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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-449140</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea is to make claims about infrigment (be them true or false) about the lobbyist and corparations. 
Let&#039;s kick e&#039;m off the net!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is to make claims about infrigment (be them true or false) about the lobbyist and corparations.<br />
Let&#8217;s kick e&#8217;m off the net!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-448800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kevin:

How Simple Minded you must be. To think that this bill is good just because &quot;it is clear about what is allowed and what is not&quot;.

I&#039;m assuming you read these posts because you download VIA some form of P2P. Would you like to be imprisoned and fined for downloading something, legal or not, just because you used bittorrent to stream work-related material to a boss?

He may not have perfect views, and i don&#039;t agree with him 100%. But as the person who actually CONDUCTED this interview, i find that Mr Angus, and the NDP party, have a better idea on how to make a 21st century copyright law then... Lets say the Liberals or Conservatives.... Oh hell, if we want this country to go to shit, lets just let the Bloc Quebecois make our fucking copyright laws.

In closing: Go fuck yourself :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin:</p>
<p>How Simple Minded you must be. To think that this bill is good just because &#8220;it is clear about what is allowed and what is not&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming you read these posts because you download VIA some form of P2P. Would you like to be imprisoned and fined for downloading something, legal or not, just because you used bittorrent to stream work-related material to a boss?</p>
<p>He may not have perfect views, and i don&#8217;t agree with him 100%. But as the person who actually CONDUCTED this interview, i find that Mr Angus, and the NDP party, have a better idea on how to make a 21st century copyright law then&#8230; Lets say the Liberals or Conservatives&#8230;. Oh hell, if we want this country to go to shit, lets just let the Bloc Quebecois make our fucking copyright laws.</p>
<p>In closing: Go fuck yourself :)</p>
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		<title>By: Intelligencia</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-447387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Intelligencia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue really isn&#039;t about piracy here - it&#039;s about a fair system having trouble coping with new business models that the &quot;fat-cat old boys&quot; cannot update.
P2P and piracy (computer-based) are victim-less crimes and fall under the definition of civil case, not criminal. For countries (such as USA) to have criminalised these victim-less acts into jail time - in some cases a longer sentence (and harsher financial penalties) than murder, rape, grand-larceny, and child molestation/pornography - really does show that the country has lost it&#039;s way.
What happens to a country with overflowing jails? When is enough, enough? Especially for the price of a &quot;99 cent song&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue really isn&#8217;t about piracy here &#8211; it&#8217;s about a fair system having trouble coping with new business models that the &#8220;fat-cat old boys&#8221; cannot update.<br />
P2P and piracy (computer-based) are victim-less crimes and fall under the definition of civil case, not criminal. For countries (such as USA) to have criminalised these victim-less acts into jail time &#8211; in some cases a longer sentence (and harsher financial penalties) than murder, rape, grand-larceny, and child molestation/pornography &#8211; really does show that the country has lost it&#8217;s way.<br />
What happens to a country with overflowing jails? When is enough, enough? Especially for the price of a &#8220;99 cent song&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzypig</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-445954</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely crap. You start taking people off the internet and they are no longer spending at Amazon, eBay, etc. You tell Amazon, eBay, et al that their profits will be down across America and Europe because the governments think people are being naughty and throwing them off the internet and they will soon start making a noise about these idiotic and unworkable laws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely crap. You start taking people off the internet and they are no longer spending at Amazon, eBay, etc. You tell Amazon, eBay, et al that their profits will be down across America and Europe because the governments think people are being naughty and throwing them off the internet and they will soon start making a noise about these idiotic and unworkable laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-445115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sauce for the goose:

I agree with Cory Doctorow&#039;s idea that
if such a law were to be passed, that
it apply equally to the anti-piracy
companies - three false accusations
of infringement, and they get their
Internet service shut down.

Not that it will ever happen, as the
megacorps have their hands in the 
governments&#039; pockets, and would never
consent to such a condition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sauce for the goose:</p>
<p>I agree with Cory Doctorow&#8217;s idea that<br />
if such a law were to be passed, that<br />
it apply equally to the anti-piracy<br />
companies &#8211; three false accusations<br />
of infringement, and they get their<br />
Internet service shut down.</p>
<p>Not that it will ever happen, as the<br />
megacorps have their hands in the<br />
governments&#8217; pockets, and would never<br />
consent to such a condition.</p>
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		<title>By: actually</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-445083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actually]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you mean there&#039;s no organisation, call it p2p, organised enough. What &quot;they&quot; fail to see is that &quot;they&quot; need to come to us now, crawling at that.

