What.cd To Launch New BitTorrent Tracker Script
Written by Ben Jones on November 30, 2007What.cd, one of the private BitTorrent trackers that aims to be a replacement for OiNK, also has plans to replace the slightly outdated TBSource script. When ready, it will be released to the public under either a GPLv3 or AGPL license.
What.cd is riddling the BitTorrent community on its frontpage: “What begins with a G, ends with a E, and can run at 50 miles per hour?” Unless you’re a fan of Animal Planet, you’re going to wonder what’s gone on at what.cd. The answer is Gazelle, a reference to what.cd’s new Project Gazelle.
The project, so named according to one of the developers because “It’s sleek, fast, and generally awesome” (and ironically, commonly targeted by predators) aims to be a new tracker script that would make even high volume sites run smoothly. Currently, what.cd, like most others, is based around the ageing TBsource, a site template with a large number of holes, and little documentation.
Whilst some might think that it would be easier, and perhaps quicker, to update and close the holes in the existing code, the development team had other opinions. “You’d think so, but in the end, it would take 10 times the manpower, and much more time than it would take to rewrite it. The TBSource code is scary - there are no comments, things on one page can be implemented differently from those on another page.”
The overall aim is to produce a torrent site that will be faster for end users, easier to use for site administration, able to use optional modules, and allow a lot more users on the same amount of hardware as a TBsource system. As one developer explained “The ‘catch up’ feature on the forums, as found in TBsource, runs 2 queries per post. As we have it, that is over 80000 queries each time a user loads the page. Our sourcecode has this down to 2 queries”.
They are not alone in these attempts, back in late June the popular UK TV site UKNova also moved away from TBsource, also moving to a system based around XBTT. However, there are currently no plans for UKNova to make their system public as yet. Project Gazelle aims for a closed beta within the next 6 weeks, and will be implemented on what.cd when it is stable enough to do so. Eventually it will be released to the public, under either a GPLv3 or AGPL license. However, warned one of the development team, “some of our tools, such as cheater evasion, will not be included in the public version of the source, for obvious reasons.”
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Awesome! Though, I’m a waffle user myself, it’s always nice to see progress in the community. =)
I had OiNk, but now I can’t even find anyone with waffle or what to invite me. OiNk going down was the worst thing that’s happened in a long time.
wtf i dun hav a what.cd account i need one plz send to lol@mpaa.com im a lreally gud ^loader and stuf i had a tun of uploads prob teh best from oink
Any suggestions how to get an invite. I was on Oink and now I have no place to stay :*( Help me out :)
Sounds great and all…but what’s cheater evasion?
2, I feel you’re pain. I’m in the same boat. An OiNK user who had a 0.95 ratio I’m dying here.
On a side note if anyone has any invites too either waffles.fm or what.cd I would really appreciate an invite. nokry56 AT gmail DOT com
Time will tell if this really is a vast improvement. Hopefully what.cd cleared all the bugs. I’ll keep my fingers crossed on one hand. The other hand feeds me mouth with a delicious jellybaby!!
excuse my grammar up above. an all nighter for a big test killed my sense of how to write in english. thankfully it was a math test, not an english one…
I hope their word is bond. Otherwise ba..humbug to them.
Both OiNK going down and Demonoid going down was a devastating hit on the torrent side. But it is nice to see that many are working on improving the security holes. TPB with the P2P protocol, What.cd with their tracker system and with .
Invites?? Buhuhahahahahah…….ROFLMFAO
Its nice to see sites like this trying to revive the torrent world. Long live torrents!
the unfortunate thing is, both sites are suffering greatly from people uploading tons and not downloading so much. everybody wants to get their 5,000G buffer back before they chance downloading random torrents. it kind of reminds me of oink in mid ‘05.
plus, oink’s top 10 page was absolutely wonderful.
Oink’s top 10 page was wonderful, it’s too bad nothing has risen to rival it yet. Project Gazelle sounds intriguing, great if it works out. Maybe they’ll open up more invites so cast out Oink members like myself can get back in on the world of music Oink offered. Are What.cd and waffles.fm even allowing new members?
