http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/artikel/878/call-to-the-international-media-expose-this.html

In short, the highest boss in the justice department is a known child-rapist, and is getting blackmailed with that fact.

“Just let the entertainment industry role over and die.”
Wow, this is exactly why piracy needs to be stopped. Pirates only care about themselves. They think the world revolves around them and that the whole world is there just to play along with their self satisfied, lazy ego.

@49: Open your eyes
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1027-996205.html

QUOTE: In 2004 there were an estimated 70 million people participating in online file sharing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_file_sharing

stick that under ur hat ;)

i read between 20 and 60 million in the US alone ,,, google it

http://www.overclockers.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4388:riaaspoof&catid=53:editorials&Itemid=4259

There is a lot of studies saying exactly the contrary that or don’t have an impact at all relevant or it spawn new commerce and more revenues for the economy.

Besides that the “fair use” crowd bring more revenue than the MAFIAA could ever put on the table (45 trillion dollars)

“REVENUE
In 2006, fair use industries generated revenue of $4.5 trillion, a 31
percent increase over 2002 revenue of $3.5 trillion. In percentage
terms, the most significant growth occurred in electronic shopping,
audio and video equipment manufacturing, Internet publishing and
broadcasting, Internet service providers and web search portals, and
other information services.”

The CCIA study:
http://www.ccianet.org/artmanager/uploads/1/FairUseStudy-Sep12.pdf

Just let the entertainment industry role over and die.

It’s not a question of if but when they are going for others.

And don’t expect the U.S. government to change its ways if nothing Obama loves the RIAA as he appointed 5 lawyers of the RIAA and didn’t let anybody see the ACTA thingy because it’s a matter of national security.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/obama-declares/

Canada is one of our closest neighbors, and I doubt that they openly condone violating American copyrights.

Canada has copyright laws too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_copyright_law#Subsistence_of_copyright

The situation with that only applies to music. Movies, games, etc. are still illegal. You took that out of context
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada

@34 : Piracy may be costing the industry a ton of money, but it’s definitely not “hundreds of millions of people.”

“And the facts are that you need to pay a premium of around 5 euros basic to get access.”

You clearly don’t even know what it is. It’s free to sign up, as a forum. You can donate to remove the ads but it’s not needed at all. Idiot ontmaskeerd? Zeker.

So in 5 times and in all I ended up in the same IP I will try tomorrow and see if it changes but I doubt.

And I tested with the IP from the torrentfreak that I found on whois to see if I could access it without DNS and no love.

http://208.100.56.138/

OpenDNS I tried already.Doesn’t work either.

And when I try a traceroute it goes out but never returns LoL

The ping command times out too.

If you are in Japan never use Plala.

I used to go shopping for music and videos but those guys started to annoy me with this kind of crapoula.
Close all avenues so the people are forced to buy first and decide latter if it will keep it or not LoL

I will never ever give them another penny if can get away with it.

My ISP blocks torrentfreak and I’m forced to use a proxy to read stuff here.

Your both wrong. I live there. The government has openly stated (TF actually covered it as well) That commercial downloading for personal use is OK, but uploading anything is against the law. BUT they dont have the time or resources to bother going after people for something so stupid and petty.

They have real crime to solve. Not breaking down doors looking for some 14 yr old girl downloading songs on her moms laptop.

ie: Common sense prevails in Canada. Thus far.

Downloading for personal reasons is perfectly legal on those jurisdictions.

that would be hundreds of millions of pirates, and we grow everyday!!

“If I’m not mistaken, its the client that requires the subscription, not usenet itself – i’m probably wrong about that.”

There are *MANY* Usenet client programs. Some are optimized for reading text groups while some are designed to make binary downloading as easy as possible. Some of them are free and some of them are shareware. Obviously you need to pay for the shareware ones, but it’s not exactly a subscription. Some NZB sites (think of them like torrent sites) do charge a subscription fee, but many are free and being able to download from Usenet doesn’t depend on using an NZB site, free or pay. They just make it more convenient.

As far as Usenet itself goes, whether you need to pay a fee depends on your ISP. Once upon a time, nearly every ISP offered Usenet access. This varied from “very good” to “what a joke”. Running a good news server requires *TONS* of storage space, on the order of hundreds of terabytes, not to mention time and money. Many ISPs outsourced to professional Usenet providers, but many have now decided that it’s not worth the cost. If your ISP doesn’t provide Usenet access or you want better service (fewer missing parts, longer retention), then yes, you need to pay for an account with a premium Usenet provider.

