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	<title>Comments on: Bram Cohen To Deliver BitTorrent Live Streaming</title>
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		<title>By: design</title>
		<link>/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/#comment-600233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[design]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[inb4 a kanye meme]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inb4 a kanye meme</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/#comment-600227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen his code.  He&#039;s no genius, noone worth drooling over.  His code suxxors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen his code.  He&#8217;s no genius, noone worth drooling over.  His code suxxors.</p>
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		<title>By: TV vs. Media Management &#171; John&#8217;s Findings</title>
		<link>/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/#comment-599954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TV vs. Media Management &#171; John&#8217;s Findings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] only crucial thing we were missing was sporting events not broadcast over-the-air, but there is hope for that soon. (Plus, going to a bar is always a good option for the sports events worth [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only crucial thing we were missing was sporting events not broadcast over-the-air, but there is hope for that soon. (Plus, going to a bar is always a good option for the sports events worth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fnordmix &#171; /dev/blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fnordmix &#171; /dev/blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cohen a bittorrent atyja kit?zte maga elé a p2p streaming megoldás kifejlesztését, páran már próbálkoznak. Érdekes lenne, ha vkinek végre [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cohen a bittorrent atyja kit?zte maga elé a p2p streaming megoldás kifejlesztését, páran már próbálkoznak. Érdekes lenne, ha vkinek végre [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Briggs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Briggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This exists in China in the form of PPLive.

And yeah, it&#039;s been mentioned...FUCK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This exists in China in the form of PPLive.</p>
<p>And yeah, it&#8217;s been mentioned&#8230;FUCK.</p>
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		<title>By: sabret00the</title>
		<link>/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/#comment-599279</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be honest, it&#039;s just a pipe-dream for now and I noticed someone mentioned things like PPLive and PPSteam. The problem is that they&#039;re all independent and all come with shit that fucks with your pc. We ultimately need a new standard here, but it seems that it&#039;s still a couple years off. Which is a shame as PPLive has been around for at least five years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, it&#8217;s just a pipe-dream for now and I noticed someone mentioned things like PPLive and PPSteam. The problem is that they&#8217;re all independent and all come with shit that fucks with your pc. We ultimately need a new standard here, but it seems that it&#8217;s still a couple years off. Which is a shame as PPLive has been around for at least five years.</p>
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		<title>By: respecT</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[respecT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the great master of bt has been working, nice! ^^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the great master of bt has been working, nice! ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Remains of the Day: JavaScript NES Emulator in Chrome Edition [For What It's Worth] - btclip</title>
		<link>/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/#comment-599179</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Remains of the Day: JavaScript NES Emulator in Chrome Edition [For What It's Worth] - btclip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Bram Cohen To Deliver BitTorrent Live Streaming The father of BitTorrent wants to put his file-sharing protocol to use streaming live content. [TorrentFreak] [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bram Cohen To Deliver BitTorrent Live Streaming The father of BitTorrent wants to put his file-sharing protocol to use streaming live content. [TorrentFreak] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pumpkin's status on Friday, 18-Sep-09 09:49:05 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pumpkin's status on Friday, 18-Sep-09 09:49:05 UTC - Identi.ca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cohen To Deliver #BitTorrent Live Streaming http://torrentfreak.com/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cohen To Deliver #BitTorrent Live Streaming <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/bram-cohen-to-deliver-bittorrent-live-streaming-090916/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish him the best of luck.

The BBC here in the UK has live streams of 9 different TV channels - the only channel they don&#039;t stream right now is BBC HD.  They also have on-demand streaming of a large library of programmes.  The ISPs have got quite upset with them because iPlayer takes up a very significant proportion of Internet bandwidth in the UK, costing them money.

It seems to me that for practical P2P streaming to gain support from ISPs, live or otherwise, the protocol needs to prioritise local transmission.  Traffic that can go between peers connected to an ISP without having to go over the Internet effectively doesn&#039;t cost ISPs anything.

The second point is that this really needs to be as simple as possible for users.  Practically speaking that means the streaming client has to be a flash app.  A naive user browsing to the BBC would have no patience to download client software, as has been proven by the initial version of iPlayer which required a custom P2P client.  iPlayer only took off when it swapped to being Flash based.

Were the BBC to adopt such a thing it&#039;d make all the UK ISPs much happier bunnies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish him the best of luck.</p>
<p>The BBC here in the UK has live streams of 9 different TV channels &#8211; the only channel they don&#8217;t stream right now is BBC HD.  They also have on-demand streaming of a large library of programmes.  The ISPs have got quite upset with them because iPlayer takes up a very significant proportion of Internet bandwidth in the UK, costing them money.</p>
<p>It seems to me that for practical P2P streaming to gain support from ISPs, live or otherwise, the protocol needs to prioritise local transmission.  Traffic that can go between peers connected to an ISP without having to go over the Internet effectively doesn&#8217;t cost ISPs anything.</p>
<p>The second point is that this really needs to be as simple as possible for users.  Practically speaking that means the streaming client has to be a flash app.  A naive user browsing to the BBC would have no patience to download client software, as has been proven by the initial version of iPlayer which required a custom P2P client.  iPlayer only took off when it swapped to being Flash based.</p>
<p>Were the BBC to adopt such a thing it&#8217;d make all the UK ISPs much happier bunnies.</p>
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