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[...] In fact, Harvard is not alone with such research. The Computer Science department at Cornell University has been working on a project called Cubit, what they are describing as a peer-to-peer overlay. In other words, while BitTorrent is currently a decentralized means of sharing files, the information about torrent files is still indexed and aggregated centrally by trackers such as Pirate Bay. Cubit promises a “good quality, approximate keyword searching directly through BitTorrent networksâ€”a truly decentralized system that doesn’t rely on aggregators” allowing direct searches for files apart from any centralized tracking service–more in line with the Napster model from the late 90s. Hence the recent suggestions from around the web that sites like the Pirate Bay may become obsolete. [...]

By: Norm

Norm — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:26:28 +0000

The simple answer:

Media companies buy politician’s votes, because they have money and influence.

They get money and influence from the people who consume their product.

Take away their market and they are no more. And how do we do this? Well stop supporting big labels and movie studios first of all. And if you know anyone else who does, introduce them to piracy.

By: BitSeeder

BitSeeder — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:48:39 +0000

how did such open sites like mininova get so big, its loads of spam and fakes there, and the pirate bay is so hot with that case only a idiot would download from there and isohunt has even more spam and fakes than mininova, and two out of the three are not even trackers, i dont understand this, what happen to the secret societies in BitWorld, private sites and trackers? Demonoid.com, SeedMonster.com even old TvTorrents.com, we need to build more private sites and come together to protect them. Cause really, if Big Music and Big Movie wants the laws to change then they would change them not us and not even the government. when there is a lobbyist that can be bought then we will never have a fair chance in changing any laws.

By: p2pvine.com

p2pvine.com — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:20:57 +0000

Will BitTorrent Sites Become Obsolete?…

Researchers from several Universities are currently working on a search technology that could make BitTorrent sites obsolete. While the idea of a completely decentralized filesharing network is not new, there are some downsides that are often overlooke…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:38:53 +0000

With Tor and/or I2P there are anonymous torrent trackers. They won’t be sued by RIAA or MPAA.

http://tor.eff.org

http://www.i2p2.de/

By: OMG design client that cant see ips

OMG design client that cant see ips — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:38:27 +0000

OMG design client that cant see ips
simple as beans have some setup where you can create nicks as per each site and simple login setup allows you that nick per site, thats as much nfo as any client needs.

It has always confounded me that the makers of the torrent lcients have some strange need to see ips like they from the outset are already too nosey.

then after making such a client tell everyone you have 2 days to update software and POOF banned all clients that read ips.

By: ron burgandy

ron burgandy — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:31:29 +0000

Ernesto: I think you meant “this” not “is” in the 3rd last paragraph, first line “to most people is goes unnoticed”.

And Mininova shouldn’t be mentioned there since they don’t have a travker. Sumotorrents or Demonoid deserves mention more

By: bifter

bifter — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:27:39 +0000

Private trackers are all very well but, unless you’re into whatever’s new or popular, you can’t ever find what you’re looking for. TPB and Mininova have a stunning range of files available so, although I’m not a noob, I use them a lot (though I also use Peerguardian).

The argument that private trackers are somehow safer falls flat anyway. What about Oink for one?

By: Excel

Excel — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:59:10 +0000

We’ve already won people, it’s just a question of time.

Assuming 1 AxxO movie = 700 MB, the average MP3 = 5 MB, and a $200 hard drive increases in capacity every 1.5 years (not unreasonable), then:

5 years (2012) – We’ll have 7 Terabyte hard drives costing $200, capable of storing 9,643 Movies or 1.3 Million songs!!

10 years (2017) – We’ll have 51 Terabyte hard drives costing $200, capable of storing 73,225 movies and 10.3 MILLION songs

15 years (2022) – We’ll have a 389 Terabyte hard drive costing $200, that can store 556,000 Movies!!! and 77.8 Million songs (Is there even that many songs in the history of the world?!?!?)

20 years (2027) – We’ll have a 2956 TERABYTE hard drive, costing $200, that can store 4.2 MILLION MOVIES and 590 MILLION MP3s!

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GAME FUCKING OVER!
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By 2030, we’ll have every movie and song in the world stored on our freakin’ wrist watches!

By: Derrek

Derrek — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:27:58 +0000

Our biggest weakness is lack of organization. If we took all our voices into the political forum, we’d win, because we’d outnumber all the nay-sayers. Each country needs to start its own “Pirate Party”, though I’d recommend a less negative term. Far, FAR more people would vote for a “Freedom Now” than “pirate party”, and such a party could take on free speech issues, legalize pot, get all the rights back that the Bush/USA has takena way, or whatever floats people’s boats, but in the state of the Western world today, such organizations with a (BIG) foot in the political arena are seriously needed.

By: joe

joe — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:22:16 +0000

Piracy isn’t going away anytime soon. At worst, if the MAFIAAS win, it will all go underground from whence it came from. It will suck for 98% of the population though, because they won’t have easy access to it. But I have some faith that new technologies will come out to improve on today’s Bittorrent. The fact that University students are actually working on this problem gives me hope. I agree that ultimately, changing the laws is the best solution, but until then we may need to stay one step ahead of the technological arms race. If we can keep this up for another generation, then the next generation of kids will be so used to downloading stuff that if any organization ever tries to take it away there will be a physical revolution of some kind… I actually think we’re close to achieving this degree of mentality in the current young generation. Watching “Steal This Movie 2″ was inspiring.

By: nadonly

nadonly — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:37:14 +0000

Decentralization is one thing the scene has perfected, as it is a completely decentralized network. You could take down 20 big ftps, and it would barely make a dent because there’s probably thousands more hiding in the darkness. Not to mention within a matter of minutes something starting on a few ftps ends up in thousands ftps, all operating independently of each other.

By: Wwwildthing

Wwwildthing — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:41:19 +0000

@52

For this to happen, it would require EVERY bittorent site to be running the SAME user interface, to share the SAME database, and to be operating as a PUBLIC tracker.

I somehow think this unlikely… even tho the software already exists.

The simple (as in “we already had it”) solution is this… create trackerless dht-enabled torrents, and have everyone switch to Azureus.
The distributed database therein will do the rest.

By: Zoness

Zoness — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:27:41 +0000

Mininova technically has some of its own trackers. There need to be better incentives for people to start trackers. It takes a lot of effort and even more money and server power but we definately need more in the public sphere of torrenting where the mass of people still are.

By: h3xstream

h3xstream — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:01:48 +0000

“With DHT you can still connect to other people who are downloading the same file, even when the tracker for that torent is not working properly.”

Actually, it’s possible to continue transfers while tracker are down since you get the complete ip list on the first request (announce).

DHT do a difference on many downtimes where some users have a more up to date client list.

Tracker are not interfering with the transfers (that’s why they can easily be spoof).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:44:31 +0000

The solution is usenet + nzb’s

By: lol

lol — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:04:30 +0000

Host your torrents on Google. I’d like to see the RIAA and MPAA sue Google. Intimidation will work for small sites, but Google has the money to fight them.

> Public sites are garbage anyways

Private trackers have ruined public sites because of ratio enforcement. Users upload to private trackers because they have to do, and public sites are left to deal with hit & runners.

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:42:02 +0000

Public sites are garbage anyways, anyone still using them is only doing so because they don’t know any better.

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