Comments on: Vuze Reinvents Its BitTorrent Client http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:34:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: peter84peter http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-508405 peter84peter Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:02:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-508405 .. and all the old die-hard azureus-fans would think your company is pretty cool.. .. and all the old die-hard azureus-fans would think your
company is pretty cool..

]]> By: peter84peter http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-508403 peter84peter Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:00:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-508403 amc1 wrote (about trackers banning Vuze Bob ): "Weren’t people saying that months ago, and it still didn’t happen?" You mean at about the same time you released a Vuze Bob version that actually had "Vuze" as client ID ? How come you switched it back to "azureus" then ? Why don't you just make a azureus2.jar without the Bob UI and make it available as a download for those who know how to use a browser and a media-player ? Since you say it only takes 5 minutes you would save a lot of time that you are wasting defending Bob each new release . amc1 wrote (about trackers banning Vuze Bob ):
“Weren’t people saying that months ago, and it still didn’t happen?”

You mean at about the same time you released a Vuze Bob version that actually had “Vuze” as client ID ?
How come you switched it back to “azureus” then ?

Why don’t you just make a azureus2.jar without the Bob UI and
make it available as a download for those who know how to use a browser
and a media-player ? Since you say it only takes 5 minutes you would save a lot of time that you are wasting defending Bob each new release .

]]> By: amc1 http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-506393 amc1 Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:32:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-506393 @68 - if you've got something in particular that we can look at, post on our forums, perhaps we can see how things are. @69 - I think that's been fixed. @68 – if you’ve got something in particular that we can look at, post on our forums, perhaps we can see how things are.

@69 – I think that’s been fixed.

]]> By: Quassum http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-506058 Quassum Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:59:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-506058 Let's hope they finally fixed my bug report in this version. Have been manually removing that ugly progress bar that's always at 75% for me. The "Automatically remove inactive items" option stopped working after the 3.0 update. Let’s hope they finally fixed my bug report in this version. Have been manually removing that ugly progress bar that’s always at 75% for me. The “Automatically remove inactive items” option stopped working after the 3.0 update.

]]> By: Suomynona.Eno http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-506006 Suomynona.Eno Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:26:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-506006 @amc1 (well if you're lurking around) I got the latest as a fallback to Halite 0.3.1.1. But of course I'm in the "classic" UI camp, having the option to switch between UIs are still good though for experimenting purposes. Installed size on hdd remains 20+-ish Mbs which is good. There's NONE of that old clunk and heft, in fact I think 4.0.0.0 seems to improve in many ways at that. 1 puzzling thing that I just can't seem to figure are at Vuze's ability at peer connections local or remote and the ability to dodge hefty throttling. I don't quite know how to specify it but for lack of better examples, I'll put Halite in the perspective. Halite seems to be able to connect to as many as it could to those on plain text encryption and RC4 as well. It can hold them down, lets me use the set UL slots effectively when I can seed. Of course it's evident that I get better DL consistency. The older Vuze 3.1.0.0 works actually the same but halfway through it panned out the same as the current.Any hints as to why? To those having issues with DHT, no offense but I can't seem to reproduce the issue. Even disabled, Vuze are able to perform as advertised. Plus I don't see any diffs of DHT enabled or disabled, I leave it disabled 99% of the time. @amc1 (well if you’re lurking around)
I got the latest as a fallback to Halite 0.3.1.1. But of course I’m in the “classic” UI camp, having the option to switch between UIs are still good though for experimenting purposes. Installed size on hdd remains 20+-ish Mbs which is good. There’s NONE of that old clunk and heft, in fact I think 4.0.0.0 seems to improve in many ways at that. 1 puzzling thing that I just can’t seem to figure are at Vuze’s ability at peer connections local or remote and the ability to dodge hefty throttling. I don’t quite know how to specify it but for lack of better examples, I’ll put Halite in the perspective. Halite seems to be able to connect to as many as it could to those on plain text encryption and RC4 as well. It can hold them down, lets me use the set UL slots effectively when I can seed. Of course it’s evident that I get better DL consistency. The older Vuze 3.1.0.0 works actually the same but halfway through it panned out the same as the current.Any hints as to why? To those having issues with DHT, no offense but I can’t seem to reproduce the issue. Even disabled, Vuze are able to perform as advertised. Plus I don’t see any diffs of DHT enabled or disabled, I leave it disabled 99% of the time.

