only something that I waste time on when I am bored. I meant actual substantial support: support in the substance of the comments themselves, which is what matters more. It makes no difference what name it is, after all, for what is in a mere username? However, if BenJones asks for the cessation of all activities with alternate IntenseDebate Accounts on TorrentFreak, then I can do so. I guess it is my lone opinion that I do not like IntenseDebate. upping your own posts using multiple accounts is most definitely "faking support"
Why should I take this reputation point system seriously? It is only something that I waste time on when I am bored. I meant actual substantial support: support in the substance of the comments themselves, which is what matters more. It makes no difference what name it is, after all, for what is in a mere username? However, if BenJones asks for the cessation of all activities with alternate IntenseDebate Accounts on TorrentFreak, then I can do so. I guess it is my lone opinion that I do not like IntenseDebate.

]]> By: fr33tard http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528397 fr33tard Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:47:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528397 "I don't know Shantih (aka Roze)" "BTW, what have I told you about sockpuppeting?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL! poor roze just doesn't learn... "The only thing you have stated so far is not to fake multiple support." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- please. upping your own posts using multiple accounts is most definitely "faking support". "I don't know Shantih (aka Roze)"

"BTW, what have I told you about sockpuppeting?"
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LOL! poor roze just doesn't learn…

"The only thing you have stated so far is not to fake multiple support."
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please. upping your own posts using multiple accounts is most definitely "faking support".

]]> By: fr33tard http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528381 fr33tard Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:37:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528381 It's legal to share copyrighted material with 20 people by inviting them over to my house to watch a movie every day, but give them each a copy of the movie and now all of a sudden it's wrong? That's bullshit. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- only someone truly deluded could fail to see the difference between a single viewing that depends on the hospitality of a single person and having your own copy (that you didn't pay for) which you can view however many times, whenever you want in the comfort of your own home... It's legal to share copyrighted material with 20 people by inviting them over to my house to watch a movie every day, but give them each a copy of the movie and now all of a sudden it's wrong? That's bullshit.
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only someone truly deluded could fail to see the difference between a single viewing that depends on the hospitality of a single person and having your own copy (that you didn't pay for) which you can view however many times, whenever you want in the comfort of your own home…

]]> By: fr33tard http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528432 fr33tard Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:25:48 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528432 "To "freeload" means to survive off of somebody else's property." ------------------------------------------------ uh, no it doesn't... please provide a link to this faulty description that mentions "property". "To "freeload" means to survive off of somebody else's property."
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uh, no it doesn't…

please provide a link to this faulty description that mentions "property".

]]> By: Shantih http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528420 Shantih Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:40:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528420 The only thing you have stated so far is not to fake multiple support. The definition of sockpuppet is as follows: an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. Since there is no deception intended, there is no sockpuppeting involved. The link that you have provided is broken. The only thing you have stated so far is not to fake multiple support. The definition of sockpuppet is as follows: an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. Since there is no deception intended, there is no sockpuppeting involved.

The link that you have provided is broken.

]]> By: Shantih http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528419 Shantih Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:40:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528419 The only thing you have stated so far is not to fake multiple support. The definition of sockpuppet is as follows: an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. Since there is no deception intended, there is no sockpuppeting involved. The only thing you have stated so far is not to fake multiple support. The definition of sockpuppet is as follows: an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. Since there is no deception intended, there is no sockpuppeting involved.

]]> By: BenJones http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528377 BenJones Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:13:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528377 I don't know Shantih (aka Roze) but a website notoriously run badly isn't it. Perhaps news reports, or TV segments (like this one on the US G4 - formerly techTV - flagship show from 2007 <a href="http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/679293/Porn_Industry_Fights_Piracy.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/679293/...</a>" target="_blank">http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/679293/...</a></a> BTW, what have I told you about sockpuppeting? I don't know Shantih (aka Roze) but a website notoriously run badly isn't it. Perhaps news reports, or TV segments (like this one on the US G4 – formerly techTV – flagship show from 2007 http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/679293/…

BTW, what have I told you about sockpuppeting?

