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		<title>By: Help Steal This Film Win $30K&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</title>
		<link>/when-pirates-pay-they-pay-good-080105/#comment-360759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Help Steal This Film Win $30K&#160;at IDTorrent Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] League of Noble Peers, creators of Steal This Film, have been very upbeat about donations to the project and the possibilities of P2P for creativity. However, despite [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] League of Noble Peers, creators of Steal This Film, have been very upbeat about donations to the project and the possibilities of P2P for creativity. However, despite [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zarathustra</title>
		<link>/when-pirates-pay-they-pay-good-080105/#comment-350640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zarathustra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[quote comment=&quot;256379&quot;][quote comment=&quot;255945&quot;]Bloody brilliant documentary! Production values are a thousand times more professional than the first part.

As good as anything broadcast on the gogglebox these days.

Roll on Part Three. =][/quote]

OMFG! I&#039;m having severe chest pains after finding that Zarathustra and I finally agree on something!

Now, if he tells me that he actually donated, I&#039;ll need the electroshock paddles.

Clear! :D[/quote]

Get the crash cart - STAT!

(I sure did =] )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="256379"][quote comment="255945"]Bloody brilliant documentary! Production values are a thousand times more professional than the first part.</p>
<p>As good as anything broadcast on the gogglebox these days.</p>
<p>Roll on Part Three. =][/quote]</p>
<p>OMFG! I&#8217;m having severe chest pains after finding that Zarathustra and I finally agree on something!</p>
<p>Now, if he tells me that he actually donated, I&#8217;ll need the electroshock paddles.</p>
<p>Clear! :D[/quote]</p>
<p>Get the crash cart &#8211; STAT!</p>
<p>(I sure did =] )</p>
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		<title>By: Zwartbaard.nl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Help Steal This Film Win $30K</title>
		<link>/when-pirates-pay-they-pay-good-080105/#comment-350051</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zwartbaard.nl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Help Steal This Film Win $30K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] League of Noble Peers, creators of Steal This Film, have been very upbeat about donations to the project and the possibilities of P2P for creativity. However, despite [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Help Steal This Film Win $30K &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Help Steal This Film Win $30K &#124; TorrentFreak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] League of Noble Peers, creators of Steal This Film, have been very upbeat about donations to the project and the possibilities of P2P for creativity. However, despite [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: very</title>
		<link>/when-pirates-pay-they-pay-good-080105/#comment-263114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[very]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[quote comment=&quot;255942&quot;]Fascinating, especially the link to the reactance article. I&#039;ve observed the same effect myself, but didn&#039;t know it had a name.

I guess we can now summarize the two forms of distribution as:

Torrent your work (&quot;new&quot; media): Free download + publicity for doing something new + voluntary donations
Release a CD/DVD (&quot;old&quot; media): Free download anyway + legal threats + alienation of fans + reactance + donations only with high overhead (manufacturing, shipping, middlemen)

I know which way I&#039;d like to release MY content...[/quote]

