Comments on: Where’s the Warning Letter for the OiNK Uploaders? http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:58:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Fox http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-483469 Fox Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:16:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-483469 Most people are not on the creative side of consumerism, and so they don't understand that lots of people put everything they have into their art. Copyright infringement is stealing, and there's no way you can explain your way around it. I'm not a big name artist, and you've probably never seen one of my paintings or photographs, but it would rock the boat greatly for someone else to make money off my hard work even when I don't. Ultimately, I blame the ISPs who get much of their money from constant downloaders who would otherwise spend the monthly subscription money on CDs, DVDs, games, ect. Online IS the new medium, and as such, i would want my cut. Most people are not on the creative side of consumerism, and so they don’t understand that lots of people put everything they have into their art. Copyright infringement is stealing, and there’s no way you can explain your way around it. I’m not a big name artist, and you’ve probably never seen one of my paintings or photographs, but it would rock the boat greatly for someone else to make money off my hard work even when I don’t. Ultimately, I blame the ISPs who get much of their money from constant downloaders who would otherwise spend the monthly subscription money on CDs, DVDs, games, ect. Online IS the new medium, and as such, i would want my cut.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468693 Anonymous Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:05:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468693 i think this a step back wards, and it is to help companies like apple and the other who are starting to sell films in download format. they had the chance to end this when in the very begin, but instead they have tried take over p2p and use it for themselfs. it called greed i think this a step back wards, and it is to help companies like apple and the other who are starting to sell films in download format. they had the chance to end this when in the very begin, but instead they have tried take over p2p and use it for themselfs. it called greed

]]> By: kdsde http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468298 kdsde Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:39:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468298 (+) a while back a german court came to the conclusion that filesharing aka "copyrightinfringement" for non-commercial gain in a way we talk about here, is NOT the hard core criminal behaviour that the MAFIAA likes it to paint. The court held that the measures that german penal code/regulations allow for "real" criminal acts like snoop the conversation habbits of a suspect (i.e. IP address -> RL address matching actions of the prosecutors office) are NOT reasonable since doing copyrightinfringement like that is petty crime "Bagatellkriminalität" where the court that forbid the DA to get the address data compared it to the "stealing of a pack of chewing gum" which would also not warrent such harsh measures like the MAFIAA would like to see just so their obsolete business modell bets governmental protection from evolution and technological advancements. Thank god some german judges are smarter then US politicos like Leahy(1) and the usual suspects for being bribed that sponsored his bill too. (1)http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200807/072408a.html (+)
a while back a german court came to the conclusion that filesharing aka “copyrightinfringement” for non-commercial gain in a way we talk about here, is NOT the hard core criminal behaviour that the MAFIAA likes it to paint.
The court held that the measures that german penal code/regulations allow for “real” criminal acts like snoop the conversation habbits of a suspect (i.e. IP address -> RL address matching actions of the prosecutors office) are NOT reasonable since doing copyrightinfringement like that is petty crime “Bagatellkriminalität” where the court that forbid the DA to get the address data compared it to the “stealing of a pack of chewing gum” which would also not warrent such harsh measures like the MAFIAA would like to see just so their obsolete business modell bets governmental protection from evolution and technological advancements.
Thank god some german judges are smarter then US politicos like Leahy(1) and the usual suspects for being bribed that sponsored his bill too.

(1)http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200807/072408a.html

]]> By: kdsde http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468291 kdsde Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:28:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468291 Jul 29, 2008 at 09:28 by Dave Thanks for that clarification. While me already suspected something like that (+), it is important to point that fact out when reporting about the case! Some rookie filesharers might otherwise get worried to much that the MAFIAA might be already able to treat uploaders like GWB that puts people he does not liek with out trial and without evidence behind bars and throws away the key. MAFIAA does not have THAT power yet, and you people do not need to accept when they go for such a law like bush did. The radical islamists might not like most of you radical christians, but they will not bomb you jsut becuase you infringe copyrights on shitty product from MAFIAA! Jul 29, 2008 at 09:28 by Dave

Thanks for that clarification.
While me already suspected something like that (+), it is important to point that fact out when reporting about the case!

Some rookie filesharers might otherwise get worried to much that the MAFIAA might be already able to treat uploaders like GWB that puts people he does not liek with out trial and without evidence behind bars and throws away the key.
MAFIAA does not have THAT power yet, and you people do not need to accept when they go for such a law like bush did. The radical islamists might not like most of you radical christians, but they will not bomb you jsut becuase you infringe copyrights on shitty product from MAFIAA!

