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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/why-usenet-community-ftd-went-after-brein-090520/#comment-563787</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 02:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the public clearly believes FTD is gonna win this case. So far 93%. See this survey: http://twtpoll.com/jxv8ub</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the public clearly believes FTD is gonna win this case. So far 93%. See this survey: <a href="http://twtpoll.com/jxv8ub" rel="nofollow">http://twtpoll.com/jxv8ub</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joris D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joris D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in case anyone is wondering how corrupt the dutch legal system really is:

http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/artikel/878/call-to-the-international-media-expose-this.html

In short, the highest boss in the justice department is a known child-rapist, and is getting blackmailed with that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in case anyone is wondering how corrupt the dutch legal system really is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/artikel/878/call-to-the-international-media-expose-this.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/artikel/878/call-to-the-international-media-expose-this.html</a></p>
<p>In short, the highest boss in the justice department is a known child-rapist, and is getting blackmailed with that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: yermom</title>
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		<dc:creator>yermom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@52, blow it out yer ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@52, blow it out yer ass.</p>
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		<title>By: neostyles</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/why-usenet-community-ftd-went-after-brein-090520/#comment-563324</link>
		<dc:creator>neostyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 03:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO... If anything that proves how serious the issue is and what kind of threat it poses to the industry&#039;s financial interests.

&quot;Just let the entertainment industry role over and die.&quot;
Wow, this is exactly why piracy needs to be stopped.  Pirates only care about themselves.  They think the world revolves around them and that the whole world is there just to play along with their self satisfied, lazy ego.


@49: Open your eyes
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1027-996205.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO&#8230; If anything that proves how serious the issue is and what kind of threat it poses to the industry&#8217;s financial interests.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just let the entertainment industry role over and die.&#8221;<br />
Wow, this is exactly why piracy needs to be stopped.  Pirates only care about themselves.  They think the world revolves around them and that the whole world is there just to play along with their self satisfied, lazy ego.</p>
<p>@49: Open your eyes<br />
<a href="http://news.cnet.com/2100-1027-996205.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/2100-1027-996205.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cujothemadog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/why-usenet-community-ftd-went-after-brein-090520/#comment-563074</link>
		<dc:creator>Cujothemadog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here u go neostyles wiki master

QUOTE: In 2004 there were an estimated 70 million people participating in online file sharing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_file_sharing

stick that under ur hat   ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here u go neostyles wiki master</p>
<p>QUOTE: In 2004 there were an estimated 70 million people participating in online file sharing</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_file_sharing" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_file_sharing</a></p>
<p>stick that under ur hat   ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Cujothemadog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujothemadog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ neostyles

i read between 20 and 60 million in the US alone  ,,,  google it

http://www.overclockers.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=4388:riaaspoof&amp;catid=53:editorials&amp;Itemid=4259</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ neostyles</p>
<p>i read between 20 and 60 million in the US alone  ,,,  google it</p>
<p><a href="http://www.overclockers.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=4388:riaaspoof&amp;catid=53:editorials&amp;Itemid=4259" rel="nofollow">http://www.overclockers.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=4388:riaaspoof&amp;catid=53:editorials&amp;Itemid=4259</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/why-usenet-community-ftd-went-after-brein-090520/#comment-563024</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t see the negative impact of filesharing on the industry.

There is a lot of studies saying exactly the contrary that or don&#039;t have an impact at all relevant or it spawn new commerce and more revenues for the economy.

Besides that the &quot;fair use&quot; crowd bring more revenue than the MAFIAA could ever put on the table (45 trillion dollars)

&quot;REVENUE
In 2006, fair use industries generated revenue of $4.5 trillion, a 31
percent increase over 2002 revenue of $3.5 trillion. In percentage
terms, the most significant growth occurred in electronic shopping,
audio and video equipment manufacturing, Internet publishing and
broadcasting, Internet service providers and web search portals, and
other information services.&quot;

The CCIA study:
http://www.ccianet.org/artmanager/uploads/1/FairUseStudy-Sep12.pdf