]]> By: BenJones http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528376 BenJones Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:12:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528376 I don't know Shantih (aka Roze) but a website notoriously run badly isn't it. Perhaps news reports, or TV segments (like this one on the US G4 - formerly techTV - flagship show from 2007 <a href="http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/679293/Porn_Industry_Fights_Piracy.html" target="_blank">http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/679293/...</a> I don't know Shantih (aka Roze) but a website notoriously run badly isn't it. Perhaps news reports, or TV segments (like this one on the US G4 – formerly techTV – flagship show from 2007 http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/679293/…

]]> By: jjtripp http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528355 jjtripp Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:33:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528355 Roze, I am an artist, best thing in the world that could happen to me is that someone on the net would discover my music! I truly wait for the day that I can release my music in the wild, know that thousands of people are out there listening! I have a full time job, do not ever expect to be a ROCKSTAR! I want to just know someone is listening. To hear all these jerks in the media just amazes and exasperates me! You start this career just hoping that one day someone WANTS to hear you! I don't understand how any "artist" can be behind this. Roze, I am an artist, best thing in the world that could happen to me is that someone on the net would discover my music! I truly wait for the day that I can release my music in the wild, know that thousands of people are out there listening!
I have a full time job, do not ever expect to be a ROCKSTAR!
I want to just know someone is listening.
To hear all these jerks in the media just amazes and exasperates me!
You start this career just hoping that one day someone WANTS to hear you!
I don't understand how any "artist" can be behind this.

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528352 Roze Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:24:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528352 It is democratic, however, and therefore, the vote is supreme. It is democratic, however, and therefore, the vote is supreme.

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528351 Roze Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:22:01 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528351 I am with you. I do not download often myself, but I am sick of the idea that the copyright holders (meaning the industry) ought to have control of all transmission of information and communication that has copyrighted content in them. Who are they so arrogant to think that it is right that they can command what people do in the communication and transmission of information that could have copyrighted content in it? Who are they so arrogant to think that they ought to have the right to restrict people's right to communicate and transmit information to each other not only because it is copyrighted or has the possibility of being copyrighted? Copyright, the taking away of the right to communicate and transmit information merely because the information is copyrighted, is the massive censorship of our time in the supposed free world, a great threat to the freedom of speech. I am with you. I do not download often myself, but I am sick of the idea that the copyright holders (meaning the industry) ought to have control of all transmission of information and communication that has copyrighted content in them. Who are they so arrogant to think that it is right that they can command what people do in the communication and transmission of information that could have copyrighted content in it? Who are they so arrogant to think that they ought to have the right to restrict people's right to communicate and transmit information to each other not only because it is copyrighted or has the possibility of being copyrighted? Copyright, the taking away of the right to communicate and transmit information merely because the information is copyrighted, is the massive censorship of our time in the supposed free world, a great threat to the freedom of speech.

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528349 Roze Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:20:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528349 I am with you. I do not download often myself, but I am sick of the idea that the copyright holders (meaning the industry) ought to have control of all transmission of information and communication that has copyrighted content in them. Who are they to think that it is right that they can so arrogantly command what people do in the communication and transmission of information that could have copyrighted content in it? Who are they to think that they ought to have the right to restrict people's right to communicate and transmit information to each other not only because it is copyrighted or has the possibility of being copyrighted? Copyright, the taking away of the right to communicate and transmit information merely because the information is copyrighted, is the massive censorship of our time, a great threat to the freedom of speech. I am with you. I do not download often myself, but I am sick of the idea that the copyright holders (meaning the industry) ought to have control of all transmission of information and communication that has copyrighted content in them. Who are they to think that it is right that they can so arrogantly command what people do in the communication and transmission of information that could have copyrighted content in it? Who are they to think that they ought to have the right to restrict people's right to communicate and transmit information to each other not only because it is copyrighted or has the possibility of being copyrighted? Copyright, the taking away of the right to communicate and transmit information merely because the information is copyrighted, is the massive censorship of our time, a great threat to the freedom of speech.

