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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never understood torrent clients pig-headed insistence on hammering tracker urls that don&#039;t work. If you got an error that says the file or the domain name in the url doesn&#039;t exist, or receive a web page instead of a tracker, it&#039;s not going to pop into existence by repeating the request every 60 seconds. Treating all errors as &quot;tracker busy&quot; is just stupid, the client should disable invalid urls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood torrent clients pig-headed insistence on hammering tracker urls that don&#8217;t work. If you got an error that says the file or the domain name in the url doesn&#8217;t exist, or receive a web page instead of a tracker, it&#8217;s not going to pop into existence by repeating the request every 60 seconds. Treating all errors as &#8220;tracker busy&#8221; is just stupid, the client should disable invalid urls.</p>
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		<title>By: dionrook</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BitTorrent Users DDoS Websites Without Knowing &#124; Zombie Torrents - Ultimate Torrents Downloads</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BitTorrent Users DDoS Websites Without Knowing &#124; Zombie Torrents - Ultimate Torrents Downloads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sem querer querendo, usuários de torrent fazem ataques DDoS &#124; Por um internet melhor!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sem querer querendo, usuários de torrent fazem ataques DDoS &#124; Por um internet melhor!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 06:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DarkSideOfLife</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DarkSideOfLife]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[umm.. right so its so hard to click on the tracker tab and de-select any tracker Or web site that has no peers...? come on guys/girls... use ur brain.. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm.. right so its so hard to click on the tracker tab and de-select any tracker Or web site that has no peers&#8230;? come on guys/girls&#8230; use ur brain.. </p>
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		<title>By: Sem querer querendo, usuários de torrent fazem ataques DDoS &#124; Gato Folgado &#124; Notícias e entretenimento</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sem querer querendo, usuários de torrent fazem ataques DDoS &#124; Gato Folgado &#124; Notícias e entretenimento]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Usuarios de Bit Torrent DDoS visitan sitios web dañinos sin saber &#124; IntelDig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Usuarios de Bit Torrent DDoS visitan sitios web dañinos sin saber &#124; IntelDig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JordanKratz</title>
		<link>/bittorrent-users-ddos-websites-without-knowing-120919/#comment-977961</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes I like that thought.I hate the RIAA &amp; MPAA Scums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I like that thought.I hate the RIAA &amp; MPAA Scums.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ @FrostyC:disqus  doesnt matter if they block the connections, the clients will still try to connect to those servers in there tracker list so the websites bandwidth is still being used.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> @FrostyC:disqus  doesnt matter if they block the connections, the clients will still try to connect to those servers in there tracker list so the websites bandwidth is still being used.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord of the Files</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I say &quot;torrent sites&quot; I&#039;m talking about both private indexers and public trackers, and to a lesser extent public indexers too since they do have some influence, particularly the big ones. Even commenters have a bit of influence. I just didn&#039;t see the need to split hairs on a blog named TorrentFreak. I simply assumed most of the torrenting folks here would understand what I was getting at.

That&#039;s a good point, Noway, about faking the user agent, which certainly is one possibility for getting around client bans. A bit risky though because it&#039;s not 100% foolproof, the potential being you&#039;re IP and account (should you have one) getting perma-banned. Not a big deal for some, especially those running anonymously and/or using proxies, but a big deal for a lot of others I&#039;m sure.

There shouldn&#039;t really be a need for private sites to ban older clients for the particular reason this blog post discusses. However a lot of them have shown logic isn&#039;t really their strong suit, with torrent clients being banned due to one false belief or another, or simply because other sites may be doing it. Research is hard, banning is easy lol.

My biggest concern was the public trackers though, provided they care enough about those getting DDoS&#039;ed out there, which in a few cases does include themselves I&#039;m sure. Between all of the private and public trackers, admins have it in their power to force everyone to change their torrent client if enough of them so chose. While not the end of the world, it is still an unpleasant thought for a lot of users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I say &#8220;torrent sites&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about both private indexers and public trackers, and to a lesser extent public indexers too since they do have some influence, particularly the big ones. Even commenters have a bit of influence. I just didn&#8217;t see the need to split hairs on a blog named TorrentFreak. I simply assumed most of the torrenting folks here would understand what I was getting at.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point, Noway, about faking the user agent, which certainly is one possibility for getting around client bans. A bit risky though because it&#8217;s not 100% foolproof, the potential being you&#8217;re IP and account (should you have one) getting perma-banned. Not a big deal for some, especially those running anonymously and/or using proxies, but a big deal for a lot of others I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>There shouldn&#8217;t really be a need for private sites to ban older clients for the particular reason this blog post discusses. However a lot of them have shown logic isn&#8217;t really their strong suit, with torrent clients being banned due to one false belief or another, or simply because other sites may be doing it. Research is hard, banning is easy lol.</p>
<p>My biggest concern was the public trackers though, provided they care enough about those getting DDoS&#8217;ed out there, which in a few cases does include themselves I&#8217;m sure. Between all of the private and public trackers, admins have it in their power to force everyone to change their torrent client if enough of them so chose. While not the end of the world, it is still an unpleasant thought for a lot of users.</p>
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