Just let the entertainment industry role over and die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t see the negative impact of filesharing on the industry.</p>
<p>There is a lot of studies saying exactly the contrary that or don&#8217;t have an impact at all relevant or it spawn new commerce and more revenues for the economy.</p>
<p>Besides that the &#8220;fair use&#8221; crowd bring more revenue than the MAFIAA could ever put on the table (45 trillion dollars)</p>
<p>&#8220;REVENUE<br />
In 2006, fair use industries generated revenue of $4.5 trillion, a 31<br />
percent increase over 2002 revenue of $3.5 trillion. In percentage<br />
terms, the most significant growth occurred in electronic shopping,<br />
audio and video equipment manufacturing, Internet publishing and<br />
broadcasting, Internet service providers and web search portals, and<br />
other information services.&#8221;</p>
<p>The CCIA study:<br />
<a href="http://www.ccianet.org/artmanager/uploads/1/FairUseStudy-Sep12.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccianet.org/artmanager/uploads/1/FairUseStudy-Sep12.pdf</a></p>
<p>Just let the entertainment industry role over and die.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2007 the RIAA sued Usenet.com.

It&#039;s not a question of if but when they are going for others.

And don&#039;t expect the U.S. government to change its ways if nothing Obama loves the RIAA as he appointed 5 lawyers of the RIAA and didn&#039;t let anybody see the ACTA thingy because it&#039;s a matter of national security.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/obama-declares/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007 the RIAA sued Usenet.com.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a question of if but when they are going for others.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t expect the U.S. government to change its ways if nothing Obama loves the RIAA as he appointed 5 lawyers of the RIAA and didn&#8217;t let anybody see the ACTA thingy because it&#8217;s a matter of national security.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/obama-declares/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/obama-declares/</a></p>
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		<title>By: neostyles</title>
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		<dc:creator>neostyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@37 : You are very wrong. It seems that you aren&#039;t aware of the sheer scale of piracy.  Piracy is nothing short of an epidemic.  It&#039;s not just a few songs.  FTD taps into usenet, which is quickly gaining popularity.  If you think it&#039;s &quot;just a few songs, you are misleading yourself.&quot;  It&#039;s movies, games, apps, etc.

Canada is one of our closest neighbors, and I doubt that they openly condone violating American copyrights.


Canada has copyright laws too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_copyright_law#Subsistence_of_copyright

The situation with that only applies to music.  Movies, games, etc. are still illegal.  You took that out of context
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada

@34 : Piracy may be costing the industry a ton of money, but it&#039;s definitely not &quot;hundreds of millions of people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@37 : You are very wrong. It seems that you aren&#8217;t aware of the sheer scale of piracy.  Piracy is nothing short of an epidemic.  It&#8217;s not just a few songs.  FTD taps into usenet, which is quickly gaining popularity.  If you think it&#8217;s &#8220;just a few songs, you are misleading yourself.&#8221;  It&#8217;s movies, games, apps, etc.</p>
<p>Canada is one of our closest neighbors, and I doubt that they openly condone violating American copyrights.</p>
<p>Canada has copyright laws too<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_copyright_law#Subsistence_of_copyright" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_copyright_law#Subsistence_of_copyright</a></p>
<p>The situation with that only applies to music.  Movies, games, etc. are still illegal.  You took that out of context<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada</a></p>
<p>@34 : Piracy may be costing the industry a ton of money, but it&#8217;s definitely not &#8220;hundreds of millions of people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BREIN is full of BULLSHIT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BREIN is full of BULLSHIT.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 10:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #2:

&quot;And the facts are that you need to pay a premium of around 5 euros basic to get access.&quot;

You clearly don&#039;t even know what it is. It&#039;s free to sign up, as a forum. You can donate to remove the ads but it&#039;s not needed at all. Idiot ontmaskeerd? Zeker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #2:</p>
<p>&#8220;And the facts are that you need to pay a premium of around 5 euros basic to get access.&#8221;</p>
<p>You clearly don&#8217;t even know what it is. It&#8217;s free to sign up, as a forum. You can donate to remove the ads but it&#8217;s not needed at all. Idiot ontmaskeerd? Zeker.</p>
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		<title>By: A no BREINer</title>
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		<dc:creator>A no BREINer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 09:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only way to fight these self made legal ponzi scheme organisations is to piggy-sue their socks off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only way to fight these self made legal ponzi scheme organisations is to piggy-sue their socks off.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a traceroute right now and it stops always when it gets here:
208.173.176.222

So in 5 times and in all I ended up in the same IP I will try tomorrow and see if it changes but I doubt.