]]> By: LeadingTheNet http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-505853 LeadingTheNet Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:26:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-505853 I like the new theme and everything and don't care if it is a resource hog I have 4 gigs of RAM. Vuze 4 rocks :) I like the new theme and everything and don’t care if it is a resource hog I have 4 gigs of RAM. Vuze 4 rocks :)

]]> By: GC http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-505852 GC Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:25:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-505852 My dislike for Vuze is surpassed only by my dislike for uTorrent - to that end, use NoVuze! http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4281737/Azureus2.jar%5Bv3.1.1.0_NoVuze%5D @55 (amc1) "Vuse 4.0 is currently NOT supported by our tracker," - mass pm on one of my private trackers My dislike for Vuze is surpassed only by my dislike for uTorrent – to that end, use NoVuze!

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4281737/Azureus2.jar%5Bv3.1.1.0_NoVuze%5D

@55 (amc1)
“Vuse 4.0 is currently NOT supported by our tracker,” – mass pm on one of my private trackers

]]> By: RestoredFaithInVuze http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-505269 RestoredFaithInVuze Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:55:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-505269 As a long time Azureus user, I was about to abandon what is now called Vuze when they switched the UI to utter crap in the Vuze release. Azureus has been one of the staple bit torrent clients for a lot of people, and prior to being renamed and having it's user interface screwed up by trying to be first in the gold rush to monetize azureus for the purpose of ads, content and movie downloads they did a horrible job with the fist release of Vuze (formerly azureus). I used Azureus primarily simply because a bit-torrent client is a bit-torrent client is a bit-torrent client... it was functional enough even with the sluggish UI and the use of Java. Azureus was good enough until Vuze came along and totally screwed up the user interface. I'm happy to say that Vuze is much cleaner now and is back to satisfactory status. Bit-torrent clients don't really matter that much, as long as they are usable and get the job done, and don't slow my computer to a crawl or annoy the crap out of me with bad UI. As a long time Azureus user, I was about to abandon what is now called Vuze when they switched the UI to utter crap in the Vuze release.

Azureus has been one of the staple bit torrent clients for a lot of people, and prior to being renamed and having it’s user interface screwed up by trying to be first in the gold rush to monetize azureus for the purpose of ads, content and movie downloads they did a horrible job with the fist release of Vuze (formerly azureus).

I used Azureus primarily simply because a bit-torrent client is a bit-torrent client is a bit-torrent client… it was functional enough even with the sluggish UI and the use of Java.

Azureus was good enough until Vuze came along and totally screwed up the user interface. I’m happy to say that Vuze is much cleaner now and is back to satisfactory status.

Bit-torrent clients don’t really matter that much, as long as they are usable and get the job done, and don’t slow my computer to a crawl or annoy the crap out of me with bad UI.

]]> By: Nova versão do Vuze permite pesquisar em trackers privados de torrents | Remixtures http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-505223 Nova versão do Vuze permite pesquisar em trackers privados de torrents | Remixtures Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:44:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-505223 [...] leiam o changelog. O director executivo da companhia Gilles Bianrosa conversou com a NewTeeVee e o TorrentFreak a propósito do presente e do futuro da [...] [...] leiam o changelog. O director executivo da companhia Gilles Bianrosa conversou com a NewTeeVee e o TorrentFreak a propósito do presente e do futuro da [...]