I don&#039;t think your group will be taken at all seriously on any of the &quot;chan&quot;&#039;s.

Aside from that I&#039;m reminded of something I heard years ago, before even Napster was widely known.

A DJ from the canadian music channel Much Music did a documentary on the &quot;grunge&quot; movement of the nineties. He was careful to note how it broke with the traditional, corporate designed lipstick /hairbands of the day.

He noted how it was &quot;real&quot; music, from &quot;real&quot; people, with &quot;real&quot; things to say about issues of the day, and that&#039;s why it took the scene by storm. Corporate pigs had to get with it fast or be left in the dust by it. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, as a few of the most memorable examples.

He noted how the world was starved by corporate pigs for such raw and real talent and that&#039;s why it was accepted so readily, we hungered for it, and it fed us.

Being that his documentary took place after the grunge movement was poisoned by corporate pigs and died off, said DJ hungered for yet another artful revolution, and questioned what would it take to have it happen again?

He reasoned, exactly the same as what allowed it to happen the first time. People being so sick of the crap being shoved down their throats that they started _sharing_ real music that meant something amongst themselves. Wherever you found it, wherever you heard it, give a copy to your friend and let them give a copy to their friends. In fact he actually went so far as to state &quot;make up a CD of all your favorites and just, forget it on the bus one day for someone else to find and experience&quot;.

...and then came file sharing. That was an awesome documentary from a guy in the industry, and I haven&#039;t forgotten his most powerful points.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean there&#8217;s no organisation, call it p2p, organised enough. What &#8220;they&#8221; fail to see is that &#8220;they&#8221; need to come to us now, crawling at that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think your group will be taken at all seriously on any of the &#8220;chan&#8221;&#8216;s.</p>
<p>Aside from that I&#8217;m reminded of something I heard years ago, before even Napster was widely known.</p>
<p>A DJ from the canadian music channel Much Music did a documentary on the &#8220;grunge&#8221; movement of the nineties. He was careful to note how it broke with the traditional, corporate designed lipstick /hairbands of the day.</p>
<p>He noted how it was &#8220;real&#8221; music, from &#8220;real&#8221; people, with &#8220;real&#8221; things to say about issues of the day, and that&#8217;s why it took the scene by storm. Corporate pigs had to get with it fast or be left in the dust by it. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, as a few of the most memorable examples.</p>
<p>He noted how the world was starved by corporate pigs for such raw and real talent and that&#8217;s why it was accepted so readily, we hungered for it, and it fed us.</p>
<p>Being that his documentary took place after the grunge movement was poisoned by corporate pigs and died off, said DJ hungered for yet another artful revolution, and questioned what would it take to have it happen again?</p>
<p>He reasoned, exactly the same as what allowed it to happen the first time. People being so sick of the crap being shoved down their throats that they started _sharing_ real music that meant something amongst themselves. Wherever you found it, wherever you heard it, give a copy to your friend and let them give a copy to their friends. In fact he actually went so far as to state &#8220;make up a CD of all your favorites and just, forget it on the bus one day for someone else to find and experience&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8230;and then came file sharing. That was an awesome documentary from a guy in the industry, and I haven&#8217;t forgotten his most powerful points.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-444787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;having worked first hand with those who have been forgotten by those in government , the homeless , [he] has a good appreciation for cause and effect&quot;

Ok seriously common.

What does that even mean? Are you implying that it&#039;s the government&#039;s fault these people are homeless? If so maybe you should spend sometime working first hand with the homeless yourself. I&#039;d rather have this guy working for me than a bum. Agreeing with my views (cause) gains my vote (effect). I didn&#039;t vote NDP. Appreciate that.

