Comments on: Will The Chinese BitTorrent Crackdown Boost Criminals? http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Fri, 25 May 2012 00:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Brudda http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-627751 Brudda Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:19:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-627751 I'm sure nobody will ever read this but... China is in Asia, where I live. A huge majority of Asians don't have access to high-speed internet because of the high cost. I think many don't even own a computer! I see a tremendous amount of locals using internet shops. These take-downs will hurt the upper echelon of Chinese society, but have no relevance to the working man. The reason pirated CDs and DVDs are so prevalent in Asia is that they can be played on a machine that costs $15.00 + TV cost. I’m sure nobody will ever read this but…
China is in Asia, where I live. A huge majority of Asians don’t have access to high-speed internet because of the high cost. I think many don’t even own a computer! I see a tremendous amount of locals using internet shops. These take-downs will hurt the upper echelon of Chinese society, but have no relevance to the working man. The reason pirated CDs and DVDs are so prevalent in Asia is that they can be played on a machine that costs $15.00 + TV cost.

]]> By: China Raises The Great Firewall Even Higher, Claims It’s To Stop Piracy | CHARGED's Digital Lifestyle at Work or Play http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-627536 China Raises The Great Firewall Even Higher, Claims It’s To Stop Piracy | CHARGED's Digital Lifestyle at Work or Play Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:05:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-627536 [...] to stop “piracy.” And, indeed, some of the sites that were shut down appear to be sites related to file sharing. But this is great for the Chinese government — because US lobbyists and diplomats have been [...] [...] to stop “piracy.” And, indeed, some of the sites that were shut down appear to be sites related to file sharing. But this is great for the Chinese government — because US lobbyists and diplomats have been [...]

]]> By: China Raises The Great Firewall Even Higher, Claims It’s To Stop Piracy | Geek News and Musings http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-627506 China Raises The Great Firewall Even Higher, Claims It’s To Stop Piracy | Geek News and Musings Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:36:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-627506 [...] to stop “piracy.” And, indeed, some of the sites that were shut down appear to be sites related to file sharing. But this is great for the Chinese government — because US lobbyists and diplomats have been [...] [...] to stop “piracy.” And, indeed, some of the sites that were shut down appear to be sites related to file sharing. But this is great for the Chinese government — because US lobbyists and diplomats have been [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626510 Anonymous Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:09:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626510 @28 - Honestly. Almost every pirate out there does not download and then buy. In fact it's very rare, I'd say even less than 1% of all downloaders. There is a reason it's called Piracy, anyone who's watch Pirates of the Caribbean "take what you can, give nothing back". That is EXACTLY what happens, sure you "share your download" but you don't give anything back to the author in terms of cold hard cash (which is what anyone would want for their hard work). You wouldn't work your ass off to get nothing in return all your life. Why should you do that upon the content authors. It's unjust. But I'm hypocritical here, I'm just as guilty as any other downloader. Fair enough if you don't want to give money to labels, but don't ram a stake in the heart of the beast, that heart is the artists keeping the labels alive. @28 – Honestly. Almost every pirate out there does not download and then buy. In fact it’s very rare, I’d say even less than 1% of all downloaders.

There is a reason it’s called Piracy, anyone who’s watch Pirates of the Caribbean “take what you can, give nothing back”. That is EXACTLY what happens, sure you “share your download” but you don’t give anything back to the author in terms of cold hard cash (which is what anyone would want for their hard work).

You wouldn’t work your ass off to get nothing in return all your life. Why should you do that upon the content authors. It’s unjust. But I’m hypocritical here, I’m just as guilty as any other downloader.

Fair enough if you don’t want to give money to labels, but don’t ram a stake in the heart of the beast, that heart is the artists keeping the labels alive.

]]> By: Links 16/12/2009: LinuxCon 2010 Coming, Mandriva One XFCE 2010 | Boycott Novell http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626357 Links 16/12/2009: LinuxCon 2010 Coming, Mandriva One XFCE 2010 | Boycott Novell Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:16:48 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626357 [...] Will The Chinese BitTorrent Crackdown Boost Criminals? Recently it became clear that Chinese authorities were going ahead with their planned video site purge. Many BitTorrent sites fell including some of the country’s largest, but of course none of this changes the demand for free or near-free media. So will the crackdown force those seeking cheap movies back onto the streets? [...] [...] Will The Chinese BitTorrent Crackdown Boost Criminals? Recently it became clear that Chinese authorities were going ahead with their planned video site purge. Many BitTorrent sites fell including some of the country’s largest, but of course none of this changes the demand for free or near-free media. So will the crackdown force those seeking cheap movies back onto the streets? [...]

