Comments on: Virgin Media: ‘Absolutely No Possibility’ of Disconnecting File-Sharers

By: wraith36

wraith36 — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:05:57 +0000

to 49.

virgin records was sold by richard branson and is no concert to him or vm.

he sold made the money and left the building.

In the June of 1992 Branson sold of Virgin Records to Thorn EMI for an estimated $1 billion deal.

hes not arsed one little bit.

By: wraith36

wraith36 — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:54:44 +0000

to 31

all phone calls wether mobile or landline are monitored.

but only for keywords like bomb and a lot more too.

so you need to watch what you say all the time. GCHQ do it and do it all the time.

even satalite phones are monitored.

so you cant have a silent fart in peace.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:20:06 +0000

…now they are blocking specific URLs…VM no access but proxy ok…..

By: DREAMER

DREAMER — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:45:30 +0000

The real funny thing is, i bet that a good few of virgin employees’ use p2p and probably share the most illegal shit because they can get cheap high-speed internet access from a favor with their mate at work lol.

THIS SHIT WILL NEVER WORK!!! THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ANOTHER WAY !! ALWAYS!!!

By: Netpirate

Netpirate — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:03:03 +0000

its true the goverment needs to start worrying about real crime and not people downloading. Use newsgroups, like giganews with ssl. no torrents, no p2p. Just downloads at max speed. so much faster than torrents and p2p. p2p is pathetic anyways, why get busted for downloading a few crap quality songs at a slow speed, when you can get a better quality, whole album in the same time and not get busted.

By: Kevin Ballard

Kevin Ballard — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:28:35 +0000

If the Government want to legislate, go ahead…Some 10 yrs old downloading a music file….

While outside another person is stabbed…

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:25:41 +0000

I use torrents, actually not for music, If I receive a letter, I will leave Virgin Immediately, Period.

There are millions of valid torrents.

The music industry should police there own policies.

If this is not a European policy we in the UK are discriminated against.

Im prepared to take virgin to the small claims court <Â£500 if we all do it I wonder what will happen?

By: Matty

Matty — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:32 +0000

God so many people talk such rubbish.

Do you people not know that the goverment has said they will legislate if the industry do not do something themselfs. Nobody wants that!!!!

This is VM’s attempt at keeping the BPI happy while avoiding the goverment bringing new laws in.

By: The Phantom Dumper

The Phantom Dumper — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:34:13 +0000

Yes Ed that is a very good point.
I walked away from Virgin as soon as they started Traffic Shaping, If I was with Virgin now I would run away. When you see a Virgin van in the street, well need I say it. And if anyone asks you, I didn’t tell you to dump on it, Richard told you to do it while you were asleep.
Do NOT do nothing.

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:55:37 +0000

It’s interesting that they threaten to disconnect you if you download copyrighted music, but not if you download royalty-free child pornography.

By: nlove94965

nlove94965 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:51:12 +0000

I wouldnt trust virgin media, I heard back from them the other week, they had a court order to give davenport lyons our i.p address to which they then have accussed us as the bill payer of downloading two worlds, which we havent done and nobody else has done , so I shall have my day in court with them and intend to sue them all.

By: absoulutly pissed off!

absoulutly pissed off! — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:56:47 +0000

they are all traitors in my eyes! if anyone hands over you details its an invasion of privacy on your own behalf so shouldn`t we sue them as reguards to human rights??? talk about taking the piss and trying to take control of everything in this world! let us be we do no harm go catch some real criminals!!!!!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:56:25 +0000

good for you virgin media, now lets see all the other isps follow suit and tell these assholes to f-off

By: Dynamic Torrents

Dynamic Torrents — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:44:23 +0000

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By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:34:22 +0000

“Virgin: We Rat On Our customers”(TM)

Nice business slogan there, Richard Branson.

By: D

Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:03:53 +0000

six million file-sharer’s? that’s 10% of the UK’s population. i think tht is a big portion. there will not be enough jail space to hold everyone, lol

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:00:17 +0000

I am not very good at website design, but I have attempted to create a pledge for people who are willing to struggle for a cause, so that there might be a chance that we could take action collectively.

