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By: Windows 7 Beta Rollout Fails Without BitTorrent | Universe's Tech Blog

Windows 7 Beta Rollout Fails Without BitTorrent | Universe's Tech Blog — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:37:19 +0000

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By: Microsoft Doesn’t Embrace New Technologies | Search Engine Marketing and SEO

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:28:50 +0000

[...] “Microsoft ran into major bandwidth problems when they released the latest Beta of Windows 7 to the public. The company decided to delay the release while they added some more servers, citing “very heavy traffic”. If they had only used BitTorrent, this heavy traffic would have actually sped up distribution, instead of slowing it down.” – TorrentFreak.com (http://torrentfreak.com/windows-beta-7-rollout-fails-without-bittorrent-090110/) [...]

By: mac sucks

mac sucks — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:49:03 +0000

dumbass

By: lol

lol — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:28:17 +0000

Read the article and then try again.

By: Windows 7 Beta Rollout Fails Without BitTorrent

Windows 7 Beta Rollout Fails Without BitTorrent — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:19:44 +0000

[...] this heavy traffic would have actually speeded up distribution, instead of slowing it down.read more | digg [...]

By: Sinbad

Sinbad — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:21:23 +0000

^ WTF? You're on a torrent site – we're from the future – we don't watch TV we download the episodes…

Microsoft have always blundered like this, look at the publicity just from this article. If people report that this new OS is _so_ popular that their servers are clogged, people will want to know what the fuss is about, am I right?

By: Lerianis

Lerianis — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:57:06 +0000

Hey, they underestimated demand for this…. it happens. Nothing they can do about that, in reality.

By: Lerianis

Lerianis — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:55:58 +0000

No 'personal product key' is necessary for Windows 7. There are a grand total of 5 keys for 32-bit and 5 for 64-bit, according to ZDNet.
This is actually what Microsoft should be doing: no 'personalized' keys for WIndows 7, just ONE small pool of keys.

By: Lerianis

Lerianis — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:53:31 +0000

Actually, I agree with Mark. THe fact is that Microsoft was not threatening these people with guns, they could have easily told Microsoft to stick it and if they didn't like it, they wouldn't put Microsoft OS's on ANY computers they sold thereby destroying Microsoft's OS share.

By: mister_playboy

mister_playboy — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:44:29 +0000

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Windows 7????? ?????BitTorrent | ??IT?? — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:25:08 +0000

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By: Windows 7 Beta Rollout Fails Without BitTorrent « Internet Making Money

Windows 7 Beta Rollout Fails Without BitTorrent « Internet Making Money — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:19:33 +0000

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By: unknown69

unknown69 — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:58:39 +0000

More here also http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/11/free-unl...

By: Aemony

Aemony — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:10:11 +0000

I talked about getting a key from Microsoft themselves, through the TechNet website. I wouldn't say that those are public nor shared, since you're needed to login to a website.

By: talking Sense

talking Sense — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:49:06 +0000

Could say the same about the fanboi browser – FireFox. Every feature is pretty much lifted from Opera. The only thing uniquely Mozilla are the hundreds of bugs (it's had more bugs than IE and Opera combined over the same timeframe) and the (very quickly swept under the carpet) official distribution of trojaned software (happened with mozilla in May 08).

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By: SkateNY

SkateNY — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:14:39 +0000

It's time to move on; time to grow up. Time to put away the whining and temper tantrums of a child and live in the adult world of personal responsibility and accountability. When something sucks, it sucks, no matter how much you want it not to suck. Vista is great? The Zune is great? Windows 7 is great. Sure. You can piss in a tall glass with shaved ice and a bendy-straw, and you can call it lemonade, but I'm not drinking it.

By: SkateNY

SkateNY — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:14:28 +0000

Bottomer line: Just because there may be innocent people in jail, that doesn't make it right when Microsoft or anyone else breaks laws that are in place to protect free trade, all your dubious rationalizations and ridiculous reasoning notwithstanding.

I'm very much aware that there are thousands of people who lost much or all of their life savings investing in Microsoft. It comes across loudly and clearly, if only in the tremendous level of denial regarding Microsoft's considerable failures. It's not my problem that you people lost your shirts, hoping against hope that MSFT would return to the salad days of 20% returns on your investment. It also comes across in the anger and venom that MSFT investors demonstrate in forums such as this one: everyone else is wrong when they criticize obvious flaws in Microsoft products and in their business model and management decisions. We're all just Microsoft "haters" and "bashers." Right. So that makes a shitty product like Vista a great product because people with the ability to think critically don't like crap.

