Even idiots can see that the 2. method brings the better outcome.

The first part is very likely true, and probably also the part about business models. Copyright was, however, intended to allow holders to make money.

The idea was to give innovators and creators an incentive to do what they do by protecting and giving them the right to ‘exploit’ (i.e. make money from) their work, so that they could get some return on their investment of the time and effort any innovation or creation requires.

Without that guarantee, provided by copyright, many things would likely simply not have happened, because people would have been less likely to make the necessary investments (not necessarily monetary investment, but time and effort).

“play borderlands, it plays the same with 1 or 4 players, just tends to be more fun when you get FRIENDS to play with you(as in a private multi player game you invite friends to)”

You didn’t read everything I wrote. I know games like Borderlands get better with more people. I’ve played it, and it’s pretty good, although I do wish the online mode and split screen mode could have been used at the same time. The thing is, Borderlands is an FPS, which as I said above is a genre that benefits from multiplayer. It’s games like RPGs and story games that suffer. Shadow of the Collossus could never have been multiplayer, not without losing the element of loneliness that helped make the game great. A Final Fantasy game or astory-based RPG game couldn’t be multiplayer because no one wants to control only half the party. Next time you want to criticize me, don’t use something I addressed in the same post you’re replying to.

You said above that Mass Effect could have just let everyone go off and get all the quests seperately. That misses the point of the game. It wasn’t all about collecting quests and then going off to do the combat. It was about immersing yourself in the world and seeing the choices that the world gave to you. If we give one player the power to make choices, the other players won’t like being left out of the decision. If we give everyone the power to make choices, then people won’t be happy about not being able to see all the content on their own. The story wouldn’t be able to have as much of an impact. In short, it wouldn’t work. Not all games can be multiplayer.

“ofcourse you could just be one of those people who dosnt have any friends to play with……..wouldnt suprise me with how bad a troll you are.”

I enjoy playing games with my friends, but none of use particularly FPS games (with a very few notable exceptions). We’ll play Starcraft sometimes, but oftentimes we’ll just take turns with a nice RPG, and watch on the couch as one player controls all the action. And I have no intention of being a troll, I just disagree with you. Maybe I seem bad at being a troll because it’s not my intention. I don’t want to annoy you, I want to persuade you. That’s not what a troll does. You can say that maybe I don’t persuade you and that my arguements are flawed, but for god’s sake, don’t assume that everyone who disagrees with you on a forum is like Jack Murdoch.

And be polite. There are people on this forum who’ve convinced to change my views. They all had one common factor; politeness. If you just want to boost your own ego, continue as you are. If you’re actually in this to convince me you’re right, change your tone, or you’ll never convince anyone.

as to your comments about the talking parts on ME1, yes that could be boring BUT like with borderlands each member of the party could run and talk to a dif person to get all the quests, OR everybody could just sit thru the same talking stuff as they would have to in single player mode, it really wouldnt be any worse then playing solo and having to listen to the blah blah blah as they get their next task/clue.

steam does backup some data from steam games, but not all,(still far from perfect) to me it would be nice if it was like bfbc2, where i can login to my acct from work, and even in the SP game can take up where i left off.

NO DRM STAYS UNCRACKED, it just dosnt happen, but with regard to DLC, normal methods as used by a few of the game makers out there would be enough to make sure they made money off it, and be enough of a deterrent to make people think “shit, it would be easier to just buy the game” I know a few people who broke down and grabbed both nwn and nwn2 because they where tired of the issues getting the dlc working, and by that time the game was a decent price.

sames true of expantions, but also with nwn/nwn2 alot of people i know downloaded , tryed it out(single player) and then bought it once the price dropped a bit so they could play online, again, this is “imoral” from your view point BUT the fact is even at 20-30bucks atari and their dev houses still made money off the sale, and they also made money off the expansion sales(because you had to get legit keys for the expansions to play online)

I have delt with the cracked DLC thats out there, in some cases its easy easy easy, in other cases, its an utter clusterfuck of directions that take so many steps that have to be done in the proper order to work that its really not worth it, most are in the middle someplace.

if the ‘free’ dlc was done via a built in downloader/installer that used encrypted compressed archives (still crackable but more work) and had to be installed via the built in downloader, it would force people to make hokey patches using dif files OR to reseed a version of the full game with each new DLC that comes out, to me this would be a deterrent.

and yes, i know torrents could be used as an update system the problem with that system comes in if the game devs make minor changes to alot of files forcing the update to effectively be redownloading all the game content.

again no systems perfect, but the point of this kind of “drm” (for lack of a better term) is to slow down pirates without having any negative effect on the paying customer.

read that well trolls, copyright was not meant for you to be leeches, it was to benefit the public. the day it goes back to that is the day i will start taking it seriously again, filesharing is acceptable under the current broken law. i know you’ll throw stuff and have a tantrum at that reality, but its the way it goes, and you’ll just have to learn to live with it >:p

have a nice day