UseNeXT Threatens Litigation Against Blogger
Written by enigmax on October 13, 2009Earlier this month an article appeared on a German site, purporting to detail the manner in which hugely popular Usenet company UseNeXT conducts its business. The article, titled “UseNeXT: Legitimate downloading of pirated movies” caught the eye of UseNeXT, which immediately sent threats of legal action to the author.
UseNeXT bills itself as offering “next generation downloading” and is one of the most popular Usenet services around today, advertising extensively within the BitTorrent community and on many torrent sites.
Earlier this month, blogger Aldor Nini (who also works for anti-piracy solutions company Easycom) wrote an independent article that was published on BuildBlog.de.
The post titled “UseNeXT: Legitimate downloading of pirated movies” gave a highly detailed account of UseNeXT’s operations, along with information on how the service operates in respect of pirated movie content. For anyone interested in the company or Usenet in general (and can take the anti-piracy objective and language with a pinch of salt), it is a must-read – but not without controversy.
As many people who have written potentially negative pieces or forum posts about UseNeXT will confirm, the company is very quick to notice such items, and in this case the reaction was no different.
Within two days the author and publisher of the post received “pre-litigation” letters from UseNeXT’s lawyers, ordering it to censor certain claims made in the article. UseNeXT says that they received information that the article had been sent to an employee at Warner Bros and are insisting that claims made within are erroneous and will negatively affect UseNeXT’s public image.
Article author Aldor Nini gave TorrentFreak a list of claims made in the article which he says are being disputed by UseNeXT’s lawyers;
The article claims that:
Undeterred, Nini says that he stands by his claims. “The comments are correct and true,” he told TorrentFreak, “and we’re looking forward to proving that!”
Nini also points out a section about free-speech on UseNeXT’s website, translated from German below;
“Everyone has the right to gain knowledge as well as to make public and disseminate, in written and spoken, his word by using the UseNeXT service. Nobody should be afraid to be discriminated due to his religious or political position by using the Usenet.”
Nini says that he believes that this is a great statement that should apply to everyone. Therefore his article will stand uncensored on both Usenet and the web.
TorrentFreak will monitor the situation closely and report on further developments and (possible) threats against ourselves.
Previously: AFACT v iiNet: Day 6 – IP Address Alone Is Not Enough
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83 Responses
I never knew it was that good. Thought it was just a scam. 1st post.
Its good to see someone else rather than trackers gets attention from copyright companies, so now they will have to fight DC++ hubs, torrent trackers and usenet … great news :D
LoL, just on the front page alone allot of the claims are pretty much validated….
But it does look like an interesting place…
Meh, BitTorrent is still better (:
I dont think usenet offer encryption or actively filter the servers for malicious files, that may infect an end(paying) Users PC
iiNet for the Win, Australia is behind you <3 <3
http://p2pnet.net
this article worthy of usenetfreak and not torrentfreak. The only relation torrents and UseNeXT have is that UseNeXT advertises on many sites including torrent sites.
What next we have article about “Adult Friend Finder” on torrentfreak because they also advertise widely on torrent sites?
Very nice one, great! the ultimate reason to keep on pushing the torrent network and not mix up with the shady UseNeXT stuff……….
If you don’t think an article is going to be relevant, then don’t read it… No one’s forcing you…
@7
I agree.
So UseNeXT is the real terror-byte city! let’s go get this bastards before that transformer download reaches 100%..!
Where can I get a free unrestricted trial membership?…. I’ll go test it out and let everyone know if its better than BT…LoL
@vyvyan:
i recommend you to read the “about” section:
“We try to be the source of all the latest breaking news in the p2p world.”
just because you can find the word “torrent” in the domain name (how smart you are!) it doesn’t mean this is a torrent-only site.
@11: agree with you, Usenet is part of file sharing and very popular
great news that torrentfreak now work togehther with the copyright industry :) lets take down all this sites … lol
usenet is better than torrents. usenext however is not. usenext is horrible. astraweb+grabit trump every other sharing protocol. =D!
@9:lol
That’s so funny – they do all this advertisement for unlimited, free, uncensored access to all this files and then such a stupid suing stuff.
