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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody start flagging ALL spam from Slater/deviloid(dot)net...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody start flagging ALL spam from Slater/deviloid(dot)net&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-investigator-bemoans-lack-of-training-meddling-by-lawyers-111217/#comment-858324</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What, no Pelouze/Anon/Jack Murdock to call this guy out as a rogue and traitor?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, no Pelouze/Anon/Jack Murdock to call this guy out as a rogue and traitor?</p>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now we are talking. The children!!!

Protect our children today so they can live in a better world tomorrow, free of the evil internetz and free speech!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we are talking. The children!!!</p>
<p>Protect our children today so they can live in a better world tomorrow, free of the evil internetz and free speech!</p>
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		<title>By: Ninja</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But, but... Think of the children!

Who said it was about the artists? Pfft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but&#8230; Think of the children!</p>
<p>Who said it was about the artists? Pfft.</p>
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		<title>By: hdmi</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  Modification of witness statements? Is that legal? If this is true, and can be proven, than this is a blatant breach of human rights. A new low for the anti-piracy lobby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  Modification of witness statements? Is that legal? If this is true, and can be proven, than this is a blatant breach of human rights. A new low for the anti-piracy lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa Blindy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alyssa Blindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wel, thanks. Interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wel, thanks. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Slater</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christmas with a good porn movie:
http://www.deviloid.net/torrents.php
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas with a good porn movie:<br />
<a href="http://www.deviloid.net/torrents.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.deviloid.net/torrents.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob8urcakes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is yet more DIRECT evidence of the CopyWrong Cartel&#039;s paid-for attack dogs lying to - or at best manipulating - Police, the legal system, the Courts and justice.

It&#039;s an outright admission of the CRIMINAL ACT of perverting the course of justice, and the relevant authorities and politicians need to act and take SERIOUS note of said perversity by these awful people.

It appears they can hire any dummy they like, set them up as a stool-pigeon when things backfire, and think they can get away with their criminal conspiracy.

Thank you TF for bringing this serious article of systematic criminal behaviour from the very type of organisations who daily claim foul, and attack innocent pensioners and householders of wrongful acts of civil law wrongdoing simply to make a profit.

Expose more please - this MUST be endemic Worldwide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is yet more DIRECT evidence of the CopyWrong Cartel&#8217;s paid-for attack dogs lying to &#8211; or at best manipulating &#8211; Police, the legal system, the Courts and justice.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an outright admission of the CRIMINAL ACT of perverting the course of justice, and the relevant authorities and politicians need to act and take SERIOUS note of said perversity by these awful people.</p>
<p>It appears they can hire any dummy they like, set them up as a stool-pigeon when things backfire, and think they can get away with their criminal conspiracy.</p>
<p>Thank you TF for bringing this serious article of systematic criminal behaviour from the very type of organisations who daily claim foul, and attack innocent pensioners and householders of wrongful acts of civil law wrongdoing simply to make a profit.</p>
<p>Expose more please &#8211; this MUST be endemic Worldwide.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob8urcakes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a VERY rough translation (done by my browser translator) Alyssa-Babe

CIAPC accused innocent Piracy: if the terms of payment &quot;to reach agreement,&quot; the right to avoid
Defending the rights of citizens&#039; electronic Effi Association&#039;s affairs in the Usenet discussion group , one person recently told me of a letter which his wife had received the Copyright Information and Control CIAPC &#039;s legal expert.

The letter indicated that the recipient of Elisa web interface was made ??in September of copyright infringement: the ip address was divided into 5 000 music pieces with Direct Connect peer to peer. The letter told that it would be &quot;negotiable&quot; if &quot;payment terms to reach consensus.&quot; Otherwise, the case could be brought to justice.

According to the author&#039;s message to the IP address of the current proprietor was accused of acts that he had not done. Offender ip address had only recently moved to the current holder, when he was given a new, faster internet connection.

CIAPC&#039;s Managing Director Antti Kotilainen, knows about this case.

According to him, this is a letter that the recipient is requested to contact the CIAPC affiliated to any copyright breach.

&quot;When we find that a violation has occurred, the court may require the operator&#039;s request, provide the data we need.&quot;

CIAPC: &quot;Errors and unpleasant to us that the accused holding a letter&quot;

According to Kotilainen CIAPC was given to Elisha specific details on dates and times of the day such violations had occurred.