It is at http://www.28chan.org/pledge.php

What do you people think?

By: Deutscher

Deutscher — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:00:09 +0000

excuse me, I english not so gut!

is
“Absolutely No Possibility”
the englisch translation for
“Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten.”

:-|

By: *******

******* — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:13:00 +0000

VM suck donkey balls. So do all of you.

By: Anon

Anon — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:11:24 +0000

@the claims that anonymisers can be broken.

You’re an idiot too. Either the people running the proxy told your ISP or you’re a n00b and didn’t set it up properly in the first place. Wanker.

By: Anon

Anon — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:08:03 +0000

@ the person who claimed SSL can be broken.

Theoretically yes, practically no. Get your facts right before posting such bullshit. Idiot.

By: kid british

kid british — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:58:38 +0000

BT Suck, people DO have a choice. You don’t rely on cable, stop your subscription.

Losing a few channels is worth it to take your money out of their pockets.

By: MPAA

MPAA — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:04:13 +0000

omfg lol

printing mistake my ballz

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:54:39 +0000

shit typo!
: instead of ; at the lower then place
but you got the idea
oh and the three caracters mustbe together without spaces between them of course!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:52:26 +0000

@evian

make that & gt ; resp. & lt ;

“andlowerthensemicolon”
“andgreaterthensemicolon” to have the htlm sourcecodelike symbols displayed

<:chemical_ali>”absolutely no possibility”<:/chemical_ali>

By: @23

@23 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:59:40 +0000

easy, someone at the proxy’s company told them.

By: nexus

nexus — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:03:32 +0000

not trust them

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:54:12 +0000

The more people who phone virgin and complain about what they are doing the better they will soon get the message

By: me

me — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:03:20 +0000

Virgin media are playing both sides of the fence, do not trust them, if you have a viable alternative get rid of them ASAP.
DO NOT TRUST VIRGIN MEDIA

By: John W

John W — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:00:15 +0000

I think VM sense a mass exodus, which is why they’re making some feeble attempt to say otherwise. I think post 49 from the blob sums up why no one should use VM.

I only know 1 person who uses VM and they don’t seem to care too much about VM snooping, which I think sadly is the general attitiude from the majority of the population of internet users.

They love Microsoft, hate filesharing etc.. But don’t even know why they hold this view or understand how any of the tech they use works.

By: Norm

Norm — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:09:45 +0000

If they are slimy enough to send those warnings per request of the MAFIAA, why should we believe them when they promise not to disconnect us.

By: *********

********* — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:04:13 +0000

cant we just dump everything into
teh internetz bins !

By: NastyBedazzler

NastyBedazzler — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:42:45 +0000

This might have already been said but I can’t jump on Virgins ass for handing out customer information when a court orders them to do so. Especially as a big corporation it would be in their best interest to comply with the government and adhere to court rulings. Just my 2 cents.

As far as Virgin working with the BPI and sending out disconnection threats… that’s GAF (Gay As Fuck). Hopefully they’re telling the truth when they say they aren’t disconnecting anybody but as some posters already argued it’s probably just PR bullshit. Give it time.

By: #YLS#

#YLS# — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:31:27 +0000

I’d like to know, is there any alternative to Virgin with out using ADSL?

Yeh i think everyone looks to VPNs as a solution but truely it isn’t. It’d be better if someone came up with a combinded solution that use torrent style connections with VPN like protocals.

By: Evian

Evian — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:22:59 +0000

[chemical_ali]“absolutely no possibility”[/chemical_ali]

Don’t believe their lies for a moment. This is a public relations showpiece by a healthy selection of the worst service providers in the country.

By: Blob

Blob — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:57:51 +0000

Also Virgin are a bunch of shitbags:

# They own 100% of the UK residential cable market
# They cap connections after ‘unlimited’ usage limits have been surpassed
# The Virgin Group has a vested interest in the success of its own record label Virgin Records (now part of EMI)
# The Virgin Group has a vested interest in the success of its own high-street cd/dvd/games retail company, Zavvi.
# Virgin Media are against net neutrality. The CEO says it’s “a load of bollocks”

By: Blob

Blob — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:40:09 +0000

“SSL too, but i think that will be the first place that will cave to any subpoena as its based in the US”

Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) is a method of encrypting traffic between a client and server – a method based on well-documented mathematical principles. Public domain mathematical principles are not subject to subpoenas nor are they constrained to geographical bounds.