I was really hopeful that answering the what.cd riddle correctly would lead to a registration page as a reward.
If you want to trade, give or get some bittorent invites, check this site:
http://tracker-invites.org/index.php?referredby=1767
so they cant even secure the staff forums in Tbsource but they think they can code a tracker…?
The more trackers and sites they take down, the more and better they come up.
Retaliation against the Anti-P2P is easy, simply downloading and uploading is all that is needed.
You may think to yourself, your download/upload means nothing. It does on a large scale, you strengthen the entire bittorrent swarm by adding to a huge group of users, so huge it cannot be defeated.
What is cheater evasion? What make a cheater in this context?
Security through obscurity … sounds bad, really BAD!!
Cheater evasion is a way for them avoid ratio cheats on site.
Awww! nerds hording invites because the cool kids picked on them in highschool and now you are mad at the world…hahahahaa….let the typical comebacks fly!!!
Still some invites for what.cd left:
http://tracker-invites.org/index.php?referredby=1767
Hmm, no info on what language it’s in or platform portability. Hoping it doesn’t turn out to be some windows only .net monstrosity.
Invites are open @ what.cd
20000 slots open
irc://irc.what.cd/what.cd-invites
i must say i like the way what.cd is going
“It is mostly frontend work”
sylar from what.cd
so it looks like its nothing to be excited aobut
[quote comment="228122"]Invites are open @ what.cd
20000 slots open
irc://irc.what.cd/what.cd-invites
i must say i like the way what.cd is going[/quote]
lol thats horrable!! anyone from the riaa could just join that channel and get an invite? thats bad. and too many slots open. thats not very good
[quote comment="228056"]The more trackers and sites they take down, the more and better they come up.
Retaliation against the Anti-P2P is easy, simply downloading and uploading is all that is needed.
You may think to yourself, your download/upload means nothing. It does on a large scale, you strengthen the entire bittorrent swarm by adding to a huge group of users, so huge it cannot be defeated.[/quote]
Psst…Hey…Hee hee hee!
Wanna know the a way to help out sites like TPB for free? hee hee hee! Actually follow the ads! Yeah, that’s right, click on the ad! You can kill the window that pops up after, but I bet clicking on the ads makes money for TPB!
[quote comment="228006"]Time will tell if this really is a vast improvement. Hopefully what.cd cleared all the bugs. I’ll keep my fingers crossed on one hand. The other hand feeds me mouth with a delicious jellybaby!![/quote]
Tom Baker, I’m saying it now and I’ll say it again in the future - you are so cute! “me jellybaby / Yum Yum” - makes me wish I had a cat; roflmao Keep it up!
[quote comment="228030"]Oink’s top 10 page was wonderful, it’s too bad nothing has risen to rival it yet. Project Gazelle sounds intriguing, great if it works out. Maybe they’ll open up more invites so cast out Oink members like myself can get back in on the world of music Oink offered. Are What.cd and waffles.fm even allowing new members?
I was really hopeful that answering the what.cd riddle correctly would lead to a registration page as a reward.[/quote]
Hey, you know what would be a great idea? I think anyway; is if what and waffles started doing CUSTOM top 10 lists; like the recommendation system TPB is doing!
I mean, really, music source and music recommendations go hand in hand; you think its possible?
@25
If you’d rather use TBSource, go ahead ;)
@29
If you elaborate further, maybe…
pics or it didn’t happen
@31
Check out the what.cd or waffles.fm forums, there are pics of the sourcecode there.
need invite to what.cd
webplebw@gmail.com
[quote comment="228602"]need invite to what.cd
webplebe@gmail.com[/quote]
> However, there are currently no plans for UKNova to make their system public as yet.
There are plans… it’s just a while off yet!
Once the feature set is nailed down more we’ll be working on making the code a bit more generic and modularised, then releasing betas. Most likely under new-BSD-style licensing, and it’ll be as a forum package first and foremost, with a tracker add-on.