The error is CIAPC&#039;s done according to Elisa, who has given the old data ip address holder.

&quot;Such errors are very unpleasant for us and the person who receives a letter without a reason,&quot; characterized by Kotilainen.

&quot;We must be able to trust that we will get the correct information. The responsibility for the accuracy of the information operator. We obviously can not have a right to access their asiakastietorekistereihinsä. &quot;

Elisa: &quot;We will process automatically&quot;

Elisa&#039;s Chief Legal Counsel Anne Vainio, commented that the company can not comment in detail on the individual case. He thinks, however, that the false information in the background can be either the original court of invalid IP address or IP address of Elisa detection of human error occurred.

&quot;CIAPC receives IP addresses from Elisa to the holders of the information under a court order, and the district court to make a decision CIAPC the reported IP address. If the error is due to Elisa, and apologize to the customer caused resentment, &quot;Vainio said.

Vainio, the IP addresses of the network is included in determining the possibility of human error.

&quot;We are changing the process automatically to reduce the possibility of errors.&quot;

The case is unique of its kind

Antti Kotilainen, admits that the same types of cases, there have been other, the former took place last summer. He must still be isolated cases.

&quot;99 per cent of cases, people acknowledge receipt of the letter distributed files illegally. If you are uncertain, the issue is investigated. As can happen, that the web interface is the name of the parent and the offense is committed by a young family. &quot;

Kotilainen, the claim for compensation cases each year is more than a hundred. If the committee does not reach a consensus, it may be the authority for examination.

Generally, it is the thousands of euros. The amount varies according to the quality of the breach, but they go up to tens of thousands less. Large amounts are exported to general police investigation.

Pre-trial protocol: CIAPC not trained enough, edited the testimony of a

According to a police report piracy investigation CIAPC has worked as auditor, the internet, copyright violations have occurred studied Nurmela James tells us that CIAPC has not given enough training in technical matters.

&quot;I have not received all the training I&#039;ve asked for,&quot; says Nurmela. He was also not been entirely sure whether surveillance applications Factorials real data. &quot;I understand that CommView program from the IP numbers are real. I can not say with certainty whether they can be modified in some way,&quot; says Nurmela According to police reports.

In addition, Nurmela tells the police that refuses to sign a witness statement, because CIAPC&#039;s Kotilainen, and Jaana Pihkala were shaped by it so much that Nurmela experienced it was no longer their own testimony.

&quot;Originally, I called. Todistajanlausuntona was supposed to be nearly 50-page report, with the whole thing was described and explained. I wrote was my opinion, but the body as well as all additions, edits and controls came from Kotilainen and Pihkala. In fact I felt that it was no longer todistajanlausuntoni me, so I refused to sign it anymore, &quot;he tells a police report.

The employee&#039;s legal threat

&quot;I was hubeista admission requirement for a certain amount of sharing, so I was supposed to share something to get inside,&quot; says Nurmela a police report.

&quot;I asked for the right holders of such action by written consent, but I did not get it. I was just told that story to courtroom will never take,&quot; he continues.

