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	<title>Comments on: Wikileaks: ICE / IFPI Infiltrate Pirate Topsites</title>
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		<title>By: WikiLeaks destapa las tácticas de infiltración en la industria del copyright : Codigo Abierto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WikiLeaks destapa las tácticas de infiltración en la industria del copyright : Codigo Abierto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a destapar otra trama en torno al copyright y la industria del entretenimiento. En este caso la noticia adquiere una gran relevancia si tenemos en cuenta que los métodos de las sociedades que [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a destapar otra trama en torno al copyright y la industria del entretenimiento. En este caso la noticia adquiere una gran relevancia si tenemos en cuenta que los métodos de las sociedades que [...]</p>
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		<title>By: #209: Helsingin parhaat kebabit saa Eerikin Pippurista &#124; PuhujainKulma - viikottainen paneelikeskustelupodcast teknologiasta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[#209: Helsingin parhaat kebabit saa Eerikin Pippurista &#124; PuhujainKulma - viikottainen paneelikeskustelupodcast teknologiasta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] piraatit: ICE ja IFPI laittavat työntekijänsä soluttautumaan suosituimmille [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] piraatit: ICE ja IFPI laittavat työntekijänsä soluttautumaan suosituimmille [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hassock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Hassock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 words----------&gt;The Pirate Bay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 words&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-&gt;The Pirate Bay.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hassock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Hassock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. After all, if they won the War, who&#039;d put little Jimmy through college?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. After all, if they won the War, who&#8217;d put little Jimmy through college?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hassock</title>
		<link>/wikileaks-ice-ifpi-infiltrate-pirate-topsites-110905/#comment-831968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Hassock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ark Ark Ark, good try MAFIAA troll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ark Ark Ark, good try MAFIAA troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hassock</title>
		<link>/wikileaks-ice-ifpi-infiltrate-pirate-topsites-110905/#comment-831966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Hassock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And even if they closed it down, which would take months or years. There&#039;s a dozen to take it&#039;s place. Easily. Without a hitch. It&#039;s a 5 minute sign up process to  change websites, from a users perspective. Versus the year it took you to close it? Ridiculous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even if they closed it down, which would take months or years. There&#8217;s a dozen to take it&#8217;s place. Easily. Without a hitch. It&#8217;s a 5 minute sign up process to  change websites, from a users perspective. Versus the year it took you to close it? Ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hassock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Hassock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The same thing as the banking industry and why the dull pennies of the state dept will never, ever, ever catch up. Namely, that all the really intelligent people are not working for the government. We have everything going for us. They are a huge, slow beast that&#039;s too fvcking stupid to realize they&#039;re swinging in the dark. Feel sorry for the poor teenager or single mom that gets popped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same thing as the banking industry and why the dull pennies of the state dept will never, ever, ever catch up. Namely, that all the really intelligent people are not working for the government. We have everything going for us. They are a huge, slow beast that&#8217;s too fvcking stupid to realize they&#8217;re swinging in the dark. Feel sorry for the poor teenager or single mom that gets popped.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hassock</title>
		<link>/wikileaks-ice-ifpi-infiltrate-pirate-topsites-110905/#comment-831963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Hassock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I&#039;m sure the rest of the world knows who Ron &quot;Repeal Minimum Wage&quot; Paul is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m sure the rest of the world knows who Ron &#8220;Repeal Minimum Wage&#8221; Paul is.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hassock</title>
		<link>/wikileaks-ice-ifpi-infiltrate-pirate-topsites-110905/#comment-831962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Hassock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jaywalking monster criminals will always hate the decent and just law enforcement personnel that protect civilization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaywalking monster criminals will always hate the decent and just law enforcement personnel that protect civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We could also argue that by them releasing the media themselves that they have authorised it&#039;s distribution via these websites, thereby rendering every claim of copyright infringement null and void on said material because they (as the owner of the copyright of the media) released and authorised it&#039;s distribution by these sites (the right to make as many/few copies of the media is not infringed, thereby no copyright infringement has taken place).

This also creates confusion surrounding the copyright status of &#039;all&#039; pre-releases as well since we do not know which ones they themselves authorised for distribution.

As they also stand to gain the most (by the usual bag of tricks with damage claims, civil lawsuits and the lovely settlement fee letters that I wouldn&#039;t even use for toilet paper) from non authorised copies, we can not trust the copyright holders to be truthful about which specific pre-releases originated from themselves so it would therefore be questionable that an infringement has taken place on whichever pre-release media is at the centre of any infringement claim.

As such, the copyright holders would either have to seize making more of these honey-pots and disclose a full list of pre-release media they authorised for distribution (so as to have all people facing legal action around this media can have cases dropped with the collateral damage being the uploader accounts of these releases exposed and booted off of these websites) or judges presiding over these civil lawsuits would have to question the copyright status of &#039;all&#039; pre-releases (because there is a chance it may have been released by the copyright holder themselves, there is a chance that no copyright infringement has taken place).

TL/DR - Authorised &#039;pre-releases&#039; != copyright infringement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could also argue that by them releasing the media themselves that they have authorised it&#8217;s distribution via these websites, thereby rendering every claim of copyright infringement null and void on said material because they (as the owner of the copyright of the media) released and authorised it&#8217;s distribution by these sites (the right to make as many/few copies of the media is not infringed, thereby no copyright infringement has taken place).</p>
<p>This also creates confusion surrounding the copyright status of &#8216;all&#8217; pre-releases as well since we do not know which ones they themselves authorised for distribution.</p>
<p>As they also stand to gain the most (by the usual bag of tricks with damage claims, civil lawsuits and the lovely settlement fee letters that I wouldn&#8217;t even use for toilet paper) from non authorised copies, we can not trust the copyright holders to be truthful about which specific pre-releases originated from themselves so it would therefore be questionable that an infringement has taken place on whichever pre-release media is at the centre of any infringement claim.</p>
<p>As such, the copyright holders would either have to seize making more of these honey-pots and disclose a full list of pre-release media they authorised for distribution (so as to have all people facing legal action around this media can have cases dropped with the collateral damage being the uploader accounts of these releases exposed and booted off of these websites) or judges presiding over these civil lawsuits would have to question the copyright status of &#8216;all&#8217; pre-releases (because there is a chance it may have been released by the copyright holder themselves, there is a chance that no copyright infringement has taken place).</p>
<p>TL/DR &#8211; Authorised &#8216;pre-releases&#8217; != copyright infringement.</p>
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