From our experience of using the code with XBTT I’d say it’s very much suitable for running larger trackers efficiently. It’s also more resilient against injection hacks and much easier to modify than tbsource… hell, it even has comments. ;-)
However. It’s written in Python, not PHP, and a lot of tracker admins aren’t going to be used to that.
A very lot of ^user from the world wired web was making some music for hi-fi speaker and ipod headphone inside the Oink. what with what.cd when not even no one can even get look inside to listen to music. Why not be like one day inside one month for half a day (12.5 hours) when keyboard can make login for ^user?
Can someone get me an invite to what.cd? My email is lifeishard1111@aim.com
Can I also get an invite to waffles.com? My email is lifeishard1111@aim.com Please? and Thank You!
my invite to code for what is : theb@denglish.ru
That’s a very good project and nice name as well. Too bad that what and waffles are so closed, I understand that they have a lot of ennemies but still.
If its mostly frontend work, Its not to much to get hyped up about, I would be happy to release the source of http://tracker.nxvr.org. However if they were to implement something thats big and cool, that would be interesting.
anyone know why what.cd has been down for the last day or so? is it these upgrades that are doing it?
Did anyone honestly think a giraffe can run 50 mph?
It’s hard to have faith in a project developed by a group of people who can’t even secure their own TBSource. It’s not like the security fixes are a secret either, the entire TBDev community knows about them and there are even forum threads in place to explain what needs to be done.
I take this ‘announcement’ with a grain of salt and am much more inclined to anticipate the release of Hydra instead.
if you’re referring to the early incidents on what.cd, you should remember they were “hacked” by someone who had root access on the server where the tracker was initially hosted.
hardly anything to do with “securing their own TBSource”
[quote comment="231101"]if you’re referring to the early incidents on what.cd, you should remember they were “hacked” by someone who had root access on the server where the tracker was initially hosted.
hardly anything to do with “securing their own TBSource”[/quote]
Those weren’t the only incidents. What.cd was littered with SQL injection vulnerabilities which were exploited. What you’re referring to is just one of the hacking incidents.
I miss Demonoid so much, they had everything and it was all safe and seeded. If anyone has an extra registration code for What.cd it would be much appreciated if you could send it to me at cjhines129@gmail.com
I was a Member of Oink for a LONG Time!! I am so sad its gone… I have so much Music to share with the World and I have no What.cd or Waffle Invite! Can someone Please hook me up with an Invite :) It is Christmas Time… I will sing carols upon request…… Aleialand@hotmail.com…….
Can someone invite me to what.cd i been using oink and demonoid ,,,but both of them is down Please HELP ME OUT guys mods or vip members I just do this for my kids so i don’t have to spend all this money for games and appz THANKS IN ADVANCE
MY email address is
beefix@gmail.com
FUCK YOUR INVITE TROLLING!
no good sites anymore? :( invite please…
firedfox@gmail.com
For some reason my what.cd won’t load and none of my torrents are seeding, does anybody know what might be going on? Could my ISP block the site?
Thanks
horrrible!!!!!!!!
please send invite to
POLARLCE@NETZERO.COM
THANKS!!!!!
got an invite to what.cd, then donated to the site via paypal,then the next day the account was disabled can anyone make sense of this??
If you receive an invite from anywhere aside from a what VIP or Admin then your account will be disabled. Not to they disabled 4000+ accounts for the new year and are really enforcing ratio and site user limits.
I think with the coming of gazelle experimenting as well as the new year they have been taking measures to improve the community at what.
Don’t expect to get traded or given a what invite through any forum or comment post.
The only way to get one is going to asdfghjkl (figure it out yourself)
Can’t wait to see this new scipt in action :]]
what.cd will never be the new oink anyway. go to IRC and you get interviewed by 10 year old girls who “think” they are audio experts but don’t have a clue. A site is about its menmbers and they are heading down the wrong road
Project Down!
lawl i got 3 what.cd invites, too bad i dont know any of oyu or i would give them out $
Now that Gazelle has launched, What.cd officially sucks. Everything is either down, broke, or just blows. Take the request system for example. To request, you have to take away an amount from your uploaded amount. How stupid is that?