And I tested with the IP from the torrentfreak that I found on whois to see if I could access it without DNS and no love.

http://208.100.56.138/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a traceroute right now and it stops always when it gets here:<br />
208.173.176.222</p>
<p>So in 5 times and in all I ended up in the same IP I will try tomorrow and see if it changes but I doubt.</p>
<p>And I tested with the IP from the torrentfreak that I found on whois to see if I could access it without DNS and no love.</p>
<p><a href="http://208.100.56.138/" rel="nofollow">http://208.100.56.138/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I&#039;m saying is the ISP is because the traceroute stops when the packets are in route back and stop the moment they reach the IP of the ISP gateway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I&#8217;m saying is the ISP is because the traceroute stops when the packets are in route back and stop the moment they reach the IP of the ISP gateway.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rabbit80:

OpenDNS I tried already.Doesn&#039;t work either.

And when I try a traceroute it goes out but never returns LoL

The ping command times out too.

If you are in Japan never use Plala.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rabbit80:</p>
<p>OpenDNS I tried already.Doesn&#8217;t work either.</p>
<p>And when I try a traceroute it goes out but never returns LoL</p>
<p>The ping command times out too.</p>
<p>If you are in Japan never use Plala.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit80</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabbit80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 07:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@39 Try using OpenDNS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@39 Try using OpenDNS</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 07:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well and this is why I don&#039;t buy music anymore, I go to places where there is more freedom like Jamendo.

I used to go shopping for music and videos but those guys started to annoy me with this kind of crapoula.
Close all avenues so the people are forced to buy first and decide latter if it will keep it or not LoL

I will never ever give them another penny if can get away with it.

My ISP blocks torrentfreak and I&#039;m forced to use a proxy to read stuff here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well and this is why I don&#8217;t buy music anymore, I go to places where there is more freedom like Jamendo.</p>
<p>I used to go shopping for music and videos but those guys started to annoy me with this kind of crapoula.<br />
Close all avenues so the people are forced to buy first and decide latter if it will keep it or not LoL</p>
<p>I will never ever give them another penny if can get away with it.</p>
<p>My ISP blocks torrentfreak and I&#8217;m forced to use a proxy to read stuff here.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujothemadog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujothemadog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 07:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, in Canada the RCMP have decided to leave the file sharers alone and not turn the country into criminals. I know that because I live In Canada too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, in Canada the RCMP have decided to leave the file sharers alone and not turn the country into criminals. I know that because I live In Canada too.</p>
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		<title>By: Gargamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gargamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 05:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@34 &amp; 35

Your both wrong. I live there. The government has openly stated (TF actually covered it as well) That commercial downloading for personal use is OK, but uploading anything is against the law. BUT they dont have the time or resources to bother going after people for something so stupid and petty.

They have real crime to solve. Not breaking down doors looking for some 14 yr old girl downloading songs on her moms laptop.

ie: Common sense prevails in Canada. Thus far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@34 &amp; 35</p>
<p>Your both wrong. I live there. The government has openly stated (TF actually covered it as well) That commercial downloading for personal use is OK, but uploading anything is against the law. BUT they dont have the time or resources to bother going after people for something so stupid and petty.</p>
<p>They have real crime to solve. Not breaking down doors looking for some 14 yr old girl downloading songs on her moms laptop.</p>
<p>ie: Common sense prevails in Canada. Thus far.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit80</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabbit80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 05:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@34 yet the media industries see &quot;piracy&quot; as a major problem in these countries - and still accuse downloaders of breaking the law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@34 yet the media industries see &#8220;piracy&#8221; as a major problem in these countries &#8211; and still accuse downloaders of breaking the law!</p>
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