Comments on: Anti-Piracy Group Threatens To Sue ISPs Over TV Show ‘Piracy’

By: Anon

Anon — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:16:00 +0000

Uh that just looks like someone typing who doesn’t speak English as their first language. You should possibly consider using your time and energy for something other than abusing people for not speaking English perfectly (nor having perfect written English).

By: Mudbuddy11

Mudbuddy11 — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:53:00 +0000

so use a chinese cloud service

By: GbsL

GbsL — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:53:00 +0000

I will have to take legal action against this “anti-piracy” group, since they seem to be too stupid to realize that what ISPs are doing is far safer than letting home users record TV on their DVR, because that hard drive can be taken out of the unit, then the video decoded and re-encoded, then posted online. Whereas if the ISP have control of the recording and is streamed to the user, it can’t be pirated.

See… this is what happens when people with no more than a high school diploma start running companies lead by their fanaticism and blind devotion.

CIAPC, giving birth to human stupidity and promoting piracy by giving homeowners control over the video files directly. Impressive.

By: TheTapsa

TheTapsa — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:31:00 +0000

I guess I was trying to say that they need someone with more authority to say it, since listening to other citizens is foolish and everybody questioning the government and companies are tin foil hat wearing idealists (and thus better be ignored).

By: TheTapsa

TheTapsa — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:27:00 +0000

Yes. They should not be so silent about it tho. The problem here is the same as in the US that too large amount of people are just ignorant and listening to CIAPC etc. and think piracy as bad. Or at least that’s the way it is where I live and who I know. Most of them are just saying that artists lose their jobs and all that bullshit and not even trying to listen when somebody says otherwise. But if those companies would raise the issues better heard and seen maybe the sheeple would start not to sheep anymore.

By: When

When — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:31:00 +0000

Are you even replying to the correct post? I only see generic English/Americanese colloquialisms, nothing ethno-culturally specific.

By: Heynonanon

Heynonanon — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:18:00 +0000

Haha, Anon you make such funny posts. The biggest players in ‘industry’ already sided with us (the end user). Why do you think Amazon subsidises media downloads despite the wishes of ‘creators’ (which more accurately should read ‘middlemen’ – they don’t actually create, they just sell other people’s creations)? Why do you think Apple sells DRM-free music at a flat-rate fee through iTMS despite the wishes of the ‘creators’? Because doing so sells their own products, devices and services by appealing to customer-demand for such pricing structures.

You’ve been spouting that bollocks about “This will ratchet up…pirate greed that compels it.” for ages now – and likewise you probably think rape victims deserve it ‘because of how they dress’. You’re a sick and twisted poor fool, but you still keep us laughing with your rants. Man, you’re so far out of step with reality.

By: MadAsASnake

MadAsASnake — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:03:00 +0000

The rightsholders are the problem here. They are persistently attempting to ram unworkable and draconian laws trough various legislatures using very underhanded techniques. The UK’s DEA is a case in question – agreed between politicians and rights holder representatives on a yacht in the Caribbean in the “wash up” period of parliament (which gets little scrutiny). There was no possibility of representation by any other interested parties. In today’s society, once somthing is in the public domain, it will be shared widely – the Internet is not even the biggest part of that issue (USB sticks, sharing from phones, MP3 players and so on is still greater). Nor is piracy black and white. It runs all the way from people that won’t pay to people that simply want to copy their own bought and paid for CD’s onto an MP3 player. On the one hand we have the rightsholders who’s veiw is more / tougher laws and are putting massive combined resources into lobbying for it. On the other side is society (a much larger group) with a broad range of veiws, little organisation and few resources to tackle the politics. The more sensible legal structure you talk about is coming, but it will be fought tooth and nail by the rightsholders. SOPA was just the beginning of the revolt. The idiocy of the situation is that if the rightsholders would simply make reasonable market offerings (of the sort you like), the whole piracy “problem” would vanish. Piracy, as currently defined, is purely a problem of market failure being perpetuated by the refusal of an encumbant monopoly to adapt to currennt technology. BTW, the Internet will win.

By: steve

steve — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:12:00 +0000

They don’t stand a chance, ISP’s have the money to lawyer up.

By: Coolio

Coolio — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:44:00 +0000

It’s strange because I find myself more and more on the fence with piracy, probably because it is getting more censored here lately with all the legal cases and isp snooping. I find this cloud-based storage case ridiculous, there is no reason why isp’s in Finland should be getting sued, and, as others have said, there will be huge negative consequences for the internet if copyright holders can successfully and legally de-personalize and de-privatize personal cloud storage accounts. It would be a huge step in the direction of letting them be able to fully control content and the distribution of information on the web. That day’s probably a long ways off, but these finnish isp’s do need to win a precedent-setting case, like this in order to legally ward off this sort of copyright power abuse.

Me, I go back and forth. I really love the free sharing and availability of information and resources. I really love being able to “find anything” on the internet. I feel like there is a huge difference between what is currently being defined as copyright infringement, and what it ought to be. However, I can also see a little why rightsholders may be alarmed, especially in the areas of software development and its piracy. I think, right now, we have two sides that are black and white, pirates and rightsholders are more as divided as it can get in their ways of thinking. If possible, it would be nice if instead of these mass law suits, privacy threats, and arrests, we could take a little time and redefine the term, copyright. Make it a little more 21st century-friendly, and take into account that rightsholders do not have the “right” to withhold information from greater society, as a way to satisfy their greed. There have to be limits, but it’s also understandable that they need compensation for their products. There needs to be a roundtable discussion over definitions of copyrights and the rights of internet users to help solve this issue before it gets out of hand.

That’s just what me thinks! :)