&quot;In the past, the MPA said: I got a few from the film to put the division, but it was informal. In fact I felt their own legal protection to be inadequate.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a VERY rough translation (done by my browser translator) Alyssa-Babe</p>
<p>CIAPC accused innocent Piracy: if the terms of payment &#8220;to reach agreement,&#8221; the right to avoid<br />
Defending the rights of citizens&#8217; electronic Effi Association&#8217;s affairs in the Usenet discussion group , one person recently told me of a letter which his wife had received the Copyright Information and Control CIAPC &#8216;s legal expert.</p>
<p>The letter indicated that the recipient of Elisa web interface was made ??in September of copyright infringement: the ip address was divided into 5 000 music pieces with Direct Connect peer to peer. The letter told that it would be &#8220;negotiable&#8221; if &#8220;payment terms to reach consensus.&#8221; Otherwise, the case could be brought to justice.</p>
<p>According to the author&#8217;s message to the IP address of the current proprietor was accused of acts that he had not done. Offender ip address had only recently moved to the current holder, when he was given a new, faster internet connection.</p>
<p>CIAPC&#8217;s Managing Director Antti Kotilainen, knows about this case.</p>
<p>According to him, this is a letter that the recipient is requested to contact the CIAPC affiliated to any copyright breach.</p>
<p>&#8220;When we find that a violation has occurred, the court may require the operator&#8217;s request, provide the data we need.&#8221;</p>
<p>CIAPC: &#8220;Errors and unpleasant to us that the accused holding a letter&#8221;</p>
<p>According to Kotilainen CIAPC was given to Elisha specific details on dates and times of the day such violations had occurred.</p>
<p>The error is CIAPC&#8217;s done according to Elisa, who has given the old data ip address holder.</p>
<p>&#8220;Such errors are very unpleasant for us and the person who receives a letter without a reason,&#8221; characterized by Kotilainen.</p>
<p>&#8220;We must be able to trust that we will get the correct information. The responsibility for the accuracy of the information operator. We obviously can not have a right to access their asiakastietorekistereihinsä. &#8221;</p>
<p>Elisa: &#8220;We will process automatically&#8221;</p>
<p>Elisa&#8217;s Chief Legal Counsel Anne Vainio, commented that the company can not comment in detail on the individual case. He thinks, however, that the false information in the background can be either the original court of invalid IP address or IP address of Elisa detection of human error occurred.</p>
<p>&#8220;CIAPC receives IP addresses from Elisa to the holders of the information under a court order, and the district court to make a decision CIAPC the reported IP address. If the error is due to Elisa, and apologize to the customer caused resentment, &#8220;Vainio said.</p>
<p>Vainio, the IP addresses of the network is included in determining the possibility of human error.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are changing the process automatically to reduce the possibility of errors.&#8221;</p>
<p>The case is unique of its kind</p>
<p>Antti Kotilainen, admits that the same types of cases, there have been other, the former took place last summer. He must still be isolated cases.</p>
<p>&#8220;99 per cent of cases, people acknowledge receipt of the letter distributed files illegally. If you are uncertain, the issue is investigated. As can happen, that the web interface is the name of the parent and the offense is committed by a young family. &#8221;</p>
<p>Kotilainen, the claim for compensation cases each year is more than a hundred. If the committee does not reach a consensus, it may be the authority for examination.</p>
<p>Generally, it is the thousands of euros. The amount varies according to the quality of the breach, but they go up to tens of thousands less. Large amounts are exported to general police investigation.</p>
<p>Pre-trial protocol: CIAPC not trained enough, edited the testimony of a</p>
<p>According to a police report piracy investigation CIAPC has worked as auditor, the internet, copyright violations have occurred studied Nurmela James tells us that CIAPC has not given enough training in technical matters.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have not received all the training I&#8217;ve asked for,&#8221; says Nurmela. He was also not been entirely sure whether surveillance applications Factorials real data. &#8220;I understand that CommView program from the IP numbers are real. I can not say with certainty whether they can be modified in some way,&#8221; says Nurmela According to police reports.</p>
<p>In addition, Nurmela tells the police that refuses to sign a witness statement, because CIAPC&#8217;s Kotilainen, and Jaana Pihkala were shaped by it so much that Nurmela experienced it was no longer their own testimony.</p>
<p>&#8220;Originally, I called. Todistajanlausuntona was supposed to be nearly 50-page report, with the whole thing was described and explained. I wrote was my opinion, but the body as well as all additions, edits and controls came from Kotilainen and Pihkala. In fact I felt that it was no longer todistajanlausuntoni me, so I refused to sign it anymore, &#8220;he tells a police report.</p>
<p>The employee&#8217;s legal threat</p>
<p>&#8220;I was hubeista admission requirement for a certain amount of sharing, so I was supposed to share something to get inside,&#8221; says Nurmela a police report.</p>
<p>&#8220;I asked for the right holders of such action by written consent, but I did not get it. I was just told that story to courtroom will never take,&#8221; he continues.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the past, the MPA said: I got a few from the film to put the division, but it was informal. In fact I felt their own legal protection to be inadequate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob8urcakes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob8urcakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point sjd, and I too dunno if Finland also has this doctrine applied in it&#039;s own common law principles.

It&#039;s spelt out clearly here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unclean_hands]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point sjd, and I too dunno if Finland also has this doctrine applied in it&#8217;s own common law principles.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s spelt out clearly here -<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unclean_hands" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unclean_hands</a></p>
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