]]> By: mister_playboy http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-505087 mister_playboy Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:19:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-505087 You can bring up the "old" style advanced view from 3.x by clicking on the right hand View button. This is located in the upper right area of My Library screen. As stated, the new view omits important basic torrent information such as seeds and peers, upload speed, etc. For example, a seeding torrent went to "queued", and that got me to checking my settings as I don't have a limit on # of seeding torrents... I switched views, saw I had no leechers, and solved the mystery. The default UI is going downhill, no doubt about it. You can bring up the “old” style advanced view from 3.x by clicking on the right hand View button. This is located in the upper right area of My Library screen.

As stated, the new view omits important basic torrent information such as seeds and peers, upload speed, etc.

For example, a seeding torrent went to “queued”, and that got me to checking my settings as I don’t have a limit on # of seeding torrents… I switched views, saw I had no leechers, and solved the mystery.

The default UI is going downhill, no doubt about it.

]]> By: Charlie Freak http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-505068 Charlie Freak Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:01:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-505068 I like it. Looks great, works great. I think they did a great job of integrating the classic (advanced) UI. I like it. Looks great, works great. I think they did a great job of integrating the classic (advanced) UI.

]]> By: monster_mack http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504922 monster_mack Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:10:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504922 I started off with bittornado, then changed to azureus. But then, it changed to vuze,and became very resource heavy, I changed to utorrent. Thanks. I started off with bittornado, then changed to azureus. But then, it changed to vuze,and became very resource heavy, I changed to utorrent. Thanks.

]]> By: ha http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504731 ha Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:20:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504731 Ive been an azureus user for years but there are some major annoying problems with the client that remain to be fixed. Its implimention of DHT is absolute crap. The Vuze wiki likes to blame it on 'bad routers' when those router are probably the most widely used equipment on residential connections. No other client I've tried completely kills internet browsing whith DHT/PEX enabled, so I fail to understand why Vuze does. Another is adware. Yep, Vuze now has advertisements. Just great. Thats what I like to see in a bittorrent client, damn adverts that cannot be disbaled. Funny thing is most of the time its a targeted advert for Virgin Media broadband, which I already have. Next is the changes to the UI. When using the library in list view, double click no longer opens the detail, but Explorer. Details need to be accessed via context which is crap. Also, in Uploading, there is no column for upload speed. WTF. Last but not least, toolbars. Yeah I know you can untick the box and not have them installed, but why the fork are they even there in the first place. Every god damn installer now seems to want to install some shitty toolbar. As time goes on, Vuze just becomes more FAIL. I've downloaded Deluge and am seriously considering ditching Vuze once and for all because as fr as I'm concerned they have completely lost the plot. Ive been an azureus user for years but there are some major annoying problems with the client that remain to be fixed. Its implimention of DHT is absolute crap. The Vuze wiki likes to blame it on ‘bad routers’ when those router are probably the most widely used equipment on residential connections. No other client I’ve tried completely kills internet browsing whith DHT/PEX enabled, so I fail to understand why Vuze does.

Another is adware. Yep, Vuze now has advertisements. Just great. Thats what I like to see in a bittorrent client, damn adverts that cannot be disbaled. Funny thing is most of the time its a targeted advert for Virgin Media broadband, which I already have.

Next is the changes to the UI. When using the library in list view, double click no longer opens the detail, but Explorer. Details need to be accessed via context which is crap. Also, in Uploading, there is no column for upload speed. WTF.

Last but not least, toolbars. Yeah I know you can untick the box and not have them installed, but why the fork are they even there in the first place. Every god damn installer now seems to want to install some shitty toolbar.

As time goes on, Vuze just becomes more FAIL. I’ve downloaded Deluge and am seriously considering ditching Vuze once and for all because as fr as I’m concerned they have completely lost the plot.