By: SkateNY

SkateNY — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:02:52 +0000

"The very fact that lately Microsoft has been losing market share to Apple because of the problems with Vista is evidence that Microsoft isn't–and can't, legally–use force to stop others from selling products."

Your statement doesn't make any sense. If you're saying that Apple's gaining market share at Microsoft's expense means that Microsoft cannot LEGALLY inhibit competetion, well, yeah, that's what the antitrust case was about. In effect, the antitrust case stemmed Microsoft's ability to stifle competition. The fact that this changed as a result of the ruling does not mean that Microsoft never engaged in the illegal practices for which they were prosecuted; the very illegal practices which gave them a huge and unfair advantage over everyone else who provided similar products and services.

Your bias is obvious; your logic is screwed up.

By: Watch Bride Wars

Watch Bride Wars — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:52:37 +0000

Not having much luck locating a proper product key. Any tips?

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Choosing The Right Tools For The Job : Ewan Spence’s All New Musings. — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:51:25 +0000

[...] Seattle based company didn’t use the mechanism. Didn’t stop the rest of the internet routing round the problem and seeding it themselves. Be nice if they learned from past [...]

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:31:37 +0000

I'm well aware of the notion of "antitrust," which is based on specious premises. I also don't like government taking my money to make up for people's horrible choices in buying homes they couldn't afford, something that many in government think is just fine and dandy. Perhaps you agree?

Bottom line: just because government defines something as the truth, doesn't make it so. There are plenty of people locked up in jail right now for committing "crimes" that many people don't think are crimes at all.

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:24:35 +0000

Yes: to sell Windows at all. They could have always chosen another operating system to sell or, like Apple, made their own. Of course, people wanted Windows, because at some point (well before Microsoft could get people to sign such agreements) Microsoft had done a really good job of getting people to write software for its operating systems and, in a variety of ways, outmaneuvered the competition.

OEM's weren't _forced_ to do anything, although certainly they were _required_ by the market to sell Windows. In short, they all sold millions of machines giving the market what it wanted. You can't blame Microsoft for doing a good job of convincing people they wanted Windows.

That's the essential difference between economic power and political power. One is gained by selling a produce or service that people want (Windows, Wii, Google, etc.), the other by using a gun either by yourself or, in the case of "antitrust," getting government to do it for you. The very fact that lately Microsoft has been losing market share to Apple because of the problems with Vista is evidence that Microsoft isn't–and can't, legally–use force to stop others from selling products.

By: Doug

Doug — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:15:34 +0000

What they did was, in order to sell windows at all, you had to pay for a license for every computer you sold. So you basically had to sell windows only or go out of business. Nice, eh?

By: SkateNY

SkateNY — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:21:47 +0000

Microsoft would not be so good at doing this were it not for a customer base so fond of wearing blinders. And, oh, their customers and apologists are very adept at tolerating just about anything but the truth.

By: SkateNY

SkateNY — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:19:11 +0000

Youre memory is rather, well, selective. What I recall is the United States Department of Justice successfully prosecuting Microsoft for violating the Sherman Antitrust Act in violation of restrating of trade. In effect, they were adjudicated as guilty of aggressively blocking existing and potential competitors from operating within competing markets. That's a crime, and they were found guilty. Live with it.

By: Tester

Tester — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:43:06 +0000

“…he faster a file can potentially be distributed with BitTorrent, saving Microsoft money too.”

Now cmon what would Microsoft do with that saved money anyway !!

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life is so sad. at catharsis — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:18:47 +0000

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ITFuture V.2 » Windows 7 Beta ???????????????? — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:36:05 +0000

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Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:51:32 +0000

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:11:17 +0000

Why not start an MSDN private bittorrent tracker, Microsoft?

