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	<title>Comments on: Australia Breeds More Pirates by Locking Up Game of Thrones</title>
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		<title>By: ekwynn</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1204197</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All these analogies seem to do is to confuse the issue and also to draw up battle lines. Look: movies, books, TV shows, etc., all these media have creators, that is someone has used their skills and genius to make something cool, like GoT. That the creators should be paid for their efforts is probably not being denied here, and the only way really to do that is to charge money for others to enjoy these products of individual &quot;genius&quot;. 

I think that no matter how cheaply they were offered that there is a hard core that will STILL steal them because they get a charge out of getting something for nothing. But the majority will probably begin to pay when they think the amount is &quot;fair&quot;. The trick is, who agrees on what is fair? 

I missed the first three seasons of GoT (I had read all the books and really wanted to see the show) because I refused to pay the additional $15-$20 that my provider (Comcast) charged for the packages with HBO in them. I eventually saw the shows but only after an entire season rolled by and then became available on On Demand. So I was always a season behind. Then something happened: I called up Comcast and said to them, Hey, you guys have to help me reduce my Comcast bill. It&#039;s ridiculously high and I don&#039;t even get HBO! I know, stupid right? Well...the guy couldn&#039;t have been quicker if he&#039;d planned it. He said, hey, what if I could give you all the premium channels including HBO (and Game of Thrones) AND drop your bill $40? What would ya say to that, eh? Well, says I, I&#039;d say, Oh HELLZ YEAH! 

Within the next fifteen minutes I had all the premium channels and a lower bill. Now I&#039;m not saying that your provider will necessarily do that, but I am saying that if you are willing to pay in the first place but think it&#039;s just too high (and PIRACY is not in your blood), try dickering with your provider. Obviously there are price points that these guys need to hit but that there is more room for bargaining than we might think (which means they&#039;re over-charging and they KNOW IT, but they won&#039;t open their hand until you call them out (in a NICE WAY. Don&#039;t start out by telling them they&#039;re all a bunch of assholes. That&#039;s just common sense). 

Anyway, piracy  is a choice just as paying for something is. I personally think that the creators need to be paid for their work. BUT I also believe that the providers are overcharging, squeezing us for more money than we can afford. That fact did not push me to piracy, but that&#039;s just me. I don&#039;t need to see something the minute it comes out. I&#039;m more patient (I&#039;m also older than most folks on this comment thread). But when I feel squeezed, I react by FIRMLY asking for a price reduction (pointing out the inequities of my current price setup. 

