There are sites where you can find legit content, you don’t even have to look for it.

8€/month I get my bandwith maxed out 24/7, no logs from provider, free SSL Encryption. Never found an incomplete post.

It’s almost as pathetic as thepiratebay saying that the primary use of their servers/trackers isn’t for copyright infringement.

On another note:
Laws need to change so file sharing isn’t considered so insanely criminal.

File sharing should not equal copyright infringement.

As an aside: Nobody gives a toss about an artist or author’s respect. At the very least not after they would rather see their FANS IN JAIL FOR WANTING THE ART OF THE ARTIST than have as much exposure as possible.
And sorry, it’s not exactly a valid argument to state that piracy prohibits legit alternatives.
The idiotic bit is that he is effectively saying that because the piracy oriented community provides a better service, whereas the legal alternatives suck, it’d be nice if we just stopped using the more functional ones.

Sorry, but if you can’t manage to create a loving community that comes even close to that of sites that are illegal, then MAYBE you should rethink your PR, your business plan and your pricing model, not tell users to just “be good” and use crappier interfaces, crappier sites devoid of community, rating, promotion, cross-referencing etc pp.

The hard facts are that various private trackers have a gazillionfold better content organization with a FREE FROM PAYMENT background, than a professional, legal alternative has.
What I am saying is: it’s not just the pricing, it’s the plain fact that everything all around just sucks about “legal alternatives”.

Once that starts to sink in and something is done about that, THEN you can start addressing the fact that the quid-pro-quo era of paying per album and use is OVER, and that this is the new age of flatrate, on-demand omni-use of digital goods.

FFS, it’s not malicious intent but evolution, get with the friggin’ program already.

astraweb and altbinz for me

it’s so amusing to see what a big n00b you are

You are the only uninformed tard here, pal. I have all my D/L at maximum speed via BitTorrent because I know right trackers. :-) And free of charge of course.

Ahh, well. I suppose there’s no use to argue. It’s just another proof that Usenet dinosaurs have no clue whatsoever.

I’m really against people making money from piracy, but then again, if there would be enough money to be made those companies might actually be able to buy their own judges, politician and police, just like the MAFIAA does now.

Better than torrents and it don’t cost anything. Then again the retention is only 7 days but it’s enough.

10mbit download speeds can get blurays in a matter of hours. With torrent that is impossible.

Anyone who don;t know what usenet is go read up on it. The ISPs one is not even connected to the internet, it’s on their own network so it’s pretty secure ^^. Unless my ISP starts chasing thier own customers but where’s the profit in that?

WOW! What a COMPLETELY-UNINFORMED tard-statement..!

Personally, I’d MUCH rather have my downloads at the MAXIMUM speed my pipe can handle than the shitty rate that someone wants to upload to me (a la BitTorrent).

But remember:

The First Rule Of Usenet is: ‘YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT USENET!’

hth
hand
kthxbai

PS UseneXt is a rip-off of Usenet.

There have been numerous complaints by ex-customers of UseNeXT’s fraudulent and aggressive billing practices that appear to far outpace complaints against other usenet providers.

For instance, why does UseNeXT hire collection agents to go after ex-customers who years before quit the service (but UseNeXT claims they did not quit properly) and never logged in again? Why does UseNeXT hound these people, claiming years of back-rent owed on a service they never used? No other usenet provider ever does this.

To many former UseNeXT users who suffered this abuse, it’s nothing short of extortion. And a scam.

however, as long as other options are around, i will not use it…

I’d second that ;) Could be interesting ….

You are also free to write Your own opinion about the usenext or other stuff in my blog. But in Germany we have something like “personal privacy” (sorry i don´t really know how to translate it. in german it´s persönlichkeitsrecht). Therfore it´s a problem writing about people, mention their name and publish something that I can´t prove. If you like to tell others your opinion about the thing itself, but not about named persons contact me (webmaster[at]buildblogde]. you are also alowed to say aldors article is silly because… but please don´t tell me this article (which i think is telling the truth), is bad because someone has been working for somebody in the past.

It is relevant to know the background if someone is lying, if someone is telling the truth and you start flushing “background information” it’s looking like you’re trying to move away from the real topic – the MPAA does the same by saying Filesharers are terrorists.

You should go and work for the MAFIAA. I’ll write you a recommendation.

Sure it’s ok to sue someone if he’s lying. The law-firm I work for (I’m not a lawyer) does this every day.

So, you’re an insider, but you never explained to us which statement should be a lie, so you’re not an insider, but just a troll.

UseNeXT does also suck, and every company trying to tell us that they’re the good pirates and do this just for cash suck too. UseNeXT does this for money, and they say they don’t offer illegal stuff, so they suck.

