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		<title>By: Eleventh Linkfest</title>
		<link>/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/#comment-828039</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eleventh Linkfest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Rick Falkvinge: And When Even The Death Penalty Doesn&#8217;t Deter Copying &#8212; What Then? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Azalin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azalin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.theoscarproject.org/ - eventually someone will get there... so what are you talking about ????

Heard about 3D printers.....  It&#039;s gonna be so much fun using a kinect to build a 3d mesh of your car and then run it into my 3d car printer.... whatever... 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theoscarproject.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoscarproject.org/</a> &#8211; eventually someone will get there&#8230; so what are you talking about ????</p>
<p>Heard about 3D printers&#8230;..  It&#8217;s gonna be so much fun using a kinect to build a 3d mesh of your car and then run it into my 3d car printer&#8230;. whatever&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: wilde ideeën en leesvoer (62) (25% kon u ook al lezen bij Trendbeheer kort) &#124; Lost Painters</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wilde ideeën en leesvoer (62) (25% kon u ook al lezen bij Trendbeheer kort) &#124; Lost Painters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] downloaden en houd dus ook het nieuws omtrent de torrents bij. Dit keer vond ik echter een artikel over copyright door de eeuwen heen. Nooit geweten dat daar ooit de doodstraf op stond. Nothing changes&#8230; (via [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] downloaden en houd dus ook het nieuws omtrent de torrents bij. Dit keer vond ik echter een artikel over copyright door de eeuwen heen. Nooit geweten dat daar ooit de doodstraf op stond. Nothing changes&#8230; (via [...]</p>
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		<title>By: P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And When Even The Death Penalty Doesn’t Deter Copying — What Then?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And When Even The Death Penalty Doesn’t Deter Copying — What Then?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 03:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Source: http://torrentfreak.com/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Source: <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: N3M37H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N3M37H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Copyrights does not provide an incentive, it ruins society the longer we keep the system.  Sure being paid for movie/music/ect.  but then you start getting sued for copyright infringement for &quot;borrowing&quot; a small idea and expanding on it it hampers what society can do.

  Patents and copyright should be abolished so we as a race can further advance what we can do.  This isn&#039;t saying the original creator shouldn&#039;t get recognition,  it just means the person/persons improving on the idea can without limitations.  Because if you start limiting thing that people can do you are limiting the potential of the human race.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Copyrights does not provide an incentive, it ruins society the longer we keep the system.  Sure being paid for movie/music/ect.  but then you start getting sued for copyright infringement for &#8220;borrowing&#8221; a small idea and expanding on it it hampers what society can do.</p>
<p>  Patents and copyright should be abolished so we as a race can further advance what we can do.  This isn&#8217;t saying the original creator shouldn&#8217;t get recognition,  it just means the person/persons improving on the idea can without limitations.  Because if you start limiting thing that people can do you are limiting the potential of the human race.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/and-when-even-the-death-penalty-doesnt-deter-copying-what-then-110807/#comment-824162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whose property is &quot;taken&quot; when copyright is infringed?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whose property is &#8220;taken&#8221; when copyright is infringed?!</p>
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		<title>By: Friend of the People</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Friend of the People]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make the false assumption that because it isn&#039;t 100% effective that it needs to be thrown out. Filesharing will exist, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to embrace it, particularly if embracing it will decrease the quality of our culture.

I don&#039;t buy your argument, mainly because in your example, person isn&#039;t communicating his own work or thoughts; he&#039;s communicating someone else&#039;s. Also, no one is saying that person A can&#039;t give person B his copy of something; we&#039;re only saying that he can&#039;t make a new copy and give that. Sharing is fine, but filesharing isn&#039;t actually sharing. If you lost your digital copy when you sent it to someone else, that would be sharing. Distribution of existing copies, but actually creating new copies is the privilege of the artist.

Again, I must ask; what services could artists and companies possibly provide? Let&#039;s look at videogames. The only service they have is multiplayer servers, and many of the best videogames are fundamentally incompatible with multiplayer. Including it would actively decrease the quality of the product by diverting money and time from the quality. See Bioshock 2 and Dead Space 2 for easy examples. The only service I see is streaming games, and that&#039;s still just paying for games, except that you don&#039;t get a copy to keep.