Great work, Torrentfreak, for bringing light into this!
Makes you laugh
@14
If you have to pay for it then it really isnt any better at all…
Kinda takes something away from the whole “sharing” thing if you’re paying to do it, dont you think?
@19
Well, it is sort of “premium”
UseNeXT suck, Astraweb are great ;)
and about 15$/month for unlimited and encrypted 100mbit/s access to stuff is sort of nice.
@viktor (11)
I suggest you yourself read the “about” section, this time from top to bottom (in the conventional way). It starts with “TorrentFreak is a weblog dedicated to bringing the latest news about BitTorrent and everything that is closely related to this popular filesharing protocol….”
and to other troll’s who keep telling, if you don’t like it don’t read it. should read their own words again. Why are you telling me if you don’t like my criticism? Or you live your lives by rules different you tell the rest of the world.
Usenet and News sites are unsafe, just like Limewire, ed2k, etc.
BitTorrent is encrypted and are moderated to avoid viruses and Malware.
..and you pay to access it!
@vyvyan, You’re silly. TF’s had other non torrent specific articles in the past, still related to file sharing. Sorry you’re having a bad day. Chill out and don’t read certain articles if they don’t cater to your specific sensitivities. I’m actually appreciative of this info. If you don’t think it belongs here, why not start your own usenetfreak site? Then you can censor and ban all torrent references if you choose. LOL
We wrote an article on usenext a looong while ago:
http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/05/04/usenext-usenext-and-more-f__king-usenext/
Which seams to be the rip off
More news about other file sharing services please!
And on the right-hand side over at Google Ads, there’s a UseNeXT ad…^^
irc is next
@ eZee- Thx for the link, good read…
While reading it though I remembered years (and years) ago when I was an AOL subscriber, I think your article on usenext reminded me allot of them (did I say that? im sorry AOL..NOT…They probably arent as brutal, but practice is all it requires)
I have always had my suspicions but really never cared to investigate…BT is fine..
Why pay and going to usenext when Bit Torrent do the job.
I went to UseNext website and they have to much wow and Wow and WOW and WOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW of publicity. Bit torrent is not like that, they dont need to have to much publicity to be nice.
well, **** usenext
Well, I for one, since my excursion to piracy, say that it’s a good thing to react to false claims. If I hadn’t changed my opinion, I would have stated pro-industry crap!
Usenext are encrypted for those who are saying they are not..
“It is possible to download illegal content from the UseNeXT service.”
True
“The UseNeXT software somehow has the functionality to automatically unpack passworded archives containing infringing content. The same content is not available for other non-UseNeXT Usenet users without knowing the password.”
False – Usenext can automatically download nzb, repair and extract the files though.
“Spam and fakes are sorted by the community and/or UseNeXT software.”
False – there are still fakes / spam etc.
“UseNeXT has a ratings system which lists the “best” content most prominently, i.e a full-length high quality pirate movie trumps lesser quality ones, and they all trump a legitimate movie trailer.”
True – but its only a 5 star system – with comments system as well.
“Whereas Usenet is an open network, “UseNeXT is a closed environment” and while it is possible to take down infringing content, there is no standard way to take down the same from UseNeXT due to the fact that 3rd parties have no access to the UseNeXT database.”
Usenext compile data from several of the larger news servers. If you take the content from them, in theory it will no longer appear in Usenext.
“UseNeXT’s system takes measures to access content that has previously been taken down by so-called Usenet “cancel” commands by pulling it from other non-compliant Usenet providers.”
Doubtful – the usenet system in general works by content propagating between servers making it very difficult to take anything down on any server!
“UseNeXT’s software indexes available Usenet content and allows its users to upload content to the global Usenet system anonymously and free of charge, and allows other UseNeXT users to download it by paying a fee per gigabyte.”
The search / index facility is one of the best reasons for using Usenext over other usenet providers.
“More than 90% of German content is uploaded by UseNeXT users, with more than 24% of international Usenet content being uploaded by UseNeXT users.”
There is a helluva lot of German material on there!
“Two unnamed men created UseNeXT and other products with a goal to “generate money – fast, secure and mostly in a legitimate way. It shouldn’t be as complicated as Facebook, YouTube, or MySpace is – no, it should have a development period of 3 months and an ROI of a maximum of 6 months.””