Its the wish of users. U must remember that this project is not commercially driven. So ur comments are highly unfortunate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="255942"]Fascinating, especially the link to the reactance article. I&#8217;ve observed the same effect myself, but didn&#8217;t know it had a name.</p>
<p>I guess we can now summarize the two forms of distribution as:</p>
<p>Torrent your work (&#8220;new&#8221; media): Free download + publicity for doing something new + voluntary donations<br />
Release a CD/DVD (&#8220;old&#8221; media): Free download anyway + legal threats + alienation of fans + reactance + donations only with high overhead (manufacturing, shipping, middlemen)</p>
<p>I know which way I&#8217;d like to release MY content&#8230;[/quote]</p>
<p>Its the wish of users. U must remember that this project is not commercially driven. So ur comments are highly unfortunate</p>
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		<title>By: deemonoise.info&#187; Blog Archive</title>
		<link>/when-pirates-pay-they-pay-good-080105/#comment-262814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deemonoise.info&#187; Blog Archive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] BitTorrent Ð¾Ñ‚ÐºÑ€Ñ‹Ð²Ð°ÐµÑ‚ Ð²Ð¾Ð·Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶Ð½Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ð¸ Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð½ÐµÐ·Ð°Ð²Ð¸ÑÐ¸Ð¼Ð¾Ð³Ð¾ ÐºÐ¸Ð½ÐµÐ¼Ð°Ñ‚Ð¾Ð³Ñ€Ð°Ñ„Ð°. Ð¡Ñ‚Ð¾Ð¸Ð¼Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ð¸ Ð´Ð»Ñ Ñ€Ð°ÑÐ¿Ñ€Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ñ€Ð°Ð½ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ- Ð½ÐµÑ‚! ÐÐ°Ñ‡Ð¸Ð½Ð°ÑŽÑ‚ Ð¿Ð¾ÑÐ²Ð»ÑÑŽÑ‚ÑÑ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ðµ Ð±Ð¸Ð·Ð½ÐµÑ Ð¼Ð¾Ð´ÐµÐ»Ð¸. Ð‘ÑƒÐ´ÑƒÑ‰ÐµÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ð»ÑŒÐ¼Ð¼ÑÐ¹ÐºÐ¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð² Ð²Ñ‹Ð³Ð»ÑÐ´Ð¸Ñ‚ ÑÑ€ÐºÐ¾, Ð±ÑƒÐ´ÑƒÑ‰ÐµÐµ ÑÐ´ÐµÐ»Ð°Ð½Ð½Ð¾Ðµ, ÑÐ¾Ð·Ð´Ð°Ð½Ð½Ð¾Ðµ Ð¸Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ñ‚Ð°Ñ€Ð°Ð¼Ð¸, ÐºÐ¾Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ñ‹Ñ… Ð½ÐµÐºÐ¾Ð³Ð´Ð° Ð½Ð°Ð·Ñ‹Ð²Ð°Ð»Ð¸ Ð¿Ð¸Ñ€Ð°Ñ‚Ð°Ð¼Ð¸. via TorrentFreak [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BitTorrent Ð¾Ñ‚ÐºÑ€Ñ‹Ð²Ð°ÐµÑ‚ Ð²Ð¾Ð·Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶Ð½Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ð¸ Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð½ÐµÐ·Ð°Ð²Ð¸ÑÐ¸Ð¼Ð¾Ð³Ð¾ ÐºÐ¸Ð½ÐµÐ¼Ð°Ñ‚Ð¾Ð³Ñ€Ð°Ñ„Ð°. Ð¡Ñ‚Ð¾Ð¸Ð¼Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ð¸ Ð´Ð»Ñ Ñ€Ð°ÑÐ¿Ñ€Ð¾ÑÑ‚Ñ€Ð°Ð½ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ- Ð½ÐµÑ‚! ÐÐ°Ñ‡Ð¸Ð½Ð°ÑŽÑ‚ Ð¿Ð¾ÑÐ²Ð»ÑÑŽÑ‚ÑÑ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ðµ Ð±Ð¸Ð·Ð½ÐµÑ Ð¼Ð¾Ð´ÐµÐ»Ð¸. Ð‘ÑƒÐ´ÑƒÑ‰ÐµÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ð»ÑŒÐ¼Ð¼ÑÐ¹ÐºÐ¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð² Ð²Ñ‹Ð³Ð»ÑÐ´Ð¸Ñ‚ ÑÑ€ÐºÐ¾, Ð±ÑƒÐ´ÑƒÑ‰ÐµÐµ ÑÐ´ÐµÐ»Ð°Ð½Ð½Ð¾Ðµ, ÑÐ¾Ð·Ð´Ð°Ð½Ð½Ð¾Ðµ Ð¸Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ñ‚Ð°Ñ€Ð°Ð¼Ð¸, ÐºÐ¾Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ñ‹Ñ… Ð½ÐµÐºÐ¾Ð³Ð´Ð° Ð½Ð°Ð·Ñ‹Ð²Ð°Ð»Ð¸ Ð¿Ð¸Ñ€Ð°Ñ‚Ð°Ð¼Ð¸. via TorrentFreak [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[while i dont doubt many of the donations were from &quot;pirates&quot; im pretty sure like most things not ALL were. try to write more intelligent stories than this trash plz.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while i dont doubt many of the donations were from &#8220;pirates&#8221; im pretty sure like most things not ALL were. try to write more intelligent stories than this trash plz.</p>
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		<title>By: OPP</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OPP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I simply don&#039;t trust the internet with transactions. I mailed a donation to Canada for a Canadian forum becuas the only money I could lose that way would be in that envelope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply don&#8217;t trust the internet with transactions. I mailed a donation to Canada for a Canadian forum becuas the only money I could lose that way would be in that envelope.</p>
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		<title>By: ChurchHatesTucker</title>
		<link>/when-pirates-pay-they-pay-good-080105/#comment-257727</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChurchHatesTucker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;Red vs. Blue&quot; crew had this down years ago. Which isn&#039;t to take anything away from the LoNP, since most people STILL can&#039;t figure this one out. 

The point is, people will give money more easily if they get something intangible from it. With RvB it&#039;s a community thing, with LoNP it&#039;s a bit of that, but also &quot;what&#039;s in the box?&quot; which is an old game show staple.

OK, I&#039;m going to go rest my cultural references now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Red vs. Blue&#8221; crew had this down years ago. Which isn&#8217;t to take anything away from the LoNP, since most people STILL can&#8217;t figure this one out. </p>
<p>The point is, people will give money more easily if they get something intangible from it. With RvB it&#8217;s a community thing, with LoNP it&#8217;s a bit of that, but also &#8220;what&#8217;s in the box?&#8221; which is an old game show staple.</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m going to go rest my cultural references now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So if we assume that 100% of donators gave an average of $15 (actually, 90% gave more than $15, but the other 10% donated less), that would mean out of 150,000 downloads, less than 350 people donated.  That&#039;s 0.2%.    Does this mean 99.8% of everyone who downloaded the movie gave nothing?  If you divide total contributions by total downloads, it would be an average of 30 cents per download.  Does this even cover the cost of bandwidth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if we assume that 100% of donators gave an average of $15 (actually, 90% gave more than $15, but the other 10% donated less), that would mean out of 150,000 downloads, less than 350 people donated.  That&#8217;s 0.2%.    Does this mean 99.8% of everyone who downloaded the movie gave nothing?  If you divide total contributions by total downloads, it would be an average of 30 cents per download.  Does this even cover the cost of bandwidth?</p>
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