&quot;Luckily, there are still some politicians who know what&#039;s right and what&#039;s not. Charles Angus, a Canadian MP, is not a fan of the &#039;3 strikes and you&#039;re out&#039; proposals, which have also been discussed in Canada.&quot;

I&#039;ll direct your attention now to the fact that no such &quot;3 strikes law&quot; has been implemented in Canada, indicating that not only your savior Mr. Angus, but apparently the majority of Canadian politicians must also not be a fan of said proposals.

&quot;he has also proven himself a man of morals&quot;

Or at least a guy who knows what he believes. Good I like that. But here it comes: and his morals are?

&quot;Bill 61 is a piece of legislation that is taking us down the wrong road.&quot; Hmm, i would have to disagree with Mr. Angus there. I think it is a step in the right direction compared to what we Canadian&#039;s have seen in the US. What I like about it: First it is clear on what is and isn&#039;t acceptable. Second, it protects time shifting and some backup.

While i dislike drm as much as the next guy I think producers have every right to put it on their content. Just like you have every right to not to buy it. I have an itunes account. I refuse to even look anywhere but itunes plus. I&#039;m surviving and I&#039;m stimulating music producers to move away from drm.

I do think the bill could use some work. I also think it will get some. What i would not like to happen is for this to be under complete control of Mr. Angus and the rest of the NDP party. While he may be your knight in shinning armor I would remind you that this is no Fairy Tale. Content creation is a business just like any other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;having worked first hand with those who have been forgotten by those in government , the homeless , [he] has a good appreciation for cause and effect&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok seriously common.</p>
<p>What does that even mean? Are you implying that it&#8217;s the government&#8217;s fault these people are homeless? If so maybe you should spend sometime working first hand with the homeless yourself. I&#8217;d rather have this guy working for me than a bum. Agreeing with my views (cause) gains my vote (effect). I didn&#8217;t vote NDP. Appreciate that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Luckily, there are still some politicians who know what&#8217;s right and what&#8217;s not. Charles Angus, a Canadian MP, is not a fan of the &#8217;3 strikes and you&#8217;re out&#8217; proposals, which have also been discussed in Canada.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll direct your attention now to the fact that no such &#8220;3 strikes law&#8221; has been implemented in Canada, indicating that not only your savior Mr. Angus, but apparently the majority of Canadian politicians must also not be a fan of said proposals.</p>
<p>&#8220;he has also proven himself a man of morals&#8221;</p>
<p>Or at least a guy who knows what he believes. Good I like that. But here it comes: and his morals are?</p>
<p>&#8220;Bill 61 is a piece of legislation that is taking us down the wrong road.&#8221; Hmm, i would have to disagree with Mr. Angus there. I think it is a step in the right direction compared to what we Canadian&#8217;s have seen in the US. What I like about it: First it is clear on what is and isn&#8217;t acceptable. Second, it protects time shifting and some backup.</p>
<p>While i dislike drm as much as the next guy I think producers have every right to put it on their content. Just like you have every right to not to buy it. I have an itunes account. I refuse to even look anywhere but itunes plus. I&#8217;m surviving and I&#8217;m stimulating music producers to move away from drm.</p>
<p>I do think the bill could use some work. I also think it will get some. What i would not like to happen is for this to be under complete control of Mr. Angus and the rest of the NDP party. While he may be your knight in shinning armor I would remind you that this is no Fairy Tale. Content creation is a business just like any other.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt`</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-444730</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Step 1: Spoof IP addresses of RIAA servers, and the servers of your ISP
Step 2: Torrent like mad
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step 1: Spoof IP addresses of RIAA servers, and the servers of your ISP<br />
Step 2: Torrent like mad<br />
Step 3: ???<br />
Step 4: Profit</p>
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		<title>By: VT</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-444690</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;how to immigrate to canada? :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>how to immigrate to canada? :D</strong></p>
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		<title>By: JPL</title>
		<link>/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/#comment-444650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JPL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lobbyist groups MUST be banned from influencing government. It&#039;s just bribery in the highest order. Any politician closely associated with any kind of lobbyists ought to immediately lose his elected office. I think lobbyists are criminals and that association with them should be punished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lobbyist groups MUST be banned from influencing government. It&#8217;s just bribery in the highest order. Any politician closely associated with any kind of lobbyists ought to immediately lose his elected office. I think lobbyists are criminals and that association with them should be punished.</p>
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