First I heard of this.
“That network usage peaks forced UseNeXT to bring a third vendor into the business – US Usenet provider Giganews.”
Possibly – but usenext hold the world record for the fastest download speed achieved!
Agreed, Astraweb is where it’s act.
@4
“I dont think usenet offer encryption or actively filter the servers for malicious files, that may infect an end(paying) Users PC”
Usenet offers far better encryption than bit torrent!
Not to mention you only ever download from one party (so hopefully no one is keeping tabs on you)
I don’t agree with downloading copyright/illegal material – but if I was going to do it… Usenet would be the way.
Besides, for that small fee you also get access to all the newsgroups you could every want!
Plus, it’s FAST. I mean really fast.
If i wanted to download, say, a DVD ISO of Ubuntu, i could download it at 6300kB/s – that’s 6.3MB/s
That means it would be quicker for me to download the ISO off Usenet than it would to copy it from one computer to another over a 54g wireless network!! (approx 6MB/s)
And since when has bittorrent filtered out malicious files anyway? :P
thanks for those info!
http://www.craigspr.org
Never liked usenet very much I tried but got tired of all those missing parts and fakes.
Before anyone berates I will just add that if you like it use it, I’m more of a torrent guy. Don’t like rapidshare, megaupload either because I don’t want to keep waiting 15 min or keep changing my IP, and private trackers I would never put up with all that happens there.
In the end it doesn’t matter. Just waiting for the next generation P2P app that will bring anonymity to us all.
As a few others have commented, I also didn’t realise they were a legitimate site, all of their advertising really does make them sound like a scam.
…still the idea of paying to access pirate materials seems fundamentally wrong.
@32: Sure it decrypts passworded RARs, that’s one of the great features of UseNeXT, no need to search for the passes in boards anymore, but it takes a while until they search engine will have the passes.
Fakes: I’ve been unlucky some times, but if you download the fake, just mark it as fake and your followers will be lucky!
No clue about completion, but I found out that some Harry Potter movies were gone from Usenet, but still available on Usenext.
Can yo guys teach me how to monitor something closely?
@22 Your an idiot. Ineptitude is the only way for one to catch a virus. I hate when people say Limewire is full of viruses. If you used your common sense and the builtin review system it wouldnt be an issue. Its the same for bittorent, although their review system is better. Usenet is good, its been around longer than ur azz has been born. If it was so bad it’d be gone by now.
Also, to all the cheap bastards that dont want to pay for anything…for shame on you. You people disgust me more than non-seeding leechers. Are you telling me you are that much of penurious azzhole that you wont pay for anything. Losers probrably dont donate to sites either? Anyway, like someone said earlier you pay to have somewhat of a premium. With Usenet or DDLs you dont have to worry about how many Seeders. “SEED PLZZ!11!” is basically irrelevant and 10x of your files are there faster.
God, some of the ppl in this community disgust me.
“UseNeXT’s system takes measures to access content that has previously been taken down by so-called Usenet “cancel” commands by pulling it from other non-compliant Usenet providers.”
Most servers do simply not honor cancel messages because there’s no way to make sure that the cancel message indeed comes from the one who is supposed to have sent it. I doubt UseNeXT honors cancel messages. I wonder if some servers honor these messages actually. The contrary would be hard to manage to say the least.
“Whereas Usenet is an open network, “UseNeXT is a closed environment” and while it is possible to take down infringing content, there is no standard way to take down the same from UseNeXT due to the fact that 3rd parties have no access to the UseNeXT database.”
Utter BS. There’s no way to filter content based on hash values. The uploader would simply post the stuff again, with different message-ids. Taking the content down doesn’t make any sense, USENET is basically a peer-to-peer system. The oldest one, actually.
“The UseNeXT software somehow has the functionality to automatically unpack passworded archives containing infringing content. The same content is not available for other non-UseNeXT Usenet users without knowing the password.”
Wtf? They cast a level 20 spell to brute force the passwords or the encryption in a matter of seconds? “Somehow”, yeah, sure.
“# It is possible to download illegal content from the UseNeXT service.”
