“The pirate bay was founded by an anti copyright group (in other words, self centered pieces of crap), which just shows that they intend to disregard the law.”

Wow…self centered pieces of crap huh? Now tell me, how are the MPAA and the MAFIAA any different? Aren’t they also self serving pieces of shit? Yeah, sorry, you’re right, the MPAA and the RIAA are completely in the right, the copyright system is fine, and it doesn’t need reform. Dude, wake the fuck up, and take the corporate cock out of your mouth.

:)

are you sure?

There’s coffeeshops (pot stores), legally, in about every city more than one, and there’s people buying there, legally and accepted as well; but how can selling Y be legal if you’re not allowed to get it from anywhere but the shops itself (except perhaps the, also legal, home-grow (maximum 5 plants i believe)).. basically saying that this industry/businessmodel is illegal/impractical, yet thrives for at least 20 years.

(would make sense to state something like this over the music industry though: their industrial business model is illegal/impractical, but never judged as such to outlaw it)

(the drugs we’re talking about here are only hash & weed; for anyone listening in)

Never heard of addicted downloaders?

I’M HERE! :)

its not illegal and its not stealing dumbbell

Un grupo de Usenet holandés que desarrolla un software que permite a unos 450.000 usuarios buscar y encontrar material con derechos de autor en Usenet acaba de demandar a Brein (la SGAE holandesa), entidad que por su parte ya ha demandado a sitios de …

In the case of the drugs, that actually makes sense. You can’t blame someone for being addicted. But I never heard of addicted downloaders :).

“The pirate bay was founded by an anti copyright group (in other words, self centered pieces of crap), which just shows that they intend to disregard the law.”

And right there, you revealed yourself to be an utter prick.

A huge number of people disregard copyright, for one simple reason. It makes no god damned sense in this day an age.

Find a better way to monetise this shit, or fuck off. Personally, I don’t care which.

You are an idiot.

Perhaps you should actually read the article instead of spreading FUD. Downloading of music and films is legal in the Netherlands, regardless of the source, as long as it is for private use. The law states this, the Minister of Justice confirms this and it has been upheld in court several times.

‘People stealing things with torrents is not some new trend that the market has to adapt to’

A torrent file is a binary number stored on a computer. How on Earth would a torrent file aid you in stealing anything?

Downloading is NOT illegal in Netherlands, we don’t need a 2page lecture on Pirate Bay either, its a completely different situation

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/05/real-studios-dvd-cca-illegal-cartel-squeeze-out-fair-use.ars

As it seems RealNetworks is suing the MPAA for bad pratices like excluding others from the market.

It is ridiculous and any sane person can see anti-trust laws being ignore by those scumbags from the MAFIAA.

Real thiefs are people who:

- Out of greed extend copyright and patents making it perpetual and robing society of what is their(culture and science).
- Monopolize and try to own all aspects of something excluding others from being able to profit from it those hurting the major employer in the whole world small business.
- People patenting genes and sallying “exclusive” kits for thousands off times the price to make that product.

Those are really the thiefs here not Mary with 3 kids struggling to pay the rent.

The Pirate Bay it’s just a symbol anything bad they do will be overlooked but what people see it’s the important part “Pirate Bay = Freedom to share and expand your horizons”.

And if people were more organized they would start suing the MAFIAA for futile things just to strain them financially could you imagine 6 billion people donating 50 cents how much legal pain they can bring it on? It’s not going to happen of course because people don’t have the civil infra structure in place to do it and coordinate but everyone can just ignore ridiculous laws and share(pirate) stuff and this will hurt more and more as more people just realize they don’t have to pay for artificial privileges and what governments can do? Nothing you can’t imprison the whole population so the laws will have to change.

It’s like the pirate bay. Ever since it’s conviction (I guess pirates don’t like being reminded that piracy is illegal?) people were quick to respond with “zomg soz u thinkt thaht torrezntz r ileegal?” The pirate bay has stated that they “no torrents should be removed” and that’s what they do. The fact that they turn a blind eye to all the copyright infringement they facilitate is in effect proof that they support copright infringement. I don’t know why people insist on mystifying the pirate bay’s agenda because it is sure as hell isn’t that complicated. The pirate bay was founded by an anti copyright group (in other words, self centered pieces of crap), which just shows that they intend to disregard the law. They should be held accountable for their actions. This is the funny part. Just because it’s over the internet, people think that it’s okay, and no one should be accountable for anything.

People stealing things with torrents is not some new trend that the market has to adapt to (if I had nickle for every time I heard this bs excuse.) It’s just crime that should be dealt with. Nothing more.

BREIN=SMART

BRIEN=SMART

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That is where all this farce about “protecting the rights of the artists” ends.

All this parasitic organizations (BREIN, RIAA, IFPI, SGAE, etc.) don’t care at all about artists that they represent… In the actual record music industry an artist get pennies from their hard work. Around 10% of the total profits is given to the artist, and the remaining 90% is stolen by the middlemen, in this case the record music industry. This is real piracy, and not filesharing.

That I never will understand is as the law courts don’t see this big theft from the music industry as piracy and crime. This leads to another conclusion: the actual judicial systems and governments are inneficient, corrupt and obsolete in nature and already don’t represent to the people anymore.

All this subject about “copyright infringement” is the biggest farce on the earth, and this the only thing that protects are the pockets of the irrelevant middlemen from the outdated entertainment industry.

“Short and well, FTD limits itself to provide a platform to post a message that says that the movie Slumdog Millionaire is to found in the newsgroup alt.binaires.boneless.

IF THAT IS ILLEGAL, SO IS THIS SUBPENA”

Haha, great way to make your point. Will be good to see what happens here.

cheers,

-the Queef-

They are essentially performing their own suicide. Very little of what I listen to or watch is connected to major labels or studios anymore. It’s canned stuff, same-old-same-old stuff.

That’s what they are really battling. People would find other ways to find stuff that interests them. That would also be very unfortunate because it’s also an economy killer for a lot of things.

The problem with the argument about paying people who produce the content is that these TRADE organizations that hold the copyrights aren’t content creators. The people who actually create the stuff get the lowest $ possible.

But what you should know is that FTD used to have (a few months ago) direct links to usenet search sites (like binsearch.org) but after some BREIN complains they adjusted their client, removed all direct links to search providers, and removed other things that BREIN could complain about…

All that seems to be released now are over-sensitive warbling “artists” doing covers or compilation albums containing songs that have been released hundreds of times before.

Oh how I WISH such laws existed in the U.S. So the Netherlands has better copyright laws AND better beer than the U.S.A. (love Heineken but Bud sucks)