Comments on: Where’s the Warning Letter for the OiNK Uploaders?

By: Fox

Fox — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:16:18 +0000

Most people are not on the creative side of consumerism, and so they don’t understand that lots of people put everything they have into their art. Copyright infringement is stealing, and there’s no way you can explain your way around it. I’m not a big name artist, and you’ve probably never seen one of my paintings or photographs, but it would rock the boat greatly for someone else to make money off my hard work even when I don’t. Ultimately, I blame the ISPs who get much of their money from constant downloaders who would otherwise spend the monthly subscription money on CDs, DVDs, games, ect. Online IS the new medium, and as such, i would want my cut.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:05:49 +0000

i think this a step back wards, and it is to help companies like apple and the other who are starting to sell films in download format. they had the chance to end this when in the very begin, but instead they have tried take over p2p and use it for themselfs. it called greed

By: kdsde

kdsde — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:39:18 +0000

(+)
a while back a german court came to the conclusion that filesharing aka “copyrightinfringement” for non-commercial gain in a way we talk about here, is NOT the hard core criminal behaviour that the MAFIAA likes it to paint.
The court held that the measures that german penal code/regulations allow for “real” criminal acts like snoop the conversation habbits of a suspect (i.e. IP address -> RL address matching actions of the prosecutors office) are NOT reasonable since doing copyrightinfringement like that is petty crime “BagatellkriminalitÃ¤t” where the court that forbid the DA to get the address data compared it to the “stealing of a pack of chewing gum” which would also not warrent such harsh measures like the MAFIAA would like to see just so their obsolete business modell bets governmental protection from evolution and technological advancements.
Thank god some german judges are smarter then US politicos like Leahy(1) and the usual suspects for being bribed that sponsored his bill too.

(1)http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200807/072408a.html

By: kdsde

kdsde — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:28:05 +0000

Jul 29, 2008 at 09:28 by Dave

Thanks for that clarification.
While me already suspected something like that (+), it is important to point that fact out when reporting about the case!

Some rookie filesharers might otherwise get worried to much that the MAFIAA might be already able to treat uploaders like GWB that puts people he does not liek with out trial and without evidence behind bars and throws away the key.
MAFIAA does not have THAT power yet, and you people do not need to accept when they go for such a law like bush did. The radical islamists might not like most of you radical christians, but they will not bomb you jsut becuase you infringe copyrights on shitty product from MAFIAA!

By: mericunt

mericunt — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:14:07 +0000

lmfao poor alan gets bail extended again and what happens here?

oh yes the americunts decide they are now better off than us hahahaahahahahaaa.. get a life you sad sad gits.

whats this got to do with the war apart from you fooked up and now as usual try to send the focus to others !!!

By: Je

Je — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:38:22 +0000

Mr. Uploader does does the glove fit? :P

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:28:48 +0000

Nobody to do with this case is in Jail. They are all on Bail. When the Police extend Bail they have to turn up at the Station with their Brief and sign a bit of Paper extending the Bail and any conditions attached to it. They can get on with their lives, Work, play etc…..

It’s just a bit of an inconvenience. It does seem like the Police are struggling on this one or they are waiting for 1 piece of evidence that is gonna substantiate the prosecution. I suspect it’s NOT the Latter…….

By: AHorribleMan

AHorribleMan — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:01:28 +0000

mr roboto sucks cock

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:43:00 +0000

the police and recording industry will never be able to mount a case that will result in a punishment that will serve as an example to the masses. they’re holding these blokes in hopes of doing so but just by the nature of bit torrent file sharing, they don’t have a chance.

if they want to hold these guys indefinitely, they should have a better reason for doing so. it’s not like they did some extreme act of terrorism or anything (hardy har har to “y’all”)

the basic fact is that what they were doing represents a change in the industry that’s been a long time coming and to date (i.e. post raid on oink) the industry has taken awkward and reluctant, but clear steps towards embracing this type of file sharing as a marketable distribution model.

they should just release them. this is just silly

By: kdsde

kdsde — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:21:46 +0000

@enigmax (or any brit here with knowledge about the aplicable law):

do I get it right that Alan and the other 6 are are not currently in jail waiting for the procecutor to decide if he will ask a court to do a trial agaisnt them?
In german that would be called “Untersuchungshaft” if they were held in custody till the trial.

They are free right now, and “just” have to report to the police regularily so that they not run away to cuba or something, aren’t they?
And what does the british law say for how often the police can extend that procedure respectively how long can the prosecution wait till they either need to go before a Judge with this shit or have to drop the charges against the accused?