You mean at about the same time you released a Vuze Bob version that actually had “Vuze” as client ID ?
How come you switched it back to “azureus” then ?

Why don’t you just make a azureus2.jar without the Bob UI and
make it available as a download for those who know how to use a browser
and a media-player ? Since you say it only takes 5 minutes you would save a lot of time that you are wasting defending Bob each new release .

@69 – I think that’s been fixed.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4281737/Azureus2.jar%5Bv3.1.1.0_NoVuze%5D

@55 (amc1)
“Vuse 4.0 is currently NOT supported by our tracker,” – mass pm on one of my private trackers

Azureus has been one of the staple bit torrent clients for a lot of people, and prior to being renamed and having it’s user interface screwed up by trying to be first in the gold rush to monetize azureus for the purpose of ads, content and movie downloads they did a horrible job with the fist release of Vuze (formerly azureus).

I used Azureus primarily simply because a bit-torrent client is a bit-torrent client is a bit-torrent client… it was functional enough even with the sluggish UI and the use of Java.

Azureus was good enough until Vuze came along and totally screwed up the user interface. I’m happy to say that Vuze is much cleaner now and is back to satisfactory status.

Bit-torrent clients don’t really matter that much, as long as they are usable and get the job done, and don’t slow my computer to a crawl or annoy the crap out of me with bad UI.

As stated, the new view omits important basic torrent information such as seeds and peers, upload speed, etc.

For example, a seeding torrent went to “queued”, and that got me to checking my settings as I don’t have a limit on # of seeding torrents… I switched views, saw I had no leechers, and solved the mystery.

The default UI is going downhill, no doubt about it.

Another is adware. Yep, Vuze now has advertisements. Just great. Thats what I like to see in a bittorrent client, damn adverts that cannot be disbaled. Funny thing is most of the time its a targeted advert for Virgin Media broadband, which I already have.

Next is the changes to the UI. When using the library in list view, double click no longer opens the detail, but Explorer. Details need to be accessed via context which is crap. Also, in Uploading, there is no column for upload speed. WTF.

Last but not least, toolbars. Yeah I know you can untick the box and not have them installed, but why the fork are they even there in the first place. Every god damn installer now seems to want to install some shitty toolbar.

As time goes on, Vuze just becomes more FAIL. I’ve downloaded Deluge and am seriously considering ditching Vuze once and for all because as fr as I’m concerned they have completely lost the plot.

Been using the last version of Azureus 2 (2.5.0.4) since version 3 has nothing decent other than corporate filth.”

there is a shred of truth in there. bittorrent vets, like many people, may resent the commercialisation of their traditional tools and emblems.
this is where Vuze is weak, Azureus was a huge symbol for file sharers, Vuze was the sell out

the transition of our networks into the mainstream does not necessarily mean we lose our identity. i actually believe the file sharing identity is something very special and unique and difficult to dilute or pervert

bittorrent was always about freedom from vulgar media cartel commercialization. bittorrent is the liberating tool where the people take back what was taken from them, their music, their art, their creativity, their ownership of their work, their right to share their knowledge their ideas their property their opportunities their benefits their lives

Vuze you did not have to leave us, you can still hire yourself a professional marketer and segment your products and markets to better hit your targets. the all singing all dancing marvellous machine is a huge mistake. your marketing management needs replacing

http://www.h33t.com where it is h0t

I will switch to uTorrent and will not even try 4.0

your plan is to attract noobs ? all the companies who do so have evil on mind.

so, stfu, and if possible, get fucked by a donkey :D

Weren’t people saying that months ago, and it still didn’t happen?

http://torrentfreak.com/azureus-is-dead-vuze-goes-social-080616/comment-page-5/#comment-422233

@ 4 All the major players support magnet: I think
@ 7 Why don’t you use labels? Search like iTunes is http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=3735
@ 14 They are the same program http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Azureus_2_and_Vuze#For_the_.22I_don.27t_like_Vuze.22_crowd
@ 17 Indeed I agree. uTorrent packs great efficiency for usage, only lacking “whiz-bang” UI candy in a (now) 263 KiB executable
@ 20 See #14 comment
@ 22…If you have to ask here for open source clients… You tried Transmission/Deluge .. use libtorrent forks
@ 23 Here here ;) RTFM
…
@ 40 amc sorry I didn’t see your response on page 2
@ 41 It’s java :/
@ 45 It’s java :/
@ 46 Get off it. Test it yourself or stifle, FUD is the language of http://mafiaa.org
@ 48 Not everyone uses their main computer for torrenting.