By: nerdd.net | news and opinion

nerdd.net | news and opinion — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:01:46 +0000

Windows 7 Beta Rollout Fails Without BitTorrent | nerdd.net…

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By: Charax

Charax — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:56:09 +0000

There's actually no problem getting the ISO for Windows 7 from Microsoft – the problem is that the servers that deal with handing out valid product keys for it went gone down too, BT wouldn't have helped with that

I got my ISO direct from MS using a direct link, the speed averaged 250Kbps, a speed I would never have reached using the torrents. I'm all for promoting BT (and having MS servers seeding a torrent would have been a major advantage) but the problem here wasn't the download, it was the validation servers (which were only supposed to serve the firs two and a half million people anyway)

By: AnarchyNow

AnarchyNow — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:35:18 +0000

who gives a shit about an terrorist company that never did anything good at all and now their shitty servers can't get a load, bad publicity, any website running on windoze is slow and unfunctional, they're so desperate to keep people into slaves using their shitty excuse of an OS that they rather keep on the piracy that made them unduly #1

By: Binky

Binky — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:46:03 +0000

It would make perfect sense for Microsoft to have generated this problem themselves as a publicity stunt, after all it's a beta version. Create a problem claiming unprecedented demand or some such reason and everywhere gives their new OS publicity which reads that the world+dog wants to download it but they can't supply to demand. Everyone starts talking about windows 7, thinks wow this must be great if so many people want to download it and forget completely about how poor vista was.

By: unrealmp3

unrealmp3 — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:22:28 +0000

As I said, public and shared CD-key won't be eligible to upgrade if you submit bug reports like on the WIndows Vista Beta.

By: dfbdfb

dfbdfb — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:59:40 +0000

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By: mrtroll

mrtroll — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:50:30 +0000

Or they should add more servers -.-? With torrents it’ll be epic speed with 10k leechers and 3 seeds 2 of them at 150kb/s

By: pink panther

pink panther — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:41:42 +0000

I’m surprised they didn’t distribute Windows 7 on floppy dfisks.

Of course, the last time when Fedora 10 came out, I downloaded the BT and the direct link simultaneously, and the direct link finished quickly and the BT trickled along. It wasn’t that fast.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:24:25 +0000

Yes, I remember all of those Microsoft thugs running around and pointing guns at OEM's, thus "forcing" them to preload Windows 95. It was quite the travesty, and I also remember the police standing by while the same Microsoft thugs shot those OEM's in the head who refused the preload Windows 95. Such force should be prohibited.

Oh, yeah, right, I forgot: it already is.

Must have been something else that gave Microsoft the ability to convince OEM's it was in there best interests to sign the voluntary agreements. Maybe it was the fact that the market demanded Windows 95 that did it.

By: Mr. Dr. PhD

Mr. Dr. PhD — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:30:44 +0000

wow microsoft has billions of dollars and they cant even have enough servers for people to download from, its really pathetic when you think about it…

By: lolrofl

lolrofl — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:12:25 +0000

You don't need any patches. You open a cmd promt and type "slmgr -rearm" and the 30 day period will be extended for a further 30 days. You can do this up to 5 times, by which time there will be a beta 2 or RTM version.

By: lolrofl

lolrofl — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:09:38 +0000

You're a dumbass. Its a public beta so there are no unique keys. There are 5 keys for each version (x86 and x64). Everyone will get 1 of those 5 keys depending on which url they use to obtain a key.

By: Aemony

Aemony — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:57:45 +0000

But you can still get one easily of the internet, without downloading the ISO from Microsoft's servers.

By: Aemony

Aemony — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:54:37 +0000

I did, and I also obtained my own private key a couple of minutes ago by just using Google. But it was of course really hard, as in I got to spend approximately ten seconds of my lifetime to find it.

By: Aemony

Aemony — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:49:32 +0000

It's always fun to see people blame someone for stealing something from another. If it's successful, why not do the same, or even better? Microsoft isn't the first who have done this, Linux-distros does it as well, so why even bother complaining?

Anyway, also remember that some ISPs, like ComCast, throttles BitTorrent downloads.

By: Aemony

Aemony — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:44:18 +0000

You don't really need a product key to try out Seven. I didn't have one and the only thing I lost was the advanced report stuff thingy. Anyway, check the tutorial over at http://www.ditii.com/2009/01/10/download-windows-...to obtain your own personal key.

By: 2cool

2cool — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:28:43 +0000

for those wanna grab it straight away here is a link to torrent and even rapidshare http://www.filenest.com/applications/microsoft-wi...

By: amit

amit — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:44:15 +0000

First.
Btw what happened about their own file sharing protocol which they said would rrival bittorrent.

By: Microsoft

Microsoft — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:43:33 +0000

We gotta learn how to use BitTorrent already.