]]> By: h33t http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504659 h33t Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:35:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504659 #44 by IHateVuze "I hate what Vuze is and what it represents. Been using the last version of Azureus 2 (2.5.0.4) since version 3 has nothing decent other than corporate filth." there is a shred of truth in there. bittorrent vets, like many people, may resent the commercialisation of their traditional tools and emblems. this is where Vuze is weak, Azureus was a huge symbol for file sharers, Vuze was the sell out the transition of our networks into the mainstream does not necessarily mean we lose our identity. i actually believe the file sharing identity is something very special and unique and difficult to dilute or pervert bittorrent was always about freedom from vulgar media cartel commercialization. bittorrent is the liberating tool where the people take back what was taken from them, their music, their art, their creativity, their ownership of their work, their right to share their knowledge their ideas their property their opportunities their benefits their lives Vuze you did not have to leave us, you can still hire yourself a professional marketer and segment your products and markets to better hit your targets. the all singing all dancing marvellous machine is a huge mistake. your marketing management needs replacing http://www.h33t.com where it is h0t #44 by IHateVuze
“I hate what Vuze is and what it represents.

Been using the last version of Azureus 2 (2.5.0.4) since version 3 has nothing decent other than corporate filth.”

there is a shred of truth in there. bittorrent vets, like many people, may resent the commercialisation of their traditional tools and emblems.
this is where Vuze is weak, Azureus was a huge symbol for file sharers, Vuze was the sell out

the transition of our networks into the mainstream does not necessarily mean we lose our identity. i actually believe the file sharing identity is something very special and unique and difficult to dilute or pervert

bittorrent was always about freedom from vulgar media cartel commercialization. bittorrent is the liberating tool where the people take back what was taken from them, their music, their art, their creativity, their ownership of their work, their right to share their knowledge their ideas their property their opportunities their benefits their lives

Vuze you did not have to leave us, you can still hire yourself a professional marketer and segment your products and markets to better hit your targets. the all singing all dancing marvellous machine is a huge mistake. your marketing management needs replacing

http://www.h33t.com where it is h0t

]]> By: Pebl http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504644 Pebl Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:37:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504644 I never liked Vuze. From what I read I will like 4.0 even less. If they listened to their users I must be a big exception, which I doubt. I'm still using the old Azureus UI and that was not left there without reason. I will switch to uTorrent and will not even try 4.0 I never liked Vuze. From what I read I will like 4.0 even less. If they listened to their users I must be a big exception, which I doubt. I’m still using the old Azureus UI and that was not left there without reason.

I will switch to uTorrent and will not even try 4.0

]]> By: hmmm http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504635 hmmm Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:46:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504635 stfu with your crapware, amc1 your plan is to attract noobs ? all the companies who do so have evil on mind. so, stfu, and if possible, get fucked by a donkey :D stfu with your crapware, amc1

your plan is to attract noobs ? all the companies who do so have evil on mind.

so, stfu, and if possible, get fucked by a donkey :D

]]> By: Name http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504621 Name Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:09:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504621 I will use Vuze while 2.x interface is here. I will use Vuze while 2.x interface is here.

]]> By: amc1 http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504597 amc1 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:40:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504597 @55 - "haha, now just to wait until vuze gets banned from trackers." Weren't people saying that months ago, and it still didn't happen? http://torrentfreak.com/azureus-is-dead-vuze-goes-social-080616/comment-page-5/#comment-422233 @55 – “haha, now just to wait until vuze gets banned from trackers.”

Weren’t people saying that months ago, and it still didn’t happen?

http://torrentfreak.com/azureus-is-dead-vuze-goes-social-080616/comment-page-5/#comment-422233

]]> By: hmmm http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504562 hmmm Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:06:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504562 haha, now just to wait until vuze gets banned from trackers. haha, now just to wait until vuze gets banned from trackers.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/vuze-reinvents-its-bittorrent-client-081013/#comment-504551 Anonymous Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:32:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5567#comment-504551 Oh fuck! iTunes-like gay interface! Oh fuck! iTunes-like gay interface!

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