]]> By: this is messed up http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626220 this is messed up Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:03:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626220 DUDE This is what makes us file sharers criminals, and we don't sell are CONTENT WE SHARE !!! MAFIA and BRien NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS !! Why Sell when you can share, sell!! "i can say from a file shares point" of ViEW is Wrong!! Even thought we Share we still give credit to the author by not SELLING his work, but sharing it and show people how great it is, so they later buy if its reallly good! REMEMBER THIS DON'T GET IT WRONG!! DUDE This is what makes us file sharers criminals, and we don’t sell are CONTENT WE SHARE !!! MAFIA and BRien NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS !! Why Sell when you can share, sell!! “i can say from a file shares point” of ViEW is Wrong!! Even thought we Share we still give credit to the author by not SELLING his work, but sharing it and show people how great it is, so they later buy if its reallly good! REMEMBER THIS DON’T GET IT WRONG!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626145 Anonymous Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:54:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626145 @15 "torrenting with dht is so much simpler, hassle free and quick, i find DHT magnets faster than trackers anyway." wow, lrn2torrent. you must be doing something very, very wrong. Even for a public tracker user this is a joke. @15 “torrenting with dht is so much simpler, hassle free and quick, i find DHT magnets faster than trackers anyway.”

wow, lrn2torrent. you must be doing something very, very wrong. Even for a public tracker user this is a joke.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626144 Anonymous Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:51:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626144 I must say it's extremely amusing to read the commenters saying there something wrong with commercial piracy and completely ignoring the fact that most (all?) public bittorrent sites make a profit off advertising. You do realise that TPB was going to be sold for 8,000,000 euros which would indicate that this much is being made, profit every year at least? Its silly to tarnish commercial pirates with this aspersion and completely and hypocritically ignore your own source for getting torrents for being a profit-making enterprise which they certainly are. I must say it’s extremely amusing to read the commenters saying there something wrong with commercial piracy and completely ignoring the fact that most (all?) public bittorrent sites make a profit off advertising.

You do realise that TPB was going to be sold for 8,000,000 euros which would indicate that this much is being made, profit every year at least?

Its silly to tarnish commercial pirates with this aspersion and completely and hypocritically ignore your own source for getting torrents for being a profit-making enterprise which they certainly are.

]]> By: ET http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626135 ET Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:58:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626135 i think its a token gesture by the chinese. www.epictorrents.com i think its a token gesture by the chinese.

http://www.epictorrents.com

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626114 Anonymous Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:28:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626114 @23 - Really depends on where you are in China. I'm in Beijing and my download speed is quite decent, usually doesn't take more than 15~20 mins to download a new episode of TV show. I do have to agree with the cheap dvd's though, so many of these "Generic Western Name" DVD shops, and @ $8 each it's just bang for bucks. @23 – Really depends on where you are in China. I’m in Beijing and my download speed is quite decent, usually doesn’t take more than 15~20 mins to download a new episode of TV show. I do have to agree with the cheap dvd’s though, so many of these “Generic Western Name” DVD shops, and @ $8 each it’s just bang for bucks.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626096 Anonymous Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:40:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626096 I'm in China right now, and that guy's right. Most internet 'round these parts isn't quite up to snuff with the standard broadband speeds in other countries. It's slow enough, and the pirated DVDs/software/etc are cheap enough here that it's not worth it to download. I’m in China right now, and that guy’s right. Most internet ’round these parts isn’t quite up to snuff with the standard broadband speeds in other countries. It’s slow enough, and the pirated DVDs/software/etc are cheap enough here that it’s not worth it to download.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626078 Anonymous Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:37:00 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626078 So far VeryCD is still up, but that's ed2k. BTPig is also up for the moment, but even on their forum they hinted they might shut down soon. Another site lesser site is bt.92wy.com, they also have some Chinese subbed stuff. So far VeryCD is still up, but that’s ed2k. BTPig is also up for the moment, but even on their forum they hinted they might shut down soon. Another site lesser site is bt.92wy.com, they also have some Chinese subbed stuff.

]]> By: Dee http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626068 Dee Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:39:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626068 Does anybody know any alternatives to btchina to get videos w/ chinese subtitles? Does anybody know any alternatives to btchina to get videos w/ chinese subtitles?

