As good as anything broadcast on the gogglebox these days.

Roll on Part Three. =][/quote]

OMFG! I’m having severe chest pains after finding that Zarathustra and I finally agree on something!

Now, if he tells me that he actually donated, I’ll need the electroshock paddles.

Clear! :D[/quote]

Get the crash cart – STAT!

(I sure did =] )

I guess we can now summarize the two forms of distribution as:

Torrent your work (“new” media): Free download + publicity for doing something new + voluntary donations
Release a CD/DVD (“old” media): Free download anyway + legal threats + alienation of fans + reactance + donations only with high overhead (manufacturing, shipping, middlemen)

I know which way I’d like to release MY content…[/quote]

Its the wish of users. U must remember that this project is not commercially driven. So ur comments are highly unfortunate

The point is, people will give money more easily if they get something intangible from it. With RvB it’s a community thing, with LoNP it’s a bit of that, but also “what’s in the box?” which is an old game show staple.

OK, I’m going to go rest my cultural references now…

The vision is that fans support the artists they like by sending money straight to the artists. The payment gateways include, PayPal, credit cards and mobile phones.

The fans get a badge showing who they have supported. Artists use a widget straight in their website, myspace, reverbnation page to prompt their fans to support them.

We do not keep a cut. Instead we believe the artists who benefit from Karmafan can in turn support us the same way they are able to gather support from their fans.

The response from the artists has been positive and encouraging. Seems like artists are more than ready to adopt a system where fans directly support them. We already have around 300 artists using the Karmfan widget. Go to myspace.com/karmafan . All our friends there are using the Karmafan widget.

I haven’t used a bank in over 2 years… thoughs lieing, stealing, no good, husslers will never get another cent of my money.

This story has been submitted to Stirrdup. Your support can help it become hot….

http://ripple.sourceforge.net/

The account would be safe from identity theft AND we could donate anonymously… annonimously…anniminally… without anyone knowing who we are!

I have donated also an amount to the movie. Its the first movie in times that I pay for [ and its free ;) ], the great thing of this film his realizing how the world works. Just writing a paper on it. Will see how it goes. The film is a great inspiration for it, I am thinking that the Rabbit part of it has to be in it!

greetz

Come on, step up. Digg is corporate controlled, people are banned without reason.

We need participant controlled social media. And Pirate Bay / League of Noble peers can help.

We decide the issues.

It can start off with open source pligg.

Email them and help the cause.

No corporate control. Freedom.

We need our own social media.[/quote]

I agree with you 100%

Just imagine that for a minute.

I want to see this happen. I’m supporting this with $$ also.

I’d love to get more involved.

As good as anything broadcast on the gogglebox these days.

Roll on Part Three. =][/quote]

OMFG! I’m having severe chest pains after finding that Zarathustra and I finally agree on something!

Now, if he tells me that he actually donated, I’ll need the electroshock paddles.

Clear! :D

1. I had the money left over from Christmas that I had already decided was going to something.

2. I love ideas and their presentation was well done.

3. We need things that shake everything up every once in awhile. Change the way we look at things. We need creators. Yes, the same creators making music/books/art/movies.

I wonder if the new payment solution will be something like email money transfer (EMT). Send money to people with a simple email and security word.

http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_emt.php

Btw, let’s be sure that our quality doesn’t decrease with our expansion of quantity: it’s pay well. Good is an adjective. (Unless you were trying to emulate the Cowboy imitation by John Cleese at the end of “A Fish Called Wanda,” in which case you would be absolutely right.)

I suppose that is a possibility but I’m sure by then, long after the old regime of music is destroyed, we will have figured out a new revolutionary way to give artists a reasonable amount of money. Also don’t forget about merchendise and concerts!

If you chose to pay $0, you weren’t asked for CC details, so that doesn’t make sense.

No, you didn’t – if you put in 0.00 as your amount to pay it didn’t even ask for your information.

change and to end

http://www.ilovextra.com

Come on, step up. Digg is corporate controlled, people are banned without reason.

We need participant controlled social media. And Pirate Bay / League of Noble peers can help.

We decide the issues.

It can start off with open source pligg.

Email them and help the cause.

No corporate control. Freedom.

We need our own social media.

It’s great that people are supporting STF.

I speak English really good. :-/[/quote]

No shit…that was my first thought, also.

“When Pirates Pay, They Pay Real Goodly Like”….duuurrrrr….

I speak English really good. :-/

Really looking forward to see what kind of payment-method TPB will release! :)

As good as anything broadcast on the gogglebox these days.

Roll on Part Three. =]

I guess we can now summarize the two forms of distribution as:

Torrent your work (“new” media): Free download + publicity for doing something new + voluntary donations
Release a CD/DVD (“old” media): Free download anyway + legal threats + alienation of fans + reactance + donations only with high overhead (manufacturing, shipping, middlemen)

I know which way I’d like to release MY content…

why five? cause 15 is too much, and i really didn’t think they’d actually mail me any little trinkets anyway… the shipping alone would be more than 5 bucks anyhow….

also, that swarm was huge. i got my file super-quick BUT i didn’t feel like seeding at all, so i may have subconsciously guilted myself into chipping in the 5 bucks.

$5K for 150,000 downloads is a pittance. sure, some were generous, but most were complete scroooges.

peace!

Death to the leeching middle hands!
Hope the system is easy and will spawn more creators into being active in their own distribution and things by themselves instead of wasting income for others to do it ;)