Wow. Don’t tell anyone but it’s also possible to download “illegal” content with Firefox.
“UseNeXT has a ratings system which lists the “best” content most prominently”
What the world is coming to if Mediadefender can’t spam everyone?
@40: No, their own search engine gets feeded with the password for a download and then just uses the right one to extract it ;)
@4 newsgroups are far better than torrents apart from the fact you need to pay a small fee every month. with my provider i get full download speeds without the needing to use any upload bandwidth zero fakes which are found all over public torrent sites its encrypted most of the time any broken files are easily repaired with pars which come with the file you download unlike torrents. I also use one of the best private torrent sites around and quite a lot of the time its much easier to download a 25-100gb movie pack from a newsgroup than it is a torrent
THE WORLDS COMING TO AN END AND I DONT EVEN CARE, JUST AS LONG AS I CAN HAVE MY LIMO AND MY ORANGE HAIR!
@23 – Your an idiot. Most providers offer 256 SSL (more than any torrent can provide) and most don’t keep logs. How much safer can it get you @$$hat?
What is UseNeXT and why should I care?
Wait… now I remember. It’s something related to Usenet, another completely outdated thing from the previous millennium, right?
/yawn
Don’t talk about usenet.. please!
It’s the one thing the MAFIAA have not yet attacked…
“* It is possible to download illegal content from the UseNeXT service.”
As it is with all Usenet providers, or with a web browser…
“* The UseNeXT software somehow has the functionality to automatically unpack passworded archives containing infringing content. The same content is not available for other non-UseNeXT Usenet users without knowing the password.”
It might search for the password, but I doubt it can just automatically crack any encrypted archive.
“* Spam and fakes are sorted by the community and/or UseNeXT software.”
Most Usenet providers have spam filters and remove fake/dangerous filters upon a user’s complaint (assuming the coplaint is valid).
“* Whereas Usenet is an open network, “UseNeXT is a closed environment” and while it is possible to take down infringing content, there is no standard way to take down the same from UseNeXT due to the fact that 3rd parties have no access to the UseNeXT database.”
3rd parties have no direct access to any news providers’ databases. They can buy a subscription and access it that way, which they can also do with UseNeXT. It is not possible for 3rd parties themselves to take down content on ANY Usenet provider. They can send a takedown request, but it depends on the provider’s location whether they have to honor it or not.
“* UseNeXT’s system takes measures to access content that has previously been taken down by so-called Usenet “cancel” commands by pulling it from other non-compliant Usenet providers.”
The “cancel” system, which was meant to provide an easy method for allowing a sender or system administrator to automatically cancel messages globally, was widely abused. As such, no modern Usenet provider obeys cancel messages. To get content taken down, the copyright holder has to file a takedown notice with each provider. As above, not all providers will act on such a request and those that still have the content online will pass it along the same as everything else that gets posted.
“* UseNeXT’s software indexes available Usenet content and allows its users to upload content to the global Usenet system anonymously and free of charge, and allows other UseNeXT users to download it by paying a fee per gigabyte.”
All Usenet providers “index” content, it’s part of how the system works. All Usenet providers allow users to upload content to the global system free of charge. Some say they allow anonymous uploading, but they have to have some records for dealing with abuse. All Usenet providers all their users to download anything that’s been posted by paying a fee. The better services, like Astraweb offer unlimited accounts rather than charging by the gigabyte, or giving you a set download limit.
Re: #4, Comeoncomcast;
“Meh, BitTorrent is still better (:”
BitTorrent
———-
Pros: Fairly easy to find recent stuff, decent to good speeds on recent stuff.
Cons: Files older than a few months rarely have more than a handful of seeders, files older than a couple years rarely have ANY seeders, the speed on older files sucks, there’s no central index of torrents, using it to download broadcasts your IP address to the swarm as having that content, half the torrents you download are from private trackers that you can’t download from unless you join and you can’t join them because registrations are closed.
Usenet
——
Pros: Search sites exist to help you quickly locate the posts you want, always good speeds (unless there’s something wrong), with few exceptions there’s no getting stuck at 98%, can ask for reposts directly or make requests and they will be seen globally, most posters include Par2 files to fix broken posts, combines elements of file sharing and a forum into one package, 3rd parties can’t track what you download and most providers don’t keep logs, you don’t upload unless you specifically want to.
