Comments on: What if book publishers started to sue libraries?

By: Ricje

Ricje — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:57:21 +0000

EBook is a growing craze and it is going to be throughout the world and so think everyone should benefit from it.Here I’m promoting a book named First lady president which is a fictional take on a US presidential election campaign featuring a female candidate . It is a story of how such a figure might emerge as the first ever serious female candidate in a U.S. presidential election, and what opposition — both culturally and politically — that she might encounter.

By: KsbjA

KsbjA — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:31:22 +0000

Funny. I’ve thought of this, libraries are really much like p2p.

By: Justin Smith

Justin Smith — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:45:27 +0000

In the early 1900′s, publishers tried to sue libraries out of existence (or get them to charge borrowers the full purchase price of a book and send the money to the publisher). The courts finally ruled that purchased books are the “property” of the purchaser and could be freely loaned out.

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By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 05:49:03 +0000

Thank You

By: Gino

Gino — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:39:44 +0000

In the European Union new copyright directives are effectively aimed at curtailing libraries :-(

By: Sukhdev Singh

Sukhdev Singh — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:18:39 +0000

Please remember – COPYRight Laws comes into play if “COPIES” are made. Libraries do not make copies.

By: Flypig

Flypig — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:58:21 +0000

Lol, I feel an urge to rush over and commit arson at the British Council Library. For fifteen years they have been leading me to a life of crime.

By: Sheila

Sheila — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:01:27 +0000

>> here in Australia libraries actually do pay a copyright fee to authors

Same here in the UK.

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JiggedyJoo » Blog Archive » Torrentfreak undo their good work — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:26:06 +0000

[...] The guys over at TorrentFreak (normally a good website, with some good views) have nuked any chance of them being seen as an unbiased view on the BitTorrent world with this post. Perhaps with a little more thought and research they could have avoided some choice comments such as: NAPFISK: Not entirely sure what your point is here. I sure love the irony in this, but the comparison with music sharing is of course faulty. Like Chris says, you only borrow the stuff for a limited amount of time. Also, libraries are subsidized for the amount of readers they have. Part of that money is transferred to the local copyright watchdog organizations. For CDs and DVDs you even pay a (ridiculously) small amount for lending. And copies of course aren’t free either , not even in libraries. Every copy made, generates a small fee for the authors. Have I now just ruined what still is a very witty and funny article, though? [...]

By: Biblia, the Warrior Librarian

Biblia, the Warrior Librarian — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:35 +0000

Well, I can’t speak about your part of the World, but here in Australia libraries actually do pay a copyright fee to authors, to compensate them from possible lost sales of their work(s) if they are available for ‘free’ borrowing from a library. This also covers a ‘fair dealing’ contingency in photocopying.

Where the whole system falls down somewhat (and NOT only in Australia) is the copyright collection agencies ‘skimming costs’ off the top of the copyright fees. A whole lot more sh*t is going to shortly hit the fan on this one …

Bibia
http://www.warriorlibrarian.com

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Medialoper » The Daily Loper - October 24, 2006 — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:51:24 +0000

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By: Yanna

Yanna — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:02:35 +0000

As far as I know Google Book Search only lets you read couple of lines or paragaphs from a book that is copyrighted. You can only read the full version of non-copyrighted books, something like “Rome and Juliet.” So I don’t see how Goole Book Search can be called the biggest library of them all.

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» What if book publishers started to sue libraries? — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:52:10 +0000

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By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:32:30 +0000

1. As Joe says, the first sale doctrine applies to libraries (as it does to you and me).
2. The United States is different from some other (European) countries that require a royalty to be paid to the author each time a book is checked out.
3. While I generally agree that current copyright law is advantageous to content creators (or, more properly, rights owners), it is not without its charitable exceptions (such as fair use, first sale doctrine, teaching, research, etc.). You should learn more about the law first and how the law works before suggesting that a lawsuit be brought. Your quibble should not be with the Courts; it should be with the Congress.

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Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:10:27 +0000

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Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:29:31 +0000

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By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:55:21 +0000

The first sale doctrine is what makes library operations legal:
http://www.aallnet.org/committee/copyright/pages/issues/firstsale.html

By: Joker

Joker — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:34:15 +0000

You don’t know what you are talking about.

By: jester

jester — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:10:01 +0000

Um, publishers have sued libraries. Repeatedly. The Supreme even had to rule against publishers to tried to “license” books instead of sell them way back in 1998. (Jewelers’ Mercantile Agency v. Jewelers’ Pub. Co., 155 Supreme Court for the Sate of New York. 241, 1898. The United States Supreme Court came to the same conclusion in a similar case, Bobbs-Merrill Co. v. Straus, in 1908.)

By: pedro

pedro — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:09:51 +0000

Authors don’t make money off of library copy machines, so anyone who copies a book at a library may pay for the copy, much in the same way a file-sharer pays for his Internet connection, but in neither case does the copyright owner get any money from it.

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By: Napfisk

Napfisk — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:02:15 +0000

Not entirely sure what your point is here. I sure love the irony in this, but the comparison with music sharing is of course faulty.

Like Chris says, you only borrow the stuff for a limited amount of time. Also, libraries are subsidized for the amount of readers they have. Part of that money is transferred to the local copyright watchdog organizations. For CDs and DVDs you even pay a (ridiculously) small amount for lending. And copies of course aren’t free either , not even in libraries. Every copy made, generates a small fee for the authors.

Have I now just ruined what still is a very witty and funny article, though?

Oh, and I would love to see an online type of library for music and film. Digital TV’s already on that, where you ‘hire’ a movie and get to watch it for a set period of time afterwards. It probably already exists online too, but I haven’t seen it yet.

Keep up this good stuff.

ndnl

By: Casey Kochmer

Casey Kochmer — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:02:11 +0000

As an independent author, I don’t think this will happen. The publishers while not exactly clean, they aren’t nearly as bad as the record industry.

The biggest problem is the publishers tend to be behind in the tech curve. So the real issue is they don’t understand Google Book Search. In time I would bet they embrace Google Book Search much like the library system: as another way to market and distribute books.

In the mean time one or two publishers are sure to sue. But the impact wont be big, and will just serve to generate more attention towards Google Book Search, which ironically will make Googles Book search more successful and in the end make sure all the publisher get on board.

Casey
A Personal Tao
http://www.personaltao.com

By: Chris Williams

Chris Williams — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:04:48 +0000

This will never happen and is a entirely different situation than downloading books\movies\music on the internet. Libraries dont give away books to any one who asks. They lend them for a set amount of time. This also happens with movies. (Blockbuster anyone)

By: SixDays http://sixdays.se

SixDays http://sixdays.se — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:52:44 +0000

Dude, you forgot scanners! copy machines are like the old bag! =)

By: Platypus

Platypus — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:36:34 +0000

I’ve got Star Wars e books and a shitload of audiobooks on my pc… :p

By: Effi

Effi — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:17:24 +0000

Heh. Don’t give them ideas! :P

By: Yatti

Yatti — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:13:17 +0000

Lol if this starts happening I would take a look at the MPAA\RIAA maybe they would be winning to most likely… Scary thoughts… I havent used google to look up books yet… I might though considering im back in school.. I wonder if they have the book im reading at the moment…