ALL HAIL WAFFLES, THE TRUE HOME OF MUSIC.
This pretty much sums it up tbh:
http.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTpa9j60Npg
what can i say, the source code pwnz, but some things on the site are a bit odd and weird.
and about the ‘request’ feature:
yes, you lose uploadded gb’s but the person who fills the request gets part of that bounty, and the amount uploaded.
so there’s no ‘only’ bad thing.
diggdig21@gmail.com
If someone could sent me a what.cd invite I would appreciate it
If somebody could also send me a what.cd invite i would appreciate it very much
i have that fastest internet my isp can offer and i can upload large amounts of data.
my email is
lil_rascal_badass@hotmail.co.uk
please invite me
qmail.co.uk@gmail.com
What the hell is wrong with what.cd?
it keeps redirecting improperly for me. i can’t connect. all my torrents are saying tracker offline… timed out. Whoot?
Nevermind. all better now.
would anyone be so kind to give me a what.cd invite? i have tons and tons of great and rare music to offer. my email is dododiggitydo@yahoo.com
thanks
help me find an invite to what.cd. I what to release my proper flac rips and up gigs. sppxp76atg mai l [*] co m
any chance of a invite to what.cd please
megwan@live.co.uk
please invite me to what.cd
my email is leelinchin89@hotmail.com
i will upload whatever download i finish!!please…can someone plzz!!
Can someone please invite me to what.cd email address samandjoe10@hotmail.com, much appreciated
i need an account plz send me one at saulperez92@yahoo.com
Yo I need a “what” Account, i had a Nice ratio on Oink. and i understand there is like a test you guys like to put people through to get an account, well ill answer it if you want me to.
email.
The_toybox6767@yahoo.com
i need a what account aswell.
spensedog@hotmail.com
thx
Alllexxx
Looking for a what.cd Account as well. I have good ratio on Demonoid and had a nice one on Oink.
Please email Euphoria3@inbox.com
much thanks
I’d like an invite, please. My ratio on sites like demonoid.com holds around 2:1, and I can upload rare jewels like Don & Dewey’s “Jungle Hop” or old classics like Boulez conducting “Le Sacre Du Printemps” or Smithsonian Folkways “Anthology of America Folk Music.” My email address is: ryan.steitz@gmx.at
Thanks
Also, I share files using the FLAC format.
PS And, for what it’s worth, I found what.cd because I was looking for the latest James Blackshaw album.
Looking for an invite to what.cd - good ratio on others any help?
guess what - yet another hopeful looking for an invite to what.cd.
what do I have to offer? loads of 60s west coast rock music, loads of metal, folk, 70s rock etc. live recordings, along with nearly a couple of thousand albums, some never on CD, will happily take requests, I’m on dimeadozen, with a pretty good ratio there.
please?
cheers
Johnny
if you could get me an invite to what.cd i would be ever greatful. i have a good ratio.
if it makes any difference i stumbled upon it looking for wizardrock. =P
e-mail me at striking_saturn@hotmail.com
-Iulia
hello. Again, i’m someone looking for an invite to what.cd or waffles.fm! I have around 15,000 mp3s of 192kbps or greater, with pretty much all different varieties of genres. plus I have a good connection and upload at over 100k/sec.
Cheers
nutman
please invite me to what.cd
my email is beks_gl73@hotmail.com
i will upload whatever download i finish!!please…can someone plzz!!
please invite me to what.cd
my email is beka_gl73@hotmail.com
i will upload whatever download i finish!!please…can someone plzz!!
the first one is wrong e-mail sorryyy
invit to what.cd if possible i have a very good ratio on demonoid 4:1, i was looking for yeo and the fresh goods when i found what cd coldasdeath0@googlemail.com
invite to what.cd if possible please
ecortez69@hotmail.com
I’d like an invite to what.cd if possible too?
basket_case46@hotmail.com
Greets
I’d really like (No, I think I really NEED) an invite to what.cd
f_15_k@hotmail.com
Thnx a lot!
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