]]> By: Arpit http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626053 Arpit Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:18:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626053 Stoping piracy is just as stoping you from inhaling oxygen torrent sites are in every corner of the world(though the earth is round) Internet is future so bittorrent is future. Ftw !!!!!! Stoping piracy is just as stoping you from inhaling oxygen torrent sites are in every corner of the world(though the earth is round)
Internet is future so bittorrent is future.
Ftw !!!!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626039 Anonymous Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:30:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626039 Some of the Chinese I frequent shut down their BT page and trackers, but some are already looking at overseas trackers. They will never stop piracy, not when the real goods are so rediculously overpriced (when you take into consideration of the average income of Chinese middle class). I'll leave you with this picture. http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8459/e7bbbfe59d9d.jpg It translates to "You couldn't stop us before, and you still can't stop us now." Some of the Chinese I frequent shut down their BT page and trackers, but some are already looking at overseas trackers. They will never stop piracy, not when the real goods are so rediculously overpriced (when you take into consideration of the average income of Chinese middle class).

I’ll leave you with this picture.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8459/e7bbbfe59d9d.jpg

It translates to “You couldn’t stop us before, and you still can’t stop us now.”

]]> By: Truther http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-626021 Truther Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:05:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-626021 People SHOULD oppose sellers of pirated good. They are in it for their own profit, which is wrong. Going after people who do not affect the market, just lets people who do affect the market negatively, profit. Go after the scammers, not the share-ers. People SHOULD oppose sellers of pirated good. They are in it for their own profit, which is wrong.

Going after people who do not affect the market, just lets people who do affect the market negatively, profit.

Go after the scammers, not the share-ers.

]]> By: Kapcha http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625967 Kapcha Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:42:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625967 hmmmm, let us compare - european authorities are trying to shut down TPB already 4 years, and chinese done this in 2 days. It is very interesting, isn`t it? Just comare ;) hmmmm, let us compare – european authorities are trying to shut down TPB already 4 years, and chinese done this in 2 days.

It is very interesting, isn`t it? Just comare ;)

]]> By: lol http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625966 lol Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:42:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625966 We have noticed a lot more .cn connections hitting our xdcc servers over the past few days, and as they cant really ban chat clients they are going to find it hard to stop that. We have noticed a lot more .cn connections hitting our xdcc servers over the past few days, and as they cant really ban chat clients they are going to find it hard to stop that.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625965 Anonymous Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:41:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625965 torrenting with dht is so much simpler, hassle free and quick, i find DHT magnets faster than trackers anyway. and now that tpb is working fine again im happy to be back, although to be honest btjunkie was pretty good, torrenting with dht is so much simpler, hassle free and quick, i find DHT magnets faster than trackers anyway.
and now that tpb is working fine again im happy to be back, although to be honest btjunkie was pretty good,

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625962 Anonymous Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:33:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625962 And BT is now decentralized so it now can work without central server just like the Edonkey network. If BT was going down Edonkey will certainly take over. Moreover EDonkey can not be shut down because each client is also a server. So there is nothing to shutdown. Now with magnet link it became the same thing for BT thanks to the spectrial in Sweden. Moreover people can still access TBP or other BT databases across the word by using Syphon or Tor crashing through the big and oh "how mighty" great fire wall of China. So the Chinese government could shutdown every single BT site in China the effect on the network will be zip, zero, nada, nothing. And BT is now decentralized so it now can work without central server just like the Edonkey network.

If BT was going down Edonkey will certainly take over.

Moreover EDonkey can not be shut down because each client is also a server. So there is nothing to shutdown. Now with magnet link it became the same thing for BT thanks to the spectrial in Sweden.

Moreover people can still access TBP or other BT databases across the word by using Syphon or Tor crashing through the big and oh “how mighty” great fire wall of China.

So the Chinese government could shutdown every single BT site in China the effect on the network will be zip, zero, nada, nothing.

]]> By: David http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625958 David Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:08:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625958 Most criminals are not intelligent. thus... piracy. Most criminals are not intelligent. thus… piracy.

]]> By: whoo FLung Dung http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625953 whoo FLung Dung Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:37:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625953 haaaaa Allow piracy to prevent criminal piracy...spot on message that haaaaa
Allow piracy to prevent criminal piracy…spot on message that

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625952 Anonymous Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:35:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625952 All my favorite Chinese software download sites are still up. Seems the crackdown was just on video sites - not warez sites. All my favorite Chinese software download sites are still up.

Seems the crackdown was just on video sites – not warez sites.