]]> By: jjtripp http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528347 jjtripp Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:08:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528347 The fact remains that "WE THE PEOPLE" are supposed to be in control. I am not a pirate, as far as I can remember back, I have NEVER downloaded an illegal file. I just believe that if you want to use the internet to publicize your work, you should also expect people to not only view your work, but, also to use your work in their own projects. If I spend my time to look at what your latest, greatest project is, you should give me licence to try and expand on it! To all the people out there that do download files that "ARE NOT AVAILABLE" to most people....MORE POWER TO YOU! I just have never found the need to download questionable content. No matter what you think, feel or even believe, they are taking RIGHTS from us when they expect us to be touchie, feelie over their ip, but yet, not want tro put our 2 cents in. n00b to this forum, hope not to get flamed, but, this is my belief.... BTW, have volunteered. The fact remains that "WE THE PEOPLE" are supposed to be in control. I am not a pirate, as far as I can remember back, I have NEVER downloaded an illegal file. I just believe that if you want to use the internet to publicize your work, you should also expect people to not only view your work, but, also to use your work in their own projects. If I spend my time to look at what your latest, greatest project is, you should give me licence to try and expand on it!
To all the people out there that do download files that "ARE NOT AVAILABLE" to most people….MORE POWER TO YOU! I just have never found the need to download questionable content.
No matter what you think, feel or even believe, they are taking RIGHTS from us when they expect us to be touchie, feelie over their ip, but yet, not want tro put our 2 cents in.
n00b to this forum, hope not to get flamed, but, this is my belief…. BTW, have volunteered.

]]> By: Thomas http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528343 Thomas Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:23:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528343 The United States of America is a constitutional representative republic; it is not a democracy. The United States of America is a constitutional representative republic; it is not a democracy.

]]> By: The Doomsayer http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528342 The Doomsayer Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:01:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528342 You are using that image and you didn't create it eh? You're gonna get sued! You are using that image and you didn't create it eh? You're gonna get sued!

]]> By: Lisa Woods http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528332 Lisa Woods Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:49:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528332 Wow, I just love Pirate Parties!! <a href="http://www.internet-privacy.us.tc" target="_blank">www.internet-privacy.us.tc</a> Wow, I just love Pirate Parties!!

http://www.internet-privacy.us.tc

]]> By: Lesezeichen vom 30-01-2009 | PolkaRobot http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528353 Lesezeichen vom 30-01-2009 | PolkaRobot Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:45:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528353 [...] US Pirate Party Docks in California | TorrentFreak "In Europe, Pirate Parties have quite a following, especially in Sweden where a political scientist recently described them as a “classic civil right movement”. The U.S. Pirate Party hopes to replicate some of this success, and officially launched in California today, the home of the movie industry." (Tags: via:mento.info politics piracy copyright polkarobot) [...] [...] US Pirate Party Docks in California | TorrentFreak "In Europe, Pirate Parties have quite a following, especially in Sweden where a political scientist recently described them as a “classic civil right movement”. The U.S. Pirate Party hopes to replicate some of this success, and officially launched in California today, the home of the movie industry." (Tags: via:mento.info politics piracy copyright polkarobot) [...]

]]> By: Free Culture News » Pirate Party attempting to become recognized party in California http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528345 Free Culture News » Pirate Party attempting to become recognized party in California Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:24:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528345 [...] TorrentFreak [...] [...] TorrentFreak [...]

]]> By: MusikManiacs http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528318 MusikManiacs Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:25:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528318 <a href="http://musikmaniacs.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://musikmaniacs.blogspot.com</a> http://musikmaniacs.blogspot.com

