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By: Roze

Roze — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:52:12 +0000

@84 John
Actually, this guy didn’t release it first. He only translated it. Make sure your facts are correct next time.

Roze

By: john

john — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:13:47 +0000

Do the crime you do the time. I have no problem with people downloading a movie thats freely available with the click of a mouse. But if you’re going to be the guy who is the first one to release a movie on the internet then you need to understand it’s pretty illegal and you most likely will get jail time if caught.

By: Roze

Roze — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:26:05 +0000

@82 Anonymous
How about you’re an idiot. They hurt their own revenue stream by not translating it as quickly. Moreover, this guy didn’t do anything to “make it available to the Japanese” since it was already available – in English. Now try making some sense next time.

Roze

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:50:38 +0000

Serves the guy right.

Yeah, it might not be available in Japan, but it’s not as though it was never going to be available, and all he did was hurt the revenue stream of the release company by doing it.

I’m not so hard headed as to say “It doesn’t matter if it will never makes it to Japan(or the U.S. for some anime) it’s still wrong!”, obviously, if everyone knew it wasn’t going to get a Japanese release, then hell yeah, go nuts, spread that movie with your subs all over the place, you’ve got my support. You probably wouldn’t see action from the company either, because there’s not really any money involved.

But once he started circulating it, he became liable. Yes, the subs are his creative property, but beyond that, he’s still distributing copyrighted material, and that’s illegal.

By: www.10ch.org

www.10ch.org — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:32:29 +0000

@78 Bob
They do have the natural right to disseminate or not disseminate their own work as they wish, but not the natural right to tyrannize over what other people do with it once they have it, such as disseminate it themselves, or alter it, &c. Of course, I speak of natural rights, not legal rights, (and in this case, the legal rights are contrary to the natural rights, thus indicating that the law is itself immoral).

Roze

By: Bob

Bob — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:28:26 +0000

So some laws are tyrannical; therefore in this case, artists and craftsmen have no right to the dissemination of their work if that work is in any way digitized. Is this correct?

By: www.10ch.org

www.10ch.org — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:01:57 +0000

“Is it your contention that Intellectual Property law is immoral and that monetization of IP is unjust?”
No, just the Intellectual Property law (which, in fact does not exist, since intellectual property does not exist. There only exists copyright, trademarks, and patents, which are not even remotely the same thing). The monetization part is an unfortunate consequence of it – which can be reduced if the copyright law is changed. In all actuality, the immorality of these laws is quite obvious, taking into consideration the abuses of copyright going on right now – which, of course, is all of it. It is not reasonable for anyone to be sent to jail for this. It is not reasonable to send innocent people (like this person) to jail – in fact, it is immoral. This is an example of the abuse of copyright law – and that is that.

Roze