]]> By: \\.neo.styles|sSG http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625950 \\.neo.styles|sSG Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:15:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625950 I doubt it. After people have tried digital piracy, they will probably never go back to physical bootlegging, due to it's ease. They will just switch to out of country torrent sites. I doubt it. After people have tried digital piracy, they will probably never go back to physical bootlegging, due to it’s ease. They will just switch to out of country torrent sites.

]]> By: jack http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625949 jack Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:14:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625949 "Haha, the Chinese authorities will be directly responsible for commercial piracy.. what a stupid world we live in :D" Yep, that is the first thing that came to mind when I read this. Great article by the way. Nigel “Haha, the Chinese authorities will be directly responsible for commercial piracy.. what a stupid world we live in :D”

Yep, that is the first thing that came to mind when I read this. Great article by the way.

Nigel

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625945 Anonymous Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:54:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625945 yes it will yes it will

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625944 Anonymous Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:53:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625944 It's likely that street sales will increase but China, like many eastern nations, already has a huge market for physically pirated goods. It's easy to find people selling stuff literally on the streets, something that the west sees less frequently. I guess the authorities don't crack down on it that hard. It’s likely that street sales will increase but China, like many eastern nations, already has a huge market for physically pirated goods. It’s easy to find people selling stuff literally on the streets, something that the west sees less frequently. I guess the authorities don’t crack down on it that hard.

]]> By: CCC http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625939 CCC Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:21:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625939 the Chinese people now use to the free option , I doubt that they will go back to buy pirate dvd . there are still a lot of bt site out side china that they can use. the Chinese people now use to the free option , I doubt that they will go back to buy pirate dvd . there are still a lot of bt site out side china that they can use.

]]> By: Dictator http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625936 Dictator Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:54:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625936 All hail the worthless tunnelvision of politicians! Why not try to legalise p2p or invent better hassle-free alternatives? i wonder if the politicians ever came in contact with this so called 'illegally' procured material..hmm... All hail the worthless tunnelvision of politicians!

Why not try to legalise p2p or invent better hassle-free alternatives?

i wonder if the politicians ever came in contact with this so called ‘illegally’ procured material..hmm…

]]> By: Ninja http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625929 Ninja Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:12:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625929 It's obvious that it doesn't work. As it's wisely said in the article, people will migrate to the cheapest alternatives if P@P is completely shut down. In my case, I refuse to buy stuff from such people on the streets. Many of them get the media from criminal organizations and supply such people with money. But I won't buy legal stuff either since I also refuse to buy stuff without trying it to the fullest (which in games includes playing it till the end for instance). As for those people, with the per capita income of the Chinese below 1100 USD I doubt there'll be any relevant increase in digital media consumption... So in the end the media industry loses and the real criminals win with this anti-p2p crusade all around the world. It’s obvious that it doesn’t work. As it’s wisely said in the article, people will migrate to the cheapest alternatives if P@P is completely shut down.

In my case, I refuse to buy stuff from such people on the streets. Many of them get the media from criminal organizations and supply such people with money. But I won’t buy legal stuff either since I also refuse to buy stuff without trying it to the fullest (which in games includes playing it till the end for instance).

As for those people, with the per capita income of the Chinese below 1100 USD I doubt there’ll be any relevant increase in digital media consumption…

So in the end the media industry loses and the real criminals win with this anti-p2p crusade all around the world.

]]> By: Dynamic Man » Stöder antipirater barnporr och terrorism? http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625928 Dynamic Man » Stöder antipirater barnporr och terrorism? Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:09:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625928 [...] kom att tänka på detta idag när jag läste en artikel på TorrentFreak som berättar om en sådan kommersiell piratkopierare som var tvungen att upphöra [...] [...] kom att tänka på detta idag när jag läste en artikel på TorrentFreak som berättar om en sådan kommersiell piratkopierare som var tvungen att upphöra [...]

]]> By: 000 http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625927 000 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:08:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625927 Haha, the Chinese authorities will be directly responsible for commercial piracy.. what a stupid world we live in :D Haha, the Chinese authorities will be directly responsible for commercial piracy.. what a stupid world we live in :D

]]> By: Duh http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625921 Duh Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:47:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625921 The article says it in the end you cut the head off and 2 grow except for the case of this about 20 grow :) The article says it in the end you cut the head off and 2 grow except for the case of this about 20 grow :)

]]> By: kabuki0009 http://torrentfreak.com/will-the-chinese-bittorrent-crackdown-boost-criminals-091215/#comment-625915 kabuki0009 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:25:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19849#comment-625915 I'm sure they'll be back on the street in no time. I’m sure they’ll be back on the street in no time.

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