Cons: Usually not free (although some ISPs do include it as part of your account), posts get cycled off after a set period of time (although many providers now have up to a year of retention), people occasionally post fakes (although they can usually be avoided fairly easily), occasionally enough missing parts to render a post unusuable (fairly rare), takes a little more work than using BitTorrent.
Re: #6, Anonymous;
“Never liked usenet very much I tried but got tired of all those missing parts and fakes.”
Most posters include Par2 files that can take care of a certain percentage of missing parts. On a reliable provider, in the major groups, missing parts should be rare and when they do occur, there should be more than enough Par2 files to fix them. As for fakes, I agree that they’re a problem, but there are things you can look for to tip you off and help you avoid fakes, like the poster’s name, the way the subject line is arranged, etc.
“Don’t like rapidshare, megaupload either because I don’t want to keep waiting 15 min or keep changing my IP, and private trackers I would never put up with all that happens there.”
I mostly agree with this, however you should take a second look at MegaUpload. Their limits seem to be fluctuating a lot lately. I can normally download at least 3-4 movies in a row with no waiting time. Sometimes there’s a 45 sceond wait to download, but if you register for a free account, it goes down to 25 seconds and sometimes there’s no wait time at all. This past weekend, I downloaded about 35GB from them. True, it wasn’t all at once, but I downloaded at least 6-7GB in each session. Maybe they relax the restrictions on the weekends and at night…
“Earlier this month, blogger Aldor Nini (who also works for anti-piracy solutions company Easycom) wrote an independent article that was published on BuildBlog.de.”
Independent…yeah right…
Stupidity Never Fails
read :
http://www.usenetshack.com/usenext-scam-review-usenet-provider/
and the reply from usenext : http://www.usenetshack.com/usenext-reply-user-review-services/
USENEXT ROCK’S THEY ARE THE BEST FOR ALL WHO DON’T HAVE AN ACCOUNT SHOULD GET ONE. YES YOU HAVE TO PAY BUT IT’S WELL WORTH IT. AND CLEAN NO VIRUS’S LOVE USENEXT YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!!!!!!
http://www.freeusenext.com if you want a free account!
UseNeXT got stuck in the corner all by them selfs.
Especially from pointing out how free speech will contribute to everyone, from their own motto.
>>great news that torrentfreak now work togehther with the copyright industry :) lets take down all this sites … lol
Nothing new. TF office is next door to Brein office.
Let face it: these guys (usenext) are profiting on the backs of content creators. Like MAFIAA. I will not be surprised, if it gets revealed, that they are actually owned by MAFIAA.
nope
Aldor Nini = independent?! no way…
Did you know that Aldor Nini was an employee of those 2 founders of UseNeXT? In fact he was a product manager of one of their other projects named sternshortnews from 2001 to 2003.
1 year after the UseNeXT launch Aldor Nini started Easyload, a copycat of his former employers. Easyload got a really bad reputation on the market, failed to be successfull and went offline in 2007.
End of 2007 Aldor Nini started another UseNeXT copycat named Overnext.com – again he got bad reputation and failed to be successfull.
Then he got the idea to license his index technology to other usenet resellers. He also contacted UseNeXT, but neither UseNeXT, nor any other usenet reseller had any interest to make business with Aldor Nini.
Now he tries to earn money with anti-piracy solutions on the one hand, but on the other hand still offers tons of illegal material with Overnext – WTF?!
It’s no surprising that the copyright owners don’t trust him (besides that fact that his companies are all based in Albania)!
So Aldor Nini is just kind of frustated and tries to get some attention by offending both the copyright owners and UseNeXT – that’s all about Mr. Nini.
most facts can also be found on the first result of this query:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=xing+aldor+nini+profile+gesch%C3%A4ftsf%C3%BChrung&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=59681ffd38a8e39f
I was not able to post the original link here.
@58: I checked out Aldor Ninis profile, but you must be a Troll or a employee of UseNeXT. Cause Aldor Nini wasn’t working for UseNeXT when the service was funded.