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528350 Roze Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:23:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528350 I am with you. I do not download often myself, but I am sick of the idea that the copyright holders (meaning the industry) ought to have control of all transmission of information and communication that has copyrighted content in them. Who are they so arrogant to think that it is right that they can command what people do in the communication and transmission of information that could have copyrighted content in it? Who are they so arrogant to think that they ought to have the right to restrict people's right to communicate and transmit information to each other not only because it is copyrighted or has the possibility of being copyrighted? Copyright, the taking away of the right to communicate and transmit information merely because the information is copyrighted, is the massive censorship of our time in the supposed free world, a great threat to the freedom of speech. The industry has gained control over all communication and transmission of information that could transmit copyrighted information, and we the people need to gain the control back. The vote is the means by which this can be done. I am with you. I do not download often myself, but I am sick of the idea that the copyright holders (meaning the industry) ought to have control of all transmission of information and communication that has copyrighted content in them. Who are they so arrogant to think that it is right that they can command what people do in the communication and transmission of information that could have copyrighted content in it? Who are they so arrogant to think that they ought to have the right to restrict people's right to communicate and transmit information to each other not only because it is copyrighted or has the possibility of being copyrighted? Copyright, the taking away of the right to communicate and transmit information merely because the information is copyrighted, is the massive censorship of our time in the supposed free world, a great threat to the freedom of speech.

The industry has gained control over all communication and transmission of information that could transmit copyrighted information, and we the people need to gain the control back. The vote is the means by which this can be done.

]]> By: Pix http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528307 Pix Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:16:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528307 <a href="http://i44.tinypic.com/rua82u.jpg" target="_blank">http://i44.tinypic.com/rua82u.jpg</a> http://i44.tinypic.com/rua82u.jpg

]]> By: Pix http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528311 Pix Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:15:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528311 I did not make this image, but I felt it was need for this inparticular. [IMG]<a href="http://i44.tinypic.com/rua82u.jpg[/IMG]" target="_blank">http://i44.tinypic.com/rua82u.jpg[/IMG]</a> I did not make this image, but I felt it was need for this inparticular.

[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/rua82u.jpg/IMG

]]> By: http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528304 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:54:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528304 @NubCakes "I'm sick of this "because I share with my friends that I know and it's legal then filesharing is legal"". It's legal to share copyrighted material with 20 people by inviting them over to my house to watch a movie every day, but give them each a <i>copy</i> of the movie and now all of a sudden it's wrong? That's bullshit. Hmm... You somehow interpreted <i>"because I share with my friends that I know and it's legal then filesharing is legal"</i> from that? Tell me, did you hear a whooshing noise when the point flew over your head? @NubCakes
"I'm sick of this "because I share with my friends that I know and it's legal then filesharing is legal"".

It's legal to share copyrighted material with 20 people by inviting them over to my house to watch a movie every day, but give them each a copy of the movie and now all of a sudden it's wrong? That's bullshit.

Hmm… You somehow interpreted "because I share with my friends that I know and it's legal then filesharing is legal" from that?

Tell me, did you hear a whooshing noise when the point flew over your head?

]]> By: mandy http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528293 mandy Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:59:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528293 Im fat lol Im fat lol

]]> By: John http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528300 John Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:58:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528300 great stuff great stuff

]]> By: Jane http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528292 Jane Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:57:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528292 Im in too Im in too

]]> By: GreenTeaa http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528290 GreenTeaa Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:27:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528290 Such as who? Such as who?

]]> By: blank http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528289 blank Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:19:48 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528289 im sigging up ;] btw the link to wiki is pointing to nl wiki im sigging up ;]

btw the link to wiki is pointing to nl wiki

]]> By: Unidentified http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528287 Unidentified Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:13:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528287 and that makes you what, "retard" ? and that makes you what, "retard" ?

]]> By: Roze http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528284 Roze Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:10:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528284 <i>I never meant to deny that fact</i> You never did deny the fact. I was just elucidating on some additional facts. I never meant to deny that fact
You never did deny the fact. I was just elucidating on some additional facts.

]]> By: nerdd.net | news and opinion http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-docks-in-california-090129/#comment-528309 nerdd.net | news and opinion Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:07:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9236#comment-528309 <strong>US Pirate Party Docks in California | nerdd.net...</strong> \r\nIn Europe, Pirate Parties have quite a following, especially in Sweden where a political scienti... US Pirate Party Docks in California | nerdd.net…

\r\nIn Europe, Pirate Parties have quite a following, especially in Sweden where a political scienti…

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