]]> By: mericunt http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468286 mericunt Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:14:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468286 lmfao poor alan gets bail extended again and what happens here? oh yes the americunts decide they are now better off than us hahahaahahahahaaa.. get a life you sad sad gits. whats this got to do with the war apart from you fooked up and now as usual try to send the focus to others !!! lmfao poor alan gets bail extended again and what happens here?

oh yes the americunts decide they are now better off than us hahahaahahahahaaa.. get a life you sad sad gits.

whats this got to do with the war apart from you fooked up and now as usual try to send the focus to others !!!

]]> By: Je http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468191 Je Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:38:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468191 Mr. Uploader does does the glove fit? :P Mr. Uploader does does the glove fit? :P

]]> By: Dave http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468186 Dave Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:28:48 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468186 Nobody to do with this case is in Jail. They are all on Bail. When the Police extend Bail they have to turn up at the Station with their Brief and sign a bit of Paper extending the Bail and any conditions attached to it. They can get on with their lives, Work, play etc..... It's just a bit of an inconvenience. It does seem like the Police are struggling on this one or they are waiting for 1 piece of evidence that is gonna substantiate the prosecution. I suspect it's NOT the Latter....... Nobody to do with this case is in Jail. They are all on Bail. When the Police extend Bail they have to turn up at the Station with their Brief and sign a bit of Paper extending the Bail and any conditions attached to it. They can get on with their lives, Work, play etc…..

It’s just a bit of an inconvenience. It does seem like the Police are struggling on this one or they are waiting for 1 piece of evidence that is gonna substantiate the prosecution. I suspect it’s NOT the Latter…….

]]> By: AHorribleMan http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468163 AHorribleMan Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:01:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468163 mr roboto sucks cock mr roboto sucks cock

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468108 Anonymous Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:43:00 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468108 the police and recording industry will never be able to mount a case that will result in a punishment that will serve as an example to the masses. they're holding these blokes in hopes of doing so but just by the nature of bit torrent file sharing, they don't have a chance. if they want to hold these guys indefinitely, they should have a better reason for doing so. it's not like they did some extreme act of terrorism or anything (hardy har har to "y'all") the basic fact is that what they were doing represents a change in the industry that's been a long time coming and to date (i.e. post raid on oink) the industry has taken awkward and reluctant, but clear steps towards embracing this type of file sharing as a marketable distribution model. they should just release them. this is just silly the police and recording industry will never be able to mount a case that will result in a punishment that will serve as an example to the masses. they’re holding these blokes in hopes of doing so but just by the nature of bit torrent file sharing, they don’t have a chance.

if they want to hold these guys indefinitely, they should have a better reason for doing so. it’s not like they did some extreme act of terrorism or anything (hardy har har to “y’all”)

the basic fact is that what they were doing represents a change in the industry that’s been a long time coming and to date (i.e. post raid on oink) the industry has taken awkward and reluctant, but clear steps towards embracing this type of file sharing as a marketable distribution model.

they should just release them. this is just silly

]]> By: kdsde http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468019 kdsde Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:21:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468019 @enigmax (or any brit here with knowledge about the aplicable law): do I get it right that Alan and the other 6 are are not currently in jail waiting for the procecutor to decide if he will ask a court to do a trial agaisnt them? In german that would be called "Untersuchungshaft" if they were held in custody till the trial. They are free right now, and "just" have to report to the police regularily so that they not run away to cuba or something, aren't they? And what does the british law say for how often the police can extend that procedure respectively how long can the prosecution wait till they either need to go before a Judge with this shit or have to drop the charges against the accused? @enigmax (or any brit here with knowledge about the aplicable law):

do I get it right that Alan and the other 6 are are not currently in jail waiting for the procecutor to decide if he will ask a court to do a trial agaisnt them?
In german that would be called “Untersuchungshaft” if they were held in custody till the trial.

They are free right now, and “just” have to report to the police regularily so that they not run away to cuba or something, aren’t they?
And what does the british law say for how often the police can extend that procedure respectively how long can the prosecution wait till they either need to go before a Judge with this shit or have to drop the charges against the accused?