PirateBay (although not always honest) has more balls then this pseudo-pirate companies, and more then you.

Go away and screw up yourself. We don’t want advertisement for pseudo-pirates.

And if he obviously is posting lies in the public, it’s absolutely correct to sue him for libel and slander. That has nothing to do with censorship.

How about freedom of speech on BuildBlog.de? All new comments have to be approved by its Admin before being displayed. And I don’t think my comment will ever be approved on this blog…

…”of course he was not working for UseNeXT…”

Well, where is the problem?

The stuff about offering indexing services and other stuff sounds to me a little bit off-topic, sorry, but it is indeed off-topic.

I do not care who did offer something to someone else, I just care about that what will be important for the wide audience, and that is UseNeXT behavior in relation to freedom of speech.

I won’t forget what UseNeXT has done, even if BuildBlog.de would be a site of the MAFIAA.

“YES YOU HAVE TO PAY”

For a dumb client software of a useless Usenet? Thanks, but no thanks. ;-) And please go advertise somewhere else.

Now it’s amazing how many retards and PR agents are over the Internets. And how often those two types coincide…

Why should he offer UseNeXT an indexing service when thev’ve been already operatine one?

Btw. I’m from Netherland, but a GmbH sounds like a Germany company.

Do they pay you with money or do you just get some Gigabytes to download to write this stupid stuff?

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=xing+aldor+nini+profile+gesch%C3%A4ftsf%C3%BChrung&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=59681ffd38a8e39f

I was not able to post the original link here.

1 year after the UseNeXT launch Aldor Nini started Easyload, a copycat of his former employers. Easyload got a really bad reputation on the market, failed to be successfull and went offline in 2007.

End of 2007 Aldor Nini started another UseNeXT copycat named Overnext.com – again he got bad reputation and failed to be successfull.

Then he got the idea to license his index technology to other usenet resellers. He also contacted UseNeXT, but neither UseNeXT, nor any other usenet reseller had any interest to make business with Aldor Nini.

Now he tries to earn money with anti-piracy solutions on the one hand, but on the other hand still offers tons of illegal material with Overnext – WTF?!

It’s no surprising that the copyright owners don’t trust him (besides that fact that his companies are all based in Albania)!

So Aldor Nini is just kind of frustated and tries to get some attention by offending both the copyright owners and UseNeXT – that’s all about Mr. Nini.

Nothing new. TF office is next door to Brein office.

and the reply from usenext : http://www.usenetshack.com/usenext-reply-user-review-services/

Independent…yeah right…

Stupidity Never Fails

As it is with all Usenet providers, or with a web browser…

“* The UseNeXT software somehow has the functionality to automatically unpack passworded archives containing infringing content. The same content is not available for other non-UseNeXT Usenet users without knowing the password.”

It might search for the password, but I doubt it can just automatically crack any encrypted archive.

“* Spam and fakes are sorted by the community and/or UseNeXT software.”

Most Usenet providers have spam filters and remove fake/dangerous filters upon a user’s complaint (assuming the coplaint is valid).

“* Whereas Usenet is an open network, “UseNeXT is a closed environment” and while it is possible to take down infringing content, there is no standard way to take down the same from UseNeXT due to the fact that 3rd parties have no access to the UseNeXT database.”

3rd parties have no direct access to any news providers’ databases. They can buy a subscription and access it that way, which they can also do with UseNeXT. It is not possible for 3rd parties themselves to take down content on ANY Usenet provider. They can send a takedown request, but it depends on the provider’s location whether they have to honor it or not.

“* UseNeXT’s system takes measures to access content that has previously been taken down by so-called Usenet “cancel” commands by pulling it from other non-compliant Usenet providers.”

The “cancel” system, which was meant to provide an easy method for allowing a sender or system administrator to automatically cancel messages globally, was widely abused. As such, no modern Usenet provider obeys cancel messages. To get content taken down, the copyright holder has to file a takedown notice with each provider. As above, not all providers will act on such a request and those that still have the content online will pass it along the same as everything else that gets posted.

“* UseNeXT’s software indexes available Usenet content and allows its users to upload content to the global Usenet system anonymously and free of charge, and allows other UseNeXT users to download it by paying a fee per gigabyte.”

All Usenet providers “index” content, it’s part of how the system works. All Usenet providers allow users to upload content to the global system free of charge. Some say they allow anonymous uploading, but they have to have some records for dealing with abuse. All Usenet providers all their users to download anything that’s been posted by paying a fee. The better services, like Astraweb offer unlimited accounts rather than charging by the gigabyte, or giving you a set download limit.

