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	<title>Comments on: Virgin Media to Throttle BitTorrent Users</title>
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		<title>By: Intimidated</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-526926</link>
		<dc:creator>Intimidated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few issues with this posting. 
 
First of all, it should be noted that US ISP&#039;s are in the stoneage compared to the UK and the rest of europe (particularly sweden). It&#039;s common in the UK to have a 24mbit connection, in the US you don&#039;t often get above six. 
 
Also, Eclipse, Freedom2Surf and TalkTalk are all owned by Pipex (Freedom2Surf used to be a reputable ISP before the takeover). 
 
It is, however, true that some ISP&#039;s throttle traffic. But then, only stupid people become customers of these ISP&#039;s.  If my ISP throttles my traffic, I move. 
 
Right now, i&#039;m with BeThere.co.uk, i get 24mbit speeds and no traffic shaping or traffic limits. 
 
What this all boils down to:  The average net user in the USA will have an inferior bittorrent experience than those in the UK.  And, comcast are STILL throttling traffic, regardless of the ruling. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few issues with this posting. </p>
<p>First of all, it should be noted that US ISP&#039;s are in the stoneage compared to the UK and the rest of europe (particularly sweden). It&#039;s common in the UK to have a 24mbit connection, in the US you don&#039;t often get above six. </p>
<p>Also, Eclipse, Freedom2Surf and TalkTalk are all owned by Pipex (Freedom2Surf used to be a reputable ISP before the takeover). </p>
<p>It is, however, true that some ISP&#039;s throttle traffic. But then, only stupid people become customers of these ISP&#039;s.  If my ISP throttles my traffic, I move. </p>
<p>Right now, i&#039;m with BeThere.co.uk, i get 24mbit speeds and no traffic shaping or traffic limits. </p>
<p>What this all boils down to:  The average net user in the USA will have an inferior bittorrent experience than those in the UK.  And, comcast are STILL throttling traffic, regardless of the ruling.</p>
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		<title>By: Sneakyfcknrusky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sneakyfcknrusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bandwidth my arse, They have been advertising that they have super fast fibre optic cables and say they don&#039;t have enough bandwidth. For example I have 20mb internet from VM and I am the only person in my street with a computer connected to the internet and they are saying that if I download whatever i&#039;m downloading I&#039;m hurting these people with no internet anyway ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bandwidth my arse, They have been advertising that they have super fast fibre optic cables and say they don&#039;t have enough bandwidth. For example I have 20mb internet from VM and I am the only person in my street with a computer connected to the internet and they are saying that if I download whatever i&#039;m downloading I&#039;m hurting these people with no internet anyway &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-522172</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sky Broadband is fantastic.  Cheap, fast and they really do not give a shit as all their money is for the telly service. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sky Broadband is fantastic.  Cheap, fast and they really do not give a shit as all their money is for the telly service.</p>
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		<title>By: tv tuner for laptop</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-521948</link>
		<dc:creator>tv tuner for laptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;tv tuner for laptop...&lt;/strong&gt;

I was looking through your past posts. Great job there....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>tv tuner for laptop&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I was looking through your past posts. Great job there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: watch tv on pc</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-521850</link>
		<dc:creator>watch tv on pc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;free satellite tv on pc software downloads...&lt;/strong&gt;

What is being shared here allowed me to come out which fresh content. Any similar posts like this?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>free satellite tv on pc software downloads&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>What is being shared here allowed me to come out which fresh content. Any similar posts like this?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-521207</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask yourself the question would you purchase 50mb BB for just surfing the internet? 

The obvious answer is no so that leaves 3 types of customers

The Downloader who is being throttled 

The Gamer &amp; those who do both

Only Gamers will benefit from 50MB BB 

Virgin have no clue if they are going to throttle any of its downloaders as they will just move onto another ISP

UK Online are a fantastic ISP with no throttling of its customers

Go get it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask yourself the question would you purchase 50mb BB for just surfing the internet? </p>
<p>The obvious answer is no so that leaves 3 types of customers</p>
<p>The Downloader who is being throttled </p>
<p>The Gamer &amp; those who do both</p>
<p>Only Gamers will benefit from 50MB BB </p>
<p>Virgin have no clue if they are going to throttle any of its downloaders as they will just move onto another ISP</p>
<p>UK Online are a fantastic ISP with no throttling of its customers</p>
<p>Go get it</p>
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		<title>By: Pissed off Virgin Media Customer</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-521062</link>
		<dc:creator>Pissed off Virgin Media Customer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could Virgin possibly impose any more restraint on their customers? Their &quot;Trafffic Management&quot; policy is already complete bull shit, and now they want to futher the already-massive number of complaints they are getting from slow speeds?

