http://www.strongvpn.com
http://www.vpnaccounts.com
http://www.findnot.com

there are others, just google

I am now with outside vpn providers, and have not had this happened. It’s maybe too much work for them.

In other words, all they really need is to see your IP address associated with the torrent.

In other words, they don’t need to connect to your IP address directly, they only need to connect to the tracker, read your IP address from there, and add you to the list of “get affidavits about the following IP addresses.”

In other words, PG and its ilk are useless, *if* your goal in running them is to prevent being sued by the *IAA. None of these blockers prevent your IP addresses from being recorded on the tracker, and the companies don’t need to connect to you to sue you.

(In other words, what system and Cain have been saying.)

To those saying that PG is a waste of time because it’s amateur, blocks arbitrary domains, etc. So what? If it does not negatively effect the use of your computer it’s still better protection than no protection, even if it’s nowhere close to perfect.

And finally, to those saying that copyright owners have to download data from you in order to sue you, this is incorrect: in the US, for example, the RIAA has *never* had to prove that what you are sharing is actually the copyrighted material that their client owns. Courts all over the country have been satisfied with the RIAA simply showing that the defendant was a) using a P2P app, and b) making available a file with a name and filesize that makes it likely to be the copyrighted file in question. They’ve never had to prove that an actual transfer of copyrighted work occurred. In all but a very few of their 25,000+ cases, the “making available for sharing” argument has won the day and the defendant has been hit with a hefty judgment.

Next, total anonymity is the holy grail of piracy… a fantasy that is impossible to acheive without utter chaos and disorder and on top of that a global network that doesn’t function properly a mile away from where you are.

And finally… PeerGuardian 2 is just about the best protection you can get for free… sure it’s not foolproof, but it helps and with all the enemies P2P filesharing has made over the years, we need as much helps as we can get. If you don’t use PG2, don’t come out and spout shit about something you don’t know enough about, and if you use PG2 and think that you are totally protected, you are just as much of a n00b as that retarded video guy.

In short, use PG2, know you’re never going to be fully protected.

@ skyforce (38) : You are right PG blocks direct connection, but they already know my IP from the peer.

Maybe that they have an advantange from that. They not contribute the -maybe- illegal act but only watching it. But wait: without them in the swarm it would not be the same… Any idea?

@ system (32) : you say: “In short, the information they log is part of their “conversation” with you and can be legally recorded. Logging all data flowing in and out of someone elses machine would involve electronic eavesdropping, and would be illegal.”

So they do NOT know in real what is inside the package I am sharing.
The name of a torrent does not prove for its content.

– All torrents should be named away from the files it stands for, all files in the package should get different labels too.
– The real filenames should be shared with a second torrent. A clever software should assemble files and real file names on my computer.

According to EG its illegal for any company to put you in a database without your approval[/quote]

they do it anyway.

According to EG its illegal for any company to put you in a database without your approval

Awesome. Let me know when the IPv4/TCP stack starts to accept your IDz yo!

Arrest Motive: Sell piracy DVD

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talk is cheap ..
actions speak louder then words.

So we should be all caught by now then ?

but we ain’t

would’nt they have to find out what we we are d/l ?
meaning they would have to capture packets ?

Not using a blocklist is like screwing a hooker without a condom. I would rather take my chances with a condom than without.

Yeah ?
And how’d you feel about using a condom a bunch of kids constructed based on guesswork, a complete lack of knowledge of what they were trying to prevent and completely absent of any quality control methods ?

So you say PG is useless? … ok so what do you do to stay protected and not get caught. Nothing? well then maybe you are a Corporate ASSHAT.

Would you care to explain that moronic formula Sinista ?

Everyone here who doesn’t use Head and Shoulders and doesn’t have dandruff is a corporate arsehat.

using PG2 or ipfilter.dat or safepeer, or nipfilter is better than doing nothing at all.

Says who?
What evidence is there to support such a claim?

Unless those products have had their names hijacked recently by a far more intelligent crew, then they still consist of a bunch of know-nothing-idiots making guesses as to which netblocks to ban, based solely on such idiotic crap as whether the name of a website hosted there sounds “suspicious”.

I don’t know how many levels that is retarded on, but it’s a fkn lot.

The last time I bothered to look at it, there was a netblock banned because it hosted the website for the Nevada Gaming Commission.

You could take the next 5 years off work and you still wouldn’t be able to come up with a scenario where that provides you any useful service AT ALL, so why would you assume it is useful for avoiding anti-piracy efforts?

Never has the concept of a placebo been so hard to grasp apparently.

I’ve been filesharing since 1999 without problems. I’ve been using a defragmenter since about 2000. Clearly this is solution, and with just as much supporting evidence as any of these filters and far less ignorant BS claims to boot.