Azureus has a reputation of being powerful and complicated – and they can’t shake that image, because it’s true.

@ 4 All the major players support magnet: I think
@ 7 Why don’t you use labels? Search like iTunes is http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=3735
@ 14 They are the same program http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Azureus_2_and_Vuze#For_the_.22I_don.27t_like_Vuze.22_crowd
@ 17 Indeed I agree. uTorrent packs great efficiency for usage, only lacking “whiz-bang” UI candy in a (now) 263 KiB executable
@ 20 See #14 comment
@ 22…If you have to ask here for open source clients… You tried Transmission/Deluge .. use libtorrent forks
@ 23 Here here ;) RTFM
@ 40 amc sorry I didn’t see your response on page 2
@ 41 It’s java :/
@ 45 It’s java :/
@ 46 Get off it. Either test it yourself prove uTorrent is badware (someone will always believe you, but most people will prove you wrong with more proof) FUD is the language of http://mafiaa.org
@ 48 Not everyone uses their main computer for torrenting.

Given that I run Azureus in console mode on a server and “Vuze” is all about the client interface I couldn’t be that much interested anyway. What bothers me though is that Azureus was a resource hog already, especially memory wise, and it looks like they’re not going to improve on this matter. How anyway, it’s Java.

Either way, I’m not excited. First reason they’ll give me I’m gonna switch to something else.

As for the constant memory usage concerns… some of you need to get a computer from the 21st century, perhaps? Memory is made to be used, after all. No P2P program uses enough memory to trip up any contemporary computer.

uTorrent just isn’t an option for me, as I do not trust the closed-source nature of the application, especially given their parent company’s affiliations.

Been using the last version of Azureus 2 (2.5.0.4) since version 3 has nothing decent other than corporate filth.

FTW!

“Was using Azureus for a long time and like a lot of Azureus user got miffed when they started to cram Vuze onto us.

…

So I probably won’t be going be back to Vuze anytime soon as I don’t want to install Java to use it.”

So you don’t want to use Vuze because it needed Java, but you were happy to use Azureus even though it need Java?

@31
“Vuze v4.0.0.0 rc5 – 9,085,368kB”
9 gigabytes? I don’t think you mean that.

Anyway – just wanted to mention that the old Azureus interface is still there for those who want it, even in this release:
http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/The_Azureus_Experience

Sometimes I see peers that don’t connect & wonder if they have theirs off. As i run my clients with it on full.

Vuze is doing a balancing act.
Those that seek paid content (keeping isp honest ).
And the mainstream bt users.
It seems this is a hard act.
but kudos to az/vuze for doing so.

http://www.boatpride.com

You can easily use VLC for playback.

No contest.

I don’t know many people who don’t know how to use bittorrent. And not all of my friends are techno-geeks. The people who don’t know how to use bittorrent wouldn’t know out about the new vuze anyway, nor would they even want to download material in such a manner because of the legal implications. Of course there’s the new µTorrent for Mac coming out that has a similar search function, and XTorrent for Mac with it’s search function.

queuing 800 torrents to automatically seed was relatively easy once you read and understood the configuration page

then the vuze interface arrived, disaster, looks terrible and they lose their market share to uTorrent

now they try again to dumb down and win back the “n00b market”

@Azureus team, you guys forgot your core competancy, you forgot what made you great, you cannot be both the best AND the n00b client

your investors are banking on you as a content distribution platform, now a media player, omg you guys are trying to be all things to all men, big mistake

look at bittorrent.com and vuze.com and weep. those sites are confused

i still use Azureus in advanced old style gui. i am ashamed and as soon as uTorrent implements advanced seed queuing then i will be outta here