I have a 10Mb connection with VM, and I can tell you that I RARELY ever get my full bandwidth. When downloading, I have NEVER been able to break the barrier of a 1Mb connection. Its PATHETIC that a paying 10Mb customer is reduced 10x of their actual speed.

I&#039;m stuck with this arsehole of a company and I will be forced to until about mid 2009, which is when I&#039;ll be leaving them for good. Not to mention their maniac of a CEO who cares nothing for his customers but the dow that is stolen from their very pockets. Fuck You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could Virgin possibly impose any more restraint on their customers? Their &#8220;Trafffic Management&#8221; policy is already complete bull shit, and now they want to futher the already-massive number of complaints they are getting from slow speeds?</p>
<p>I have a 10Mb connection with VM, and I can tell you that I RARELY ever get my full bandwidth. When downloading, I have NEVER been able to break the barrier of a 1Mb connection. Its PATHETIC that a paying 10Mb customer is reduced 10x of their actual speed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m stuck with this arsehole of a company and I will be forced to until about mid 2009, which is when I&#8217;ll be leaving them for good. Not to mention their maniac of a CEO who cares nothing for his customers but the dow that is stolen from their very pockets. Fuck You.</p>
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		<title>By: BeBroadband</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-521022</link>
		<dc:creator>BeBroadband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#58 
Aol we had b4 and it was terrible(expensive and slow+ their browser and emailsystem is auful).
Also it was almost impossible to cancel their service(they kept saying &quot;Ok, wait a few days..&quot;,
 we had to take them to court !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#58<br />
Aol we had b4 and it was terrible(expensive and slow+ their browser and emailsystem is auful).<br />
Also it was almost impossible to cancel their service(they kept saying &#8220;Ok, wait a few days..&#8221;,<br />
 we had to take them to court !</p>
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		<title>By: BeBroadband</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-521021</link>
		<dc:creator>BeBroadband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I convinced my friend in London to choose BE over a year ago. There was no issue with them since at all. Wooping 8Mega down/3Mega up+ telephone, all 17 Quid(pounds). Virgin was always a pain in the a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad I convinced my friend in London to choose BE over a year ago. There was no issue with them since at all. Wooping 8Mega down/3Mega up+ telephone, all 17 Quid(pounds). Virgin was always a pain in the a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Miro - Internet TV Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Affirms Net Neutrality, Britannia Doesn&#8217;t</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520805</link>
		<dc:creator>Miro - Internet TV Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Affirms Net Neutrality, Britannia Doesn&#8217;t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been quoted as saying, &#8220;This net neutrality thing is a load of bollocks.” Torrent Freak reports that Virgin Media, along with a slew of other British ISP&#8217;s, have opted to filter, throttle, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been quoted as saying, &#8220;This net neutrality thing is a load of bollocks.” Torrent Freak reports that Virgin Media, along with a slew of other British ISP&#8217;s, have opted to filter, throttle, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happens everywhere in society. They will sell you a car that goes at 200 mph , then limit you to max. 70 mph and fine you if you go more than 73mph. They like to give us the capability but restrict us to the point of never using it.
There are not many other things you can get on the internet which require super fast connections, movies and media etc is about it really. An 8meg connection is not at all needed if all you are going to do is read emails and do your shopping. But its not just torrent traffic that gets throttled. Knapster, itunes, Last fm and many other legal services also get restricted. They call it a fair usage policy which translated means:
*We (isp) will let you download all you want at superfast speeds until we have got you to sign at least a 1 Year Contract (18 months even better),  once we have you in our grips then we are then free to f+[k you around as much as we deem fit because our fair usage policy is completely down to OUR discretion and extremely vague to say the absolute least(might be 0.5 gigs per day for one person and 2.5 gigs for somebody else).
*We the isp will take the money you give us on a monthly basis and will NOT at all spend the money on improved services but instead we will spend a fortune on technology that restricts you usage so we can then freely breech the contract we have made with you (The Client)but make it impossible for you to complain by simply putting the customer call centre somewhere on the other side of the world leaving our Head Office free to do whatever it likes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens everywhere in society. They will sell you a car that goes at 200 mph , then limit you to max. 70 mph and fine you if you go more than 73mph. They like to give us the capability but restrict us to the point of never using it.<br />
There are not many other things you can get on the internet which require super fast connections, movies and media etc is about it really. An 8meg connection is not at all needed if all you are going to do is read emails and do your shopping. But its not just torrent traffic that gets throttled. Knapster, itunes, Last fm and many other legal services also get restricted. They call it a fair usage policy which translated means:<br />
*We (isp) will let you download all you want at superfast speeds until we have got you to sign at least a 1 Year Contract (18 months even better),  once we have you in our grips then we are then free to f+[k you around as much as we deem fit because our fair usage policy is completely down to OUR discretion and extremely vague to say the absolute least(might be 0.5 gigs per day for one person and 2.5 gigs for somebody else).<br />
*We the isp will take the money you give us on a monthly basis and will NOT at all spend the money on improved services but instead we will spend a fortune on technology that restricts you usage so we can then freely breech the contract we have made with you (The Client)but make it impossible for you to complain by simply putting the customer call centre somewhere on the other side of the world leaving our Head Office free to do whatever it likes</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520707</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AOL UK throttle torrent traffic as well as tv streaming sites. They will not admit that openly but an inside source says they are using equipment known as SANDVINE.
Virgin Media on the other hand is a complete waste of space anyway, all they did was take over the old NTL cable service which also was a waste of space. If virgin actually started throttling connectings I doubt many people would even notice. Maybe othere areas are better but here where I live they along with aol are about the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AOL UK throttle torrent traffic as well as tv streaming sites. They will not admit that openly but an inside source says they are using equipment known as SANDVINE.<br />
Virgin Media on the other hand is a complete waste of space anyway, all they did was take over the old NTL cable service which also was a waste of space. If virgin actually started throttling connectings I doubt many people would even notice. Maybe othere areas are better but here where I live they along with aol are about the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: virginmedia4n00bs</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520567</link>
		<dc:creator>virginmedia4n00bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news!