Why should he offer UseNeXT an indexing service when thev’ve been already operatine one?
Btw. I’m from Netherland, but a GmbH sounds like a Germany company.
Do they pay you with money or do you just get some Gigabytes to download to write this stupid stuff?
@51
“YES YOU HAVE TO PAY”
For a dumb client software of a useless Usenet? Thanks, but no thanks. ;-) And please go advertise somewhere else.
Now it’s amazing how many retards and PR agents are over the Internets. And how often those two types coincide…
@60: of course he was not working for UseNeXT, since UseNeXT was started in 2004 – from 2001 to 2003 Aldor Nini worked for the founders of UseNeXT who had several other projects before. One of those was sternshortnews, where Aldor Nini worked as product manager (see his profle on xing).
Aldor Nini offered his indexing service to UseNeXT and other usenet resellers, because he really believed that his software is way better – another fail. Just read the slogan of Overnext.com “because we are the best” – that’s his philsophy.
Aldor Nini is from Germany and already founded several other German companies (see profile), but nowadays hides himself behind those Albanian companies.
@62:
…”of course he was not working for UseNeXT…”
Well, where is the problem?
The stuff about offering indexing services and other stuff sounds to me a little bit off-topic, sorry, but it is indeed off-topic.
I do not care who did offer something to someone else, I just care about that what will be important for the wide audience, and that is UseNeXT behavior in relation to freedom of speech.
I won’t forget what UseNeXT has done, even if BuildBlog.de would be a site of the MAFIAA.
@58
I don´t think that your kind of information is relevant here.
@63 & @64: of course it is relevant to know what the background of someone is, who claims to tell you the truth.
And if he obviously is posting lies in the public, it’s absolutely correct to sue him for libel and slander. That has nothing to do with censorship.
How about freedom of speech on BuildBlog.de? All new comments have to be approved by its Admin before being displayed. And I don’t think my comment will ever be approved on this blog…
@Insider: You suck. Sorry, I didn’t told this to alot of people in my life, but you really suck.
Sure it’s ok to sue someone if he’s lying. The law-firm I work for (I’m not a lawyer) does this every day.
So, you’re an insider, but you never explained to us which statement should be a lie, so you’re not an insider, but just a troll.
UseNeXT does also suck, and every company trying to tell us that they’re the good pirates and do this just for cash suck too. UseNeXT does this for money, and they say they don’t offer illegal stuff, so they suck.
PirateBay (although not always honest) has more balls then this pseudo-pirate companies, and more then you.
Go away and screw up yourself. We don’t want advertisement for pseudo-pirates.
Sorry, @insider, some more education for you, which you might have missed in life:
It is relevant to know the background if someone is lying, if someone is telling the truth and you start flushing “background information” it’s looking like you’re trying to move away from the real topic – the MPAA does the same by saying Filesharers are terrorists.
You should go and work for the MAFIAA. I’ll write you a recommendation.
@65: Probably because you could write untrue stuff and usenext could sue the blog site… but you can open your own blog site, put in your name, comment everyhing you want to and wait to see what happens
Prove your Information, an I will publish it.
You are also free to write Your own opinion about the usenext or other stuff in my blog. But in Germany we have something like “personal privacy” (sorry i don´t really know how to translate it. in german it´s persönlichkeitsrecht). Therfore it´s a problem writing about people, mention their name and publish something that I can´t prove. If you like to tell others your opinion about the thing itself, but not about named persons contact me (webmaster[at]buildblogde]. you are also alowed to say aldors article is silly because… but please don´t tell me this article (which i think is telling the truth), is bad because someone has been working for somebody in the past.
@5
“What next we have article about “Adult Friend Finder” on torrentfreak because they also advertise widely on torrent sites?”
I’d second that ;) Could be interesting ….
i tried usenext some time ago, for free, 2 weeks or so, was working good and really fast, but when exeeding my downloadlimit by a few MBs, i received a bill over 15 euro from them (never paid, because i had certainly used a faked identity).
however, as long as other options are around, i will not use it…
TorrentFreak should do an investigative report on UseNeXT.