Of course this will not happen every time, but I think that there is a better chance of it happening now than at any time in the past. The providers know they&#039;re screwing a lot of people, and when you call them out on it (in a NICE WAY, remember? More flies with honey, etc.?) they just might have a built-in mechanism that allows them to reduce your bill AND give you the premium channels (which includes HBO), but only if you ask!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these analogies seem to do is to confuse the issue and also to draw up battle lines. Look: movies, books, TV shows, etc., all these media have creators, that is someone has used their skills and genius to make something cool, like GoT. That the creators should be paid for their efforts is probably not being denied here, and the only way really to do that is to charge money for others to enjoy these products of individual &#8220;genius&#8221;. </p>
<p>I think that no matter how cheaply they were offered that there is a hard core that will STILL steal them because they get a charge out of getting something for nothing. But the majority will probably begin to pay when they think the amount is &#8220;fair&#8221;. The trick is, who agrees on what is fair? </p>
<p>I missed the first three seasons of GoT (I had read all the books and really wanted to see the show) because I refused to pay the additional $15-$20 that my provider (Comcast) charged for the packages with HBO in them. I eventually saw the shows but only after an entire season rolled by and then became available on On Demand. So I was always a season behind. Then something happened: I called up Comcast and said to them, Hey, you guys have to help me reduce my Comcast bill. It&#8217;s ridiculously high and I don&#8217;t even get HBO! I know, stupid right? Well&#8230;the guy couldn&#8217;t have been quicker if he&#8217;d planned it. He said, hey, what if I could give you all the premium channels including HBO (and Game of Thrones) AND drop your bill $40? What would ya say to that, eh? Well, says I, I&#8217;d say, Oh HELLZ YEAH! </p>
<p>Within the next fifteen minutes I had all the premium channels and a lower bill. Now I&#8217;m not saying that your provider will necessarily do that, but I am saying that if you are willing to pay in the first place but think it&#8217;s just too high (and PIRACY is not in your blood), try dickering with your provider. Obviously there are price points that these guys need to hit but that there is more room for bargaining than we might think (which means they&#8217;re over-charging and they KNOW IT, but they won&#8217;t open their hand until you call them out (in a NICE WAY. Don&#8217;t start out by telling them they&#8217;re all a bunch of assholes. That&#8217;s just common sense). </p>
<p>Anyway, piracy  is a choice just as paying for something is. I personally think that the creators need to be paid for their work. BUT I also believe that the providers are overcharging, squeezing us for more money than we can afford. That fact did not push me to piracy, but that&#8217;s just me. I don&#8217;t need to see something the minute it comes out. I&#8217;m more patient (I&#8217;m also older than most folks on this comment thread). But when I feel squeezed, I react by FIRMLY asking for a price reduction (pointing out the inequities of my current price setup. </p>
<p>Of course this will not happen every time, but I think that there is a better chance of it happening now than at any time in the past. The providers know they&#8217;re screwing a lot of people, and when you call them out on it (in a NICE WAY, remember? More flies with honey, etc.?) they just might have a built-in mechanism that allows them to reduce your bill AND give you the premium channels (which includes HBO), but only if you ask!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Boz</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1203919</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Boz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YES WE AUSSIE PIRATE TO FIGHT CONTROL AND BEING RIPPED OFF! The world things just because we got lots of mining and the worlds supply of Uranium to run the worlds nuclear reactors for decades the arrogant corporate bosses around the world seem to think every Australian is a rich millionaire lets charge them the most, Dead wrong we won&#039;t pay! were not all rich like most places with socio eco&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES WE AUSSIE PIRATE TO FIGHT CONTROL AND BEING RIPPED OFF! The world things just because we got lots of mining and the worlds supply of Uranium to run the worlds nuclear reactors for decades the arrogant corporate bosses around the world seem to think every Australian is a rich millionaire lets charge them the most, Dead wrong we won&#8217;t pay! were not all rich like most places with socio eco&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: roseta</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1201902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roseta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used Super VPN to watch yesterday&#039;s episode and it worked great. http://www.supervpn.net/news/watch-game-of-thrones-on-hbo-go-when-outside-usa-with-vpn/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Super VPN to watch yesterday&#8217;s episode and it worked great. <a href="http://www.supervpn.net/news/watch-game-of-thrones-on-hbo-go-when-outside-usa-with-vpn/" rel="nofollow">http://www.supervpn.net/news/watch-game-of-thrones-on-hbo-go-when-outside-usa-with-vpn/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Copywrong &#187; VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1192644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Copywrong &#187; VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 21:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks &#124;</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1192495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks &#124; We R Pirates</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1192493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks &#124; We R Pirates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks - TorrentScene &#124; TorrentScene</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1192490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VPN Users ‘Pirating’ Netflix Scare TV Networks - TorrentScene &#124; TorrentScene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 11:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: VPN Users &#039;Pirating&#039; Netflix Scare TV Networks &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1192489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VPN Users &#039;Pirating&#039; Netflix Scare TV Networks &#124; TorrentFreak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in it. Not only is legal content much more expensive than in the US, the region is continually under-served, meaning that locals resort to file-sharing networks for shows such as Game of Thrones and Breaking [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Nerdlinger</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1187366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nerdlinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup. It sucks the big one. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. It sucks the big one. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Arr Matey</title>
		<link>/australia-breeds-pirates-game-thrones-140203/#comment-1185953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arr Matey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are reasonable alternatives. They may not be considered &#039;legal&#039; alternatives, but they are &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; reasonable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are reasonable alternatives. They may not be considered &#8216;legal&#8217; alternatives, but they are <i>very</i> reasonable.</p>
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