* * *

BitTorrent Encryption ONLY prevents against ISP traffic shaping and does NOT reduce your chances of being caught sharing. Your IP address can still be obtained from the tracker by absolutely _anyone_ on the internet.

‘Encryption’ is NOT anonymity.

Furthermore, data can _always_ be decrypted using brute-force attacks. Employing stronger degrees of encryption merely increases the time it takes for an adversary to decrypt your data. Organisations and governments have built large-scale grid computing networks that have the capacity to do just that.

* * *

Also, People seem to forget that P2P means peer-to-peer, i.e., users connecting directly to other users. It is 100% impossible to have anonymous P2P, whether the data exchanged is enciphered or not. Obviously, in order for data to be exchanged the destination and source both need to be known.

* * *

The only future for public file-sharing is to route everything over anonymity networks such as Tor and have zero resources outside of these networks. However, this would require huge amounts of bandwidth which relatively small scale networks (such as Tor) cannot provide.

By: Numbnuts

Numbnuts — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:53:29 +0000

wasn’t it the VM head honcho whob said “this net neuality things bollocks”.

that gives you a little wink to what type of company those unfortunate not to have a choice have to deal with.

By: encrypt

encrypt — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:40:38 +0000

To protect my connection I force encryption between bit torrent clients(using utorrent), and use isohunts ssl site. I then use an anonymizer to create a swarm for myself of dynamically assigned ip addresses that have nothing to do with me. The only way I could be found is if they trace my ack packet somehow by breaking encryption and grab my MAC address out of that, in which case I will spoof my MAC address or change my network card/hardware.

By: bill hicks

bill hicks — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:19:39 +0000

what if you download from usenet is this the same because your not actually sharing with anyone else

By: greylion

greylion — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:34:49 +0000

Anybody remember the Iraqi Minister of Truth?
Virgin Media is starting to sound like him..

By: Reacto

Reacto — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:43:52 +0000

Wait wait wait, isnt Virgin a record company itself?

By: blah blah blah

blah blah blah — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:10:59 +0000

Blah you need to get your facts sorted before you start making assertions. I was with Telewest who got bought out/taken over by Virgin. I was a Telewest customer I am now a Virgin customer. Virgin sucks.

By: HA

HA — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:41:33 +0000

Virgin losing customers already? F U Virgin and any ISP that tries to invade our ship.

By: zarathustra

zarathustra — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:31:27 +0000

#22 Jul 03, 2008 at 14:55 by blah

You know jack sh1t. I was on the V.Mobile IT Support team from startup. They’ve absolutely _nothing_ to do with NTL/Telewest…

Please acquire cl00 before poasting further…

By: haddock

haddock — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:07:37 +0000

but they have already handed over my details to davenport lyons????
are we supposed to trust them??

By: Antiphorm

Antiphorm — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:55:48 +0000

Yeah but wait till they implement phorm – then they will be spying on EVERYTHING you do!

http://www.badphorm.co.uk

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:26:40 +0000

THANK GOD (or perhaps teh interwebs) FOR THIS. MAYBE I WON’T LEAVE VM NOW!

By: anon2

anon2 — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:57:00 +0000

absolute load of bollocks!! Virgin pass customers details on to solicitor firms and get them to do the dirty work. people are then supposed to think that Virgin are not responsible for the threats of disconnection and court action. the story above is an attempt to relieve all the bad P.R. dont get taken in by the bull shit!! the anti-piracy agencies wont be happy until they have destroyed the internet, dont care who they use to help them achieve that or the consequences to anyone else. all they will gain, hopefully, is contempt, fewer customers and fewer sales.

By: pink panther

pink panther — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:56:25 +0000

The obvious question to ask if that, if the language “your broadband will be disconnected” is a George Orwell class “mistake” then … why would “under no circumstances” also not be retconned into a mistake? Why would anyone believe it when you can’t trust something in writing?