Now all you n00bs on Virgin leave!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news!</p>
<p>Now all you n00bs on Virgin leave!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Count Alucard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520562</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Alucard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virgin Media = The epitomy of the WORST company in (formerly Great, now bankrupt) Britain.  Ex 13 years Comcast, ntl: then Virgin Media Customer.   A family of baboons would be preferrable to their &quot;customer service&quot; call centre.  I just wish it was them going to the wall instead of Woollies.

Don&#039;t expect any change - I&#039;m sure Nu Labour are fully in bed with them and trousering some palm greasers as we speak.

Branson is a charlatan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virgin Media = The epitomy of the WORST company in (formerly Great, now bankrupt) Britain.  Ex 13 years Comcast, ntl: then Virgin Media Customer.   A family of baboons would be preferrable to their &#8220;customer service&#8221; call centre.  I just wish it was them going to the wall instead of Woollies.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t expect any change &#8211; I&#8217;m sure Nu Labour are fully in bed with them and trousering some palm greasers as we speak.</p>
<p>Branson is a charlatan.</p>
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		<title>By: Madcelt</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520524</link>
		<dc:creator>Madcelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sky MAX package is also unlimited and has no FUP</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Sparrow</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520511</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Sparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does apply to cable customers as im sure the vast amount of VM users are,  it is to be implemented next year, when they&#039;ll try to throttle piracy.    B*stards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does apply to cable customers as im sure the vast amount of VM users are,  it is to be implemented next year, when they&#8217;ll try to throttle piracy.    B*stards</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520494</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it right that this doesnt apply to cable customers? I am a vm cable customer and speeds usually slow down at peak times but this has recently improved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it right that this doesnt apply to cable customers? I am a vm cable customer and speeds usually slow down at peak times but this has recently improved.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520492</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post 48 says this hardly applies to cable customers. Is that right? I am a vm cable customer but usually experience slow speeds at peak times although this has recently improved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 48 says this hardly applies to cable customers. Is that right? I am a vm cable customer but usually experience slow speeds at peak times although this has recently improved.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520463</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P2P will evolve to cope with ISP&#039;s bull****.
(New p2p protocol) freak.com
I believe they know that!
Capping my bandwidth so they can afford the bandwidth to market 50mb or 20mb is one thing.
But filtering my traffic is another! 
Shame on you Virgin Media!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P2P will evolve to cope with ISP&#8217;s bull****.<br />
(New p2p protocol) freak.com<br />
I believe they know that!<br />
Capping my bandwidth so they can afford the bandwidth to market 50mb or 20mb is one thing.<br />
But filtering my traffic is another!<br />
Shame on you Virgin Media!</p>
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		<title>By: mehearty's</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-to-throttle-bittorrent-users-081216/#comment-520355</link>
		<dc:creator>mehearty's</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There exchanges are not concealed behind armoured fences,

If you want a better service make them pay, remember water and electricity does not mix....;0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There exchanges are not concealed behind armoured fences,</p>
<p>If you want a better service make them pay, remember water and electricity does not mix&#8230;.;0)</p>
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