I support copyright law because if offers a mechanism for quality to be made and support itself. I have seen no evidence that a piracy based system can come anywhere close to replicating this. If you want to convince me that copyright law is unnecessary, then convince me that its purpose, furthering the progress of the arts, can be done by piracy. If it can&#039;t, then I must remain on the side that offers quality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make the false assumption that because it isn&#8217;t 100% effective that it needs to be thrown out. Filesharing will exist, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that we need to embrace it, particularly if embracing it will decrease the quality of our culture.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy your argument, mainly because in your example, person isn&#8217;t communicating his own work or thoughts; he&#8217;s communicating someone else&#8217;s. Also, no one is saying that person A can&#8217;t give person B his copy of something; we&#8217;re only saying that he can&#8217;t make a new copy and give that. Sharing is fine, but filesharing isn&#8217;t actually sharing. If you lost your digital copy when you sent it to someone else, that would be sharing. Distribution of existing copies, but actually creating new copies is the privilege of the artist.</p>
<p>Again, I must ask; what services could artists and companies possibly provide? Let&#8217;s look at videogames. The only service they have is multiplayer servers, and many of the best videogames are fundamentally incompatible with multiplayer. Including it would actively decrease the quality of the product by diverting money and time from the quality. See Bioshock 2 and Dead Space 2 for easy examples. The only service I see is streaming games, and that&#8217;s still just paying for games, except that you don&#8217;t get a copy to keep.</p>
<p>I support copyright law because if offers a mechanism for quality to be made and support itself. I have seen no evidence that a piracy based system can come anywhere close to replicating this. If you want to convince me that copyright law is unnecessary, then convince me that its purpose, furthering the progress of the arts, can be done by piracy. If it can&#8217;t, then I must remain on the side that offers quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Friend of the People</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make the false assumption that because it isn&#039;t 100% effective that it needs to be thrown out. Filesharing will exist, but that doesn&#039;t mean that we need to embrace it, particularly if embracing it will decrease the quality of our culture.

I don&#039;t buy your argument, mainly because in your example, person isn&#039;t communicating his own work or thoughts; he&#039;s communicating someone else&#039;s. Also, no one is saying that person A can&#039;t give person B his copy of something; we&#039;re only saying that he can&#039;t make a new copy and give that. Sharing is fine, but filesharing isn&#039;t actually sharing. If you lost your digital copy when you sent it to someone else, that would be sharing. Distribution of existing copies, but actually creating new copies is the privilege of the artist.

Again, I must ask; what services could artists and companies possibly provide? Let&#039;s look at videogames. The only service they have is multiplayer servers, and many of the best videogames are fundamentally incompatible with multiplayer. Including it would actively decrease the quality of the product by diverting money and time from the quality. See Bioshock 2 and Dead Space 2 for easy examples. The only service I see is streaming games, and that&#039;s still just paying for games, except that you don&#039;t get a copy to keep.

I support copyright law because if offers a mechanism for quality to be made and support itself. I have seen no evidence that a piracy based system can come anywhere close to replicating this. If you want to convince me that copyright law is unnecessary, then convince me that its purpose, furthering the progress of the arts, can be done by piracy. If it can&#039;t, then I must remain on the side that offers quality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make the false assumption that because it isn&#8217;t 100% effective that it needs to be thrown out. Filesharing will exist, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that we need to embrace it, particularly if embracing it will decrease the quality of our culture.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy your argument, mainly because in your example, person isn&#8217;t communicating his own work or thoughts; he&#8217;s communicating someone else&#8217;s. Also, no one is saying that person A can&#8217;t give person B his copy of something; we&#8217;re only saying that he can&#8217;t make a new copy and give that. Sharing is fine, but filesharing isn&#8217;t actually sharing. If you lost your digital copy when you sent it to someone else, that would be sharing. Distribution of existing copies, but actually creating new copies is the privilege of the artist.</p>
<p>Again, I must ask; what services could artists and companies possibly provide? Let&#8217;s look at videogames. The only service they have is multiplayer servers, and many of the best videogames are fundamentally incompatible with multiplayer. Including it would actively decrease the quality of the product by diverting money and time from the quality. See Bioshock 2 and Dead Space 2 for easy examples. The only service I see is streaming games, and that&#8217;s still just paying for games, except that you don&#8217;t get a copy to keep.</p>
<p>I support copyright law because if offers a mechanism for quality to be made and support itself. I have seen no evidence that a piracy based system can come anywhere close to replicating this. If you want to convince me that copyright law is unnecessary, then convince me that its purpose, furthering the progress of the arts, can be done by piracy. If it can&#8217;t, then I must remain on the side that offers quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS - if you want a society with no money or possessions, you need some sort of organization so everyone can live decently.

Otherwise, you&#039;re in the land of do-as-you-please - which invariably degenerates into self-destructive riots. It happens with piracy in the Internet, and for various complex reasons (wealth distribution, economical and political instability, etc.) it&#039;s happening now  in the UK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; if you want a society with no money or possessions, you need some sort of organization so everyone can live decently.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you&#8217;re in the land of do-as-you-please &#8211; which invariably degenerates into self-destructive riots. It happens with piracy in the Internet, and for various complex reasons (wealth distribution, economical and political instability, etc.) it&#8217;s happening now  in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VERY off topic. But OK - anarchy?

Seriously? what the *FUCK* are you talking about? Do you have any basic grasp on reality?

Watch / read some news about events in the UK over the past few days.
There&#039;s your anarchy for you. 

If you live in the UK, take a stroll into one of these chaotic urban nightmares and practice what you preach. 

And we&#039;ll see how long you&#039;ll last.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VERY off topic. But OK &#8211; anarchy?</p>
<p>Seriously? what the *FUCK* are you talking about? Do you have any basic grasp on reality?</p>
<p>Watch / read some news about events in the UK over the past few days.<br />
There&#8217;s your anarchy for you. </p>
<p>If you live in the UK, take a stroll into one of these chaotic urban nightmares and practice what you preach. </p>
<p>And we&#8217;ll see how long you&#8217;ll last.</p>
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