Re: #4, Comeoncomcast;

“Meh, BitTorrent is still better (:”

BitTorrent
———-
Pros: Fairly easy to find recent stuff, decent to good speeds on recent stuff.

Cons: Files older than a few months rarely have more than a handful of seeders, files older than a couple years rarely have ANY seeders, the speed on older files sucks, there’s no central index of torrents, using it to download broadcasts your IP address to the swarm as having that content, half the torrents you download are from private trackers that you can’t download from unless you join and you can’t join them because registrations are closed.

Usenet
——
Pros: Search sites exist to help you quickly locate the posts you want, always good speeds (unless there’s something wrong), with few exceptions there’s no getting stuck at 98%, can ask for reposts directly or make requests and they will be seen globally, most posters include Par2 files to fix broken posts, combines elements of file sharing and a forum into one package, 3rd parties can’t track what you download and most providers don’t keep logs, you don’t upload unless you specifically want to.

Cons: Usually not free (although some ISPs do include it as part of your account), posts get cycled off after a set period of time (although many providers now have up to a year of retention), people occasionally post fakes (although they can usually be avoided fairly easily), occasionally enough missing parts to render a post unusuable (fairly rare), takes a little more work than using BitTorrent.

Re: #6, Anonymous;

“Never liked usenet very much I tried but got tired of all those missing parts and fakes.”

Most posters include Par2 files that can take care of a certain percentage of missing parts. On a reliable provider, in the major groups, missing parts should be rare and when they do occur, there should be more than enough Par2 files to fix them. As for fakes, I agree that they’re a problem, but there are things you can look for to tip you off and help you avoid fakes, like the poster’s name, the way the subject line is arranged, etc.

“Don’t like rapidshare, megaupload either because I don’t want to keep waiting 15 min or keep changing my IP, and private trackers I would never put up with all that happens there.”

I mostly agree with this, however you should take a second look at MegaUpload. Their limits seem to be fluctuating a lot lately. I can normally download at least 3-4 movies in a row with no waiting time. Sometimes there’s a 45 sceond wait to download, but if you register for a free account, it goes down to 25 seconds and sometimes there’s no wait time at all. This past weekend, I downloaded about 35GB from them. True, it wasn’t all at once, but I downloaded at least 6-7GB in each session. Maybe they relax the restrictions on the weekends and at night…

It’s the one thing the MAFIAA have not yet attacked…

Wait… now I remember. It’s something related to Usenet, another completely outdated thing from the previous millennium, right?

/yawn

“Whereas Usenet is an open network, “UseNeXT is a closed environment” and while it is possible to take down infringing content, there is no standard way to take down the same from UseNeXT due to the fact that 3rd parties have no access to the UseNeXT database.”
Utter BS. There’s no way to filter content based on hash values. The uploader would simply post the stuff again, with different message-ids. Taking the content down doesn’t make any sense, USENET is basically a peer-to-peer system. The oldest one, actually.

“The UseNeXT software somehow has the functionality to automatically unpack passworded archives containing infringing content. The same content is not available for other non-UseNeXT Usenet users without knowing the password.”
Wtf? They cast a level 20 spell to brute force the passwords or the encryption in a matter of seconds? “Somehow”, yeah, sure.

“# It is possible to download illegal content from the UseNeXT service.”
Wow. Don’t tell anyone but it’s also possible to download “illegal” content with Firefox.

“UseNeXT has a ratings system which lists the “best” content most prominently”
What the world is coming to if Mediadefender can’t spam everyone?

Also, to all the cheap bastards that dont want to pay for anything…for shame on you. You people disgust me more than non-seeding leechers. Are you telling me you are that much of penurious azzhole that you wont pay for anything. Losers probrably dont donate to sites either? Anyway, like someone said earlier you pay to have somewhat of a premium. With Usenet or DDLs you dont have to worry about how many Seeders. “SEED PLZZ!11!” is basically irrelevant and 10x of your files are there faster.

God, some of the ppl in this community disgust me.

Fakes: I’ve been unlucky some times, but if you download the fake, just mark it as fake and your followers will be lucky!

No clue about completion, but I found out that some Harry Potter movies were gone from Usenet, but still available on Usenext.

…still the idea of paying to access pirate materials seems fundamentally wrong.

Before anyone berates I will just add that if you like it use it, I’m more of a torrent guy. Don’t like rapidshare, megaupload either because I don’t want to keep waiting 15 min or keep changing my IP, and private trackers I would never put up with all that happens there.

In the end it doesn’t matter. Just waiting for the next generation P2P app that will bring anonymity to us all.