You can subscribe to any Usenet provider you want, use any client you want and search for NZB files (or not) on any NZB site you want.

Re: #16, Rogue

“I have never used UseNet or FTD so I can’t comment on their activities. Still, it’s refreshing to see something like this. We’ll see what happens.”

As I understand it, what FTD did was similar to verifying torrents and weeding out the fakes or bad copies to make it easier to find what you wanted. They didn’t host the content themselves, nor did they provide actual Usenet access. They simply pointed out which posts were the good ones.

Re: #19, wonderwhy-er;

“Never used Usenet… But went and read about it at Wiki… Seems to be a lot better system then torrents in sense of anonymity. But I wait for torrent like technology(high swarm speeds) with usenet like servers built in in to client + alike anonymity features so that you do not know what traffic goes trough you and what information is stored in HDD segment you shared for the network. Pretty shore such algorithms/protocols are possible and wonder when they will come :)”

You didn’t read closely enough. :)

Usenet isn’t an automatic two-way medium like BitTorrent. You either upload or you download, you don’t do both, unless you choose to. You can download all day long and you’ll never upload a single byte of information to the server unless you specifically choose to do so. Moreover, you CAN’T just choose to share what you’re downloading. Uploading/posting to Usenet requires dedicated posting software. You can’t just check a box that says “Share what I download”. In fact, doing so would be pointless. There’s already a copy of the files on the server and anyone with Usenet access is free to download them, the same as you.

As for downloading being anonymous, most Usenet providers specifically state that they don’t keep logs of WHAT you download, only how much, for billing purposes. Uploaders are at risk, but from what I’ve seen, the flow of movies, TV shows and music on Usenet doesn’t seem to be slowing down.

One person did try to create a P2P-like system for distributing Usenet posts, but it didn’t do that well. Why rely on others to keep what you’re looking for online when you can just connect to the server and download it as fast as your connection will allow?

But there are others that are entirely free and also outright Usenet search engines (like binsearch.info) that don’t charge.

Newzbin, incidentally, is involved in a legal fight with another of the anti-piracy companies, MPA (Motion Picture Association). They’ve been forced to pull some reports from the site (but which can still be accessed if the user switches to a different format.)

The anti-piracy companies think that they can do what they want and always get their way; it’s about time someone from the pro-p2p side
fought back. Though Usenet is not p2p, the MAFIAA still attacks it just as much as they do with torrent sites.

- So did The Pirate Bay.

Scene from Pulp Fiction just flashed in front of my eyes LoL

@18-o:
yes it does yes it does yes it does yes it does (can’t hear ya) ;)
Fingers crossed, Brein should’ve been bitchslapped about 5 years ago.

What if all of this is just a step stone to create precedents so the industry can have leverage to go after bigger fish like youtube and the like.

It’s good that FTD went on the offensive here, but saying you have the law on your side, when that doesn’t actually mean anything really?
The courts are way too corrupt, as we’ve all seen.

As for FTD… They shore made an interesting move by reducing time industry representatives have to investigate and probably apply some pressure to authorities.

Back on topic:I still don’t like the removal of the NZB-button,it looks like FTD has been doing something illegal for all those years,I hope for them it doesn’t backfire on them.

10 Kudos for bitch-slappin’ Tim Kuik,Heck, let’s make it 20.

Cheers,

-the Queef-

Can anyone clarify that? If its true, it could be used as a bludgeon against FTD – a ‘subscription’ service coupled with possible piracy is roughly equivalent to a death sentence in any court room – its paying for illegal material, which no matter how minor could snowball and fuck them up.

Far as i’m concerned Usenet can be the first one to burn and no ones going to care when its the P2L (pay to leech) foundation thats going to be going up in flames.

[I guess that goes with mininova too .. not sure why they cooperated before any trial]

About time these sites stood there ground – if not because the chances of winning are better – but because it’s a great way to advertise! :D

If they loose they loose, if they wait it out they would still loose – so might as well get those ad clicks in whilst you can! :D

I’ll eat my words if they win the case though – Usenet has a lot more money that a non-profit tracker.
This should be interesting…