]]> By: Spotty http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-468004 Spotty Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:10:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-468004 Britain, Australia, Sweden do whatever the US Government tells it to do, which in turn does what US Companies tell them to do. Look at Senator Rockefeller recently - took money from telecom companies then voted on a bill which gave them retrospective immunity. The whole thing is a huge sham, and more ironic when you consider FOX News Limited are routinely stealing IP off little people by running photo competitions where the competitors (not just the winners) lose their copyrights. Look at this case: An Aussie who had never been to the US picked up by zealous Australian Police eager to earn points with their US counterparts, shipped off and jailed for piracy (he never made a cent). Shame on them. Australian Citizenship is worth jack sh1t. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html?page=fullpage Britain, Australia, Sweden do whatever the US Government tells it to do, which in turn does what US Companies tell them to do. Look at Senator Rockefeller recently – took money from telecom companies then voted on a bill which gave them retrospective immunity. The whole thing is a huge sham, and more ironic when you consider FOX News Limited are routinely stealing IP off little people by running photo competitions where the competitors (not just the winners) lose their copyrights.

Look at this case: An Aussie who had never been to the US picked up by zealous Australian Police eager to earn points with their US counterparts, shipped off and jailed for piracy (he never made a cent). Shame on them. Australian Citizenship is worth jack sh1t.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html?page=fullpage

]]> By: NastyBedazzler http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467967 NastyBedazzler Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:54:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467967 I didn't read the other responses but this was a really good article. Good job TorrentFreak! I didn’t read the other responses but this was a really good article. Good job TorrentFreak!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467919 Anonymous Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:47:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467919 They deserve jail for what they have done! How dare they... C... C... Copy... Something!!! Copying something is the exact same as taking something! There is no difference at all, they are 100% the exact same thing. They deserve jail for what they have done! How dare they… C… C… Copy… Something!!! Copying something is the exact same as taking something! There is no difference at all, they are 100% the exact same thing.

]]> By: zarathustra http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467869 zarathustra Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:17:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467869 It's obvious, with all of this time the pigs had to collate data & charge the guys, & not a peep from the CPS, that the case will be dropped. Oink arrestees FTepicW!!!1onetwo! It’s obvious, with all of this time the pigs had to collate data & charge the guys, & not a peep from the CPS, that the case will be dropped.

Oink arrestees FTepicW!!!1onetwo!

]]> By: oneplusone http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467853 oneplusone Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:59:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467853 Habeus corpus already. I don't know Brit law from a hole in the wall, but if your system does this to people merely 'accused' of crimes, you got WAAAYYY bigger problems, folx. Like a dysfucntional legal system.... Habeus corpus already. I don’t know Brit law from a hole in the wall, but if your system does this to people merely ‘accused’ of crimes, you got WAAAYYY bigger problems, folx. Like a dysfucntional legal system….

]]> By: Rekrul http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467803 Rekrul Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:17:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467803 The article has it backwards; The BPI doesn't want to treat the OiNK users like everyone else, they want everyone else accused of file sharing to be treated like the OiNK users. The article has it backwards; The BPI doesn’t want to treat the OiNK users like everyone else, they want everyone else accused of file sharing to be treated like the OiNK users.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467782 Anonymous Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:44:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467782 So, are at a police state yet or not? How much worse can it get over there? So, are at a police state yet or not? How much worse can it get over there?

]]> By: People > System http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467781 People > System Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:43:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467781 It's a bit like Iraq. Storm in there to destroy the system, then when the dust settles just try to come away from it looking like what you did was right. I'm sure they'll think of something. It’s a bit like Iraq. Storm in there to destroy the system, then when the dust settles just try to come away from it looking like what you did was right.

I’m sure they’ll think of something.

]]> By: yanksuck247 http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467762 yanksuck247 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:09:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467762 your a mug Mr Roboto! your a mug Mr Roboto!

]]> By: Destruction http://torrentfreak.com/wheres-the-warning-letter-for-the-oink-uploaders-080728/#comment-467739 Destruction Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:53:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=3286#comment-467739 Violence is needed to free him, start hurting people responsible for this, thats the only message they will understand. People need to learn that when you do stupid shit, you get hurt. Thats how people stay in there place. When you take away consequences.. you end up with shit like this, people walking all over him and he can do nothing about it. Violence is needed to free him, start hurting people responsible for this, thats the only message they will understand.

People need to learn that when you do stupid shit, you get hurt. Thats how people stay in there place. When you take away consequences.. you end up with shit like this, people walking all over him and he can do nothing about it.

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