Likewise is TOR any good? I rmemeber reading recently that the exit nodes were a problem or something like that.

http://antsp2p.sourceforge.net/

Anywho…

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lol…

If calling us clueless is the best you can do, come back when you’re ready for an adult discussion.

[quote comment="263459"]“Blocklists do not offer protection”

Bullshit. They offer quite wide-ranging protection from known bad apples.[/quote]

Oh, that would be the wide ranging protection of blocking an entire /16 or /24 range because of a single IP then?
Anyone blocking that amount of IPs would stand a good chance of hitting something.
Perhaps if Bush invades another 10 countries, he can find Bin Laden the PG way.

[quote comment="263459"]They could, but they generally DON’T.

Why? Because they already have a target rich environment where the majority do not use IP blocking. Why jump through extra hoops when they already have more fish in the barrel than they can shoot?[/quote]
Did you even read the leaked emails?
The one where they are discussing buying blocks in south america perhaps? It’s not like they’re on a tight budget or anything.

[quote comment="263459"]“All blocklists do is block legitimate IPs from joining swarms.”

LMAO! How legitimate can they be if they’re on a blocklist? 99.9999% of the time, there is a very good reason why a certain IP has been added to the blocklist.[/quote]
Because an IP has been added to a blocklist that is known for its over-paranoid nature, it must be a bad IP?
I personally have had seedboxes added because they happened to be in an IP range owned by, gasp, a colo provider. Friends have had their IPs blocked. One guy I know who runs a colo had his entire range blocked. He’s a sysop of a well known major site, and he provides hosting to other torrent sites. Every one of them is on the blocked because blocklist authors love to do block entire ranges.

Getting yourself removed from the list is a lot harder than getting yourself on it. If you’re lucky, it might happen within 3-4 months.

You should also check your 99.9999% figure. Blocklists are well known for taking out all neighbouring IPs.
In the cases where they block entire /16 or /24 ranges, their hit rate is one in 256 or one in 65536. That’s either 0.0015% or 0.4% hit rate. In other words, 99.6% – 99.9985% of IPs blocked for no good reason at all.
Unlike your figure that’s grabbed out of thin air, this one actually has some basis in mathematics.
[quote comment="263459"]And finally, any thinking person would have to ponder just who would benefit the most by7 posting on forums about how blocklists don’t work, blocklists are useless, blocklists won’t protect you, etc.

Hmm, who could these naysayers be? Why are they so-o-o intent on dissuading people from using PG and blocklists? Perhaps, just perhaps, these asshats have the best interests of a certain industry on their agenda rather than the best interests of filesharers.[/quote]
Oooh, more insults. What a great way to make a point.

I don’t personally give 2 hoots if you run PG or any other blocklist. I am not trying to force you to stop using it, nor am I resorting to insults to spread a message.
Fact is, you and others like you would have us all believe we are screwed without PG. In all the years that I have not been running PG, you know how many C+D letters I have received? Zero. I have on the other hand seen plenty of complaints from PG users that they received letters.

If you can spare a couple of minutes in your hectic schedule of being professionally angry, perhaps you can figure out how blocklists work. They rely on people finding out what IPs are being used by various monitoring companies. I wonder how they find that out? It couldn’t possibly be a case of waiting for someone to be caught could it?

If you want to use PG, go ahead. Just stop the BS about it providing protection, or how we’ll all be sued if we don’t use it. Pulling figures out of your ass and calling people asshats will not win any kind of debate.

P.S. I’ve never worked for any media industry or any of the tracking companies. Who do you work for? Are you linked to PG in any way, do you perhaps supply fictional bad IPs to add to their lists? You’ve got way more anger than a regular fanboi.

there are or must be soon ultra secret sites on the net that bin files,iso etc are dumped, where none of us know where yet.maybe oneday l will start a site like this .but maybe you might never find it ever ![/quote]

your website link is B.S i went to:

http://whatismyip.com

found my IP and entered it and it said i lived in ohio. now i don’t fucking live in ohio. but maybe it tracks where the company that gives you your IP is located?

ah i didn’t think of the fact that if they’re downloading, they’re also seeding which in turn means they’re distributing copyrighted material

I mean if they can track me down because of this method than who is to say that i can’t do the same to them.

if i charged for downloading the file because my ip is registered there than anti-p2p companies are doing it ilegal as well.[/quote]

not true. anti-P2P companies get the owners consent to download said material. one only infringes copyright when they neither own nor have proper consent to acquire said product(IIRC :-) )

would guess this is the way…

Anyone that thinks otherwise is a complete Gimp and commonly known as a gullible plonker![/quote]

Noob

I had a horrible dream last night, it was all about file sharing and possible consequences of it. I think the media industry will not stop until we’re either in a complete surveillance society or they’re bankrupt. We cannot expect any insight from them.