There have been numerous complaints by ex-customers of UseNeXT’s fraudulent and aggressive billing practices that appear to far outpace complaints against other usenet providers.
For instance, why does UseNeXT hire collection agents to go after ex-customers who years before quit the service (but UseNeXT claims they did not quit properly) and never logged in again? Why does UseNeXT hound these people, claiming years of back-rent owed on a service they never used? No other usenet provider ever does this.
To many former UseNeXT users who suffered this abuse, it’s nothing short of extortion. And a scam.
“What is UseNeXT and why should I care? Wait… now I remember. It’s something related to Usenet, another completely outdated thing from the previous millennium, right?”
WOW! What a COMPLETELY-UNINFORMED tard-statement..!
Personally, I’d MUCH rather have my downloads at the MAXIMUM speed my pipe can handle than the shitty rate that someone wants to upload to me (a la BitTorrent).
But remember:
The First Rule Of Usenet is: ‘YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT USENET!’
hth
hand
kthxbai
PS UseneXt is a rip-off of Usenet.
I just use my ISPs newsgroup server…
Better than torrents and it don’t cost anything. Then again the retention is only 7 days but it’s enough.
10mbit download speeds can get blurays in a matter of hours. With torrent that is impossible.
Anyone who don;t know what usenet is go read up on it. The ISPs one is not even connected to the internet, it’s on their own network so it’s pretty secure ^^. Unless my ISP starts chasing thier own customers but where’s the profit in that?
Well done L
Usenext will never see a dime from me. They ARE making tons of money from piracy and just because of the MAFIAA figthing community driven p2p.
I’m really against people making money from piracy, but then again, if there would be enough money to be made those companies might actually be able to buy their own judges, politician and police, just like the MAFIAA does now.
@73
You are the only uninformed tard here, pal. I have all my D/L at maximum speed via BitTorrent because I know right trackers. :-) And free of charge of course.
Ahh, well. I suppose there’s no use to argue. It’s just another proof that Usenet dinosaurs have no clue whatsoever.
prodigydancer
it’s so amusing to see what a big n00b you are
no wonder most people from usenet hate bittorrent , it’s full of tards like you
PS UseneXt gives a bad rep to usenet , it’s sucks
astraweb and altbinz for me
That guy has done more for promotion of Usenext with that one article than they have done with a dozen of ads.
I wonder if he is aware of this.
As an aside: Nobody gives a toss about an artist or author’s respect. At the very least not after they would rather see their FANS IN JAIL FOR WANTING THE ART OF THE ARTIST than have as much exposure as possible.
And sorry, it’s not exactly a valid argument to state that piracy prohibits legit alternatives.
The idiotic bit is that he is effectively saying that because the piracy oriented community provides a better service, whereas the legal alternatives suck, it’d be nice if we just stopped using the more functional ones.
Sorry, but if you can’t manage to create a loving community that comes even close to that of sites that are illegal, then MAYBE you should rethink your PR, your business plan and your pricing model, not tell users to just “be good” and use crappier interfaces, crappier sites devoid of community, rating, promotion, cross-referencing etc pp.
The hard facts are that various private trackers have a gazillionfold better content organization with a FREE FROM PAYMENT background, than a professional, legal alternative has.
What I am saying is: it’s not just the pricing, it’s the plain fact that everything all around just sucks about “legal alternatives”.
Once that starts to sink in and something is done about that, THEN you can start addressing the fact that the quid-pro-quo era of paying per album and use is OVER, and that this is the new age of flatrate, on-demand omni-use of digital goods.
FFS, it’s not malicious intent but evolution, get with the friggin’ program already.
I see nothing wrong with the article. The statements are accurate… not sure how they can deny them.
It’s almost as pathetic as thepiratebay saying that the primary use of their servers/trackers isn’t for copyright infringement.
On another note:
Laws need to change so file sharing isn’t considered so insanely criminal.
File sharing should not equal copyright infringement.
use a scene release indexing site + megaupload. best combo
Turned to Usenet (Astraweb) from Torrents, I’ll never go back.
There are sites where you can find legit content, you don’t even have to look for it.
8€/month I get my bandwith maxed out 24/7, no logs from provider, free SSL Encryption. Never found an incomplete post.
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